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Offline Devin

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #90 on: September 16, 2020, 04:39:19 PM »
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you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.

That's not an applicable comparison for a couple of reasons:

1. Positivity rates are relative to those who've been tested, not necessarily entire populations of people living in a community, city or state because not everyone is tested.

2. Athletes are functioning in relatively controlled environments and are tested more frequently than the general public. If there is a positive case, that athlete, or those athletes, are quickly isolated and others are quarantined to prevent futher spread. The general public isn't privy to those control factors.

3. It also helps that the sample size are much smaller and easier to manage in sports. It's easier to test, track and manage 600-1000 people than several hundred thousand or milllions in a given population.

4. On the other hand, It's much harder to prevent and control spread when mitigation measures and protocols vary from area to area combined with limited testing capacity or that people simply do not get tested.   

 :clap: thank you!  you just explained why it is safer to play college football than walk the public streets...

It's not neccessarily safer when games have been canceled and entire teams like LSU are getting COVID.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #91 on: September 16, 2020, 04:44:17 PM »
First I’m not sure how you compare a virus to a broken leg, or concussion, or even paralysis.

The NBA, NHL, are in a bubble, college sports aren’t even close to a bubble.

Why are you arguing so strenuously?  As RAM55 points out, these college players aren’t even getting paid to play.  Another inconsistency in your argument comparing college to professional sport teams.

Got that name tag on?  We need to know where you are for possible contact tracing.   :nod:

you have no basis for your opinion other than "fear".  i listed 8 "facts" that justifies college football being played this fall.  mlb, mls, and the nfl "ARE NOT" in a bubble.  so what's your excuse for mlb, mls, and the nfl?  none of those leagues have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds the general public and not even close.

get your "emotions" out of it and rely on the "science".  stop being so "spooked"!  everybody does not have to lock themselves up in their homes and don't go anywhere.  if you take the proper "precautions" you will be reasonably safe from contracting covid-19.

you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.  the reason why you have no "explanation" is because there is no explanation that suggests college football is "less safe" relative to covid-19 than the general public...


If the virus is not a concern, then why have nine college football games already been either postponed or canceled because of outbreaks within programs? Many teams have had to pause workouts and practices due to COVID-19.

High school games have been canceled for the same reason, too.

Those are "facts."

first of all, nobody said they had "zero concerns" about covid-19.  secondly, college games "HAVE NOT" been postponed/cancelled because of so called "outbreaks". 

games have been postponed because of "covid-19 safety protocols" which means a lot of players became unavailable not because they tested positive for covid-19, but instead because they had been "exposed" to teammate(s) who contracted the virus.  so in other words, auburn had 11 out of 122 players test positive, but "26" players had to be quarintined for at least 10 to 14 days because of potential "exposure" to covid-19.  11 out of 122 players does not constitute an "outbreak".


11 players testing positive DOES constitue an outbreak.  ::)

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #92 on: September 16, 2020, 04:48:50 PM »
First I’m not sure how you compare a virus to a broken leg, or concussion, or even paralysis.

The NBA, NHL, are in a bubble, college sports aren’t even close to a bubble.

Why are you arguing so strenuously?  As RAM55 points out, these college players aren’t even getting paid to play.  Another inconsistency in your argument comparing college to professional sport teams.

Got that name tag on?  We need to know where you are for possible contact tracing.   :nod:

you have no basis for your opinion other than "fear".  i listed 8 "facts" that justifies college football being played this fall.  mlb, mls, and the nfl "ARE NOT" in a bubble.  so what's your excuse for mlb, mls, and the nfl?  none of those leagues have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds the general public and not even close.

get your "emotions" out of it and rely on the "science".  stop being so "spooked"!  everybody does not have to lock themselves up in their homes and don't go anywhere.  if you take the proper "precautions" you will be reasonably safe from contracting covid-19.

you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.  the reason why you have no "explanation" is because there is no explanation that suggests college football is "less safe" relative to covid-19 than the general public...


If the virus is not a concern, then why have nine college football games already been either postponed or canceled because of outbreaks within programs? Many teams have had to pause workouts and practices due to COVID-19.

