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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2014, 10:09:45 AM »
Well it is what it is. I'm just glad to have him and I look forward to working with him and supporting him. :nod:
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2014, 07:42:45 PM »
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2014, 11:31:11 AM »
Yogi, how about explaining what you call "real rules". 

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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 11:38:23 AM »
Leon Douglas wants to set the record straight.

Montgomery Advertiser August 11,2014

When Tuskegee announced his resignation last month, the release said the school offered him a compensation package that would have made him the highest paid basketball coach in the SIAC.

That didn't set well with the new Miles College coach.

"First and foremost, it was not about money," he said. "That's seems to be what this whole thing is centered on. They offered me this great contract, OK, and I refused it because I wanted more money. That shook me when I saw in the paper that it was about a contract and about a dollar."

In his eight seasons at Tuskegee, Douglas said he never received a new contract until June when the school offered him $95,000 a year. Tuskegee indicated in the release it was rewarding Douglas for leading the Tigers to a SIAC tournament title and the NCAA Division II Elite Eight for the first time in school history.

It turns out what Douglas, 59, needed was something money can't buy — trust. Douglas was at odds with athletic director Curtis Campbell about a number of things that included the number of players he could have and didn't feel fully supported by the administration.

Campbell didn't respond to an email request last month from the Montgomery Advertiser about what Tuskegee offered Douglas.

"When you mentally know there are road blocks? That's enough," Douglas said. "It's like going to school and every day you have to see the principal. If you have to stop at the principal's office every day, you get a phobia. That's what it was like. I was not comfortable."

Before that, Douglas said Campbell rejected a new contract he had negotiated with then university provost and executive vice president, Dr. Luther S. Williams, who retired in September 2013.

"I showed him the contract that Dr. Williams had agreed upon, but he said Dr. Williams is not here anymore and I'm not doing a new contract," said Douglas about Campbell, who became Tuskegee's athletic director in July 2013 after working the same position at Stillman for six years.

Douglas isn't having those issues at Miles. Not only is Douglas receiving a compensation package valued at six figures a year on a two-year deal, Miles is providing him a peace of mind that's priceless.

"I've got total communication for the first time with the president and the administration," he said. "The president and (chief financial officer), I have a direct line to them. I can call them. I can communicate with them. When I was at Tuskegee for eight years, I couldn't talk to a president or administration."

Douglas said he would've "shopped himself" right after leading Tuskegee to its best season ever if he really wanted to leave. Signing a three-year deal for $70,000 a year when arriving at Tuskegee in 2006, Douglas said he only received cost of living increases and $5,000 raise before last season.

Douglas never received a new contract after his first one expired. For a man who worked tirelessly under average conditions and hadn't taken a vacation for eight years, this was a growing problem.

"From that particular point on, you could walk in any day and say, 'hey man, this is your last day,' and that's it," Douglas said. "I worked from 2009 until this particular year without a contract."

Douglas still felt as if it would all work out, but it was mid-June and he hadn't talked to Campbell or anyone about his future. Douglas fielded calls for Division I jobs, but didn't pursue them. A Leighton native and former All-American at Alabama, Douglas didn't want to leave his home state.

So Douglas stayed patient, but after months of waiting, he hired a representative to negotiate a new deal. Douglas was told to wait until after Tuskegee hired a new president. So he did and was offered a new contract in late June, but was given a short time to respond because the fiscal year ends June 30.

"When I really sat down and took inventory with where I was, I didn't feel comfortable," Douglas said. "I didn't feel wanted because you know when you're wanted and when you're not wanted."

Despite having seven ADs in eight years and feeling unappreciated, Douglas said leaving Tuskegee was the hardest thing he's had to do as a coach. Former Penn State head coach Jerry Dunn replaced Douglas last week.

"I had become a part of that community," Douglas said. "I'd become a part of that school, and I sacrificed a lot to achieve what I accomplished. I told people that by being at Tuskegee, I'd have a chance to win a national championship because I had put the work in.

"It's like you're uprooting and leaving something you worked eight years to get to that point."

Douglas will try to turn around a program that won just four games last season. When at Tuskegee, Douglas would say the SIAC West title runs through Tuskegee.

New school. Same motto.

"It runs through Miles now," said Douglas, who has led two SIAC schools — Tuskegee and Stillman — to conference championships and NCAA tournament bids.

