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Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« on: July 16, 2019, 02:56:16 AM »
Why do some people insist on saying that 2008 tornado that hit downtown Atlanta had nothing to do with as a determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome when there is clear proof in the feasibility study that was done to renovate with an entire new roof of the Georgia Dome versus building a new stadium???  The report doesn't have to say tornado for one to see that the cable roof of the Georgia Dome was a major item of concern.  When the cantilever columns that supported the cable roof started to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction, it was definitely one of those 'oh sh!t' moments in the Georgia Dome.  Plain and simple, structural supported roof section are not supposed to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction. That's way to much stress and strain on steel columns. Bolts connecting the columns to their concrete base could have easily sheared off.

Feasibility Study:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.atlantaga.gov/home/showdocument%3Fid%3D7167&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj9zpD06bjjAhWOKM0KHcwSDHUQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1E5Uk5okaCqb8yJz3yaLsw

News Article:

http://www.designcurial.com/news/gwcc-unveils-georgia-dome-feasibility-study-proposals-by-populous

Clear evidence that some us don't like to read reports that concerns the future development of our cities and states.  Also, the report was completed in 2010, which means they had to have started looking at this two years ago in 2008.
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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes Stadium
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2019, 03:08:36 AM »
Why do some people insist on saying that 2008 tornado that hit downtown Atlanta had nothing to with as a determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome when there is clear proof in the feasibility study that done to renovate with an entire new roof the Georgia Dome versus the building a new stadium???  The report doesn't have to say tornado for one to see that the cable roof of the Georgia Dome was a major items of concern.  When the cantilever columns that supported the cable roof started to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction, it was definitely one of those 'oh sh!t' moments in the Georgia Dome.  Plain and simple, structural supported roof section are not supposed to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction. That's way to much stress and strain on steel columns.

Feasibility Study:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.atlantaga.gov/home/showdocument%3Fid%3D7167&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj9zpD06bjjAhWOKM0KHcwSDHUQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1E5Uk5okaCqb8yJz3yaLsw

News Article:

http://www.designcurial.com/news/gwcc-unveils-georgia-dome-feasibility-study-proposals-by-populous

Clear evidence that some us don't like to read reports that concerns the future development of our cities and states.  Also, the report was completed in 2010, which means they had to have started looking at this two years ago in 2008.
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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes Stadium
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2019, 03:37:16 AM »
They look at replacing the roof without the retractable roof section versus replacing the roof with the retractable roof section. 

Renovated roof without retractable roof section - $394 million

Renovated roof with retractable roof section - $860 million, which was $88 million less than a new stadium.

It's not rocket science to see that the impact of that tornado in 2008 was a major determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome. 

The big difference in the Georgia Dome versus the Superdome, the Superdome's roof would need way more than 150 miles per hour wind force to make its super-structure (structural steel) move, which is why the $450 million that is being spent to renovate it is way more feasible than building an entire new stadium that's upward of like $1.2 billion.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_87d2592b-2b7e-5b66-a18c-323e36ce0bee.html
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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2019, 06:48:43 AM »
I had to post this since one of my knucklehead frat brothers from Atlanta tried to tell me something different while attending my little cousin's wedding.  It's ashame Black folks don't like to read reports in order to extrapolate the real reason why certain decisions are made.

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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2019, 08:32:07 AM »
They look at replacing the roof without the retractable roof section versus replacing the roof with the retractable roof section. 

Renovated roof without retractable roof section - $394 million

Renovated roof with retractable roof section - $860 million, which was $88 million less than a new stadium.

It's not rocket science to see that the impact of that tornado in 2008 was a major determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome. 

The big difference in the Georgia Dome versus the Superdome, the Superdome's roof would need way more than 150 miles per hour wind force to make its super-structure (structural steel) move, which is why the $450 million that is being spent to renovate it is way more feasible than building an entire new stadium that's upward of like $1.2 billion.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_87d2592b-2b7e-5b66-a18c-323e36ce0bee.html
:tup: That answers a lot of questions I had about building a new dome in NOLA vs renovations

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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »
They look at replacing the roof without the retractable roof section versus replacing the roof with the retractable roof section. 

Renovated roof without retractable roof section - $394 million

Renovated roof with retractable roof section - $860 million, which was $88 million less than a new stadium.

It's not rocket science to see that the impact of that tornado in 2008 was a major determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome. 