High school games have been canceled for the same reason, too.

Those are "facts."

first of all, nobody said they had "zero concerns" about covid-19.  secondly, college games "HAVE NOT" been postponed/cancelled because of so called "outbreaks". 

games have been postponed because of "covid-19 safety protocols" which means a lot of players became unavailable not because they tested positive for covid-19, but instead because they had been "exposed" to teammate(s) who contracted the virus.  so in other words, auburn had 11 out of 122 players test positive, but "26" players had to be quarintined for at least 10 to 14 days because of potential "exposure" to covid-19.  11 out of 122 players does not constitute an "outbreak".


11 players testing positive DOES constitue an outbreak.  ::)

its not an "outbreak", how is 9% an outbreak?  that means 90% have not contracted.  also, all 11 players did not contract at the "same time"....

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #93 on: September 16, 2020, 04:52:28 PM »
First I’m not sure how you compare a virus to a broken leg, or concussion, or even paralysis.

The NBA, NHL, are in a bubble, college sports aren’t even close to a bubble.

Why are you arguing so strenuously?  As RAM55 points out, these college players aren’t even getting paid to play.  Another inconsistency in your argument comparing college to professional sport teams.

Got that name tag on?  We need to know where you are for possible contact tracing.   :nod:

you have no basis for your opinion other than "fear".  i listed 8 "facts" that justifies college football being played this fall.  mlb, mls, and the nfl "ARE NOT" in a bubble.  so what's your excuse for mlb, mls, and the nfl?  none of those leagues have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds the general public and not even close.

get your "emotions" out of it and rely on the "science".  stop being so "spooked"!  everybody does not have to lock themselves up in their homes and don't go anywhere.  if you take the proper "precautions" you will be reasonably safe from contracting covid-19.

you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.  the reason why you have no "explanation" is because there is no explanation that suggests college football is "less safe" relative to covid-19 than the general public...


If the virus is not a concern, then why have nine college football games already been either postponed or canceled because of outbreaks within programs? Many teams have had to pause workouts and practices due to COVID-19.

High school games have been canceled for the same reason, too.

Those are "facts."

first of all, nobody said they had "zero concerns" about covid-19.  secondly, college games "HAVE NOT" been postponed/cancelled because of so called "outbreaks". 

games have been postponed because of "covid-19 safety protocols" which means a lot of players became unavailable not because they tested positive for covid-19, but instead because they had been "exposed" to teammate(s) who contracted the virus.  so in other words, auburn had 11 out of 122 players test positive, but "26" players had to be quarintined for at least 10 to 14 days because of potential "exposure" to covid-19.  11 out of 122 players does not constitute an "outbreak".


11 players testing positive DOES constitue an outbreak.  ::)

its not an "outbreak", how is 9% an outbreak?  that means 90% have not contracted.  also, all 11 players did not contract at the "same time"....

If 9 percent of the American population tested positive for COVID, that would be 27 million people.

So yes, 11 players testing positive for COVID is an outbreak.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #94 on: September 16, 2020, 05:50:34 PM »
First I’m not sure how you compare a virus to a broken leg, or concussion, or even paralysis.

The NBA, NHL, are in a bubble, college sports aren’t even close to a bubble.

Why are you arguing so strenuously?  As RAM55 points out, these college players aren’t even getting paid to play.  Another inconsistency in your argument comparing college to professional sport teams.

Got that name tag on?  We need to know where you are for possible contact tracing.   :nod:

you have no basis for your opinion other than "fear".  i listed 8 "facts" that justifies college football being played this fall.  mlb, mls, and the nfl "ARE NOT" in a bubble.  so what's your excuse for mlb, mls, and the nfl?  none of those leagues have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds the general public and not even close.

get your "emotions" out of it and rely on the "science".  stop being so "spooked"!  everybody does not have to lock themselves up in their homes and don't go anywhere.  if you take the proper "precautions" you will be reasonably safe from contracting covid-19.

you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.  the reason why you have no "explanation" is because there is no explanation that suggests college football is "less safe" relative to covid-19 than the general public...


