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Offline Strike79

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Mississippi peeps
« on: September 21, 2012, 06:40:11 PM »
I just heard a recent report of some kind of statistical study which concluded that the Magnolia State is the poorest in the nation.  Don't know what criteria was used, but a recent trip in the northern part of the state does offer some perspective.

Just returned to Nashville after a three days business trip to Memphis.  And on Thursday, had some time on my hand so made a road trip to a couple of locations in the northern part of the state.  I first drove to Holly Springs where, among other things, I drove around Rust College, an historic black college.  While the physical plant wasn't exactly "pristine," the school didn't necessarily look like like it was falling down.

But after leaving Holly Springs, I drove to a locale that I have been interested in seeing for a number of years.  I drove to Oxford, the home of the Univ. of Miss, "Ole Miss".  Guys, I gotta tell ya, THAT was a surreal experience for me.  The campus is really lovely, clean, nicely landscaped, it reminded me of Univ of the South, or Sewanee, for those who've been on that campus.

Man, talking about a DISPARITY of wealth.  I realize that Rust is private and Ole Miss is public, but the difference in looks of those two campuses was compelling.  Drove around the town square in Oxford, which is written about in alot of magazines of southern lifestyle.  It REALLY is charming.

But I gotta tell ya, driving around Oxford and Ole Miss was an unnerving experience for me.  Sorry, but just could not banish from my mind the ugly, HORRIBLE, racial history of that campus, the city, and the entire freakin state.  I'm sure that Ole Miss and the city of Oxford have a "decent" representation of negroes, but I sure as hell didn't see any, save a couple of teenage boys and some workers at the local Chick-fil-A.

After seeing Rust and Ole Miss, driving back to Memphis through all the "piney" woods was not all that uplifting.

Like to get feedback from peeps who are from the state and/or have relatives there, or those who've driven through the state.

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 08:48:10 PM »

Sound like a very interesting trip. Never been to northern portion of Mississippi, only the Gulf area.

Being a native Alabamian I think I have an adequate imagination... ;).
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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2012, 09:37:35 PM »
Mississippi is a cesspool. Even if I was from there I wouldnt tell anybody I was, and I would be on the first thing smoking out of there on my 18th birthday.

It is the fattest,most racist, most backward, and most unappealing state in this whole country....and that is really saying a lot with places like New Mexico and Utah in the mix.

No sports teams
No Prestigious universities
No iconic images
No major tourist destinations(Yes I know about the casinos...and only low class hicks would go there)
No decent women
No Freethinking
No economy


A terrible, terrible, terrible place. :no:


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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 09:40:52 PM »
Funny how they are the pooerest and republican too.

Always whining about government intrusion, while better states fund their dump by their own taxes. Mississippi gave nothing to this country but embarrassment, sadness, and disappointment.

Left to their own devices they would be as poor as the Eastern Europeans, but at least they could claim years of failed communism for their plight. Mississippi can only blame itself, and its low IQ populace, for its issues.

The majority of the people there dont even think interracial marriage should be legal...a bunch of savages in the modern age. :lol: :lol:


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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 09:10:41 AM »
Mississippi, is a state that is challenged by itself and backward thinking leadership.  However, and strangely, I have always like the black Mississippians I have met in my life.  They seem to have both feet on the ground and reasonable.  I have only been to Mississippi once and was tricked into going by misleading advertising.  The voluntary meeting was stated as a Memphis event.  We signed up and when we got there the shuttle took us to Tunica, Mississippi..  When I saw the sign, WELCOME TO MISSISSIPPI, I almost bonked in my pants. What the @*@":# was this person taking us.  Ended up in a nice hotel with GAMBLING.    I didn't lose any money cause I didn't play.  I was told that that county was the poorest in America prior to the gambling coming in.  Now people have jobs and a paycheck, but the county still l has its challenges.  Mississippi does not have a great state, nor private university.  The flagship school,  Ole Miss,  might be as good as say a East Carolina.  Might be, I said.  None can touch major east coast flag ship universities at all.   

