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NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« on: June 10, 2021, 02:33:57 PM »
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BREAKING: A proposal under consideration would expand the College Football Playoff from four to 12 teams, with six spots reserved for the highest-ranked conference champions.

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2021, 02:41:42 PM »
A blind man could have seen this coming

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2021, 03:02:55 PM »
Sooooooooo, let me break this down
1-2 Big 10’s
2-3 SEC’s
1-2 Big XII’s
1-2 Pac 12’s
1-2 ACC’s

So in reality, more peanut butter and cheddar to be spread amongst the P5 with maybe 1-2 slots for non P5’s.



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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2021, 03:09:18 PM »
Sooooooooo, let me break this down
1-2 Big 10’s
2-3 SEC’s
1-2 Big XII’s
1-2 Pac 12’s
1-2 ACC’s

So in reality, more peanut butter and cheddar to be spread amongst the P5 with maybe 1-2 slots for non P5’s.

Yep pretty much.  Looking at last year's standings at the end of the regular season it looks like Cincy and Coastal Carolina would have both gotten in.  Pac 12 wouldn't have had a representative.

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2021, 03:16:33 PM »
Sooooooooo, let me break this down
1-2 Big 10’s
2-3 SEC’s
1-2 Big XII’s
1-2 Pac 12’s
1-2 ACC’s

So in reality, more peanut butter and cheddar to be spread amongst the P5 with maybe 1-2 slots for non P5’s.

Yep pretty much.  Looking at last year's standings at the end of the regular season it looks like Cincy and Coastal Carolina would have both gotten in.  Pac 12 wouldn't have had a representative.

Keep in mind they were under pressure to rank Cincy and Coastal above some P5’s. They no longer have to do that now with a 12 team playoff.



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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2021, 03:16:47 PM »
Sooooooooo, let me break this down
1-2 Big 10’s
2-3 SEC’s
1-2 Big XII’s
1-2 Pac 12’s
1-2 ACC’s

So in reality, more peanut butter and cheddar to be spread amongst the P5 with maybe 1-2 slots for non P5’s.
Shidd I say at least 4 SEC. The two divisional winners and the two that are second behind them
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2021, 04:28:36 PM »
Sooooooooo, let me break this down
1-2 Big 10’s
2-3 SEC’s
1-2 Big XII’s
1-2 Pac 12’s
1-2 ACC’s

So in reality, more peanut butter and cheddar to be spread amongst the P5 with maybe 1-2 slots for non P5’s.

Yep pretty much.  Looking at last year's standings at the end of the regular season it looks like Cincy and Coastal Carolina would have both gotten in.  Pac 12 wouldn't have had a representative.

perhaps, but ya gotta remember that last season was an "anomaly" due to covid.  at the rate we're now going, "all schools" will compete this fall and thereafter.  so i don't see schools like coastal carolina being as highly ranked going forward...

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2021, 04:55:43 PM »
you missed that little word six (6). So one of the Group of 5 Champions is also included

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2021, 05:23:12 PM »
I looked at the final Top 25 from last year. I took out the six champions and ranked them then took the next six in the ranking and the results is more interesting than I first thought. (AP ranking in parent.)

1. Alabama (1) vs. 12. Coastal Carolina (9)
2. Ohio State (3) vs. 11. Indiana (7)
3. Clemson (2) vs. 10. BYU (13)
4. Oklahoma (9) vs. 9. Northwestern (15)
5. Cincinnati (6) vs. 8. Iowa State (12)
6. USC (21) vs. 7. TAMU (5)


https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/01/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-rankings-2020-final
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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2021, 05:41:58 PM »
I looked at the final Top 25 from last year. I took out the six champions and ranked them then took the next six in the AP ranking and the results is more interesting than I first thought.

