[soflorattler]

The Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has released investigative findings determining that children in predominantly black Meridian, Miss. have had their constitutional rights violated by the Lauderdale County Youth Court, the Meridian Police Department, and the Mississippi Division of Youth Services in what civil rights investigators allege is a school to prison pipeline with even dress code violations resulting in incarceration.

The Justice Department has been investigating the agencies since December 2011 and found that the police department arrests children  without probable cause, violating the children’s Fourth Amendment protections of unlawful search and seizure.

Also in the findings letter the Civil Rights Division alleges that “Lauderdale County and the Youth Court Judges violate the Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments by failing to provide children procedural due process in the youth court. Lauderdale County, the Youth Court judges, and the Mississippi Division of Youth Services violate the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments by failing to provide children procedural due process rights in the probationary process.”

The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments protect against abuse of government authority in legal proceedings and fairness of due process rights,  respectively.

“The system established by the City of Meridian, Lauderdale County, and DYS to incarcerate children for school suspensions ‘shocks the conscience,’ resulting in the incarceration of children for alleged ‘offenses’ such as dress code violations, flatulence, profanity, and disrespect.” The Justice Department findings letter noted.

Describing the “school-to-prison pipeline” the Justice Department findings letter noted of the alleged abuses by the police, “By policy and practice, [the Meridian Police Department] MPD automatically arrests all students referred to MPD by the District. The children arrested by MPD are then sent to the County juvenile justice system, where existing due process protections are illusory and inadequate. The Youth Court places children on probation, and the terms of the probation set by the Youth Court and DYS require children on probation to serve any suspensions from school incarcerated in the juvenile detention center.”

“The systematic disregard for children’s basic constitutional rights by agencies with a duty to protect and serve these children betrays the public trust,” said Thomas E. Perez, assistant attorney general for the Civil Rights Division.  “We hope to resolve the concerns outlined in our findings in a collaborative fashion, but we will not hesitate to take appropriate legal action if necessary.”

About 62 percent of Meridian’s population is African American, and  the Justice Department alleges that mostly African American children and children with disabilities are impacted by the unconstitutional policies.

The Justice Department alleged in its  findings letter that two Youth Court Judges have consistently denied civil rights investigators access to information about the policies and practices of the Youth Court.

The Civil Rights Division is seeking to negotiate with Meridian officials on the findings and if an agreement is not reached, the Justice Department can sue them.

The Meridian Police Department declined to comment when contacted by ABC News. ABC News is also awaiting comment from the Mississippi Division of Youth Services, the county court and an attorney representing the city of Meridian.

[y04185]

I'm not surprised.  This is the same Meridian, MS where the NAACP sued a Black defense contractor for discrimination because he didn't hire the dead weight when he won a federal contract. 

[Cholly]

As USUAL... 

[soflorattler]

 

[RedBuddha]

Thank God I moved from there as a child. So sad!

[Bison 4 Life]

Pathetic on so many levels.

[Wildman78]

I'm not surprised.  This is the same Meridian, MS where the NAACP sued a Black defense contractor for discrimination because he didn't hire the dead weight when he won a federal contract. 

How is this comment relevant to this thread. How is the NAACP suing a Black contractor for not hiring so-called dead weight similar to the Justice Department investigating the Juvenile Justice System for violating the Due Process rights of children.

BTW, could you provide us with a link to that NAACP lawsuit.

[y04185]

Wildman, I will not provide you with a link.  You never ask Ken to provide a link.  When you stop being bias I will consider providing doing so.  You have enough information to look it up yourself.

The NAACP said the new contractor fired Black workers.  The new contractor, who was Black, told the truth.  He said he didn't fire anyone because they never worked for him.  The judge's comment in the case is hilarious.

[Wildman78]

Wildman, I will not provide you with a link.  You never ask Ken to provide a link.  When you stop being bias I will consider providing doing so.  You have enough information to look it up yourself.