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 11:19:09 AM »
My brother in-law, who is originally from South Florida, attended Jackson State.  He chose to remain in Jackson, Mississippi after he graduated. He has a successful business, a beautiful home, and he loves his life in Mississippi. I always have a very pleasant time in Mississippi when I visit. 

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 01:54:14 PM »
My brother in-law, who is originally from South Florida, attended Jackson State.  He chose to remain in Jackson, Mississippi after he graduated. He has a successful business, a beautiful home, and he loves his life in Mississippi. I always have a very pleasant time in Mississippi when I visit. 

You might not say that if you visit the wrong side of the tracks in Biloxi. 
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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2012, 01:54:51 PM »
...............well, I appreciate the comments that have been posted so far.  My intent when initiating this discussion was not to necessarily provide a forum for peeps to disparage the state.  But the history of the place is what it is.  And, sadly, by seemingly EVERY indicia of human progress, Miss consistently ranks at or near the bottom in this country.

As I mentioned in the lead post, I only traveled around parts of the northern parts of the state.  I have been to Jackson, the capital, only once in my life, and that was for a football game in the late 70's when I was an undergraduate at FAMU.  I don't remember anything about the city, and not sure I even saw the J-State campus.  The game was played in some state-owned facility named in tribute to confederate soldiers or something.  :(

I REALLY wanted to walk a bit around the town square in Oxford, but the parking situation was simply horrendous.  Additionally, the absence of black folks was a tad unnerving for me.  There was a department store on the square which advertised they've been in business since the early 20th century or something.  I got REALLY sad thinking about what it must have been like for black folks to shop in that store as recently as, say, 40 yrs ago.  :(

Look, there is ALOT more of the state I'm interested in seeing.  I have never been on their gulf coast, and I understand the beaches are very nice.  I haven't traveled in the delta region either.

But the dichotomy that epitomizes Miss is not going away anytime soon.  Although it is one of POOREST states in the union, the white vote will go overwhelmingly for one of the wealthiest presidential candidates we have ever had.  THAT candidate and 99% of the white electorate in Miss will have ONE thing in common and one thing only.  And that's something that 99% of the white electorate does NOT have with the incumbent president.  But for white Mississippians, that is the ONLY thing that matters.

MAN!, how sad.  :(

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 05:30:03 AM »
I've meet a small handful of Blacks who've attended Old Miss and apparently enjoyed it to some degree. I think from the outside looking in the school is very big on traditions and there lies the problem.

I got the same feeling Strike79 did while driving around the University of Virginia several years ago.Stunning campus,steeped in history but seeing Monticelo and all that Thomas Jefferson represents to me said this place though we can be admitted as students and staff is not "for" us and never will be.

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:33 AM »
People are people.  I refuse to make broad, sweeping generalizations about folks but the peeps I know from Mississippi are down, educated, intelligent and forward thinking people.  You have a broad cross-section regardless of what locale you're in.  Folks in the 'Sip aren't really that different than folks in NYC, imo.  Them mugs put their pants on the same way. 

But to address Stike's latest point....it is sad indeed when you focus on the stark reality that quite a few southern states are in that same position, consistently.  Despite having major job industries come in and set up shop, there seems to be an inherent ability to remain @ status quo - economically, educationally.  It's baffling on the surface, but having been a product of a similar environment, it's clear, at least to me, that most are content with how things are, especially since they are not seeking to improve their proverbial lot in life.  Again, the remaining @ status quo concept. 

 

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 06:41:22 PM »
Strike, it is a mixture of several things you mentioned, plus ignorance among Black elected officials. 

Jackson has the potential of being a huge, thriving city with a great quality of life....especially being that 2 major interstates run right through the city.  The city has been plagued with backwards, crooked leadership for a very long time.  West Jackson is the epitome of "urban decay".  The roads are horrible because all of the tax base in the metro area has moved to the suburbs.  If you go to any of the surrounding municipalities, you will find that their roads and school systems are light years ahead of Jackson.

As far as the rest of the state, I think it boils down to the good old boy network that just does not believe in the redistribution of wealth.  They, especially former Gov. Haley Barber, believe in keeping the "old money" right where it is while everyone else should fend for themselves.

