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Quote from: skegeeu97 on November 22, 2022, 11:24:28 AMWith FAMU's schedule this year, the only way they get in the playoffs is a win over Jackson State or North Carolina. A competitive defeat to the Tar Heels (at least the first half) was not going to be enough to impress the committee. In future years, FAMU can schedule their 3 non-conference games with at 2 teams from other FCS conferences and the third can be either vs. a DII HBCU or an FBS team.University of Delaware only got admitted because of the perceived strength of the Colonial Athletic Association over the SWAC and Delaware's history in the playoffs (a couple of National Titles & Runner Up finishes). If their win over FBS Navy (4-7) was considered, the committee would weigh that more favorably than FAMU's loss to UNC.I would add that being associated with the CAA got Delaware in the door. But when it comes to last few teams, resumes are compared directly. The first four out were Austin Peay, Chattanooga, FAMU, and Rhode Island.Delaware beat Rhode Island and has a FBS win. None of the other bubble teams can claim a FBS win.
With FAMU's schedule this year, the only way they get in the playoffs is a win over Jackson State or North Carolina. A competitive defeat to the Tar Heels (at least the first half) was not going to be enough to impress the committee. In future years, FAMU can schedule their 3 non-conference games with at 2 teams from other FCS conferences and the third can be either vs. a DII HBCU or an FBS team.University of Delaware only got admitted because of the perceived strength of the Colonial Athletic Association over the SWAC and Delaware's history in the playoffs (a couple of National Titles & Runner Up finishes). If their win over FBS Navy (4-7) was considered, the committee would weigh that more favorably than FAMU's loss to UNC.
Wile^^^I’ve got an even more SALIENT question. Of what interest is ANY of this to NCCU?
My shot at it:AQ-11: SDSU, Sacramento State, St Francis, Gardner-Webb, Holy Cross, Samford, EKU, Southeastern Louisiana, Davidson, Southeast Missouri St., William & Mary, At-large: Montana State, North Dakota State, University of Incarnate Word, Weber State, Furman, New Hampshire, Richmond, Elon, UC-Davis, North Dakota, Tennessee-Martin, Fordham, MercerLast Four In: Mercer, North Dakota, Tennessee Martin, UC-DavisFirst Four Out: Idaho, Delaware, Chattanooga, MontanaNext Four: Austin Peay, Florida A&M, Youngstown St, Rhode IslandUC-Davis @ North Dakota to #1 Sacramento StateMercer @ Southeastern Louisiana to #8 Incarnate WordSoutheast Missouri @ UT-Martin to #4 North Dakota StateDavidson @ Elon to #5 SamfordGardner Webb @ Furman to #2 South Dakota StateSaint Francis @ Richmond to #7 William and MaryEastern Kentucky @ Weber State to #3 Montana State New Hampshire @Fordham to #6 Holy Cross
Quote from: Strike79 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:45 AMWile^^^I’ve got an even more SALIENT question. Of what interest is ANY of this to NCCU? If NCCU were not in the Celebration Bowl, we would have received an invite to the playoffs as an at-large. Yes we played a D2 school and a non-NCAA school. But we also went 3-1 against OOC FCS schools to include a conference champion and a playoff contender. As far as my credentials. . I vote in the AGS poll. I follow FCS football all year and have been following for over a decade. Here were my predictions for playoff selections:QuoteMy shot at it:AQ-11: SDSU, Sacramento State, St Francis, Gardner-Webb, Holy Cross, Samford, EKU, Southeastern Louisiana, Davidson, Southeast Missouri St., William & Mary, At-large: Montana State, North Dakota State, University of Incarnate Word, Weber State, Furman, New Hampshire, Richmond, Elon, UC-Davis, North Dakota, Tennessee-Martin, Fordham, MercerLast Four In: Mercer, North Dakota, Tennessee Martin, UC-DavisFirst Four Out: Idaho, Delaware, Chattanooga, MontanaNext Four: Austin Peay, Florida A&M, Youngstown St, Rhode IslandUC-Davis @ North Dakota to #1 Sacramento StateMercer @ Southeastern Louisiana to #8 Incarnate WordSoutheast Missouri @ UT-Martin to #4 North Dakota StateDavidson @ Elon to #5 SamfordGardner Webb @ Furman to #2 South Dakota StateSaint Francis @ Richmond to #7 William and MaryEastern Kentucky @ Weber State to #3 Montana State New Hampshire @Fordham to #6 Holy CrossI correctly predicted 10 of the 13 at-larges, but in my next four out; you see the three at-larges that I missed. My next four out has three of the four teams that the committee claimed were in their first four out. Back to your original question; perhaps this doesn't concern NCCU. But I'm speaking for myself and no one else. Finally, the persecution complex is tiring. . . which is why I posted. There is no grand conspiracy against FAMU.
