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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 03:29:57 PM »
For number three I thought I would also post the following link.

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Five bizarre GOP reactions to bin Laden’s death

By Sahil Kapur
Monday, May 2nd, 2011 -- 12:58 pm

WASHINGTON – The news that Osama bin Laden was killed Sunday during a U.S. firefight in Pakistan led to heaps of praise for military service members and President Barack Obama, even from his biggest political adversaries. Some GOP responses, however, have been pretty bizarre.

Here's a roundup of some of the stranger reactions.

1) Obama's base didn't want this

MSNBC anchor and former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough (FL) suggested that killing bin Laden required Obama to defy his base and his beliefs.

"I think Republicans should stand up and certainly salute Barack Obama for making some — again, for making some very tough choices that his own base did not want him to make," Scarborough said. "That takes courage, that takes leadership, and we saw the results of that courage and leadership saying no to his own base yesterday."

Scarborough added that for Obama, this required "going against his own ideological leanings" -- even though Obama vowed as a candidate, "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda."

2) 'Welcome to hell, bin Laden'

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3) Bush deserves the credit

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4) Killing bin Laden vindicates waterboarding

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5) F!@# Pakistan's ex-president!

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 03:38:02 PM »
For number three I thought I would also post the following link.

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Five bizarre GOP reactions to bin Laden’s death

By Sahil Kapur
Monday, May 2nd, 2011 -- 12:58 pm

WASHINGTON – The news that Osama bin Laden was killed Sunday during a U.S. firefight in Pakistan led to heaps of praise for military service members and President Barack Obama, even from his biggest political adversaries. Some GOP responses, however, have been pretty bizarre.

Here's a roundup of some of the stranger reactions.

1) Obama's base didn't want this

MSNBC anchor and former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough (FL) suggested that killing bin Laden required Obama to defy his base and his beliefs.

"I think Republicans should stand up and certainly salute Barack Obama for making some — again, for making some very tough choices that his own base did not want him to make," Scarborough said. "That takes courage, that takes leadership, and we saw the results of that courage and leadership saying no to his own base yesterday."

Scarborough added that for Obama, this required "going against his own ideological leanings" -- even though Obama vowed as a candidate, "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaeda."

2) 'Welcome to hell, bin Laden'

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3) Bush deserves the credit

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4) Killing bin Laden vindicates waterboarding

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5) F!@# Pakistan's ex-president!

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I agree with all five points.

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 03:55:58 PM »
                             BARRY DIDN'T DO CHIT.

My thanks goes to our military and the brave men of special ops, Blue Light, Seals and Army Rangers. Also, those brave pilots who flew them to their mission. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I give a big up to our intel agencies (CIA and others) who no thanks to the Clinton Administration who had them all f'd up prior to the Bush Administration re-organization them in order to speak to one another and accomplish their mission.

would you honestly say the same if Bush was president?



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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 04:32:04 PM »
                             BARRY DIDN'T DO CHIT.

My thanks goes to our military and the brave men of special ops, Blue Light, Seals and Army Rangers. Also, those brave pilots who flew them to their mission. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I give a big up to our intel agencies (CIA and others) who no thanks to the Clinton Administration who had them all f'd up prior to the Bush Administration re-organization them in order to speak to one another and accomplish their mission.


YOU REMAIN A F***ING ILL-INFORMED IDIOT.   THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ADVISORS HAD BEEN PREPARING TO EXECUTE THIS MISSION FOR AT LEAST THE PAST 8 MONTHS IMEDIATELY AFTER THEY RECEIVED INTELLIGENCE REGARDING OBL's LOCATION.  SO TRUE, THE PRESIDENT DID NOT FIRE A SHOT, BUT THEN AGAIN THAT IS NOT HIS JOB AS THE POTUS.  HIS JOB IS TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP, GUIDANCE AND SET POLICY.   BUT THEN AGAIN, I WOULD NOT EXPECT ONE WHO WAS NEVER MORE THAN A RIFLE PLATOON LEADER TO UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLES OF STRATEGIC COMMAND AND CONTROL.
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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 04:38:26 PM »
                         
...who no thanks to the Clinton Administration who had them all f'd up prior to the Bush Administration re-organization them in order to speak to one another and accomplish their mission.

Who sabotaged the Tora Bora mission, and on whose watch did it happen?

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 04:44:43 PM »
                             BARRY DIDN'T DO CHIT.

My thanks goes to our military and the brave men of special ops, Blue Light, Seals and Army Rangers. Also, those brave pilots who flew them to their mission. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I give a big up to our intel agencies (CIA and others) who no thanks to the Clinton Administration who had them all f'd up prior to the Bush Administration re-organization them in order to speak to one another and accomplish their mission.


