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A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« on: November 27, 2010, 08:32:42 AM »
http://www.news-record.com/content/2010/11/25/article/at_will_raise_admission_standards_in_2011

A&T will raise admission standards in 2011


Friday, November 26, 2010
(Updated Saturday, November 27 - 7:02 am)
By Jonnelle Davis
Staff Writer

GREENSBORO — N.C. A&T will increase its minimum admission standards in the fall of 2011 in preparation for more rigorous standards the UNC system plans to put in place.

The university will require in-state students to have at least a 2.5 grade-point average and an 800 SAT score, the minimum that will be required for admission to any UNC school in the fall of 2013.

Students with GPAs of 2.3 to 2.49 and SAT scores of 750 to 799 will be placed on a waiting list.

Decisions on their admission will be based on the university’s enrollment target for that year, said Lori Hunter, A&T’s interim associate vice chancellor for enrollment management.

The university is preparing its applicant pool for the UNC system’s changing standards, Hunter said.

In January 2008, the UNC Board of Governors adopted a set of admissions standards but chose to phase in the higher standards over several years to give students and high school guidance counselors adequate notice, said Joni Worthington, spokeswoman for the system.

The policy calls for a minimum 2.3 GPA, 750 SAT score and 16 ACT score for admission to UNC schools in fall 2011 and 2012.

Those standards increase to a 2.5 GPA, 800 SAT score and 17 ACT score effective in the fall of 2013 .

UNCG also will increase its admission standards next fall.

UNCG is recommending that freshmen applicants have at least a 900 SAT score.

Hunter said A&T’s fall 2010 class had an average SAT score of 894 and an average GPA of 3.04.

As the university implements the new standards, it’s also looking at ways to retain students, Hunter said.

One of the ideas being considered is adding more living and learning communities, where students live and learn together within or across their disciplines.

Administrators also have sought feedback from the Student Government Association, asking for suggestions for improving retention, she said.

Student leaders conducted a survey, and one of the recommendations that was made was that the university take a look at its student advising model, Hunter said.

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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 05:56:36 PM »
October 15, 2007

UNC Officials May Raise Admission Standards to Reduce Dropouts

Associated Press

CHAPEL HILL NC- Getting into a University of North Carolina school could get tougher.

Officials are considering raising the minimum admission standards to a 2.0 grade point average and 700 SAT score for all students beginning in fall 2009. The requirements could get even tighter by 2013 with a required 2.5 GPA and 800 SAT score.

Officials say the goal is to prevent dropouts by admitting only students who are prepared to succeed at a four-year college. Raising UNC standards also could lead to more students being denied admission and instead attending community colleges.

The UNC Board of Governors is considering the changes, which would mainly affect 6 campuses: UNC Pembroke, Elizabeth City State, Fayetteville State, N.C. A&T State, N.C. Central and Winston-Salem State universities.


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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 06:00:07 PM »
The UNC system's Board of Governors made it clear during their meeting that they want to tie funding for new students to tuition performance measures, particularly the 6-year graduation rates.

NCCU also hopes to increase its graduation and retention rates by raising admissions standards and admitting more students who are more academically prepared.

North Carolina Central University's new strategic plan calls for increasing the school's graduation rate by nearly 10 percent over the next five years.

The draft 2020 Strategic Plan, presented to the NCCU Board of Trustees, responds to what Chancellor Charlie Nelms said are "increasing expectations" from UNC system administrators to raise "retention and graduation rates, enroll better prepared students, conduct cutting edge research and stimulate the state's economic landscape."

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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 07:05:58 PM »
Many students with higher GPAs and SAT scores are still impacted by finances and thus these students still don't graduate on time.

This more than likely will lower North Carolina's black male enrollments at their HBCUs and then as their universities drop in enrollment so will their state funding and they'll drop faculty too.

If these black students go into North Carolina's community colleges for 2 years they then will more than likely not enroll into the public HBCUs but will go to colleges like UNC Wilmington, UNC Greensboro, UNC Charlotte, Appalachian State, East Carolina, NC State and UNC.

It's a great idea to make sure the students come in strong. But, it does not consider the many reasons students don't finish college on time.

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 07:14:07 PM »
I don't think many students are admitted at the minimum scores.  If they are admitted they cannot declare a major.

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2010, 07:35:44 PM »
Many students with higher GPAs and SAT scores are still impacted by finances and thus these students still don't graduate on time.

This more than likely will lower North Carolina's black male enrollments at their HBCUs and then as their universities drop in enrollment so will their state funding and they'll drop faculty too.

