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TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« on: November 12, 2019, 10:42:19 AM »
...AND SO IT BEGINS. IF YOU CAN'T WATCH IT LIVE, THEN PROGRAM YOUR DVRs AND RECORD IT. TOMORROW's LIVE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY WILL ENABLE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT AS TO THE LEVEL OF CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THE GOPers DON'T KNOW WHETHER TO s**t OR GO BLIND.  :lol: :lmao: :lol:

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White House infighting flares amid impeachment inquiry
 
A dispute erupts between the Mulvaney and Cipollone camps over how to counter House Democrats’ impeachment push

White House counsel Pat Cipollone, center, and acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, right, at the White House last year. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

By   Erica Werner, Josh Dawsey, Carol D. Leonnig and Rachael Bade

November 11 at 6:44 PM 

The White House’s bifurcated and disjointed response to Democrats’ impeachment inquiry has been fueled by a fierce West Wing battle between two of President Trump’s top advisers, and the outcome of the messy skirmish could be on full display this week, according to White House and congressional officials.

Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney has urged aides not to comply with the inquiry and blocked any cooperation with congressional Democrats. Top political aides at the Office of Management and Budget, which Mulvaney once led, have fallen in line with his defiant stance, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to talk freely about the behind-the-scenes developments.

Mulvaney’s office blames White House counsel Pat Cipollone for not doing more to stop other government officials from participating in the impeachment inquiry, as a number of State Department officials, diplomats and an aide to Vice President Pence have given sworn testimony to Congress.

Cipollone, meanwhile, has fumed that Mulvaney only made matters worse with his Oct. 17 news conference, when he publicly acknowledged a quid pro quo, essentially confirming Democrats’ accusations in front of television cameras and reporters. Cipollone did not want Mulvaney to hold the news conference, a message that was passed along to the acting chief of staff’s office, according to two senior Trump advisers, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. A Mulvaney aide said a team of White House lawyers prepared him for the news conference and never said he should not do it.

Here are key moments from acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney's remarks to reporters about Ukraine on Oct. 17. (Zach Purser Brown/The Washington Post)

Neither Mulvaney nor Cipollone has broad experience navigating a White House through such a tumultuous period. But their actions have contributed to the White House’s increasingly tenuous response to the impeachment inquiry, in which public hearings are set to begin Wednesday in the House. Despite the high stakes, the White House moved slowly to hire a staff specifically dedicated to working on the impeachment issue, a concern that was expressed to the White House by multiple GOP senators, Capitol Hill aides said.

“This will be the toughest political fight this White House has faced. They need to be sure they are totally focused and that all their fire is pointed outward — not at each other,” said Michael Steel, a GOP strategist who was a top aide to former House speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio).

Complicating matters, on Friday, the same day he defied a congressional subpoena to testify, Mulvaney sought to join a separation-of-powers lawsuit filed against Trump and the House leadership by a onetime deputy to former national security adviser John Bolton. The move infuriated Bolton allies, The Washington Post has reported, partly because Bolton and other national security aides viewed Mulvaney as a key architect in pressuring Ukraine to launch political investigations on behalf of Trump.

The Trump administration's shifting message on quid pro quo

While saying President Trump did not engage in a quid pro quo with Ukraine, Trump officials have caseated their remarks when asked about his Ukraine dealings. (JM Rieger/The Washington Post)

Mulvaney’s move to join the lawsuit baffled several administration officials, people familiar with the matter said. The lawsuit could have provided a legal basis for Mulvaney’s refusal to testify in the impeachment inquiry, but late Monday he withdrew, saying he will file his own suit to ask the courts to decide if senior Trump administration officials must testify in the impeachment inquiry.

The Office of Management and Budget has served as Mulvaney’s biggest bulwark, because it played a key role in blocking nearly $400 million in security aid to Ukraine over the summer. The OMB is led by a close Mulvaney ally, acting director Russell Vought, who has refused to cooperate with the impeachment inquiry, as have other political appointees at the agency. But the increasingly political nature of the OMB has rattled a number of high-level career staffers, and several have resigned in the past year, including one who announced his departure in the midst of the turmoil this summer.