Quote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.
Quote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board.
……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???
Quote from: WileECoyote06 on November 23, 2022, 09:19:28 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:45 AMWile^^^I’ve got an even more SALIENT question. Of what interest is ANY of this to NCCU? If NCCU were not in the Celebration Bowl, we would have received an invite to the playoffs as an at-large. Yes we played a D2 school and a non-NCAA school. But we also went 3-1 against OOC FCS schools to include a conference champion and a playoff contender. As far as my credentials. . I vote in the AGS poll. I follow FCS football all year and have been following for over a decade. Here were my predictions for playoff selections:QuoteMy shot at it:AQ-11: SDSU, Sacramento State, St Francis, Gardner-Webb, Holy Cross, Samford, EKU, Southeastern Louisiana, Davidson, Southeast Missouri St., William & Mary, At-large: Montana State, North Dakota State, University of Incarnate Word, Weber State, Furman, New Hampshire, Richmond, Elon, UC-Davis, North Dakota, Tennessee-Martin, Fordham, MercerLast Four In: Mercer, North Dakota, Tennessee Martin, UC-DavisFirst Four Out: Idaho, Delaware, Chattanooga, MontanaNext Four: Austin Peay, Florida A&M, Youngstown St, Rhode IslandUC-Davis @ North Dakota to #1 Sacramento StateMercer @ Southeastern Louisiana to #8 Incarnate WordSoutheast Missouri @ UT-Martin to #4 North Dakota StateDavidson @ Elon to #5 SamfordGardner Webb @ Furman to #2 South Dakota StateSaint Francis @ Richmond to #7 William and MaryEastern Kentucky @ Weber State to #3 Montana State New Hampshire @Fordham to #6 Holy CrossI correctly predicted 10 of the 13 at-larges, but in my next four out; you see the three at-larges that I missed. My next four out has three of the four teams that the committee claimed were in their first four out. Back to your original question; perhaps this doesn't concern NCCU. But I'm speaking for myself and no one else. Finally, the persecution complex is tiring. . . which is why I posted. There is no grand conspiracy against FAMU. I wish FAMU would have scheduled another FCS as opposed to D2 Albany State.
Quote from: DRUMMA1 on November 22, 2022, 08:48:54 PM………………………………………………………………….,#2. Jackson State is contractually bound to the SWAC Championship Game and ultimately the Celebration Bowl. Even if we weren't, we nor any other school in the SWAC has given a fat fugg about the playoffs. We're Black-Black around these parts and will gladly support our classics over an event you get pimped by the NCAA. Yall claimed your fans were subjected to racism in Hammond, LA last year yet still want to be apart of that system...even bidding to host a game where the NCAA takes 70% of your gate revenue. …….well, here you have it, folks. More MINDLESS rant from Jackson State’s sole representative on the board, talking ALOT and saying very little substantively. Wtf is the origin or definition of the term, “Black-Black”? I guess that’s more of that tic-tock/Worldstar foolishness.So the consensus best HBCU FCS school in the land is “contractually bound” to play in the SCG and, ultimately, the Celebration Bowl. But even if these contractual constraints didn’t exist, Jackson State wouldn’t participate in the playoffs anyway because, well, we’re “Black-Black” in Mississippi.One word comes to mind…..COWARD. Another word comes to mind…….FRAUD.And the silliness continues………………,
………………………………………………………………….,#2. Jackson State is contractually bound to the SWAC Championship Game and ultimately the Celebration Bowl. Even if we weren't, we nor any other school in the SWAC has given a fat fugg about the playoffs. We're Black-Black around these parts and will gladly support our classics over an event you get pimped by the NCAA. Yall claimed your fans were subjected to racism in Hammond, LA last year yet still want to be apart of that system...even bidding to host a game where the NCAA takes 70% of your gate revenue.
If you sced say you sced.
Quote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.FAMU hasn't played against "big boys" from the FCS since 2016 (Coastal Carolina, a program that is now in the FBS). So whose really hiding?
Quote from: Nomenclature on November 23, 2022, 12:02:31 PMQuote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.FAMU hasn't played against "big boys" from the FCS since 2016 (Coastal Carolina, a program that is now in the FBS). So whose really hiding? Exactly. They are known for schedule D2 HBCUs and FBS "slut me out for a check" games.
