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QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« on: December 21, 2014, 07:49:12 PM »
By KAREEM COPELAND
Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston was cleared of the accusations he faced at a student code of conduct hearing involving an alleged sexual assault two years ago, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press on Sunday.

Former Florida Supreme Court judge Major Harding wrote in a letter to Winston that the evidence was "insufficient to satisfy the burden of proof." Prosecutor Willie Meggs made a similar decision a year ago when he decided not to criminally charge Winston, citing a lack of evidence.

This month, a two-day hearing was held to determine whether Winston violated four sections of the code of conduct - two for sexual misconduct and two for endangerment.

The ramifications for Winston ranged from a reprimand to expulsion from school.

The woman can request an appeal within five days.

"We will consider an appeal but right now we feel a little duped," said Baine Kerr, one of the woman's lawyers. "At some point we have to recognize that Florida State is never going to hold James Winston responsible."

AP is not identifying the woman because it does not identify people who say they are victims of sexual abuse.

Kerr said in the emailed statement that between his client, Winston, and two teammates that were at the off-campus apartment - Chris Casher and Ronald Darby - only the woman would answer questions about what happened.

"Somehow Jameis Winston still wins," Kerr said. "The order doesn't even follow the Student Conduct Code and it ignores the bulk of the evidence."

Florida State president John Thrasher said in a statement that the university selected the former state Supreme Court justice to remove any doubt about the integrity of the process.

"He (Harding) conducted a thorough Student Conduct Code hearing and reviewed more than 1,000 pages of evidence generated by three other investigations, and we would like to thank him sincerely for his service," Thrasher said.

Harding wrote that both sides' version of the events had strengths and weaknesses, but he did not find the credibility of one "substantially stronger than the other."

"In sum, the preponderance of the evidence has not shown that you are responsible for any of the charged violations of the Code," Harding wrote.

Winston family adviser David Cornwell did not respond to requests for comment.

Cornwell has contended that attorneys for the former student pushed for the hearing after they were rebuffed in an attempt to reach a settlement with Winston.

Florida State faces Oregon in the College Football Playoffs semifinal on Jan. 1. Before the ruling, there were questions whether Winston would be available to play. The Seminoles won a national championship with Winston at the helm last season and have not lost a game since he earned the starting job before the beginning of the 2013 season.

Florida State is currently being investigated by the Department of Education on how hit handles possible Title IX violations. The woman who said Winston assaulted her filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education Office for Civil Rights, which decided the university should be investigated for possible Title IX violations over the way it responds to sexual violence complaints.

Title IX is a federal statute that bans discrimination at schools that receive federal funding. The Department of Education in 2011 warned schools of their legal responsibilities to immediately investigate allegations of sexual assault and domestic violence, even if the criminal investigation has not concluded.

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 09:03:49 PM »
Hope he is learning from all this. Wonder if he will stay in college.
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 09:08:18 PM »
I am surprised insert sarcasm. No way is he going to miss the playoffs

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 09:10:56 PM »
I was thinking about next years draft.
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 10:43:56 PM »
I am surprised insert sarcasm. No way is he going to miss the playoffs

He wasn't going to miss the playoffs anyway.  Even if the decision wasn't in his favor he would have had the right to appeal, so he still would have been able to play.

The judge had no affiliation with FSU - he was a retired State Supreme Court Jurist and saw what everybody else who perused the info saw - none of her stories (which changed more than once) added up, and it didn't mesh with forensic evidence or witness statements (including her friends).  

Hopefully this witch hunt is now over.
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 08:53:04 AM »
Good for Jameis.  :nod:
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 10:40:22 AM »
By KAREEM COPELAND
Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP)...."We will consider an appeal but right now we feel a little duped," said Baine Kerr, one of the woman's lawyers. "At some point we have to recognize that Florida State is never going to hold James Winston responsible."...http://www.walb.com/story/27682046/qb-jameis-winston-cleared-in-conduct-hearing
What an absolutely ridiculous statement.  The school dragged this on two years after the fact to appease this woman.  Heck, if I were Winston, I'd have left FSU the minute they brought the now dismissed charges against him and started working out with a pro coach.  No doubt they will hound Winston until they're paid... which is what they've been holding out for all along.  The sad thing is, it'll probably happen once he gets a contract just to shut her up. 

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2014, 12:05:22 PM »
Nope.   I doubt it.  David Cornwell, who is Jameis' attorney, said that if she files a civil suit, they will countersue her,  attorney Clune, and her aunt/attorney Patricia Carroll (who is a complete idiot by the way).

Find it interesting that attorney Clune is attacking Florida State now, when he was praising the Student Conduct proceedings a few weeks ago. 

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2014, 12:47:27 PM »
Nope.   I doubt it.  David Cornwell, who is Jameis' attorney, said that if she files a civil suit, they will countersue her,  attorney Clune, and her aunt/attorney Patricia Carroll (who is a complete idiot by the way).
Which still doesn't mean they won't pay her some negligible amount (which will be sealed with a confidentiality clause so as not to embarrass her attorneys).  An NFL team might insist upon it in order to sign him... and might even chip in somehow. 

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2014, 03:53:35 PM »
Perhaps, but based on his attorney's statements, he wants to set an example by citing the attorneys.  He seemed really pissed in his interview and his tweets.  

Would she file the civil suit prior to him signing a contract?   I think winning covers a multitude of faults, and considering he has been exonerated 3 times already, I don't know if an NFL team would
care as long as he is winning.  
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 11:36:38 AM »
Would she file the civil suit prior to him signing a contract? 

As a pending Title IX action remains against FSU, filing suit and demanding monetary compensation prior to its conclusion wouldn't put her in the best light.  So that has to get wrapped up first.  Sure, an NFL team will be interested in Winston, but they'll want to resolve any lingering issues as a civil suit could take years to conclude; and no team wants that sort of distraction.  That's why I see some sort of nominal settlement down the road despite the tough talk from Winston's attorney.   

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 11:49:30 AM »
Jamie's should pay her no attention....



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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 12:04:26 PM »
Jamie's should pay her no attention....
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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 01:24:36 PM »
That's right!!  I am of the mind frame... I am not paying hush money on something I didn't do.  BUMMMP That!!

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Re: QB Jameis Winston cleared in conduct hearing
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2014, 10:34:43 AM »
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/12/24/tallahassee-police-department-florida-state-athletes/20867931/

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Wednesday, Dec 24, 2014 2:58 pm
   
ESPN Requested Police Records For The Names Of 360 Florida State Athletes
Matt Lombardi


In response to an ESPN public records request made by Outside The Lines reporter Paula Lavigne, the Tallahassee Police Department has released hundreds of police incident reports referencing Florida State student-athletes. Lavigne, in an email dated September 17, 2014, requested reports for over 360 athletes – whether they were listed as a victim, suspect, witness or reporting party. Lavigne also noted in her communication that ESPN was not “fishing” – she claims it will be used for part of an analytical study.

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