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Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2020, 08:49:35 AM »
    What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)

    How much is NCCU paying WSSU to play them in Durham?

    An A&T vs. WSSU game produces more revenue than a game with NCCU. So if we produce more we want more. NCCU is probably paying us more than what they would normally pay considering its their home game. Some reasons could be because
    * it a one and done game,
    * WSSU fans travel well,
    * half of WSSUs administrators involved in this game are NCCU grads,
    * and they just want to have a great game that will sellout with an old rival.[/li][/list]

    There is no doubt WSSU, A&T, and NCCU should be playing each other as often as possible for many reasons. All three produce sellout crouds, share family ties, and etc. The three schools are joined at the hips. Its unfortunate that A&T has gotten so arrogant that they don't want to play WSSU. Their arrogance has lead many Rams away from wanting a game with them... including me.
    « Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 09:01:19 AM by Ram55 »

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    Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
    « Reply #31 on: March 25, 2020, 10:43:22 AM »
    I'm sorry 55! But the Aggies and Aggie supporters are so predictable. :lmao:

    Da hell that got to do with A&T. It’s so sad to see the once proud rams begging us AGGIES for a game again.

    You wanna play A&T, you know the terms and where the game will be.

    No beg. I am just killing one of your arguments.
    A&T is clearly not event thinking about restoring the rivalry with its D2 neighbor. They want to play only schools where they can gain leverage strength of schedule while exposing themselves for huge revenue returns from corporate partners. Since changing their business model is clear that the Aggies have benefited greatly and there’s no need to change now.

    With the move to the Big South their non-conference games most likely include NCCU annually,  FAMU/Alcorn/Jackson (Atlanta Classic), a regional PWI that will pay them and either Howard or SC State whoever has an open date and is willing to travel to Greensboro.

    I see NCCU annually as the birds are our rivals and will be on the schedule every year after things settle from our transition. Playing in a Classic in Atlanta would be nice, but I think it's more likely we will see a regional HBCU mix of Howard, Norfolk, or SC State. We have ties to all those schools and travel would be well within our footprint.

    After that, a regional FBS school for sure. We have played every FBS School in NC besides NC STATE as I recall. Trying to stay in rotation on those schedules will be good for our budget and the program.

    The rams are irrelevant at this point...and they know it, and that's why they are so pissed. Their obsession with all things A&T is just  :crazy:

    We're not pissed. We can see that in the long run, A&T moving to the Big South is bad for our people. The reality is that you can't save people that don't want to be saved. WSSU is doing fine without playing ya'll. We look in the mirror, and read our history, to help us know who we are. You are so obsessed with sports that you can't see how foolish your moves are.

    4-7 is fine. Bwhahaha, losing coaches that's fine too

    We don't measure how good we are doing as a school by how many wins we have in sports, or by how many coaches we lose. We have won plenty in the last ten years. In fact, we're the only HBCU that has played in a national championship game in the last ten years. We have also beat national level teams on our division, plenty of times in the last ten years.

    That's great! So why y'all always worried about what happening in Aggieland...and begging for a game :shrug:

    From reading your post, you are obviously one of the more intelligent dogs. But you can't confuse us Rams wanting to play a very good and well attended game with begging for a game. I personally don't want to play ya'll anymore. You now put sports above the needs of our people. And yes, you do think you are too good to play most HBCUs, You want to select only the schools that will uplift you, when your being the largest HBCU, you should be uplifting everyone else. On this forum, we constantly complain abut PWS taking our best and brightest athletes and now you have allowed them to take one of our best and brightest schools. Yes, this is a sellout.


    55 I feel you, and know a lot of Aggies feel you too. Remember I started this thread while we were arguing about playing on the Hampton and A&T Schedule threads. I broke the news about the move, hence the title of the thread. As you have pointed out to 96, we ain't begging. If they ARE better why not shut us up?

    Bison you should apply for a job in T's PR office, or SI office.

    Yes Eagle, they are scared!

     :lmao:

    Now the REAL reason for bringing this up......we need some levity in these serious times.

    You can't even win the Southern Division of the CIAA but you can beat A&T.  :crazy: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I can not wait to watch NCCU put up 50 points on you

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    Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
    « Reply #32 on: March 25, 2020, 10:49:25 AM »
    Can someone tell us was the last time that NCAT played WSSU home and away?

    When we were both in the MEAC 2009 in Winston and then 2010 in Greensboro.

    A&T ( MEAC) last traveled to WSSU (CIAA) in non conference in 1999. MEAC put a rule in place starting in 2000, that you can only play one Division 2 school. We chose NCCU.

