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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2022, 11:13:37 AM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment
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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2022, 11:44:24 AM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     

CAA shouldn’t even be an option for the amount of money they would have to spend in order to be remotely competitive. IF they are planning a move it’s MEAC, BS, or maybe ASUN.

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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2022, 11:53:56 AM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment

I doubt the CAA would take to either, but I was making the point that there are other options out there...scenarios that the admins at VSU might be weighing. We don't know who they talking to...what their end game is, or what they hope to achieve.

To say their only option to move up is the MEAC might be short sighted. VSU could have moved up years ago...and joined the MEAC when Hampton...Norfolk...NCCU...or WSSU left the CIAA, but they didn't. VSU is building up, building out, and is in no rush. It will be very interesting to see what they do in the end.

Adding sports they didn't have to add...particularly women's sport's needed to offset in scholarship increases for football is all to telling.

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« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2022, 01:11:51 PM »
As more students are choosing HBCUs over PWIs, more sports have to be offered. Be it club teams or NCAA.

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« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2022, 01:18:50 PM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment

I doubt the CAA would take to either, but I was making the point that there are other options out there...scenarios that the admins at VSU might be weighing. We don't know who they talking to...what their end game is, or what they hope to achieve.

To say their only option to move up is the MEAC might be short sighted. VSU could have moved up years ago...and joined the MEAC when Hampton...Norfolk...NCCU...or WSSU left the CIAA, but they didn't. VSU is building up, building out, and is in no rush. It will be very interesting to see what they do in the end.

Adding sports they didn't have to add...particularly women's sport's needed to offset in scholarship increases for football is all to telling.
It's nothing to doubt. That's a statement of fact by the CAA and it ruling body for any school that want to join. So no there's no other option. 

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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2022, 01:25:47 PM »
As more students are choosing HBCUs over PWIs, more sports have to be offered. Be it club teams or NCAA.

I can see many schools adding some of the more popular sports like soccer and lacrosse, but there's still plenty of room for the "full" funding of our existing programs as well. That said, for the sake of conversation...what sports are the HBCU conferences looking to add?

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« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2022, 01:30:02 PM »
Any VSU fans got renderings of the new soccer\lacrosse field?

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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2022, 08:00:47 PM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment

I doubt the CAA would take to either, but I was making the point that there are other options out there...scenarios that the admins at VSU might be weighing. We don't know who they talking to...what their end game is, or what they hope to achieve.

To say their only option to move up is the MEAC might be short sighted. VSU could have moved up years ago...and joined the MEAC when Hampton...Norfolk...NCCU...or WSSU left the CIAA, but they didn't. VSU is building up, building out, and is in no rush. It will be very interesting to see what they do in the end.

Adding sports they didn't have to add...particularly women's sport's needed to offset in scholarship increases for football is all to telling.

Dude,they are already in their end game. They are where they want to be. Just because ya'll want white masters doesn't mean everyone does. VSU probably added those sports for Title 9 reasons, or they simply was ask to appease their white students. After all, VSU is State supported. They can't fully fund the football team, so why add sports unless they were forced to. It's not like they are a national power. Who adds a room when they can't furnished what they have?

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« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2022, 08:39:24 PM »
Great additions by VSU,but my question is this?Why are our schools so late on adding women's soccer? That sport is a no brainer. :shrug:
My guess is because it's a non-revenue sport and they are in compliance with Title 9 with the sports they have.  :shrug: I am also inclined to believe that VSU is posturing for a move-up.
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Re: Virginia State University Adds Three New Athletic Teams
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2022, 12:21:56 AM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment

I doubt the CAA would take to either, but I was making the point that there are other options out there...scenarios that the admins at VSU might be weighing. We don't know who they talking to...what their end game is, or what they hope to achieve.

To say their only option to move up is the MEAC might be short sighted. VSU could have moved up years ago...and joined the MEAC when Hampton...Norfolk...NCCU...or WSSU left the CIAA, but they didn't. VSU is building up, building out, and is in no rush. It will be very interesting to see what they do in the end.

Adding sports they didn't have to add...particularly women's sport's needed to offset in scholarship increases for football is all to telling.