Quote from: DRUMMA1 on November 23, 2022, 12:06:31 PMQuote from: Nomenclature on November 23, 2022, 12:02:31 PMQuote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.FAMU hasn't played against "big boys" from the FCS since 2016 (Coastal Carolina, a program that is now in the FBS). So whose really hiding? Exactly. They are known for schedule D2 HBCUs and FBS "slut me out for a check" games. Looking at their schedule over the past 8-9 years, there has been some seasons where they've scheduled a beatdown game and TWO D2 schools. Like, it was just vibes. No thought at all.lol
Quote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.Coach Prime also stated we HBCUs consistently get beat in the trenches (OL) and wants to have depth at that position before we schedule those teams so we can actually beat them. Yall schedule these PWIs just to schedule them with no real game plan or depth.
Quote from: DRUMMA1 on November 23, 2022, 11:59:14 AMQuote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.Coach Prime also stated we HBCUs consistently get beat in the trenches (OL) and wants to have depth at that position before we schedule those teams so we can actually beat them. Yall schedule these PWIs just to schedule them with no real game plan or depth.In the last 10 years WSSU has played and beaten more national powers than any school in HBCU history. In fact, both HBCU DII conferences play national powers on yearly bases, and win.Everything you just said is what schools say when they can't compete or in hiding. You are ranked in the top ten and have some of the best talent in the nation. What else do you need? Deion is wanting guaranteed wins so he only plays schools he knows he can beat. He averages 43,000 fans a game and the best facilities and coaches but yet he's scared. Maybe he doesn't want to be out coached. But even Steve Wonder can see he's hiding. Playing schools with 2,000 students with facilities worse than most Texas high schools... not God like. We've been worshiping ya'll, so now do something. Play God.
Quote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 03:48:36 PMQuote from: DRUMMA1 on November 23, 2022, 11:59:14 AMQuote from: Ram55 on November 23, 2022, 08:54:56 AMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 08:15:22 PMQuote from: Strike79 on November 22, 2022, 04:08:58 PM……………………………………………………………………….,Not sure about Div 2, but there is only ONE HBCU FCS school which has a DOCUMENTED history of winning playoff games. And that’s the school located on the highest of seven hills in Tallahassee.So if THIS is the criterion which weighs most heavily with the selection committee, the Rattlers should be in almost every year…………:::RIGHT???…………I thought it might be helpful to the UNBIASED observer of this thread if I reposted what I stated earlier. Beyond all of the MINDLESS DRIVEL which too often drives the discussion on this board, FAMU’s playoff history should have been accorded some deference in the playoffs selection process.But, hey, FAMU getting screwed? Well, that’s perfectly fine for the school most love to hate on this board. Anyway, I’ve said enough and, quite frankly, am sounding redundant.So, FAMU is out of the playoffs, Jackson State “conveniently” hides behind SCG and Celebration Bowl to AVOID being tested by some of the “traditional” FCS powers, and it appears that’s just fine by folks who opine on this board. You are right about Jackson State. They are hiding from the big boys. Deion keep making excuses while beating up on SWAC schools with less talent and resources. I love what he is doing for HBCUs, but he needs to show the world what he has or stop talking and taking bows. If he wants to be our God, then do some "God like" things like beating good schools on his level.Coach Prime also stated we HBCUs consistently get beat in the trenches (OL) and wants to have depth at that position before we schedule those teams so we can actually beat them. Yall schedule these PWIs just to schedule them with no real game plan or depth.In the last 10 years WSSU has played and beaten more national powers than any school in HBCU history. In fact, both HBCU DII conferences play national powers on yearly bases, and win.Everything you just said is what schools say when they can't compete or in hiding. You are ranked in the top ten and have some of the best talent in the nation. What else do you need? Deion is wanting guaranteed wins so he only plays schools he knows he can beat. He averages 43,000 fans a game and the best facilities and coaches but yet he's scared. Maybe he doesn't want to be out coached. But even Steve Wonder can see he's hiding. Playing schools with 2,000 students with facilities worse than most Texas high schools... not God like. We've been worshiping ya'll, so now do something. Play God.WSSU had that success in 2012 under Maynor and I applaud you all. We do not have the same mission as WSSU or D2 schools.JSU is still building a solid program. IMO, there is no point in playing top FCS teams if our goal is the Celebration Bowl. JSU is an underfunded HBCU in the poorest state in the union so playing PWIs (IMO), whether it be on the road or at home, does not serve us well, financially. I don't have a problem scheduling a ranked PWI for Homecoming because our attendance will be fine but playing NDSU just to say we played/beat them is asinine! We don't care about white validation...wanna know why? Because we already have the #1 recruiting class, the #1 fanbase and are ranked in the Top 5 WITHOUT scheduling PWIs. Let Jackson State continue to reinvent what it means to be successful. Let us continue to chase the bag. We are showing Black America what can happen when you invest in/support your own. JSU doesn't need PWIs to be relevant, competitive or for validation; they need us.