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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2021, 06:04:24 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?
Nobody cares who or what they join. But a few of you seem to think joining them make you exempt from scrutiny like everyone else. So spares us all this what if the other black students bs. As if you're fighting some great civil right battle by joining a conference.  Desegregation was defeated decades ago. Some of us just  understand desegregation doesn't mean taking everything you've built and own and giving total control of it to oppressor to help them become stronger. Than turn right around and whine about what we don't have and they do. And please spare me that old tired ass line about competing to be the best, because it's well known that A&T real intent is to move up to fbs. So who are you going to be competing against then to prove you're the best? You sure as hell won't be in the P5 group.


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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2021, 06:20:50 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?



the “exercise” is that we’re living at a time in “history” where voting rights are being taken away from the communities that “all hbcu’s” were founded to serve.  we’re living at a time in “history” where folk can literally motivate the “invasion” the nations capitol without being held accountable.  meanwhile, our folk are being “killed” publicly in plain view by law enforcement for doing far less, such as “selling cigarettes” and law enforcement gets off without accountability.

this is a time in “history” where we need to “support each other”, but not support those institutions that have perpetuated this type of behavior since 1865.

every hbcu in the country was founded with the primary mission of “serving our community”.  so when an hbcu “voluntarily” withdraws it support from an hbcu conference in order to give that support to a pwc conference of schools that has helped to sustain a “system” that is detrimental to our communities, its a darn good reason to exercise one’s voice to “oppose” such a damaging decision to an hbcu conference of hbcu schools that are suppose to serve our communities...
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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2021, 06:24:24 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?
Nobody cares who or what they join. But a few of you seem to think joining them make you exempt from scrutiny like everyone else. So spares us all this what if the other black students bs. As if you're fighting some great civil right battle by joining a conference.  Desegregation was defeated decades ago. Some of us just  understand desegregation doesn't mean taking everything you've built and own and giving total control of it to oppressor to help them become stronger. Than turn right around and whine about what we don't have and they do. And please spare me that old tired ass line about competing to be the best, because it's well known that A&T real intent is to move up to fbs. So who are you going to be competing against then to prove you're the best? You sure as hell won't be in the P5 group.

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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2021, 06:31:30 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?

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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2021, 06:46:26 PM »
I don't think Hampton's (or NCA&T) decision to move to another conference was based on Football attendance.

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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2021, 06:54:49 PM »
WestCoastAggie,

That is valid. The response from your fans will be valid, as well. You have always take your stakeholders into consideration. When the overwhelming majority say this is a bad move, they will show you at the gate.

Have we seen the giving percentages of HBCUs lately? Add that to the fact that ALL of our programs are vastly supported and sustained by current students and their student fees, just how far can Alumni and their money at the gates go? And how much can Alumni b***h and moan if they aren't financially stepping up to the plate, especially when they'll still buy season tickets for those coveted HBCU games?

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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2021, 07:00:12 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?



the “exercise” is that we’re living at a time in “history” where voting rights are being taken away from the communities that “all hbcu’s” were founded to serve.  we’re living at a time in “history” where folk can literally motivate the “invasion” the nations capitol without being held accountable.  meanwhile, our folk are being “killed” publicly in plain view by law enforcement for doing far less, such as “selling cigarettes” and law enforcement gets off without accountability.

this is a time in “history” where we need to “support each other”, but not support those institutions that have perpetuated this type of behavior since 1865.

every hbcu in the country was founded with the primary mission of “serving our community”.  so when an hbcu “voluntarily” withdraws it support from an hbcu conference in order to give that support to a pwc conference of schools that has helped to sustain a “system” that is detrimental to our communities, its a darn good reason to exercise one’s voice to “oppose” such a damaging decision to an hbcu conference of hbcu schools that are suppose to serve our communities...

To your whole argument:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?
2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?
3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?
4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?
5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?
6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

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Re: Anybody else notice Hampton has been....
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2021, 07:01:30 PM »
I don't think Hampton's (or NCA&T) decision to move to another conference was based on Football attendance.