Dude,they are already in their end game. They are where they want to be. Just because ya'll want white masters doesn't mean everyone does. VSU probably added those sports for Title 9 reasons, or they simply was ask to appease their white students. After all, VSU is State supported. They can't fully fund the football team, so why add sports unless they were forced to. It's not like they are a national power. Who adds a room when they can't furnished what they have?

1) I know plenty fellow WSSU alumni who have children who are playing soccer. Several of whom took note of VSU’s new addition.

2) They likely won’t be giving full scholarships so the student-athletes will have to pay some level of tuition, which is good for the bottom line. Astute move by VSU, I wish their southern neighbors would take note.

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« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2022, 11:35:03 AM »
There are other D-2 conferences with women’s soccer, men and women’s lacrosse, that they may join for their new sports.
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2022, 09:04:00 PM »
I wish them much luck and success. :popcorn:
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« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2022, 12:52:45 AM »
Any VSU fans got renderings of the new soccer\lacrosse field?

Tomorrow, I will see what I can find. VSU is making some major changing to its sports facilities. Today a new high-tech scoreboard was put up at our softball, later this week, the school will begin the process of installing turf at our football stadium. The soccer field is located right next to our Mutl-Purpose center and will also be turf.
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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2022, 12:01:58 PM »
It sounds like new membership for the MEAC.  How many HBCUs DII schools have soccer???

This is great for VSU....but the MEAC doesn't have soccer, or Men's/Women's lacrosse. Guess they will have to do like Howard and a couple others and have those teams play in other leagues for the sports the MEAC doesn't sponsor.

Good to see VSU investing in it's programs.

What makes yall think VSU is adding these sports programs for a possible move to the MEAC, especially when you consider that the MEAC as a whole does not offer soccer or men's women's lacrosse? They might have some other conference in their crosshairs,,,,,,,,
Why do you think they would go to Division one Conference that they have no history or relationship with as a start up fcs?

You never know...D1 conferences are positioning themselves for strength, stability, and cost reduction. The same things that make VSU a prize for the MEAC would also make VSU a good add for any conference with a mid eastern footprint. I see them joining the MEAC with their arch rival NSU...but would the admins be open to an offer from a conference like the CAA in their southern division...  :shrug: ...  then VSU would get a baked in long time rival in a conference game with Hampton, an old CIAA foe in a conference game with NCA&T ...and big instate games against conference foes William & Mary and Richmond.

Then add to that, they can still play their arch rival NSU and any other HBCUs that want to play (NCCU, Howard, Morgan, SCSU) as OOC games.

Plus a conference like the CAA offer all their current sports and the new ones they just added. IJS, VSU is probably weighing all options as they consider this big move.     
Dude the  CAA isn't taking in any D2 start up. Hell the only reason they took you guys after years of being ignored is because of the situation force them too. If they were to take one, you can bet your house it won't be an hbcu with only a $56mil endowment

I doubt the CAA would take to either, but I was making the point that there are other options out there...scenarios that the admins at VSU might be weighing. We don't know who they talking to...what their end game is, or what they hope to achieve.

To say their only option to move up is the MEAC might be short sighted. VSU could have moved up years ago...and joined the MEAC when Hampton...Norfolk...NCCU...or WSSU left the CIAA, but they didn't. VSU is building up, building out, and is in no rush. It will be very interesting to see what they do in the end.

Adding sports they didn't have to add...particularly women's sport's needed to offset in scholarship increases for football is all to telling.

Dude,they are already in their end game. They are where they want to be. Just because ya'll want white masters doesn't mean everyone does. VSU probably added those sports for Title 9 reasons, or they simply was ask to appease their white students. After all, VSU is State supported. They can't fully fund the football team, so why add sports unless they were forced to. It's not like they are a national power. Who adds a room when they can't furnished what they have?

So, was VSU fulfilling the 36 scholarship max for D2 football prior to adding the additional sports, or not? Because, if VSU was doing the 36 max before adding more sports, then the additional sports are interesting, indeed.
And, will these extra sports also be scholarship driven?
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