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Offline Jaimac

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Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« on: September 22, 2008, 07:50:15 PM »
Five weeks of SIAC football have been completed and there is a tie for the 2nd consecutive week.   :nod:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a tie breaker in the event there is a tie for the lead position after the last week of picks?   :shrug:

The last week of picks will be determined by D2 playoff success or the Pioneer Bowl, whichever is the latter.
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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2008, 12:22:48 PM »
Perhaps starting the first week in Oct., we need to pick winning team and score for one game of your choosing... :tiptoe:


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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 01:47:14 AM »
Which ever is last Pioneer or D2 playoffs,lets pick the total amount of points scored.

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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 03:36:28 PM »
Five weeks of SIAC football have been completed and there is a tie for the 2nd consecutive week.   :nod:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a tie breaker in the event there is a tie for the lead position after the last week of picks?   :shrug:

The last week of picks will be determined by D2 playoff success or the Pioneer Bowl, whichever is the latter.

As mentioned earlier, the following tie breakers in order:

1. Pick the winner.
2. Pick the total number of points scored.
3. Pick the total number of yards gained by the winner.
4. Any other stat you like  :)

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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 08:00:53 PM »

As mentioned earlier, the following tie breakers in order:

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2. Pick the total number of points scored......


The tie breaker will follow total points scenario.

In the event of a tie, the cumulative points scored by the teams selected each week by those tied for the winning spot.
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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 06:32:13 PM »

As mentioned earlier, the following tie breakers in order:

...........
2. Pick the total number of points scored......


The tie breaker will follow total points scenario.

In the event of a tie, the cumulative points scored by the teams selected each week by those tied for the winning spot.


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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2008, 07:35:31 PM »
1025,


My thoughts are adding the total number of points scored by the winning teams selected by those tied for the lead position.

Begin with week #1, the final score of the teams picked and add them cumulatively throughout the season.

For example, if you were a on of those tied:

Week One - Valdosta ST:  56 points

Week Two - Morehouse:   3 points
                    FVS:               24 points
                    Albany ST       27 points
                    KY State         16 points
                    Miles               12 points


At that point, you would have a total of 138 points.  Continue to add the final points scored by the teams selected each week through the last game of the 2008 season.
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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 12:08:21 PM »
Jaimac,

I would like to propose a different tie breaker procedure for your consideration if you don't mind.

My proposal would base the tie breaker on the prowess of the individual posters who are in a winning position versus basing it on the cumulative points scored by the winning teams throughout the year (something that is totally outside of the poster's control)

I propose this:

Going into the final game of the season, have the posters who are tied for the lead, and those who are one game behind the lead, not only pick the winner of the game, but also the margin of victory.  To avoid further ties, a condition would be that no poster could pick the same winner by the same margin of victory.

After the last game:

First consider the picks for each poster (without considering victory margin).  If there is still an overall tie, then consider the winning pick and margin of victory for each of the tied posters.  Whoever is closest to the actual margin of victory is the winner.  Since each poster would have a different margin of victory, there could not be a further tie.

For example:

Say the last game is the Pioneer Bowl featuring

Team A vs. Team B

Going into this game, 2 posters are tied for the lead with a record of 56-10, and 3 posters are one game behind with records of 55-11.

All remaining posters would be out of contention for the championship.

The 5 posters would then pick the winner and the margin of victory as such:

Poster 1 (record 56-10): Team B by 5
Poster 2 (record 56-10): Team B by 3
Poster 3 (record 55-11): Team A by 14
Poster 4 (record 55-11): Team A by 7
Poster 5 (record 55-11): Team A by 17

The actual score of the Pioneer Bowl is:

Team A - 17
Team B - 10

First considering the winning picks the final records are:

Poster 1 (Picked team B to win) at 56-11
Poster 2 (Picked team B to win) at 56 -11
Poster 3 (Picked Team A to win) at 56 - 11
Poster 4 (Picked Team A to win) at 56 - 11
Poster 5 (Picked Team A to win) at 56 - 11

Now all 5 posters are tied!

Now consider the winning pick and margin of victory:

Posters 1 and 2 are eliminated because they picked Team B who lost!

Posters 3, 4, and 5 are in contention because they picked Team A who won!

Poster 3 Margin of victory: 14
Poster 4 Margin of victory: 7
Poster 5 Margin of victory: 17

The actual Margin of victory was 7 points

Poster 4 wins the championship because they are the closest to the Actual Margin of victory (0 points)

I hope that isn't too complicated.  I just think that this tie-breaking procedure allows you to break the tie according to the ability of the posters to pick the games, instead of something the poster can't control (the total points the teams they picked scored throughout the season). 


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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 09:23:38 AM »
I don't know......the process needs to be simple as possible. 

IMO, using margin of victory as you have suggested, would have have meant that posters needed to have picked point spreads over the entire season. 

Maybe I do not have a full understanding of your suggestion.   :shrug:  I will need to read it more carefully when I have more time to think about it.
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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 09:43:57 AM »
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Re: Tie breaker scenario ??????????
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 11:57:41 PM »
Jaimac,

It's not that hard.  Think of it as a one game playoff.  Those in contention would have to  to pick a margin of victory for one game.

It would cut down on the analysis that you would have to do because you would only be considering those posters who are either tied for the lead or are one game behind going into the last game of the year.

Just think about it, and if you have any questions, just hit me with a PM.


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It was nice meeting you at the CCC in Indy.

 

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