1. Alabama (1) vs. 12. Coastal Carolina (9)
2. Ohio State (3) vs. 11. Indiana (7)
3. Clemson (2) vs. 10. BYU (13)
4. Oklahoma (9) vs. 9. Northwestern (15)
5. Cincinnati (6) vs. 8. Iowa State (12)
6. USC (21) vs. 7. TAMU (5)


https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/01/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-rankings-2020-final

like i said, last season was an “anomaly” due to covid.  don’t expect a  near repeat of those rankings in the coming years.  last season you had teams “opting out”, players “opting out”, and programs put on “pause”.  hardly a “typical” football season.

to me, all school year 2020-21 football results should come with an “asterick” attached to it due to covid...

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2021, 06:04:20 PM »
I looked at the final Top 25 from last year. I took out the six champions and ranked them then took the next six in the ranking and the results is more interesting than I first thought. (AP ranking in parent.)

1. Alabama (1) vs. 12. Coastal Carolina (9)
2. Ohio State (3) vs. 11. Indiana (7)
3. Clemson (2) vs. 10. BYU (13)
4. Oklahoma (9) vs. 9. Northwestern (15)
5. Cincinnati (6) vs. 8. Iowa State (12)
6. USC (21) vs. 7. TAMU (5)


https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/01/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-rankings-2020-final

From what I was reading the Top 4 teams get a bye, so it should be 5-12 on the matchup charts for the first week.  Also, you would need to look at the polls after the conference championship week to get a better picture, not the final polls. 

Oregon won the Pac 12 not USC, but either way, the Pac 12 champ wasn't one of the Top 6 rated conference champs.

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2021, 06:10:28 PM »
I looked at the final Top 25 from last year. I took out the six champions and ranked them then took the next six in the AP ranking and the results is more interesting than I first thought.

1. Alabama (1) vs. 12. Coastal Carolina (9)
2. Ohio State (3) vs. 11. Indiana (7)
3. Clemson (2) vs. 10. BYU (13)
4. Oklahoma (9) vs. 9. Northwestern (15)
5. Cincinnati (6) vs. 8. Iowa State (12)
6. USC (21) vs. 7. TAMU (5)


https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/01/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-rankings-2020-final

like i said, last season was an “anomaly” due to covid.  don’t expect a  near repeat of those rankings in the coming years.  last season you had teams “opting out”, players “opting out”, and programs put on “pause”.  hardly a “typical” football season.

to me, all school year 2020-21 football results should come with an “asterick” attached to it due to covid...

All you would need is some upsets in the Power 5 championship games, especially if the winning team was unranked.  Happened last year with Oregon, and there have been a few times where one of the teams playing in the ACC championship wasn't ranked.

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Re: NCAA Football Expansion is coming...
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2021, 07:17:46 PM »
I looked at the final Top 25 from last year. I took out the six champions and ranked them then took the next six in the AP ranking and the results is more interesting than I first thought.

1. Alabama (1) vs. 12. Coastal Carolina (9)
2. Ohio State (3) vs. 11. Indiana (7)
3. Clemson (2) vs. 10. BYU (13)
4. Oklahoma (9) vs. 9. Northwestern (15)
5. Cincinnati (6) vs. 8. Iowa State (12)
6. USC (21) vs. 7. TAMU (5)


https://collegefootballnews.com/2021/01/ap-top-25-college-football-poll-rankings-2020-final

like i said, last season was an “anomaly” due to covid.  don’t expect a  near repeat of those rankings in the coming years.  last season you had teams “opting out”, players “opting out”, and programs put on “pause”.  hardly a “typical” football season.

to me, all school year 2020-21 football results should come with an “asterick” attached to it due to covid...

All you would need is some upsets in the Power 5 championship games, especially if the winning team was unranked.  Happened last year with Oregon, and there have been a few times where one of the teams playing in the ACC championship wasn't ranked.

all i’m saying is that there were too many “abnormalities” last season.  big 10 and pac 12 didn’t even start playing games until very “late” into the season which means they didn’t play as many games as a lot of teams.  then you had some weeks where teams had to “sit” some of their players due to covid protocol contact tracing.

i mean, i could go on and on.  the entire season should have an “asterick” next to it because it was nowhere near being a “typical” season.  that’s the point i’m making...

 

 

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