    So as you see , we have a history of not playing WSSU until we want too. This isn't new

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    Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
    « Reply #33 on: March 25, 2020, 11:15:13 AM »
    At this point, I just want there to be a football season. Just saying....



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    Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
    « Reply #34 on: March 25, 2020, 12:30:16 PM »
    At this point, I just want there to be a football season. Just saying....







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    « Reply #35 on: March 25, 2020, 03:38:49 PM »
    Can someone tell us was the last time that NCAT played WSSU home and away?

    When we were both in the MEAC 2009 in Winston and then 2010 in Greensboro.

    A&T ( MEAC) last traveled to WSSU (CIAA) in non conference in 1999. MEAC put a rule in place starting in 2000, that you can only play one Division 2 school. We chose NCCU.

    So as you see , we have a history of not playing WSSU until we want too. This isn't new


    Why are we even having this conversation ? The last time A&T traveled to wssu in a non conference game was in 1999. Let's just face the facts. NCA&T no longer sees wssu as a rival...deal with it...it is what it is. The Aggies haven't even left the MEAC yet and folk are talking about making sure A&T and Central keep playing. Folks want to keep NSU, Howard, SCSU, and FAMU on the schedule. No mention of wssu at all.

    The rams are just a non factor...If Central wants to play you guys after a long break, that's cool...but, A&T has moved on.

    Maybe we play again one day, but if we do the rams are crazy to think it will be on an "equal" basis. You will travel to Greensboro, you will take a payout that we think is reasonable, or we will not play...and the Aggies are fine with that, really...we good.

    Best of luck to the rams in the CIAA.   

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    « Reply #36 on: March 25, 2020, 03:55:53 PM »
    What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


    You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


    You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:
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    « Reply #37 on: March 25, 2020, 04:26:39 PM »
    What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


    You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


    You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

    Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

    If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.

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    « Reply #38 on: March 25, 2020, 04:45:40 PM »
    What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


    You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


    You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

    Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

    If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.



    I know but I still don't like it.  Wonder why the Big South is all of a sudden interested in HBCUs?
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    Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
    « Reply #39 on: March 25, 2020, 05:15:43 PM »
      What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)

      How much is NCCU paying WSSU to play them in Durham?

      An A&T vs. WSSU game produces more revenue than a game with NCCU. So if we produce more we want more. NCCU is probably paying us more than what they would normally pay considering its their home game. Some reasons could be because
      * it a one and done game,
      * WSSU fans travel well,
      * half of WSSUs administrators involved in this game are NCCU grads,
      * and they just want to have a great game that will sellout with an old rival.[/li][/list]

      There is no doubt WSSU, A&T, and NCCU should be playing each other as often as possible for many reasons. All three produce sellout crouds, share family ties, and etc. The three schools are joined at the hips. Its unfortunate that A&T has gotten so arrogant that they don't want to play WSSU. Their arrogance has lead many Rams away from wanting a game with them... including me.

       :lmao: Oh,,,,,,,,,,yall want a game with A&T!!!!! If you don't, why do you all keep bringing this situation up?  :popcorn: Well, obviously, with WSSU being in the position they're in, WSSU is not in a position to be dictating to A&T football terms. Yall actually think yall gonna TELL A&T how much of a payout, location, etc. without A&T balking at that thought? And it's like, every other month or few months, somebody from WSSU throws more gasoline on a smoldering fire by bringing it up again, and again, and again! I must say, it definitely makes for fun reading!!!!!!!!
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      « Reply #40 on: March 25, 2020, 05:25:21 PM »
      What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


      You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


      You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

      Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

      If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.



      I know but I still don't like it.  Wonder why the Big South is all of a sudden interested in HBCUs?

      And FAMU is making an announcement soon, too? It's definitely scary,,,,,,,, :shrug: :no: :brickwall:
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      Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
      « Reply #41 on: March 25, 2020, 06:01:02 PM »
      What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


      You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


      You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

      Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

      If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.



      I know but I still don't like it.  Wonder why the Big South is all of a sudden interested in HBCUs?

      The state of N.C. put a good deal of money into A&T over the passed few years.  Look like they are now putting more money into NCCU.  Is the state pressuring A&T and NCCU to join the big south to attract more white students, and justify the money put into them?  Was the big south the conference selected, because they will take anyone, and most the members are really looking for a new conference home? 

      I cannot see how the money saved on travel will make-up for the money lost on attendance.  I have seen the amount of money A&T plans to save on travel, but I have not seen the estimated amount of money they expect to lose in attendance.   When the University of Maryland moved to the Big Ten, all these numbers were provided when the announcement was made.

