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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2020, 08:31:52 AM »
Again, if Coppin State and UMES had restarted their FCS football teams, the makeup and shakeup would be looking a lot different....and less desperate.  IJS  :shrug:
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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2020, 08:51:24 AM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2020, 09:43:38 AM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.
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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2020, 10:18:17 AM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2020, 11:07:49 AM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2020, 12:56:25 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 12:58:43 PM by Ram55 »

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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2020, 12:59:31 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.

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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2020, 01:03:31 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.

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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2020, 01:58:10 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.


Amen!  I think he is having a difficult time understanding this. 
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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2020, 02:58:48 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.


Amen!  I think he is having a difficult time understanding this.

If your leadership is sensitive, passive and stale in its thinking as you are hoping trust me that the schools in Durham and Winston will be chasing NC A&T athletically and academically for another 50 years. :tiptoe:

I like Frederick but hopefully he will put his brains into innovation and not stagnation.

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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2020, 03:20:14 PM »
Ram55 yeh it may be that 3 years from now many of the remaining MEAC schools will need to join the CIAA. I do not disagree with that and consider it positive. But the notion that the MEAC is secure is willful blindness.

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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2020, 06:05:37 PM »
Ram55 yeh it may be that 3 years from now many of the remaining MEAC schools will need to join the CIAA. I do not disagree with that and consider it positive. But the notion that the MEAC is secure is willful blindness.

AimHigh- I truly understand your thought process. Yes, the MEAC is reeling right now. HOWEVER, HBCU sports and the black community can't afford to lose the MEAC. Our two HBCU division I conferences has been functioning as a side division in the NCAA. They need each other like salt and pepper. We need both of them, they are our pillars for cultural and educational needs. I hope we don't let sports mess this up.

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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2020, 06:27:33 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.


Amen!  I think he is having a difficult time understanding this.

If your leadership is sensitive, passive and stale in its thinking as you are hoping trust me that the schools in Durham and Winston will be chasing NC A&T athletically and academically for another 50 years. :tiptoe:

I like Frederick but hopefully he will put his brains into innovation and not stagnation.

One more point about your comment about "NCCU and WSSU chasing A&T". Do you think that either of these two schools would rather play in the CIAA tournament or the Big South's? Play Campbell or anybody in the CIAA? Who would you rather watch? You're from a school that doesn't really have any HBCU traditions, so you think wanting to be like white schools is the way to go. Some of us like being black. :nono2:

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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2020, 06:39:11 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.


Amen!  I think he is having a difficult time understanding this.

If your leadership is sensitive, passive and stale in its thinking as you are hoping trust me that the schools in Durham and Winston will be chasing NC A&T athletically and academically for another 50 years. :tiptoe:

I like Frederick but hopefully he will put his brains into innovation and not stagnation.

One more point about your comment about "NCCU and WSSU chasing A&T". Do you think that either of these two schools would rather play in the CIAA tournament or the Big South's? Play Campbell or anybody in the CIAA? Who would you rather watch? You're from a school that doesn't really have any HBCU traditions, so you think wanting to be like white schools is the way to go. Some of us like being black. :nono2:

I would rather be playing Hampton and A&T home-home than UMES and Coppin to answer your question.

I love the Battle of the Real HU if you don't know much about our HBCU traditions at Howard!

No shade, but I don't need to go to a b-ball game against Coppin to feel black. ::)
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Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2020, 06:51:00 PM »
I wish the northern MEAC schools would drop to D2 and team up with the northern CIAA schools.

Let's hope Dr. Fredrick doesn't see it the same way.

I already made it known I do not see Howard going D2. Dr. Fredrick has no say in Del. State, Morgan, UMES, and Coppin. Norfolk St. should also be in the MEAC core considering the D2 option. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if NEC ultimately did not see Del. State as a fit, which is why they stayed. I do not see MEAC expanding into the northeastern region of FCS any time soon, whether the conference or individual schools.

All the chatter about the MEAC's history. MEAC started as a D2 conference that moved up. Let's get back to these roots (although I still see NC Central, SC State and maybe Howard as a better fit in FCS / Big South).

The MEAC is thinking who can move up or move over in FCS to get members. Instead MEAC should be thinking maybe we should drop to D2 to expand and grow the conference. Get out of the box.

Do you think Funding would stay the same if a move to D2 happened

I do not know, but I am certain expenses would decrease with this kind of footprint.

Lincoln
Delaware St.
Morgan St.
Bowie St.
Coppin St.
UMES
Virginia Union
Virginia St.
Norfolk St.
Elizabeth City St.

First of all, the MEAC ain't going anywhere. Secondly, there is no way those CIAA schools would leave the conference just to save the MEAC. There is too much tradition for them to leave. Maybe the CIAA will except a few MEAC schools, but in the format that's currently in place. The CIAA don't live just to rescue the MEAC.


Amen!  I think he is having a difficult time understanding this.

If your leadership is sensitive, passive and stale in its thinking as you are hoping trust me that the schools in Durham and Winston will be chasing NC A&T athletically and academically for another 50 years. :tiptoe:

I like Frederick but hopefully he will put his brains into innovation and not stagnation.

One more point about your comment about "NCCU and WSSU chasing A&T". Do you think that either of these two schools would rather play in the CIAA tournament or the Big South's? Play Campbell or anybody in the CIAA? Who would you rather watch? You're from a school that doesn't really have any HBCU traditions, so you think wanting to be like white schools is the way to go. Some of us like being black. :nono2:

I would rather be playing Hampton and A&T home-home than UMES and Coppin to answer your question.

I love the Battle of the Real HU if you don't know much about our HBCU traditions!

No shade, but I don't need to go to a b-ball game in Coppin to feel black. ::)

That's  not tradition. Tradition is the CIAA. Thats why all the schools that left the CI still come back to the real homecoming. Trust me when I tell you that both NCCU and WSSU are the Mother's of them all. Howard is outside looking in and losing ya'll to an white conference doesn't really hurt Black College sports. Now if NCCU left for the Big South, that would really hurt the soul of our people. A&T leaving does hurt. They had become the Mother School of the HBCU world.

 

 

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