Strike, as far as comparing Rust College to Ole Miss, you really can't compare the 2 because one is a private HBCU while the other is the flagship public university.  I will say that the state is just now beginning to see the importance of investing in all of its public universities but they are still behind the times.  Jackson State is probably the best overall university in the state, given its track record for public service, research, fund raising, and academic reputation.  The likes of Ole Miss and MS State are frowned upon by their SEC counterparts.  The state needs to really invest in green energy, improving the quality of life via some HOPE 6 grants, improving the infrastructure of its cities, investing more in is universities, improving its public image, and soliciting out-of-state companies to relocate their businesses to MS.  It actually has a lot of potential.  They just have poor leadership.

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 09:56:30 PM »
Native Mississippian here... born and raised first 16 yrs of my life...

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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 09:33:33 AM »
Strike, it is a mixture of several things you mentioned, plus ignorance among Black elected officials. 

Jackson has the potential of being a huge, thriving city with a great quality of life....especially being that 2 major interstates run right through the city.  The city has been plagued with backwards, crooked leadership for a very long time.  West Jackson is the epitome of "urban decay".  The roads are horrible because all of the tax base in the metro area has moved to the suburbs.  If you go to any of the surrounding municipalities, you will find that their roads and school systems are light years ahead of Jackson.

As far as the rest of the state, I think it boils down to the good old boy network that just does not believe in the redistribution of wealth.  They, especially former Gov. Haley Barber, believe in keeping the "old money" right where it is while everyone else should fend for themselves.

Strike, as far as comparing Rust College to Ole Miss, you really can't compare the 2 because one is a private HBCU while the other is the flagship public university.  I will say that the state is just now beginning to see the importance of investing in all of its public universities but they are still behind the times.  Jackson State is probably the best overall university in the state, given its track record for public service, research, fund raising, and academic reputation.  The likes of Ole Miss and MS State are frowned upon by their SEC counterparts.  The state needs to really invest in green energy, improving the quality of life via some HOPE 6 grants, improving the infrastructure of its cities, investing more in is universities, improving its public image, and soliciting out-of-state companies to relocate their businesses to MS.  It actually has a lot of potential.  They just have poor leadership.
..........sir, I wanted to acknowledge that I read your post, and I thank you for your contribution to this thread.  Having attended Jackson State, you have some unique perspectives on the topic.

Thanks, again.

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 09:43:13 AM »
........guys, there is one other thing I wanted to say on the matter.

While there is no doubt that Mississippi, among ALL of the southern states, stands out for its VICIOUS racial past and its excruciating poverty, there is nothing "magical" either about the state where your humble poster has resided for the last 30+ years - Rocky Top.

Mississippi may rank last in so many social indicators, but Rocky Top is ALWAYS somewhere lurking near the bottom.  And that's why you often hear the phrase - Thank God for Mississippi:(

The public school system throughout the state (Rocky Top) is nothing to brag about, and there is not ONE public college or university in this state that bears ANY academic distinction whatsoever.  The average educational attainment is fairly low, the median income ranks at or near the bottom, and it goes on and on.  YET, and I'm sure this will come as no surprise to anyone, Rocky Top is expected to vote HEAVILY for Gov. Romney in November.

Good God!  >:(

Oh, well, seriously guys, I actually look forward to other trips to the Magnolia State.  My barber and his wife just returned from a blues festival in Clarksdale.  As I mentioned earlier, its been over 30+ years since that one day bus trip to Jackson, of which I don't remember a damn thing.  So a trip to the capital would be interesting.  I also look forward, as previously mentioned, to visiting the Miss Gulf coast, which I understand is very beautiful.

Anyway, thanks for ALL of you peeps' perspectives on this topic.  :clap:

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Re: Mississippi peeps
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 10:53:54 AM »
As far as public school systems, i.e., elementary, high school, Gawga and Virginia aren't
much better.  It seems like its a goal to see who can be...THE WORST!  :brickwall:


 

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