The NAACP said the new contractor fired Black workers.  The new contractor, who was Black, told the truth.  He said he didn't fire anyone because they never worked for him.  The judge's comment in the case is hilarious.

This ain't between you and Ken. This is between you and I. I frequently provide sources to provide links to what back up my factual claims. Don't understand why you are dragging Ken into this. Maybe you can't find a link to back up your claim.  

If I was in a debate with Ken and Ken made a claim that I found somewhat implausible, I would request that he post a link. However, I can't recall ever being in a debate with Ken.  But since this discussion is between you and I, why don't we just leave Ken out of it.

I don't recall you ever asking uchighlander to provide a link. However, I would not use that as an excuse for not providing a link if you requested one from me.

Always looking for a way to make personal attacks instead of dealing with the merits. Again, you should try to be bigger.  

Anyway, the request for a link to the story was a "BTW" afterthought.  I just wanted to read the story to see if you were reporting it accurately. I still do not see how that story is relevant to the lead post in this thread.  You didn't answer the first 2 questions I posed.

How is the NAACP suing a Black contractor for not hiring so-called dead weight similar to the Justice Department investigating the Juvenile Justice System for violating the Due Process rights of children?

How is that relevant to to this thread?

Assuming what you say about the NAACP suing the Black contractor is true, what does that have to do with this current investigation by the Justice Department?

They seemed to be 2 completely different stories dealing with two completely different issues.  The only similarity in the stories seems to be that both stories involve Black people in Mississippi.

[soflorattler]

WM, don't  him too bad... 

[Wildman78]

No response y04185?

[MisterIkester]

No response y04185?

Y gets schooled. Y impersonates a F-18 on full afterburner.

SOP.

[y04185]

Wildman, I will not provide you with a link.  You never ask Ken to provide a link.  When you stop being bias I will consider providing doing so.  You have enough information to look it up yourself.

The NAACP said the new contractor fired Black workers.  The new contractor, who was Black, told the truth.  He said he didn't fire anyone because they never worked for him.  The judge's comment in the case is hilarious.

This ain't between you and Ken. This is between you and I. I frequently provide sources to provide links to what back up my factual claims. Don't understand why you are dragging Ken into this. Maybe you can't find a link to back up your claim.  

If I was in a debate with Ken and Ken made a claim that I found somewhat implausible, I would request that he post a link. However, I can't recall ever being in a debate with Ken.  But since this discussion is between you and I, why don't we just leave Ken out of it.

I don't recall you ever asking uchighlander to provide a link. However, I would not use that as an excuse for not providing a link if you requested one from me.

Always looking for a way to make personal attacks instead of dealing with the merits. Again, you should try to be bigger.  

Anyway, the request for a link to the story was a "BTW" afterthought.  I just wanted to read the story to see if you were reporting it accurately. I still do not see how that story is relevant to the lead post in this thread.  You didn't answer the first 2 questions I posed.

How is the NAACP suing a Black contractor for not hiring so-called dead weight similar to the Justice Department investigating the Juvenile Justice System for violating the Due Process rights of children?

How is that relevant to to this thread?

Assuming what you say about the NAACP suing the Black contractor is true, what does that have to do with this current investigation by the Justice Department?

They seemed to be 2 completely different stories dealing with two completely different issues.  The only similarity in the stories seems to be that both stories involve Black people in Mississippi.

Wildman, when has anyone asked uch to provide a link and he said he did not have to?  Ken has done that and you did not call him out on it.  Your problem is you have a double standard when it comes to the democrats/liberals on this board and the Republicans/conservatives on this board.  When you start calling out those people I will consider your request for a link.  Until then the answer is no I don't have to.

The new Black contractor did not hire everyone from the previous contractor.  The majority of them were Black.  They went to the NAACP.  The NAACP sued the Black contractor claiming he had fired the workers.  The Black contractor claimed he had not fired anyone because they never worked for him.  The case went to federal court.  The Black contractor won the case.

