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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2021, 09:13:20 PM »
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.



But they have been div. 1 for years.  They will be fine. 
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2021, 10:11:08 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2021, 10:22:13 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2021, 11:07:33 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2021, 11:49:14 PM »
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.

So, many of the CIAA schools should drop to NAIA?

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2021, 07:30:56 AM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

And let's no forget the financial mismanagement by SC State administration and trustees...

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2021, 10:38:37 AM »
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.

So, many of the CIAA schools should drop to NAIA?

No. But some should drop to DIII.

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2021, 10:41:33 AM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2021, 11:08:52 AM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2021, 02:30:54 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
And wasn't founded until 1896.  SC had no intentions of building a school for us.  They were embarrassed by the success of Claflin, Benedict, and Allen.  As a result, they modeled SCSU after nearby Claflin.
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2021, 02:31:43 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:

A&T's campus looks like an ACC school. And that's with four HBCU State supported schools in the state.

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2021, 11:18:56 PM »
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
And wasn't founded until 1896.  SC had no intentions of building a school for us.  They were embarrassed by the success of Claflin, Benedict, and Allen.  As a result, they modeled SCSU after nearby Claflin.
The only way that AAMU and ALST got anything out of the state was to sue.  SCSU should have been lawyered up a long time ago because I know y'all are nowhere near getting the type of funding other state-supported schools of your size are.
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2021, 11:32:40 PM »
^^^^Same in Mississippi.

Jake Ayers filed the lawsuit in the 70s on behalf of JSU, Alcorn and Valley, the state fought it, Jake died during the process, the Supreme Court sided in his favor in the early 1990s and we didn't begin to get our money until the early 2000s. :no:

The Maryland HBCUs recently sued, too.  Get your damn money, SCSU! :nod:

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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2021, 01:41:59 AM »
Alabama A&M and Bama St sued also. Knight vs Alabama


^^^^Same in Mississippi.

Jake Ayers filed the lawsuit in the 70s on behalf of JSU, Alcorn and Valley, the state fought it, Jake died during the process, the Supreme Court sided in his favor in the early 1990s and we didn't begin to get our money until the early 2000s. :no:

The Maryland HBCUs recently sued, too.  Get your damn money, SCSU! :nod:
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Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2021, 06:13:42 AM »
The athletic budget at SCSU is a direct reflection of the declining enrollment on campus over the last decade. This surely can not be ignored. Hopefully, some resources can be put together to aid recruitment efforts to get more heads in beds. I promise you that if State could get back to 6k students we’d see a totally different athletic program.

And yes a lawsuit could help enhance their endowment and deferred maintenance issues too. But I’m sure that may come at some cost.

 

 

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