If the virus is not a concern, then why have nine college football games already been either postponed or canceled because of outbreaks within programs? Many teams have had to pause workouts and practices due to COVID-19.

High school games have been canceled for the same reason, too.

Those are "facts."

first of all, nobody said they had "zero concerns" about covid-19.  secondly, college games "HAVE NOT" been postponed/cancelled because of so called "outbreaks". 

games have been postponed because of "covid-19 safety protocols" which means a lot of players became unavailable not because they tested positive for covid-19, but instead because they had been "exposed" to teammate(s) who contracted the virus.  so in other words, auburn had 11 out of 122 players test positive, but "26" players had to be quarintined for at least 10 to 14 days because of potential "exposure" to covid-19.  11 out of 122 players does not constitute an "outbreak".


11 players testing positive DOES constitue an outbreak.  ::)

its not an "outbreak", how is 9% an outbreak?  that means 90% have not contracted.  also, all 11 players did not contract at the "same time"....

If 9 percent of the American population tested positive for COVID, that would be 27 million people.

So yes, 11 players testing positive for COVID is an outbreak.

that's only your personal definition, not an official definition.  my definition is just as valid as yours.  especially considering that all 11 players "did not" contract the disease at the same time.  some of them have already recovered, so now auburn only has 9 players who have the virus...

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #95 on: September 16, 2020, 06:09:42 PM »
Two infected people in a nursing home is considered an outbreak. I’m sure the number changes depending on circumstances.

You used a word/phrase used by people arguing to open up the economy and other institutions.  FEAR.
It’s not fear but being cautious until there are vaccines/medicines to combat the virus AND enough people vaccinated to give confidence. You are arguing like a impetuous child.  “I WANT MY [insert desire] AND I WANT IT NOW”.

Masking, distancing, and eliminating risky unnecessary behavior (sports,concerts,bars,clubs,etc?) for a short period will yield benefits instead of pushing forward simply because some folk have no self control over their wants.


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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #96 on: September 16, 2020, 06:59:54 PM »
First I’m not sure how you compare a virus to a broken leg, or concussion, or even paralysis.

The NBA, NHL, are in a bubble, college sports aren’t even close to a bubble.

Why are you arguing so strenuously?  As RAM55 points out, these college players aren’t even getting paid to play.  Another inconsistency in your argument comparing college to professional sport teams.

Got that name tag on?  We need to know where you are for possible contact tracing.   :nod:

you have no basis for your opinion other than "fear".  i listed 8 "facts" that justifies college football being played this fall.  mlb, mls, and the nfl "ARE NOT" in a bubble.  so what's your excuse for mlb, mls, and the nfl?  none of those leagues have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds the general public and not even close.

get your "emotions" out of it and rely on the "science".  stop being so "spooked"!  everybody does not have to lock themselves up in their homes and don't go anywhere.  if you take the proper "precautions" you will be reasonably safe from contracting covid-19.

you still haven't explained why "6" professional sports leagues and college football teams have been playing regular season games and "NONE" (not even 1) of them have covid-19 positivity rates that exceeds that of the general public.  the reason why you have no "explanation" is because there is no explanation that suggests college football is "less safe" relative to covid-19 than the general public...


If the virus is not a concern, then why have nine college football games already been either postponed or canceled because of outbreaks within programs? Many teams have had to pause workouts and practices due to COVID-19.

High school games have been canceled for the same reason, too.

Those are "facts."

first of all, nobody said they had "zero concerns" about covid-19.  secondly, college games "HAVE NOT" been postponed/cancelled because of so called "outbreaks". 

games have been postponed because of "covid-19 safety protocols" which means a lot of players became unavailable not because they tested positive for covid-19, but instead because they had been "exposed" to teammate(s) who contracted the virus.  so in other words, auburn had 11 out of 122 players test positive, but "26" players had to be quarintined for at least 10 to 14 days because of potential "exposure" to covid-19.  11 out of 122 players does not constitute an "outbreak".


11 players testing positive DOES constitue an outbreak.  ::)

its not an "outbreak", how is 9% an outbreak?  that means 90% have not contracted.  also, all 11 players did not contract at the "same time"....