A&T's reasons for leaving have been  :dedhorse: on multiple platforms ad-nauseum.

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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2021, 09:11:02 PM »
I don't think Hampton's (or NCA&T) decision to move to another conference was based on Football attendance.

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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2021, 10:32:32 PM »
I don't think Hampton's (or NCA&T) decision to move to another conference was based on Football attendance.

Exactly



Maybe not, but both are banking on scheduling HBCUs to help them at the gate.   :shrug:  They both have that gate in mind. 
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2021, 10:48:45 PM »
I don't think Hampton's (or NCA&T) decision to move to another conference was based on Football attendance.

Exactly



Maybe not, but both are banking on scheduling HBCUs to help them at the gate.   :shrug:  They both have that gate in mind.
Lol... it's never cease to amaze me how some people seem to think running an athletic program is free. So that never or shouldn't factor into the decision making
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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2021, 12:31:50 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?



the “exercise” is that we’re living at a time in “history” where voting rights are being taken away from the communities that “all hbcu’s” were founded to serve.  we’re living at a time in “history” where folk can literally motivate the “invasion” the nations capitol without being held accountable.  meanwhile, our folk are being “killed” publicly in plain view by law enforcement for doing far less, such as “selling cigarettes” and law enforcement gets off without accountability.

this is a time in “history” where we need to “support each other”, but not support those institutions that have perpetuated this type of behavior since 1865.

every hbcu in the country was founded with the primary mission of “serving our community”.  so when an hbcu “voluntarily” withdraws it support from an hbcu conference in order to give that support to a pwc conference of schools that has helped to sustain a “system” that is detrimental to our communities, its a darn good reason to exercise one’s voice to “oppose” such a damaging decision to an hbcu conference of hbcu schools that are suppose to serve our communities...

To your whole argument:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?
2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?
3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?
4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?
5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?
6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

 :popcorn:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?

what has pwc blacks got to do with an hbcu withdrawing its support from an hbcu conference to give that support to a pwc conference?  totally “irrelevant”...

2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?

remaining in an hbcu conference “does not” go against fighting to preserve voting rights.  who said it does?

3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?

who said it did?

4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?

stick to the point!  its about “not supporting” an hbcu conference that is designed to support hbcu’s and instead giving that support to pwc’s.  taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stop trying to “distort” the point...

5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?

who said a&t’s move goes against the so called “positive groundswell”?

6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

who said a&t’s move prevents it from supporting other hbcu’s?  stick to the point!  its about taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stick to the point!

 :popcorn:
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« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2021, 01:25:14 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?



the “exercise” is that we’re living at a time in “history” where voting rights are being taken away from the communities that “all hbcu’s” were founded to serve.  we’re living at a time in “history” where folk can literally motivate the “invasion” the nations capitol without being held accountable.  meanwhile, our folk are being “killed” publicly in plain view by law enforcement for doing far less, such as “selling cigarettes” and law enforcement gets off without accountability.

this is a time in “history” where we need to “support each other”, but not support those institutions that have perpetuated this type of behavior since 1865.

every hbcu in the country was founded with the primary mission of “serving our community”.  so when an hbcu “voluntarily” withdraws it support from an hbcu conference in order to give that support to a pwc conference of schools that has helped to sustain a “system” that is detrimental to our communities, its a darn good reason to exercise one’s voice to “oppose” such a damaging decision to an hbcu conference of hbcu schools that are suppose to serve our communities...

To your whole argument:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?
2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?
3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?
4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?
5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?
6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

 :popcorn:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?

what has pwc blacks got to do with an hbcu withdrawing its support from an hbcu conference to give that support to a pwc conference?  totally “irrelevant”...

2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?

remaining in an hbcu conference “does not” go against fighting to preserve voting rights.  who said it does?

3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?

who said it did?

4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?

stick to the point!  its about “not supporting” an hbcu conference that is designed to support hbcu’s and instead giving that support to pwc’s.  taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stop trying to “distort” the point...

