[Ramese98]

Ramese98, what solutions do you propose D1 HBCUs do to improve their lot?

do a top to bottom feasibility study to see where ALL programs are and not just football. When we talk athletics we normally just focus on football, because of the revenue associated with it. However, you have to look at the overall Athletic landscape. Are we serving every student athlete as we should, do we have the staff in place, what are our expenditures vs revenue (are we meeting, exceeding, or robbing peter to pay  paul and how long have we been on this cycle), do a mirror look at a comparable school whether it be an HBCU or PWI and see what they are doing vs what you are doing, are we giving our fans what they deserve, simply is what we doing working...

[j1908]

I totally disagree with this article; some valid points were made in the article, and they stated some facts that many have glossed over. The article itself, was Wheatley's attempt to get into the Deion Sanders vs HBCU conversation, whereas everyone who DID NOT ATTEND is now an HBCU EXPERT! I will come back to that point.

Thank you. I didn't even attempt to read the article, when I found out he attended a PWI. Them folks are always in our business.

[Ramese98]

I totally disagree with this article; some valid points were made in the article, and they stated some facts that many have glossed over. The article itself, was Wheatley's attempt to get into the Deion Sanders vs HBCU conversation, whereas everyone who DID NOT ATTEND is now an HBCU EXPERT! I will come back to that point.

Thank you. I didn't even attempt to read the article, when I found out he attended a PWI. Them folks are always in our business.

LMAO, I was actually waiting for you to get him on that point. One thing about j1908, you going let them have it coming out the side of their neck talking about HBCUs and did not attend. That is a non-starter for you.

[j1908]

^^^Rames. They get on my last nerve. Talking about HBCU this and that. Especially Tinky Winky Roland. I don't even know, how they let his behind in the HBCU community.

[SSUTigerFan]

HBCU presidents outside of Grambling dont understand athleticw.  They can't stand a coach being the big man on cqmpus
  He also feels that he should have first choice of pudding.  Whew!

[y04185]

Ramese98, what solutions do you propose D1 HBCUs do to improve their lot?

do a top to bottom feasibility study to see where ALL programs are and not just football. When we talk athletics we normally just focus on football, because of the revenue associated with it. However, you have to look at the overall Athletic landscape. Are we serving every student athlete as we should, do we have the staff in place, what are our expenditures vs revenue (are we meeting, exceeding, or robbing peter to pay  paul and how long have we been on this cycle), do a mirror look at a comparable school whether it be an HBCU or PWI and see what they are doing vs what you are doing, are we giving our fans what they deserve, simply is what we doing working...

Thanks for your response.

HBCUs, especially at the D1 level, have to put more people in Athletic fund raising.  When you look at Old Dominion vs Norfolk State the number of people raising money for athletics is mind blowing.  Fifteen years ago ODU didn't have football.  Now in less than ten years they have an FBS football team.  ODU has seven people in their athletic foundation.  NSU doesn't have anyone I could identify on their website raising money.  That makes a big difference. 

[Cats4ever]

Georgia Southern has always been the backup school to UGA/GA TECH, so their surge in populations has been steady

The culture at GA Southern is totally against being a backup school for UGA/GA Tech. Southern Poly Tech was the backup school for GA Tech.
Here is the story of how GA Southern football started.

One hundred and thirty-four "enthusiastic non-athletes" turned out for football tryouts on the campus tennis courts, ready to represent Georgia Southern, ready to play for Erk. "All they had was desire," Russell commented, finding something positive in any and all situations. "When you don't have the best of everything, make the best of everything you have," Russell often said.

With a makeshift coaching staff, a mobile home for an office and equipment scavenged from nearby schools, Georgia Southern started football practice. Its first scrimmage was just five months after Russell was named head coach, with players in mismatched helmets and jerseys and hand-me-down pads. Playing the first two seasons as a club team, the Eagles matched up against the Florida State junior varsity, the Fort Benning Doughboys and a semi-pro team of police officers from Jacksonville, Fla. Georgia Southern would take to highways to play against anyone, anywhere.

Russell would have not only have to build the program, he'd have to build support for program. A gift for storytelling, he'd create traditions and sayings, (GATA, Runts have to Try Harder), building young men into champions and building a football stadium on a piece of land where weeds towered above the heads of his players. Russell would spend many more nights driving the back roads of South Georgia, recruiting athletes overlooked by the powerhouse programs and selling a vision of Eagle Football to anyone who would listen.

https://gseagles.com/news/2014/7/23/FB_0723142959.aspx

[Cats4ever]

One thing we can do is to reach out to everyone for donations to build the programs. I was reading the story about GA Southern and how everyone wanted a part of the team because of Coach Russell.

Now, this is the difference between us and PWIs, they hire coaches who can help raise funds for the program. They had people donating $20 to the program for scholarships.  I was on social media Saturday where people were saying black athletes sold out to PWIs. 

I said PWIs offered more money.  So, I asked everyone who wanted change; to starting donating $1 to every HBCU.  I offered to start a GO Fund Me.