      One thing the move to the big south does is it reduces A&T’s footprint in the black community.  I would guess in a few years, black high school students in the DMV may not know that A&T is a HBCU.

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      Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
      « Reply #42 on: March 25, 2020, 08:37:34 PM »
      What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


      You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


      You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

      Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

      If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.



      I know but I still don't like it.  Wonder why the Big South is all of a sudden interested in HBCUs?

      The state of N.C. put a good deal of money into A&T over the passed few years.  Look like they are now putting more money into NCCU.  Is the state pressuring A&T and NCCU to join the big south to attract more white students, and justify the money put into them?  Was the big south the conference selected, because they will take anyone, and most the members are really looking for a new conference home? 

      I cannot see how the money saved on travel will make-up for the money lost on attendance.  I have seen the amount of money A&T plans to save on travel, but I have not seen the estimated amount of money they expect to lose in attendance.   When the University of Maryland moved to the Big Ten, all these numbers were provided when the announcement was made.

      One thing the move to the big south does is it reduces A&T’s footprint in the black community.  I would guess in a few years, black high school students in the DMV may not know that A&T is a HBCU.

      You think the state of NC is pressuring A&T and NCCU to move to the Big South? WOW. Now,,,,,,,THAT is a concept I would have never thought of. I could have sworn I read somewhere that TSU had this mandate with the state of Tennessee,,,,,,,interesting  :read:
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      Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
      « Reply #43 on: March 25, 2020, 10:11:36 PM »
      What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)


      You will very likely be joining us in the next year or so. That's why I'm gonna save some of these threads.   ;D


      You make me sick because what you normally say comes to pass.  :dedhorse: :dedhorse:

      Who knows eagle pride? One thing is for sure the birds moving to a conference with it's core in Va, NC, and SC makes a lot of sense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Norfolk is thinking about it.

      If Central and Norfolk joined the Big South you would get A&T, Hampton, and Norfolk locked in as conference games. Out of conference you could play anyone you wanted...FBS money games, regional PWIs, and HBCU rivals...the reduction in travel expenses would be real that's for sure.



      I know but I still don't like it.  Wonder why the Big South is all of a sudden interested in HBCUs?

      The state of N.C. put a good deal of money into A&T over the passed few years.  Look like they are now putting more money into NCCU.  Is the state pressuring A&T and NCCU to join the big south to attract more white students, and justify the money put into them?  Was the big south the conference selected, because they will take anyone, and most the members are really looking for a new conference home? 

      I cannot see how the money saved on travel will make-up for the money lost on attendance.  I have seen the amount of money A&T plans to save on travel, but I have not seen the estimated amount of money they expect to lose in attendance.   When the University of Maryland moved to the Big Ten, all these numbers were provided when the announcement was made.

      One thing the move to the big south does is it reduces A&T’s footprint in the black community.  I would guess in a few years, black high school students in the DMV may not know that A&T is a HBCU.

      You think the state of NC is pressuring A&T and NCCU to move to the Big South? WOW. Now,,,,,,,THAT is a concept I would have never thought of. I could have sworn I read somewhere that TSU had this mandate with the state of Tennessee,,,,,,,interesting  :read:


      Reading a&t's reasons made me think there was more to it.  I wondered if the state had something to do with them going to the Big South.  If that is the case, we are next. :no:
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      Re: A&T's BEST excuse for running from the Rams
      « Reply #44 on: March 25, 2020, 11:36:50 PM »
      I'm sorry 55! But the Aggies and Aggie supporters are so predictable. :lmao:

      Da hell that got to do with A&T. It’s so sad to see the once proud rams begging us AGGIES for a game again.

      You wanna play A&T, you know the terms and where the game will be.

      No beg. I am just killing one of your arguments.
      A&T is clearly not event thinking about restoring the rivalry with its D2 neighbor. They want to play only schools where they can gain leverage strength of schedule while exposing themselves for huge revenue returns from corporate partners. Since changing their business model is clear that the Aggies have benefited greatly and there’s no need to change now.

      With the move to the Big South their non-conference games most likely include NCCU annually,  FAMU/Alcorn/Jackson (Atlanta Classic), a regional PWI that will pay them and either Howard or SC State whoever has an open date and is willing to travel to Greensboro.

      I see NCCU annually as the birds are our rivals and will be on the schedule every year after things settle from our transition. Playing in a Classic in Atlanta would be nice, but I think it's more likely we will see a regional HBCU mix of Howard, Norfolk, or SC State. We have ties to all those schools and travel would be well within our footprint.