YOU REMAIN A F***ING ILL-INFORMED IDIOT.   THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ADVISORS HAD BEEN PREPARING TO EXECUTE THIS MISSION FOR AT LEAST THE PAST 8 MONTHS IMEDIATELY AFTER THEY RECEIVED INTELLIGENCE REGARDING OBL's LOCATION.  SO TRUE, THE PRESIDENT DID NOT FIRE A SHOT, BUT THEN AGAIN THAT IS NOT HIS JOB AS THE POTUS.  HIS JOB IS TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP, GUIDANCE AND SET POLICY.   BUT THEN AGAIN, I WOULD NOT EXPECT ONE WHO WAS NEVER MORE THAN A RIFLE PLATOON LEADER TO UNDERSTAND THE PRINCIPLES OF STRATEGIC COMMAND AND CONTROL.

The goal to kill or capture Bin Laden has been in place since it was discovered that he was the architect of 9/11.



The anti-war left are thumping their chest today over this killing.


Barry flip flops.


The far left explodes....over Obama's continuance of Bush foreign policies...




This was a unilateral operation...Something you (liberals/ socialists/communists opposed under Bush but now you chest beat under Barry.

NO YOU'RE THE IGNORANT a--.

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 05:14:10 PM »
I guess my question is this: If the current president didn't fire a shot, when did the former president fire a shot? ???  :shrug:

And lest we forget Tora Bora...or the 2002 quote from GWB...

http://www.50bushflipflops.com/Lecture_Outline/lesson1.html

1) Flip-Flop #1: Bush has flip-flopped about whether capturing Osama Bin Laden is an important priority for his administration.
FLIP: A week after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Bush said he wanted Osama Bin Laden "dead or alive."

FLOP: But he told reporters six months later, "I truly am not that concerned about him. It's not that important. It's not our priority." He also did not mention bin Laden in his hour-long convention acceptance speech this year.

Bush didn't order U.S. troops into Tora Bora to capture Osama Bin Laden right after the Afghanistan invasion. Instead, he relied on warlords who were of dubious loyalty and ability to find Osama Bin Laden and other members of Al Qaeda in that mountainous region. Later, when Iraq became this administration's priority, it shifted special forces from Afghanistan (where they had been searching for Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda members to Iraq).

What Bush has said about bin Laden at various points in time, depending on how he was trying to spin things:

FLIP: Capturing Osama Bin Laden is the number one priority:

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

Washington Post, 9/17/01, UPI: Bush said he wants accused terrorist leader Osama bin Laden "dead or alive.” “I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

AP, 12/14/01: President Bush pledged anew Friday that Osama bin Laden will be taken "dead or alive."

FLOP: Capturing OBL no longer a priority:

G.W. Bush, 3/13/02: I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."

"...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."

- Bush, in remarks in a Press Availability with the Press Travel Pool, The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on official White House site

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02) ]

Secondary Sources: A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY by Karen What Bush has said about bin laden... spin:

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/11/13_Laden.html and "President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief" ( September 2, 2004, Updated)
www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263



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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 07:34:35 PM »
Look at the link of the You Tube video I posted.

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 08:00:08 PM »
GOP leaders while praising Obama still cannot help themselves.

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Boehner On bin Laden: 'This Is Great News For The Security Of The American People'

Evan McMorris-Santoro | May 2, 2011, 12:36AM

House Speaker John Boehner called the death of Osama bin Laden "great news for the security of the American people and a victory in our continued fight against al Qaeda and radical extremism around the world," in a statement to reporters tonight.

"I also want to commend President Obama and his team, as well as President Bush, for all of their efforts to bring Osama bin Laden to justice," Boehner added.

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Gingrich: I Commend Both Bush And Obama For Bin Laden Killing
Eric Kleefeld | May 2, 2011, 2:22PM

ormer Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is exploring a run for president, released a statement this afternoon on the killing of Osama bin Laden, calling it a "significant victory in the long struggle between radical Islamists and modern civilization."

"I commend both President George W. Bush who led the campaign against our enemies through seven long years and President Obama who continued and intensified the campaign in both Afghanistan and Pakistan," said Gingrich. "We should remember to thank those who made this possible. Without the courage and professionalism of our men and women in uniform and in the intelligence services, this victory would not have been achieved."