If 9 percent of the American population tested positive for COVID, that would be 27 million people.

So yes, 11 players testing positive for COVID is an outbreak.

that's only your personal definition, not an official definition.  my definition is just as valid as yours.  especially considering that all 11 players "did not" contract the disease at the same time.  some of them have already recovered, so now auburn only has 9 players who have the virus...

That's not a personal definition. Go look up what defines an outbreak. There is no specific number associated with it.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #97 on: September 17, 2020, 10:01:49 AM »
SOME FOLKS SIMPLY HAVE NO REAL SENSE OF PRIORITY.  A FOOTBALL GAME IS WORTH NOT A SINGLE LIFE.  PERIOD.  YES, I LOVE FOOTBALL BUT I HAVE THE COMMON SENSE REGARDING WHERE TO PLACE THAT LOVE IN MY PRIORITIES.
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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #98 on: September 17, 2020, 12:26:13 PM »
The UNC/Charlotte game has been cancelled. The Charlotte offensive line has been quarantined.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2020, 12:37:27 PM »
Just keep playing with that fire.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/europe/coronavirus-europe-who-second-wave-intl/index.html

Just a matter of time before this happens here. Keep going to the barbershop. Sooner or later you're going to get a haircut...

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #100 on: September 17, 2020, 01:45:32 PM »
SOME FOLKS SIMPLY HAVE NO REAL SENSE OF PRIORITY.  A FOOTBALL GAME IS WORTH NOT A SINGLE LIFE.  PERIOD.  YES, I LOVE FOOTBALL BUT I HAVE THE COMMON SENSE REGARDING WHERE TO PLACE THAT LOVE IN MY PRIORITIES.

What makes your post so good is that your school Bowie was loaded this year. Ya'll could have made it far in the playoffs with that team you would have had coming back. But yet, you still put more value in their lives than them winning a National Championship. That's class and leadership when it counts the most. Some of these posters who want to play, schools didn't have a chance to win anything, but yet they are advocating our boys to risk their and family members lives. I just don't understand.  :shrug:

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #101 on: September 17, 2020, 02:51:13 PM »
The UNC/Charlotte game has been cancelled. The Charlotte offensive line has been quarantined.
Send oldschoolage. He can play.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #102 on: September 17, 2020, 03:14:17 PM »
SOME FOLKS SIMPLY HAVE NO REAL SENSE OF PRIORITY.  A FOOTBALL GAME IS WORTH NOT A SINGLE LIFE.  PERIOD.  YES, I LOVE FOOTBALL BUT I HAVE THE COMMON SENSE REGARDING WHERE TO PLACE THAT LOVE IN MY PRIORITIES.

What makes your post so good is that your school Bowie was loaded this year. Ya'll could have made it far in the playoffs with that team you would have had coming back. But yet, you still put more value in their lives than them winning a National Championship. That's class and leadership when it counts the most. Some of these posters who want to play, schools didn't have a chance to win anything, but yet they are advocating our boys to risk their and family members lives. I just don't understand.  :shrug:

Ditto. There's more to life than sports.

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #103 on: September 17, 2020, 05:01:00 PM »
The UNC/Charlotte game has been cancelled. The Charlotte offensive line has been quarantined.
Send oldschoolage. He can play.

send yo momma, she can play!

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Re: Did we overreact by cancelling college football this year?
« Reply #104 on: September 17, 2020, 05:01:20 PM »
welp, looks like the ncaa oversight committee disagrees with a lot of you folk as it pertains to college basketball...

[twitter url="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsCBB/status/1305545007709945856"]

IF YOU CHOOSE TO ATTEND THESE EVENTS, DO SO.  NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU OR SUGGESTING THAT. 

i don't have a problem attending events that recognize proper covid-19 protocols such as testing, masks, proper hygiene, and social distancing.  labor day weekend i attended an outdoor "go go" concert in maryland, everybody (except the bands) wearing masks felt very safe to me. 

i have no symptoms and i feel perfectly fine 10 days later...

I guess you haven't heard the term ASYMPTOMATIC which is hard to believe considering how often it's been mentioned during this pandemic.

Have you put on a name tag when you go out in public?


 

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