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Offline bigram$

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2011, 06:20:07 PM »
SO last week republicans screamed how Obama needs to take the lead and help the people of Libya....now all of a sudden he was wrong for acting unilaterally with the UN
So exactly when did he take the lead? He actually followed the President of France for God's sake. GO VIKINGS!!!

I never said he took the lead i said you guys complained that we werent the first in harms way ....and we didnt follow France we acted unilatterally with the United Nations.....you know that means we arent going it alone like we have done the last decade which has helped melt down our economy

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2011, 07:45:00 PM »
First off, let me applaude the POTUS for once again showing some leadership in the handling of this crisis.

Second, we are not at war.  Our troops - at the time of this posting - are not on Libyan soil.  Our Tomahawk missles aimed at military targets does not constitute a war.  I know the POTUS has acted correctly and has met the requirements of the War Powers Act. 

Once again, the Wrong-wing noise machine has flooded the net and airways with dayum lies and more dayum lies.  Think Rwanda and Burundi and those awful type of events and outcomes all over again. The US and the international community stood by as human beings were exterminated. If you need background on that I recommend the PBS video - Ghosts of Rwanda - as definitive coverage.

And as for hypocrisy, what's the Right's objection to Libya and this latest US military intervention? That there wasn't a declaration of war? When did St Reagan ask for a declaration of war when he pulled his various capers?

There was no consultation of Congress when active duty troops were deployed during the LA riots.

Despite the conservaturds' claims of hypocrisy, I don't actually see too much support for the operation, and what I see is tempered with concern for how in the world this can be ended quickly absent western ground troops. At least we aren't leading the charge to Tripoli (so far).

I know its in the Marine Hymn.  We've been there and done that once before.  Time for the French Foreign Legion to ride lead horse this time.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 06:38:16 AM »
First off, let me applaude the POTUS for once again showing some leadership in the handling of this crisis.

Second, we are not at war.  Our troops - at the time of this posting - are not on Libyan soil.  Our Tomahawk missles aimed at military targets does not constitute a war.  I know the POTUS has acted correctly and has met the requirements of the War Powers Act. 

Once again, the Wrong-wing noise machine has flooded the net and airways with dayum lies and more dayum lies.  Think Rwanda and Burundi and those awful type of events and outcomes all over again. The US and the international community stood by as human beings were exterminated. If you need background on that I recommend the PBS video - Ghosts of Rwanda - as definitive coverage.

And as for hypocrisy, what's the Right's objection to Libya and this latest US military intervention? That there wasn't a declaration of war? When did St Reagan ask for a declaration of war when he pulled his various capers?

There was no consultation of Congress when active duty troops were deployed during the LA riots.

Despite the conservaturds' claims of hypocrisy, I don't actually see too much support for the operation, and what I see is tempered with concern for how in the world this can be ended quickly absent western ground troops. At least we aren't leading the charge to Tripoli (so far).

I know its in the Marine Hymn.  We've been there and done that once before.  Time for the French Foreign Legion to ride lead horse this time.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 09:13:55 AM »
This is TRULY a new day and time.

The conservatives don't miss an opportunity to criticize the President.

They criticized him for inaction and when he does it RIGHT (UN resolution, coalition formation, minor role for U.S. Forces) then they criticize him for not asking permission.

Unfortunately, in looking at the most recent polls showing 70% of the American public in FAVOR of a Libyan no-fly zone, but only 50% of the same people approving of the President doing just that, you SEE how stupid the electorate of this Nation is in believing the gop talking points. >:(
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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 10:05:02 AM »
Stop making sense in this thread!!! :tiptoe:

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2011, 10:20:13 AM »
BT - the double Truf Bomb for Op please... :nod:


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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2011, 12:28:22 PM »
Here is a statement by Representative Ted Poe, a republican Congressman from Texas.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2011, 01:29:39 PM »
Truly sad that America has come to this

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2011, 07:38:34 AM »
NO K----S! This author penned the correct question. And it's the question you K----s should be asking yourselves. However, you won't because you are so wedded to Barry based soley on racial identity and your liberal/socialist/communist bias.

What does Obama (aka Barry Sotero) really believe?


March 24, 2011

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"The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. As commander in chief, the president does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the president would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us, time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action."

That's what Sen. Barack Obama said in 2007.

In 2011, what did he do?

He unilaterally authorized a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

So what gives?

Did Obama mean what he said in 2007?

Or has the Constitution changed between 2007 and now?

Or was Obama wrong in 2007?

Or is he wrong now?

Someone needs to put this question to him.

What does Barack Obama really believe about the proper role of the presidency under the Constitution with regard to use of the military?

I've never believed Obama cared a whit about the Constitution. I think he invokes the Constitution when it suits his immediate political agenda and disregards it when it doesn't. And I suggest to you his Libya policy is Exhibit A in making that case.

But I'll go further than that.

I don't trust Obama to use sound judgment in the use of the military under any circumstances whatsoever. If ever there were a presidency in need of oversight from Congress, this is it. He has no military experience. He does not have loyalty to the United States. His every action – foreign and domestic – seems to reflect a desire to bring America down, not lift it up. He has no sense of national security. No sense of propriety, no sense of principle.

He just goes with the flow.

The French and British ask him to bomb Libya with no particular objective in mind – he does it.

Not since Bill Clinton's tail wagged the dog to head off impeachment hearings has U.S. military force been used so cavalierly and without justification.

He's making Dennis Kucinich look like a statesman – and that's not easy.

This is a national scandal and a tragedy.

Military force should never be used as it is being used in Libya – without purpose, without defined objectives, without coherent strategy.

What is the goal?

Is it to topple Moammar Gadhafi? No, says Obama. It's a humanitarian mission. We're bombing Libya on a humanitarian mission – with little thought of actually toppling Gadhafi. Obama thinks he can straighten all this out in a few days – not weeks.

Good luck with that!

Nobody would like to see Gadhafi go more than me.

But this is not the way.

It's also important to give some thought to a replacement.

Obama hasn't.

It doesn't seem to matter to him. We've seen what happens when we show one Mideast dictator the door without concern about who comes in next.

Obama is making me embarrassed to be an American today.

God help all those precious young American men – and women – he is placing in harm's way.

This is shameful, tragic.

Where is it all leading? What is the game plan? Can anyone in this administration tell us? Can anyone in Congress tell us?

Why are Republicans being so accommodating?

Why are Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul the only voices of strong protest I hear from the Capitol?

Will some grown-up in Washington please stop this insanity now?



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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2011, 09:06:16 AM »
Go back to work OS---the rest rooms need to be cleaned.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2011, 09:37:06 AM »
..... and shoes need to be shined.


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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2011, 09:39:09 AM »
You ignorant SOB's.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2011, 09:43:08 AM »
No one is more ignorant than you.   You don't have a mind OR a brain --what you have is a VENTILOQUIST.  Instead of him having you run you mouth by putting his hand in your back , what he is doing is putting his hand up your ass.

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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2011, 09:50:05 AM »
France is taking the lead in Libya.  Special Forces are in Libya.  What will the American public do when one of our SF soldiers die in Libya?
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Re: Libyan bombing 'unconstitutional', Republicans warn Obama
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2011, 10:00:05 AM »
They won't do anything because most Americans are FAR removed from the military.  Most have not served and many won't join.  I guess they will keep on filling their brackets for the NAACP basketball tournament.  Harsh words but true. 

 

 

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