Employees at the normally under-the-radar budget agency watched in dismay as political appointees at the OMB took the highly unusual step of overruling the concerns of career staffers to hold up the Ukraine military aid, according to multiple former agency officials who remain in touch with current employees and spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect career staffers.

“Everyone was freaked out because it so violated the norms of OMB,” said one former longtime career employee, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations. The impeachment inquiry now threatens to ensnare career staffers at the OMB, one of whom, Mark Sandy, was called to testify Friday but did not appear. A series of State Department and National Security Council witnesses have told impeachment investigators that the aid was held up as part of a quid pro quo to get Ukraine to announce investigations, including of Trump’s Democratic rival Joe Biden, but OMB staffers could fill in key details of what took place.

The White House denied the existence of any internal tensions.

“We are one team and we work well together. The palace intrigue stories are false and they need to stop,” White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in an email.

But Trump has complained about his legal team to White House officials and advisers in recent weeks, saying they need to be more aggressive and defend him more. Cipollone released a letter from Trump early last month saying the White House would not be cooperating with the impeachment inquiry. But a senior administration official said Cipollone since then has failed to do more to keep members of the administration in line.

“Those who have aligned with the president and followed the president’s instincts on not to cooperate have been successful and been that firewall,” said this official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. Cipollone, this person said, “has been pretty weak in ensuring people are on lockdown.”

At the same time, Trump has been complaining about Mulvaney, blaming him for his political troubles, and has toyed with the idea of replacing him, two officials said.

Another dispute between the Mulvaney and Cipollone camps emerged over the potential hiring of former congressman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) to be part of the president’s team defending against impeachment. Trump was looking for outspoken supporters, and Mulvaney advocated for hiring his former House colleague and longtime friend Gowdy, a former federal prosecutor turned Fox News personality.

But Cipollone was opposed. Ultimately, the Gowdy boomlet collapsed within a period of days last month as White House officials said federal lobbying rules could prevent him from starting until January.

Some Hill Republicans were not pleased and have accused Cipollone of being territorial behind the scenes. They wanted Gowdy, who led the GOP investigation of the terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, to lead the cross-examination for Trump in the Senate — a role Cipollone is said to want for himself.

“Each wants to be in charge of impeachment,” one Senate GOP aide said of the Mulvaney-Cipollone fight. “Cipollone seems more like he’s protecting his turf than anything else. … He doesn’t want any competition.” The aide spoke on the condition of anonymity to freely describe private concerns.

Some administration officials complain that Cipollone has not kept Mulvaney and other White House offices in the loop on key decisions. Cipollone’s office released the transcript of the president’s July 25 call with his Ukrainian counterpart — a move Mulvaney opposed, administration officials said. Neither the acting chief of staff nor some members of the White House press office knew ahead of time that was going to happen, the officials said.

Tensions between the two camps were inflamed when, in his Oct. 17 briefing to White House reporters, Mulvaney appeared to acknowledge that the president sought to withhold the U.S. aid to Ukraine as part of a quid pro quo. Mulvaney said the administration did not release the security assistance because Trump wanted Ukraine to first agree to investigate corruption, as well as a discredited theory that evidence of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election was fabricated. Mulvaney later issued a statement insisting that he had not confirmed a quid pro quo and that reporters had misinterpreted his words, which were televised.

The divisions within the administration, at a time when it should be presenting a united front against House Democrats, are serious enough that they have caught the attention of Senate Republicans, who are concerned that the administration is not properly prepared for a Senate impeachment trial that could start in January. The House is expected to pass articles of impeachment against Trump as soon as December, triggering a trial in the Senate.

“This impeachment trial is going to be here before the White House knows it, and they’re not even remotely prepared for it,” said the Senate GOP aide. “What they need desperately is leadership to get ready, but until Mulvaney and Cipollone put aside their petty squabbles and start working together, all they’ll have is tweets.”