If these black students go into North Carolina's community colleges for 2 years they then will more than likely not enroll into the public HBCUs but will go to colleges like UNC Wilmington, UNC Greensboro, UNC Charlotte, Appalachian State, East Carolina, NC State and UNC.

It's a great idea to make sure the students come in strong. But, it does not consider the many reasons students don't finish college on time.


Oh well...

It is what it is. Don't agree with every detail of this decision but I am glad it is made. It was the best thing to do.

It is what it is.

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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2010, 07:36:28 PM »
I don't know if this will help our schools or not.  If enrollment falls, so does your money.  Maybe the UNC system want us to reach out to more none black students.  
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2010, 08:32:38 PM »
This is people avoiding the main issue at hand, -affordability. Most people drop out because they can't pay their bills. As mentioned, few students are admitted at the minimum requirements. If they really want to lower the drop rate, they  need to provide more scholarships or lower tuition. This is like building more jails to curve the crime rate. It sounds good when someone is running for office but is does not solve the problem at hand. 

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2010, 08:35:20 PM »
This is people avoiding the main issue at hand, -affordability. Most people drop out because they can't pay their bills. As mentioned, few students are admitted at the minimum requirements. If they really want to lower the drop rate, they  need to provide more scholarships or lower tuition. This is like building more jails to curve the crime rate. It sounds good when someone is running for office but is does not solve the problem at hand. 


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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2010, 10:09:49 PM »
The cost will never go down.  :no:

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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2010, 10:33:36 PM »
This is people avoiding the main issue at hand, -affordability. Most people drop out because they can't pay their bills. As mentioned, few students are admitted at the minimum requirements. If they really want to lower the drop rate, they  need to provide more scholarships or lower tuition. This is like building more jails to curve the crime rate. It sounds good when someone is running for office but is does not solve the problem at hand. 

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2010, 11:53:57 PM »
This is people avoiding the main issue at hand, -affordability. Most people drop out because they can't pay their bills. As mentioned, few students are admitted at the minimum requirements. If they really want to lower the drop rate, they  need to provide more scholarships or lower tuition. This is like building more jails to curve the crime rate. It sounds good when someone is running for office but is does not solve the problem at hand. 

Scholarships via the schools fund raising, ok. But dropping any cost of attendance/room & board/athletic fees/etc. won't and can't happen with budgets being cut left and right.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 04:49:30 AM »
This is people avoiding the main issue at hand, -affordability. Most people drop out because they can't pay their bills. As mentioned, few students are admitted at the minimum requirements. If they really want to lower the drop rate, they  need to provide more scholarships or lower tuition. This is like building more jails to curve the crime rate. It sounds good when someone is running for office but is does not solve the problem at hand. 

Scholarships via the schools fund raising, ok. But dropping any cost of attendance/room & board/athletic fees/etc. won't and can't happen with budgets being cut left and right.

Exactly.  We were just talking about this in our economics class.  A group of out-of-state students raised concerns about the rising tuition costs.  Our professor told us that a good way to try to either keep costs low or the percentage increase to be not as drastic, is by increasing the enrollment.  The more your enrollment increases, the more funding you recieve.  With many of our schools facing budget cuts, you would think that a lot of our schools would aggressively try to increase our enrollments to increase funding.   :shrug:

If you we want to increase the retention and graduation rates, especially among our male students, we need to implement the methods in which ECSU has done.  Not only do they have aggressive mentoring programs in place for their male students but they also stalk and hound the ones who left school for a semester or two by calling their houses to encourage and convince them to return to ECSU.

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 11:11:47 AM »
"The more your enrollment increases, the more funding you receive."

In theory yes that is the way it works. But when the state starts cutting back the amount it provides, it becomes a problem. This is happening in the UNC system. All campuses have a mandate to grow but the state is cutting back on funding. In order to preserve a certain level of instruction,  many campuses are now shrinking enrollment by raising standards. The colleges are incurring more expenses by increasing enrollment. You can see this clearly at the private HBCU. It's a hell of a situation but they don't have much choice. They have increased enrollment to increase revenue in order to meet the budget but they can't  invest in the infrastructure to support that increased enrollment. Go on any private HBCU and you will see, for example,  an English classes being held in a science lecture hall.
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Re: A&T will raise admission standards in 2011
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 12:19:22 PM »
We should not only have mentoring for our males, but we really need to put the pressure on parents to do what they need to do to help their kids become successful students. The days are long gone of dummies being allowed to go to college - even to play sports. So a word to the wise should be sufficient.

Keep telling y'all there is a reason why the APR and all that was instituted and these schools are going to stop wasting money on idiots - doesn't matter what color or nationality... :nod:


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