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Offline BrotherWiregrass

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2020, 04:47:41 PM »
This is my opinion. Basically, it boils down to economics. See, some southern states are trying to slowly trying get out of the HBCU business. They don't feel the need to fund them anymore.


Also, we need to stop focusing on enrollment, and start strategizing.
???? Someone please explain this ^^^ to me.  Enrollment = tuition which = $$$.  There is no strategy without $$$. :shrug:

I'll take quality over quantity on anyday. What is SCSU's endowment? See, this is why most of our schools are hemorrhaging. We are banking on students that might drop-off after semester.  :shrug:

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2020, 05:03:35 PM »
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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2020, 05:12:01 PM »
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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 07:16:20 PM »
As much as I would like to disagree, there is some merit to your statement.  I had a deacon to ask me where was I going to college?  I told him SSC.  He then told me that you can't get a job after you graduate.  Not only did I get a job, I obtained my MPA degree after getting old.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2020, 07:31:20 PM »
As much as I would like to disagree, there is some merit to your statement.  I had a deacon to ask me where was I going to college?  I told him SSC.  He then told me that you can't get a job after you graduate.  Not only did I get a job, I obtained my MPA degree after getting old.

I can agree with that on some levels but I can't hang my hat on it as being the definitive reason. Here's what makes me challenge that notion. Except for the problems at ECSU, which has been corrected, public HBCUs in NC have record enrollment.  If black kids are running for HBCUs, it seems they all would be suffering.  The problems at SCSU appears to be local.

Then look at the other HBCUs in SC? It makes no sense what so ever for your two private schools to be larger than your public school. The equation is upside down, you will not see that anywhere else in the country.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2020, 11:33:51 PM »
Oh no.  Are they going to leave the MEAC too? :no:
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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2020, 06:26:07 AM »
The problem here in Florida with it's only HBCU is that the FLBOG (Florida Board of Governors) has placed restrictions on growth at FAMU in the form of what kind of students they can accept and limiting enrollment. They effectively eliminated remedial courses that FAMU used to offer students who came in struggling in certain courses. Many of those students became the "diamond in the rough" student that excelled. They raised the admissions test scores, also. I see posts about students who are 3.8 and some 4.0 students who were turned away because of their test scores not meeting the standard. One student who has a 3.8 GPA made a 19 on the ACT, and the standard is 21. Also, they (FLBOG) restricted raising tuition rates at Florida universities. So, if say for instance the tuition rate at UF is $120, and the tuition rate at FAMU is $105, FAMU is restricted from raising the rate another $5  to $110 even though they would still be cheaper.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2020, 06:35:17 AM »
The problem here in Florida with it's only HBCU is that the FLBOG (Florida Board of Governors) has placed restrictions on growth at FAMU in the form of what kind of students they can accept and limiting enrollment. They effectively eliminated remedial courses that FAMU used to offer students who came in struggling in certain courses. Many of those students became the "diamond in the rough" student that excelled. They raised the admissions test scores, also. I see posts about students who are 3.8 and some 4.0 students who were turned away because of their test scores not meeting the standard. One student who has a 3.8 GPA made a 19 on the ACT, and the standard is 21. Also, they (FLBOG) restricted raising tuition rates at Florida universities. So, if say for instance the tuition rate at UF is $120, and the tuition rate at FAMU is $105, FAMU is restricted from raising the rate another $5  to $110 even though they would still be cheaper.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2020, 06:38:30 AM »
This is my opinion. Basically, it boils down to economics. See, some southern states are trying to slowly trying get out of the HBCU business. They don't feel the need to fund them anymore.


Also, we need to stop focusing on enrollment, and start strategizing.
???? Someone please explain this ^^^ to me.  Enrollment = tuition which = $$$.  There is no strategy without $$$. :shrug:

I'll take quality over quantity on anyday. What is SCSU's endowment? See, this is why most of our schools are hemorrhaging. We are banking on students that might drop-off after semester.  :shrug:
Again someone explain this to me.  What is a tangible measurement for schools to only choose students who will not drop out????  I had a high GPA when I went to A&M however it dropped the first semester because I did not have the same structure (Momma) I did in high school.  It wasn't until the Dean called her & she came to A&M and threaten my life that I got back on track.
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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2020, 11:58:22 AM »
A member of the SCSU BOT informed me that those were not true numbers and that HBCU Digest is just repeating what the local news reported which is not accurate.
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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2020, 12:13:52 PM »
A member of the SCSU BOT informed me that those were not true numbers and that HBCU Digest is just repeating what the local news reported which is not accurate.

That seems like one of those word games politicians us. "They are trying to defame us because the numbers are not right. It's  1001 instead of 997 defense. You see we are over 1000, therefore they are liars."

The real story is not the number but the dramatic decline in enrollment. Those numbers are always fluid, and tend to go downward after school starts.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2020, 12:18:05 PM »
The problem here in Florida with it's only HBCU is that the FLBOG (Florida Board of Governors) has placed restrictions on growth at FAMU in the form of what kind of students they can accept and limiting enrollment. They effectively eliminated remedial courses that FAMU used to offer students who came in struggling in certain courses. Many of those students became the "diamond in the rough" student that excelled. They raised the admissions test scores, also. I see posts about students who are 3.8 and some 4.0 students who were turned away because of their test scores not meeting the standard. One student who has a 3.8 GPA made a 19 on the ACT, and the standard is 21. Also, they (FLBOG) restricted raising tuition rates at Florida universities. So, if say for instance the tuition rate at UF is $120, and the tuition rate at FAMU is $105, FAMU is restricted from raising the rate another $5  to $110 even though they would still be cheaper.

I really don't have a problem with raising admission standards at state schools. That is why the state also funds a community college system.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2020, 12:22:28 PM »
I'm on the outside looking in. The exact number are semantics. The drop off or decline in enrollment should be case of concern.

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2020, 01:13:57 PM »
As much as I would like to disagree, there is some merit to your statement.  I had a deacon to ask me where was I going to college?  I told him SSC.  He then told me that you can't get a job after you graduate.  Not only did I get a job, I obtained my MPA degree after getting old.

I can agree with that on some levels but I can't hang my hat on it as being the definitive reason. Here's what makes me challenge that notion. Except for the problems at ECSU, which has been corrected, public HBCUs in NC have record enrollment.  If black kids are running for HBCUs, it seems they all would be suffering.  The problems at SCSU appears to be local.

Then look at the other HBCUs in SC? It makes no sense what so ever for your two private schools to be larger than your public school. The equation is upside down, you will not see that anywhere else in the country.

This is spot on! At A&T and other NC HBCUs we can’t build dorms fast enough. For some reason Black people have turned their backs on SCSU.

On would think enrollment from just the local community would be larger than a 1,000. What is going on ??

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Re: South Carolina St spring enrollment drops below 1,000
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2020, 04:55:30 PM »
The problem here in Florida with it's only HBCU is that the FLBOG (Florida Board of Governors) has placed restrictions on growth at FAMU in the form of what kind of students they can accept and limiting enrollment. They effectively eliminated remedial courses that FAMU used to offer students who came in struggling in certain courses. Many of those students became the "diamond in the rough" student that excelled. They raised the admissions test scores, also. I see posts about students who are 3.8 and some 4.0 students who were turned away because of their test scores not meeting the standard. One student who has a 3.8 GPA made a 19 on the ACT, and the standard is 21. Also, they (FLBOG) restricted raising tuition rates at Florida universities. So, if say for instance the tuition rate at UF is $120, and the tuition rate at FAMU is $105, FAMU is restricted from raising the rate another $5  to $110 even though they would still be cheaper.

Prove it.

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