This aide said GOP senators have been worried that the White House was moving too slowly to hire staffers specifically dedicated to working on the impeachment issue as the inquiry moves into its public phase. Multiple senators made this concern known to the White House, the aide said. Their concerns were finally alleviated last week with news that Pam Bondi, a former attorney general of Florida, and Tony Sayegh, a former Treasury Department spokesman, would join the administration to work on impeachment-related messaging and other issues.

“I think Pam Bondi will be very helpful,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), adding that the Senate is unlikely to remove the president. “Things are better now, I think. Pam will do a good job. They still need to build their legal team out some.”
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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2019, 01:40:14 PM »
https://live.washingtonpost.com/opinion-focus-with-eugene-robinson-20191112.htmlhttps://live.washingtonpost.com/opinion-focus-with-eugene-robinson-20191112.html

...BE SURE TO PROGARM YOUR DVRs. I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE MORE THAN A FEW OCCASIONS OF; "I DIDN'T SAY THAT" -OR- "THAT's NOT WHAT I MEANT".  :nod: :lmao: :nod:  YOU CAN THEN BE YOUR OWN JUDGE.

...AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE GOPers FEAR MOST; JUDGEMENT BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE TRUTH. :popcorn:
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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 02:02:01 PM »
https://live.washingtonpost.com/opinion-focus-with-eugene-robinson-20191112.htmlhttps://live.washingtonpost.com/opinion-focus-with-eugene-robinson-20191112.html

...BE SURE TO PROGARM YOUR DVRs. I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE MORE THAN A FEW OCCASIONS OF; "I DIDN'T SAY THAT" -OR- "THAT's NOT WHAT I MEANT".  :nod: :lmao: :nod:  YOU CAN THEN BE YOUR OWN JUDGE.

...AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE GOPers FEAR MOST; JUDGEMENT BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE TRUTH. :popcorn:

The real problem is most of these maggots will watch it, hear the clear testimony and still say he did nothing wrong.....despite the obvious truth of those present when these things all went down....they will not hear, believe nor interpret the facts nor truths....


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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 02:05:12 PM »
I'll be busy watching paint dry.
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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 02:13:07 PM »
I'll be busy watching paint dry.

You’ve been trained well.

The truth to you is like sunlight to Dracula.