      After that, a regional FBS school for sure. We have played every FBS School in NC besides NC STATE as I recall. Trying to stay in rotation on those schedules will be good for our budget and the program.

      The rams are irrelevant at this point...and they know it, and that's why they are so pissed. Their obsession with all things A&T is just  :crazy:

      We're not pissed. We can see that in the long run, A&T moving to the Big South is bad for our people. The reality is that you can't save people that don't want to be saved. WSSU is doing fine without playing ya'll. We look in the mirror, and read our history, to help us know who we are. You are so obsessed with sports that you can't see how foolish your moves are.

      4-7 is fine. Bwhahaha, losing coaches that's fine too

      We don't measure how good we are doing as a school by how many wins we have in sports, or by how many coaches we lose. We have won plenty in the last ten years. In fact, we're the only HBCU that has played in a national championship game in the last ten years. We have also beat national level teams on our division, plenty of times in the last ten years.

      That's great! So why y'all always worried about what happening in Aggieland...and begging for a game :shrug:

      From reading your post, you are obviously one of the more intelligent dogs. But you can't confuse us Rams wanting to play a very good and well attended game with begging for a game. I personally don't want to play ya'll anymore. You now put sports above the needs of our people. And yes, you do think you are too good to play most HBCUs, You want to select only the schools that will uplift you, when your being the largest HBCU, you should be uplifting everyone else. On this forum, we constantly complain abut PWS taking our best and brightest athletes and now you have allowed them to take one of our best and brightest schools. Yes, this is a sellout.


      55 I feel you, and know a lot of Aggies feel you too. Remember I started this thread while we were arguing about playing on the Hampton and A&T Schedule threads. I broke the news about the move, hence the title of the thread. As you have pointed out to 96, we ain't begging. If they ARE better why not shut us up?

      Bison you should apply for a job in T's PR office, or SI office.

      Yes Eagle, they are scared!

       :lmao:

      Now the REAL reason for bringing this up......we need some levity in these serious times.

      You can't even win the Southern Division of the CIAA but you can beat A&T.  :crazy: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      I can not wait to watch NCCU put up 50 points on you

      Fellow Golden Eagle I need to take you to lunch.  You'll be alright.  But for now,  put it down. :nono2: We can't beat you if you're scared to play. 50?  I highly doubt it. 1999-2000?  Where is the clown who made that decision?  Look HARD!  Damn!  He's not even at the obscure place to which I was referring anymore! :no:

        What else can be the reason why you don't play a sure sell-out? :shrug:  Then they want to complain about not having enough money for travel. :shrug:  Now they are banking on playing NCCU every year. :shrug:  Sorry, we are playing WSSU!  :tongue2:  Enjoy your new conference aggies. ::)

        How much is NCCU paying WSSU to play them in Durham?

        An A&T vs. WSSU game produces more revenue than a game with NCCU. So if we produce more we want more. NCCU is probably paying us more than what they would normally pay considering its their home game. Some reasons could be because
        * it a one and done game,
        * WSSU fans travel well,
        * half of WSSUs administrators involved in this game are NCCU grads,
        * and they just want to have a great game that will sellout with an old rival.[/li][/list]

        There is no doubt WSSU, A&T, and NCCU should be playing each other as often as possible for many reasons. All three produce sellout crouds, share family ties, and etc. The three schools are joined at the hips. Its unfortunate that A&T has gotten so arrogant that they don't want to play WSSU. Their arrogance has lead many Rams away from wanting a game with them... including me.

         :lmao: Oh,,,,,,,,,,yall want a game with A&T!!!!! If you don't, why do you all keep bringing this situation up?  :popcorn: Well, obviously, with WSSU being in the position they're in, WSSU is not in a position to be dictating to A&T football terms. Yall actually think yall gonna TELL A&T how much of a payout, location, etc. without A&T balking at that thought? And it's like, every other month or few months, somebody from WSSU throws more gasoline on a smoldering fire by bringing it up again, and again, and again! I must say, it definitely makes for fun reading!!!!!!!!

        I'm glad you're entertained. As I stated earlier that's why I brought it back up.  Seriously, if SMITH can get a D1 PWI to come to Belk...............why can't..........

        Punchy if we played in Dick Price we'd fill it up.  Y'all can't even do that.  We'd both be wearing 58, and 64 out!

        Quit kissing the Aggies mutt butt.  They talk more than enough. They are TELLING US, but yet they haven't had a sell out since we quit playing, except MAYbe a couple of homecomings.  It's called fair negotiating.
        « Last Edit: March 25, 2020, 11:45:30 PM by Oldschoolram »

         

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