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2011, 11:39:15 PM »
Dan Froomkin
Obama Succeeded Where Bush Failed: Osama Bin Laden Rhetoric And Reality
First Posted: 05/ 2/11 05:01 PM ET Updated: 05/ 2/11 10:26 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- As he announced the death of infamous terrorist Osama bin Laden on Sunday night, President Barack Obama struck an extraordinary contrast with his predecessor, George W. Bush.

That was to some degree unavoidable. Bush’s consistent failure to respond appropriately to bin Laden -- as a potential threat, as a fugitive, or as a public enemy no. 1 -- represents one of the greatest shortcomings of his presidency.

Obama has now succeeded where Bush failed. And it was impossible to hear Obama declare that "justice has been done" without thinking about how long it went undone.

But Obama also went out of his way to draw distinctions between how he approached the problem and how Bush did.

For instance, as the months and years went by after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks -- and Bush’s initial bluster about capturing the al Qaeda leader “dead or alive” became a source of embarrassment -- Bush began to insist that bin Laden himself wasn’t so very important.

"I truly am not that concerned about him," Bush said at a White House press conference on March 13, 2002. And of course the following March, he shifted America’s focus to Iraq, which proved to be a gigantic diversion.

Obama took a different tack.

"Shortly after taking office," the president explained Sunday night, "I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network."

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The Bush record on bin Laden, of course, starts with him failing to prevent the attacks in the first place. As has been exhaustively documented by now, during the summer of 2001, his White House waved off repeated warnings of an imminent attack from former counterterrorism director Richard A. Clarke and then-CIA director George Tenet.

Bush and his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, were said to be more focused on their pet issue, missile defense, and the hunt for a reason to attack Iraq. Bush, according to Bob Woodward, said he wasn't interested in "swatting flies."

The unsuccessful attempts to engage Bush culminated in a briefing he got while vacationing on his Texas ranch. As investigative reporter Ron Suskind reported in his book, "The One Percent Doctrine," an unnamed CIA operative flew to Crawford to call the president's attention personally to the now-famous Aug. 6, 2001, memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."

"All right," Suskind reported Bush saying after hearing out the operative. "You've covered your a--, now."

Former President Bill Clinton in 2006 notably complained that he came close to killing bin Laden in a 1998 missile strike, while Bush and the "right wingers ... had eight months to try [before 9/11]. They did not try. I tried. So I tried and failed. When I failed, I left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy and the best guy in the country, Dick Clarke, who got demoted."

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2011, 12:09:33 AM »
While it is NEVER necessary to contradict Olds.t's fact-free BS, it is fun.

Here we learn how the SEAL unit operates in contrast to Olds..t's ridiculous claim that the President had nothing to do with this operation to capture or kill bin Laden.
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DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.
http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/the-secret-team-that-killed-bin-laden-20110502
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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2011, 06:33:19 AM »
Why they did not thank Bill Clinton as well, oh I forgot you do not get any credit for saves. ::)
GK only you will bring common senses to any argument in a comical way. Yep Bush never fire a shot, and LLLLLLLLLLl, he never fired a shot when he had his chance back in the day. :snicker
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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2011, 08:37:53 AM »
Why they did not thank Bill Clinton as well, oh I forgot you do not get any credit for saves. ::)
GK only you will bring common senses to any argument in a comical way. Yep Bush never fire a shot, and LLLLLLLLLLl, he never fired a shot when he had his chance back in the day. :snicker

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Slight correction, Bush did fire up a few shots...not from a military weapon but from infinite numbers of fifths of Jack, Beam, Barcardi and Seagram's.....



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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2011, 08:41:21 AM »
Let's be clear on this: BARRY did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier who BARRY just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY did. BARRY just happen to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found OBL and took him out. This is NOT an Barry victory, but an AMERICAN VICTORY.
 

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Re: Notice the typical Obama-bashers are quiet this morning
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2011, 09:10:03 AM »
Well dumb ass , the POTUS is the commander in chief.  Had the raid went bad the POTUS would have been blasted and you would have been the first one to be critical. 

FACT
1. SIX MONTHS after 9/11 Bush said finding and killing Bin laden was not important
2. SIX MONTHS after 9/11 Bush dismantled the CIA Scout team whose main job was to find Bin Laden
3. In 2005, there was a special forces unit in the same area were Bin Laden was killed. In 2005, Bush disbanded that unit and that same year Bin Laden built that home in that area
4. BHO reinstated all the teams Bush dismantled and they killed Bin Laden.

I guess based on your premise George Washington was not the father of our country--the men who FOUGHT were the father of our country.  GW did not win no battles , nor any General in the military, all the credit goes to the men.


 

 

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