5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?

who said a&t’s move goes against the so called “positive groundswell”?

6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

who said a&t’s move prevents it from supporting other hbcu’s?  stick to the point!  its about taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stick to the point!

 :popcorn:

You're the one that brought George Floyd and Breonna Taylor into this. But whatever.

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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2021, 01:59:44 PM »
whew to the narratives being thrown around here.

I guess it's best if HBCUs bubble themselves off and only deal with other HBCUs in the athletic space.

Does this also mean we should only do this in academia, or only when it comes to athletics?

And what about the vast majority of students and student-athletes that do not attend HBCUS? Should they be forced to only attend HBCUs for higher education too? What if they simply decide to just forego college altogether?

At the end of the day, schools should have the freedom to decide what's best for their universities, especially in environments where the Black kids have the freedom to choose where to attend school and ultimately play sports if they're talented enough to do so.

If that means a school decides to join a conference with mostly PWIs then so be it. And Tennessee State's admins, along with Hampton, A&T, and the other HBCUs in PWI conferences probably aren't going to join an HBCU conference anytime soon.

So, what really is this exercise for other than wasting bandwidth on this website?



the “exercise” is that we’re living at a time in “history” where voting rights are being taken away from the communities that “all hbcu’s” were founded to serve.  we’re living at a time in “history” where folk can literally motivate the “invasion” the nations capitol without being held accountable.  meanwhile, our folk are being “killed” publicly in plain view by law enforcement for doing far less, such as “selling cigarettes” and law enforcement gets off without accountability.

this is a time in “history” where we need to “support each other”, but not support those institutions that have perpetuated this type of behavior since 1865.

every hbcu in the country was founded with the primary mission of “serving our community”.  so when an hbcu “voluntarily” withdraws it support from an hbcu conference in order to give that support to a pwc conference of schools that has helped to sustain a “system” that is detrimental to our communities, its a darn good reason to exercise one’s voice to “oppose” such a damaging decision to an hbcu conference of hbcu schools that are suppose to serve our communities...

To your whole argument:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?
2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?
3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?
4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?
5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?
6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

 :popcorn:

1. Do PWI Blacks lose their right to vote?

what has pwc blacks got to do with an hbcu withdrawing its support from an hbcu conference to give that support to a pwc conference?  totally “irrelevant”...

2. How does remaining in a conference with all HBCU schools go against fighting to preserve our voting rights in the USA?

remaining in an hbcu conference “does not” go against fighting to preserve voting rights.  who said it does?

3. Did A&T's announcement to leave the MEAC for the Big South hinder Pres. Biden and VP. Harris from getting Aggies to vote for them?

who said it did?

4. How does going to the Big South stop A&T from serving the community of East Greensboro, Guilford County, North Carolina, and the US as a whole?

stick to the point!  its about “not supporting” an hbcu conference that is designed to support hbcu’s and instead giving that support to pwc’s.  taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stop trying to “distort” the point...

5. How does A&T's move go against the positive groundswell of support A&T and other HBCUs have received since the tragic murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor?

who said a&t’s move goes against the so called “positive groundswell”?

6. How does our move out of the MEAC prevent A&T from supporting other HBCUs in all other arenas?

who said a&t’s move prevents it from supporting other hbcu’s?  stick to the point!  its about taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.  stick to the point!

 :popcorn:

You're the one that brought George Floyd and Breonna Taylor into this. But whatever.

show me where i specifically mentioned george floyd or breonna taylor?  dude, you've gotta learn to "read" and "comprehend".  i referred to the "timing" of what our communities are going thru and i never once mentioned george floyd nor breonna taylor nor neither of their specific cases.

so please don't try to put "your words" in my mouth.  i'm more than capable of putting "my own words" in my own mouth.  like i said, "stick to the point" which is taking “away” support from an hbcu conference and giving that support to pwc’s, period.

all that other stuff you mentioned is nothing more than a "distraction" from the primary point...
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2021, 02:03:40 PM »
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