[Wildman78]

Wildman, I will not provide you with a link.  You never ask Ken to provide a link.  When you stop being bias I will consider providing doing so.  You have enough information to look it up yourself.

The NAACP said the new contractor fired Black workers.  The new contractor, who was Black, told the truth.  He said he didn't fire anyone because they never worked for him.  The judge's comment in the case is hilarious.

This ain't between you and Ken. This is between you and I. I frequently provide sources to provide links to what back up my factual claims. Don't understand why you are dragging Ken into this. Maybe you can't find a link to back up your claim.  

If I was in a debate with Ken and Ken made a claim that I found somewhat implausible, I would request that he post a link. However, I can't recall ever being in a debate with Ken.  But since this discussion is between you and I, why don't we just leave Ken out of it.

I don't recall you ever asking uchighlander to provide a link. However, I would not use that as an excuse for not providing a link if you requested one from me.

Always looking for a way to make personal attacks instead of dealing with the merits. Again, you should try to be bigger.  

Anyway, the request for a link to the story was a "BTW" afterthought.  I just wanted to read the story to see if you were reporting it accurately. I still do not see how that story is relevant to the lead post in this thread.  You didn't answer the first 2 questions I posed.

How is the NAACP suing a Black contractor for not hiring so-called dead weight similar to the Justice Department investigating the Juvenile Justice System for violating the Due Process rights of children?

How is that relevant to to this thread?

Assuming what you say about the NAACP suing the Black contractor is true, what does that have to do with this current investigation by the Justice Department?

They seemed to be 2 completely different stories dealing with two completely different issues.  The only similarity in the stories seems to be that both stories involve Black people in Mississippi.

Wildman, when has anyone asked uch to provide a link and he said he did not have to?  Ken has done that and you did not call him out on it.  Your problem is you have a double standard when it comes to the democrats/liberals on this board and the Republicans/conservatives on this board.  When you start calling out those people I will consider your request for a link.  Until then the answer is no I don't have to.

The new Black contractor did not hire everyone from the previous contractor.  The majority of them were Black.  They went to the NAACP.  The NAACP sued the Black contractor claiming he had fired the workers.  The Black contractor claimed he had not fired anyone because they never worked for him.  The case went to federal court.  The Black contractor won the case.

 

I don't see where I have a problem, I don't see where I have a double standard.  When I have reason to doubt the veracity of an assertion, I ask the poster making the assertion to provide a source and/or a link. Period. It doesn't matter who it is.

Seems to me that you are just looking for an excuse because you cannot find a link to the story. You can't prove that the story is true.   Maybe you are imagining things.  

Although it's beside the point, I asked ucihighlander to provide a  source for one of his assertions as recently as last week.

I'm sorry sir. Without corroboration from credible sources, I can't take anything you say too seriously. You are just shooting from the hip, using tired arse phrases like drinking Kool Aid   ....................Can you please act like you posess a college degree-- and provide credible sources to support your assertions.  That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, consider your speculative comments dismissed.

Bottom line you have produced no proof whatsoever, that Affordable Health Care Act will result in a significant tax increase for people who make under $250,000.  

http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,56287.15.html

I can't recall uchighander ever providing links or sources for his claims. However, it would be kind of crazy for me to use that as an excuse for not providing links. I hold myself at a higher standard.

However, I know that Ken frequently post links. So nothing you are saying makes sense.

But again, this isn't about Ken and Uchighlander. This is between you and me. I generally provide links to back  up what I say. Don't blame Ken for you not providing a link to me on this occasion.

Since you can't or won't provide a link to the story, I will simply doubt that its true. I could care less whether you provide a link. No problem.  

My main inquiry is why do you think your unsourced story about the NAACP suing a Black Contractor is relevant to this thread which is supposed to be about the Justice Department investigating this school to prison pipline scheme.

Could you please answer that question. I am not inclined to waste anymore time discussing who provides links/sources for their assertions and who doesn't.

[Cholly]

Wildman, you know his motto:



Don't waste your breath bruh...