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« Reply #75 on: July 22, 2019, 03:11:20 PM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

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« Reply #76 on: July 22, 2019, 04:37:10 PM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.
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« Reply #77 on: July 22, 2019, 10:31:30 PM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.

The MEAC was considered a Division 1 conference on June 8, 1978 by the NCAA. The MEAC was a Division 2 conference until June 1978.
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« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2019, 08:37:09 AM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.

The MEAC was considered a Division 1 conference on June 8, 1978 by the NCAA. The MEAC was a Division 2 conference until June 1978.

That may be true. But the majority of WSSU wins over A&T came after they became D1, while we were still D2.

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« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2019, 10:41:02 AM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.

please learn your history!!  the meac was not a "d1" conference when it was first founded, it began as a "d2" conference in 1970.  so clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

it wasn't until the '78-'79 school year that the meac went "d1" and even then, the conference didn't really adopt d1aa funding standards for another decade or so.

so get your facts straight cuz clearly you don't know what you're talking about.  so until the '78-'79 school year, both a&t and wssu were "d2".  furthermore, a&t never fully funded the fcs maximum number of scholarships until after coach broadway arrived in 2011.  when broadway took over, we only had "26" scholarships which is well "below" d2 standards...

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« Reply #80 on: July 23, 2019, 10:42:44 AM »
why does any of this matter. WSSU beat NCCU in 2020. Worry about winning the CIAA South in 2019. A&T shouldn't be on your radar

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« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2019, 03:10:49 PM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.

please learn your history!!  the meac was not a "d1" conference when it was first founded, it began as a "d2" conference in 1970.  so clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

it wasn't until the '78-'79 school year that the meac went "d1" and even then, the conference didn't really adopt d1aa funding standards for another decade or so.

so get your facts straight cuz clearly you don't know what you're talking about.  so until the '78-'79 school year, both a&t and wssu were "d2".  furthermore, a&t never fully funded the fcs maximum number of scholarships until after coach broadway arrived in 2011.  when broadway took over, we only had "26" scholarships which is well "below" d2 standards...

The year MEAC became  D1 was not my point. Who cares about that. My point was that WSSU wins over A&T was when we were D2 and A&T was D1. Those wins came after they becam D1 1979. And half of those games was in Winston-Salem. Every game had over 20,000 fans regardless of where it was played. So you can act like ya'll don't want to play us, but those 22,000 fans would say otherwise. So stop acting like you are above 20,000 plus for a game.
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« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2019, 03:52:21 PM »
A&T stopped playing Winston-Salem in 1970 the first time. It was because even A&T's bad teams would kill them, and nobody went to the games. It was only a basketball rivalry then. Many of the 37 games oleschool mentions came during those days.

The series resumed in 77
you do realize that a&t as a member of the meac did not go "d1" until 1979, correct?  so the vast majority of our wins over wssu came when both schools were "d2", not d1 vs. d2 as some of your fans allege...

Please stop trying to correct me with wrong information. A&T became a MEAC member in 1970. So every win WSSU had over A&T WAS D2 beating a D1 school. And all of WSSU wins in Wisnton_Salem was D1 visiting D2.

please learn your history!!  the meac was not a "d1" conference when it was first founded, it began as a "d2" conference in 1970.  so clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

it wasn't until the '78-'79 school year that the meac went "d1" and even then, the conference didn't really adopt d1aa funding standards for another decade or so.

so get your facts straight cuz clearly you don't know what you're talking about.  so until the '78-'79 school year, both a&t and wssu were "d2".  furthermore, a&t never fully funded the fcs maximum number of scholarships until after coach broadway arrived in 2011.  when broadway took over, we only had "26" scholarships which is well "below" d2 standards...

The year MEAC became  D1 was not my point. Who cares about that. My point was that WSSU wins over A&T was when we were D2 and A&T was D1. Those wins came after they becam D1 1979. And half of those games was in Winston-Salem. Every game had over 20,000 fans regardless of where it was played. So you can act like ya'll don't want to play us, but those 22,000 fans would say otherwise. So stop acting like you are above 20,000 plus for a game.

what is it about aggies not expressing any "outcry" to play wssu don't you understand?  and what is it about a&t collecting $300k or more from in state fbs/bcs schools such as ecu, unc charlotte, unc chapel hill, and duke don't you understand? 

obviously you don't realize that we make a "much larger profit" playing in state fbs/bcs schools than we do selling out aggie stadium, "even without paying a d2 team" a single dime.

so no, we don't miss selling out games against wssu due to lost "revenue" because we make far more revenue playing in state fbs schools.  why is it so difficult for you to understand that?

so let's be very clear about this.  "wssu needs a&t", but a&t does not need wssu!  ya'll only average less than 5k fans per game which is "laughable".  whereas a&t has "NEVER" in its modern day history averaged less than about 11k per game, and 11k is our absolute "worst" average.  last couple of years we've average more than 15k albeit 15k is not our highest average.

that's why there's no outcry from aggies to play wssu cuz we don't need wssu.  the revenue that we could make by playing wssu is "easily" surpassed by playing fbs/bcs "money games".  and quite frankly, we've beaten "3" of those fbs teams and it didn't cost us a dime that we didn't get compensated for.

and btw, the "only time" ya'll surpass 22k in attendance is when ya'll play a&t.  on the other hand, we surpass 22k at least once or twice every year "without" playing wssu... :popcorn:

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« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2019, 04:27:32 PM »
Well, Oldschoolaggie shut it down.  Read his lips Rams, "They ain't coming to WS."  Back to the topic.  Eagles and Rams games are always exciting regardless of attendance. Our games were often played after Homecoming in Winston but it still drew around 11,000 fans.  In Durham it will be an easy sell out of over 13,000 fans.  Games played in early September do better than games played after Homecoming.  I will advise you to get your ticket early and invest in reserve seating. 
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« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2019, 11:02:54 PM »
Well, Oldschoolaggie shut it down.  Read his lips Rams, "They ain't coming to WS."  Back to the topic.  Eagles and Rams games are always exciting regardless of attendance. Our games were often played after Homecoming in Winston but it still drew around 11,000 fans.  In Durham it will be an easy sell out of over 13,000 fans.  Games played in early September do better than games played after Homecoming.  I will advise you to get your ticket early and invest in reserve seating.



No he didn't. Notice that he ignored the compromise where they won't come to Winston.  THEY SCARED! He also mistyped or Trumped about getting over 22 at their games. Look up their attendance for ALL their home games since 2011.  Then look at the last 5 games vs us.

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« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2019, 08:47:17 AM »
Well, Oldschoolaggie shut it down.  Read his lips Rams, "They ain't coming to WS."  Back to the topic.  Eagles and Rams games are always exciting regardless of attendance. Our games were often played after Homecoming in Winston but it still drew around 11,000 fans.  In Durham it will be an easy sell out of over 13,000 fans.  Games played in early September do better than games played after Homecoming.  I will advise you to get your ticket early and invest in reserve seating.

Eagle-pride, you are correct. I should read his lips. This thread is about us. I have always enjoyed any sport event with NCCU and never had to worry about fighting if we won. Can't say that about that other school. Central has always had more class than that other school in Greensboro. At least your school can see the importance of the history and tradition over the financials. College sports is for entertainment... very few makes money doing it. Our game next year is going to be huge. People from both camps will start talking about this game this year... we already are.  :clap:
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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2019, 10:46:41 AM »
Well, Oldschoolaggie shut it down.  Read his lips Rams, "They ain't coming to WS."  Back to the topic.  Eagles and Rams games are always exciting regardless of attendance. Our games were often played after Homecoming in Winston but it still drew around 11,000 fans.  In Durham it will be an easy sell out of over 13,000 fans.  Games played in early September do better than games played after Homecoming.  I will advise you to get your ticket early and invest in reserve seating.



No he didn't. Notice that he ignored the compromise where they won't come to Winston.  THEY SCARED! He also mistyped or Trumped about getting over 22 at their games. Look up their attendance for ALL their home games since 2011.  Then look at the last 5 games vs us.

Well, Oldschoolaggie shut it down.  Read his lips Rams, "They ain't coming to WS."  Back to the topic.  Eagles and Rams games are always exciting regardless of attendance. Our games were often played after Homecoming in Winston but it still drew around 11,000 fans.  In Durham it will be an easy sell out of over 13,000 fans.  Games played in early September do better than games played after Homecoming.  I will advise you to get your ticket early and invest in reserve seating.



No he didn't. Notice that he ignored the compromise where they won't come to Winston.  THEY SCARED! He also mistyped or Trumped about getting over 22 at their games. Look up their attendance for ALL their home games since 2011.  Then look at the last 5 games vs us.

the only reason our sellouts reflect 21.5k is because thats our "stated" capacity.  but we pack well over 21.5k into aggie stadium when we sellout. 

besides, how many times have wssu had over 21.5k in attendance at bowman-gray other than when a&t came to town?  now answer that question "mr. 4k average attendance".   :lmao:

secondly, go get some other fcs team to come to winston!!  oh, i forgot.  won't no other fcs team come to doggone winston!!  so you know dayum well a&t ain't coming to your barn where we have nothing whatsoever to gain by doing so.

so if we're so scared, why did ya'll turn down our offer to play us at aggie stadium for $65k, but you gladly accepted central's offer to play them "in durham" with no return game in winston for $50k which is $15k "less" than what we offered!!  why did ya'll do that?  CUZ YA'LL SCURD TO PLAY THE AGGIES!!  TOO DOGGONE AFRAID YA'LL WILL GET "EMBARRASSED" BY THE AGGIES!!   :lmao:
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« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2019, 11:55:33 AM »
Damn he brought all kind of receipts and return transactions....

So if I read that correctly, WSSU took a road game vs a MEAC  school for $15K less than what another MEAC school offered?


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« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2019, 12:06:22 PM »
Damn he brought all kind of receipts and return transactions....

So if I read that correctly, WSSU took a road game vs a MEAC  school for $15K less than what another MEAC school offered?

EXACTLY. They told us they won't play A&T unless it's a home and home. Laughable

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« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2019, 02:55:37 PM »
Well, based on what one of my senior citizen neighbors told me who attended W-S Teachers College A&T should have always beat TC in football given that they only had 500 students (in teacher education) with 400 of them being females. While A&T has always had many more students and men to choose from majoring in farming and tech. I guess basketball is different when you only needed 5 players on the court at one time. So, considering all it is a wonder WSSU and other teacher oriented schools won anything against the larger schools like NCCU and NC A&T.  :tiptoe:

 

 

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