The big difference in the Georgia Dome versus the Superdome, the Superdome's roof would need way more than 150 miles per hour wind force to make its super-structure (structural steel) move, which is why the $450 million that is being spent to renovate it is way more feasible than building an entire new stadium that's upward of like $1.2 billion.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_87d2592b-2b7e-5b66-a18c-323e36ce0bee.html
:tup: That answers a lot of questions I had about building a new dome in NOLA vs renovations

Most, if not all decisions are made based on what is more feasible.  The Superdome was a well engineered facility that has benefitted the State and New Orleans 100 times over. Once they remove the ramps and replace them with escalators and elevators, the Superdome should have more seating capacity, unless they decide to use the additional area for the additional suites that they are proposing.  Supposedly, they are also looking to install window glass exterior to some parts of the Superdome so that the fans can view downtown New Orleans/Central Business District (CBD) while attending a game or event.  This should make the Superdome a competitive venue for the next 50 years, whereas in Georgia, the last bond payment for the Georgia Dome was being made at the same time when the demolition of it started.  IMO, that was a complete waste of taxpayers monies.  Luckily, Georgia has a much better economy than Louisiana to absorb the wasted cost.
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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2019, 09:06:48 AM »
They look at replacing the roof without the retractable roof section versus replacing the roof with the retractable roof section. 

Renovated roof without retractable roof section - $394 million

Renovated roof with retractable roof section - $860 million, which was $88 million less than a new stadium.

It's not rocket science to see that the impact of that tornado in 2008 was a major determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome. 

The big difference in the Georgia Dome versus the Superdome, the Superdome's roof would need way more than 150 miles per hour wind force to make its super-structure (structural steel) move, which is why the $450 million that is being spent to renovate it is way more feasible than building an entire new stadium that's upward of like $1.2 billion.

https://www.nola.com/news/business/article_87d2592b-2b7e-5b66-a18c-323e36ce0bee.html
:tup: That answers a lot of questions I had about building a new dome in NOLA vs renovations

Most, if not all decisions are made based on what is more feasible.  The Superdome was a well engineered facility that has benefitted the State and New Orleans 100 times over. Once they remove the ramps and replace them with escalators and elevators, the Superdome should have more seating capacity, unless they decide to use the additional area for the additional suites that they are proposing.  Supposedly, they are also looking to install window glass exterior to some parts of the Superdome so that the fans can view downtown New Orleans/Central Business District (CBD) while attending a game or event.  This should make the Superdome a competitive venue for the next 50 years, whereas in Georgia, the last bond payment for the Georgia Dome was being made at the same time when the demolition of it started.  IMO, that was a complete waste of taxpayers monies.  Luckily, Georgia has a much better economy than Louisiana to absorb the wasted cost.
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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 02:40:13 PM »
Why do some people insist on saying that 2008 tornado that hit downtown Atlanta had nothing to with as a determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome when there is clear proof in the feasibility study that was done to renovate with an entire new roof of the Georgia Dome versus building a new stadium???  The report doesn't have to say tornado for one to see that the cable roof of the Georgia Dome was a major item of concern.  When the cantilever columns that supported the cable roof started to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction, it was definitely one of those 'oh sh!t' moments in the Georgia Dome.  Plain and simple, structural supported roof section are not supposed to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction. That's way to much stress and strain on steel columns. Bolts connecting the columns to their concrete base could have easily sheared off.

Feasibility Study:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.atlantaga.gov/home/showdocument%3Fid%3D7167&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj9zpD06bjjAhWOKM0KHcwSDHUQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1E5Uk5okaCqb8yJz3yaLsw

News Article:

http://www.designcurial.com/news/gwcc-unveils-georgia-dome-feasibility-study-proposals-by-populous

Clear evidence that some us don't like to read reports that concerns the future development of our cities and states.  Also, the report was completed in 2010, which means they had to have started looking at this two years ago in 2008.

 :shrug: why does the reason it was built matter?

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Re: Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 05:04:54 PM »
Why do some people insist on saying that 2008 tornado that hit downtown Atlanta had nothing to with as a determining factor for replacing the Georgia Dome when there is clear proof in the feasibility study that was done to renovate with an entire new roof of the Georgia Dome versus building a new stadium???  The report doesn't have to say tornado for one to see that the cable roof of the Georgia Dome was a major item of concern.  When the cantilever columns that supported the cable roof started to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction, it was definitely one of those 'oh sh!t' moments in the Georgia Dome.  Plain and simple, structural supported roof section are not supposed to sway 3 to 4 feet in each direction. That's way to much stress and strain on steel columns. Bolts connecting the columns to their concrete base could have easily sheared off.

Feasibility Study:

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.atlantaga.gov/home/showdocument%3Fid%3D7167&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj9zpD06bjjAhWOKM0KHcwSDHUQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1E5Uk5okaCqb8yJz3yaLsw

News Article:

http://www.designcurial.com/news/gwcc-unveils-georgia-dome-feasibility-study-proposals-by-populous

Clear evidence that some us don't like to read reports that concerns the future development of our cities and states.  Also, the report was completed in 2010, which means they had to have started looking at this two years ago in 2008.

 :shrug: why does the reason it was built matter?

Because so many Failcon fans think different. LOL!!!
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