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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 12:23:30 PM »
IT IS ON NOW IN OUR OPNS CTR; ON MSNBC, CNN AND FOX.  HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REALLY CONCENTRATE ON IT. TOO BUSY WITH WORK.  WILL WATCH IT TONIGHT.  :nod: :popcorn:
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2019, 12:25:51 PM »
TWO CAREER DIPLOMATS SPOKE EXTENSIVELY FROM THEIR PERSONAL NOTES RECOUNTING WHAT WAS SAID, BY WHOM AND WHAT THEY DID. THEY ARE NOT PARTISANS AND PROVED IT. THEY DID NOT FALL INTO ANY OF THE OH SO OBVIOUS TRAPS LAID BY THE GOPer COUNSELORS. THEY EVEN REVEALED INFORMAION ON A PREVIOUSLY IMKNOWN PHONE CALL BETWEEN TRUMP AND THE UKRAINIAN AMBASSADOR THAT THEY AGAIN TOOK COPIUOS NOTES ON, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CALL. THOSE WERE FIRST AND NOT SECOND HAND ONSERVATIONS. THE GOPers HAVE BEEN RELYING ON PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO FACTUAL OCCURENCES THAT THEY HAD DOCUMENTED.  QUID PRO QUO HAS BEEN PROVEN AND SUBSTANTIATED, OVER AND OVER AGIN BY VARIOUS SOURCES. IT A FACT AND IT DID OCCUR. A GOOD FIRST DAY FOR THE DEMS WHO HAVE PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT TRUMP COMMITTED AN IMPEACHABLE AND TREASON WORTHY OFFENSE FOR HIS OWN PERSOANAL GAIN. AGAIN, I BELIEVE HE WILL BE IMPEACHED IN THE HOUSE, BUT IT WILL NOT BE SUSTAINED IN THE SENATE. SO HE WILL REMAIN IN OFFICE. WHILE THIS MAY NOT FORCE HIM FROM OFFICE IT WILL HAVE THE DESIRED EFFECT OF INFORMING WITH UNDENIABLE PROOF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THE FACT THAT HE IS A LIAR AND A THEIF. AS A RESULT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET THIS AND REMEMBER IT COME ELECTION TIME IN JUST OVER 12 MONTHS FROM THIS DAY. :popcorn:
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 03:56:44 PM »
TWO CAREER DIPLOMATS SPOKE EXTENSIVELY FROM THEIR PERSONAL NOTES RECOUNTING WHAT WAS SAID, BY WHOM AND WHAT THEY DID. THEY ARE NOT PARTISANS AND PROVED IT. THEY DID NOT FALL INTO ANY OF THE OH SO OBVIOUS TRAPS LAID BY THE GOPer COUNSELORS. THEY EVEN REVEALED INFORMAION ON A PREVIOUSLY IMKNOWN PHONE CALL BETWEEN TRUMP AND THE UKRAINIAN AMBASSADOR THAT THEY AGAIN TOOK COPIUOS NOTES ON, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CALL. THOSE WERE FIRST AND NOT SECOND HAND ONSERVATIONS. THE GOPers HAVE BEEN RELYING ON PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO FACTUAL OCCURENCES THAT THEY HAD DOCUMENTED.  QUID PRO QUO HAS BEEN PROVEN AND SUBSTANTIATED, OVER AND OVER AGIN BY VARIOUS SOURCES. IT A FACT AND IT DID OCCUR. A GOOD FIRST DAY FOR THE DEMS WHO HAVE PROVEN BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT TRUMP COMMITTED AN IMPEACHABLE AND TREASON WORTHY OFFENSE FOR HIS OWN PERSOANAL GAIN. AGAIN, I BELIEVE HE WILL BE IMPEACHED IN THE HOUSE, BUT IT WILL NOT BE SUSTAINED IN THE SENATE. SO HE WILL REMAIN IN OFFICE. WHILE THIS MAY NOT FORCE HIM FROM OFFICE IT WILL HAVE THE DESIRED EFFECT OF INFORMING WITH UNDENIABLE PROOF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF THE FACT THAT HE IS A LIAR AND A THEIF. AS A RESULT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET THIS AND REMEMBER IT COME ELECTION TIME IN JUST OVER 12 MONTHS FROM THIS DAY. :popcorn:
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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 06:12:54 PM »
Still nothing.  You don't even know that the election is less than a year away.

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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 06:19:12 PM »
Still nothing.  You don't even know that the election is less than a year away.

YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING TO ME. DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT?  ...AND YOU MUST READ MY POSTS A LITTLE CLOSER.  IF YOU DID YOU'D HAVE SEEN MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING A YEAR FROM NOW.  ::)
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Re: TELEVISED IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BEGINS TOMORROW!
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2019, 08:31:19 AM »
DAY 2 OF THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS BEGINS IN 30 MINUTES. THE OUSTED AMBASADOR TO UKRAINE TESTIFIES. PERJAPS SHE WILL SAY SOMETHING THAT y04185 aka "THE NORTH KOREAN" PROXY WILL FIND OF INTEREST.  :popcorn:
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2019, 03:32:14 PM »
DAY 2 OF THE TESTIMONY WAS JUST COMPLETED.  YOVANOVITVH STATED: 'I WAS TERRIFIED THAT THE PRESIDENT WORLD TELL ANOTHER WORLD LEADER THAT I WAS "BAD NEWS" AND THAT BAD THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME'. 

WHAT KIND OF A CHIEF EXECUTIVE SAYS THAT TO ANOTHER CHIEF EXECUTIVE? 

THE ANSWER: A TRAITOROUS ONE.

CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE PUNDITS MAKE OF TODAY'S TESTIMONY.
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