Miles is providing Douglas something he didn't have at Tuskegee — a full-time assistant. Edward Colvin was his assistant at Tuskegee, but Colvin was also the Tuskegee's head softball coach.

"I basically worked eight years by myself, in a sense, because my other guy, he was helping me, but he was divided," said Douglas, who won the 2014 Clarence "Big House" Gaines college basketball coach of the year award for the top minority coach in Division II.

It bothered Douglas to see head football coach Willie Slater making six figures a year and have 10 assistants while he did yeoman's work in making Tuskegee a conference power and national title contender. Tuskegee has made three NCAA appearances in basketball with two being under Douglas.

"God knows I know Tuskegee is a football school," Douglas said. "But in the midst of this, we proved as a program, we belong. From a national perspective, basketball is on a more national level than football."

So along with feeling unappreciated, Douglas was clearly not on the same page with Campbell.

In a radio interview with WAOK-AM 1380 in Atlanta, Douglas said he and Campbell "weren't compatible on a lot of issues and a lot of things that had allowed me to be successful in the past, those are things he wanted to change. I'm an old dog and old dogs like to hunt the same way."

Campbell told Douglas in the middle of last season he could only have 15 players. In the past, Douglas had 20 or more players, but a bad experience at Tuskegee led him to start padding his roster.

Not understanding Tuskegee's academic model, Douglas told me he had several players flunk out his first year there. So Douglas started recruiting players who could handle the academic side, but also developed a way to split up scholarship dollars to help pay tuition for more athletes.

Division II schools get 10 scholarships, but Douglas also used funding from grants for students from low-income homes, academic scholarship funds and Pell Grant money to provide aid for more players.

"He came in and said this person said we have too many guys on the roster," Douglas said. "You know, whoever your enemy is, they're looking for a way to neutralize your enemy."

When Campbell placed that player limit, Douglas saw that as the final straw.

"That told me right there that I was getting ready to go back to what it was in the beginning," he said.

As hard as it was to part ways, Douglas has done so — but he's adamant that it wasn't about the money.

Douglas placed greater value on having trust and feeling respected and appreciated. If after eight years of hard work and achieving success Douglas still had those issues, he was bound to leave sooner or later.

(Duane Rankin is a columnist and sports writer for the Advertiser. Follow him on Twitter at @DuaneRankin. He can be reached via email at dmrankin@gannett.com).
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 12:12:52 PM »
MilesBear1,

TU Nation is moving on. He has moved on.  I certainly wish Coach Douglas the best at Miles College.   :nod:
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2014, 12:40:52 PM »
Thank you TU TIger. :nod:
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 03:18:51 PM »
I feel the same TU Tiger,,,, I wish him the best..... he did great things here :clap: :clap:
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 10:20:40 PM »
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 09:53:50 AM »
Wish him the best but those who know know... :tiptoe:


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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 10:21:33 AM »
Wish him the best but those who know know... :tiptoe:

As my granddaddy used to say "its spilt milk now, moving right along." 

 :offtopic: Plans are set to come to Tuskegee to watch AAMU play the team coached by the "white man in black skin". :lol:  Haven't been there since '96 and looking forwarded to seeing the changes on campus.  Hope you are coming. :nod:
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2014, 06:23:01 PM »
That is the plan although now with the water in the basement from yesterday's torrential rain... :brickwall:


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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 12:26:17 PM »
GK you don't have a pump to pump that water out of your Basement?
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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 04:00:13 PM »
Fortunately I only had a couple of inches but it was tearing out the carpeting and getting it out - plus the computer and freezer are down there. Thank God my freezer and washer/dryer sit on cinder blocks...


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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 10:48:25 AM »
Who cares where a man goes to church and what does that have to do with Tuskegee football?   :shrug:

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Re: Leon Douglas - real reason 4 leaving Skegee'
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2014, 12:09:02 AM »
Since you attend St. Mark you should atleast know the the pastors name. It is Rev.  Dr. C P NOBEL not NOPEL. It appears you are totally consumed with hate on Coach Slater and the TU football team. If your put 10 % of your hate of Slater into love your "school" you would be getting National recognition from you alumni. No matter what you comment on you find a way to put his name in it.  If I dislike someone as much as you do Coach Slater his name would be the last to come out of my mouth.  :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :dedhorse: :dedhorse: .... Did Coach Douglas have any camps in his 6 yrs as Tuskegee Basketball Coach? Just asking you know everything else.
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