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Offline BrotherWiregrass

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Re: A serious question for the posters on here....
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2019, 06:59:09 PM »
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  killings, rapes, assaults, gangs, drug dealers, homeless people, liquor stores, predatory lenders, renegade police officers, unemployment/low wage jobs, and unwed pregnancies 

Now, why does take place in ever inner-city? I can go to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile, and see the same thing.  Again, we need to do a better job of understanding economics.


Again, when a city have only 10,000 people, and forty churches. Yes, that picture doesn't look to good.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2019, 07:02:59 PM »
There you go thinking again. 

You’re a joke.

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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2019, 07:06:52 PM »
I see. I'm heading down a slippy slope.


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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2019, 07:08:17 PM »
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  killings, rapes, assaults, gangs, drug dealers, homeless people, liquor stores, predatory lenders, renegade police officers, unemployment/low wage jobs, and unwed pregnancies 

Now, why does take place in ever inner-city? I can go to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile, and see the same thing.  Again, we need to do a better job of understanding economics.


Again, when a city have only 10,000 people, and forty churches. Yes, that picture doesn't look to good.

I guess you can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

You can also be in church, but not part of it.  What do you have to say about those people?

If religion isn’t your thing fine, but unnecessary to trash their beliefs.

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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2019, 07:13:45 PM »


Now, why does take place in ever inner-city? I can go to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile, and see the same thing.  Again, we need to do a better job of understanding economics.

Again, when a city have only 10,000 people, and forty churches. Yes, that picture doesn't look to good.

Huh!!  :shrug:  Why not good lookin about it?  Again, what does having an abundance of churches have to do with understanding economics?

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2019, 07:22:34 PM »
Are you defining the church as a building or a group of people who come together for a common spiritual cause or goal? ???

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Now, why does take place in ever inner-city? I can go to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile, and see the same thing.  Again, we need to do a better job of understanding economics.

Again, when a city have only 10,000 people, and forty churches. Yes, that picture doesn't look to good.

Huh!!  :shrug:  Why not good lookin about it?  Again, what does having an abundance of churches have to do with understanding economics?


Curious question? My question was, Do we have too many churches in our respective communities?  Que82 came with a answer, and I gave a reply.

But, since, we are on the topics of economics. How much of the money given on Sunday is recycled back  into the community? I have seen people take their bill money, and put in the collection plate.


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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2019, 07:32:16 PM »
Curious question? My question was, Do we have too many churches in our respective communities?  Que82 came with a answer, and I gave a reply.

But, since, we are on the topics of economics. How much of the money given on Sunday is recycled back  into the community? I have seen people take their bill money, and put in the collection plate.

You brought up economics in your second post in this thread. I don't know how much money is recycled back into the community, and I don't think people putting their bill money in the collection plate is a wide spread practice.

No, I don't think there are too many churches in the Black American communities.

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2019, 07:48:42 PM »
BW, I'm not sure about other church groups, but our church adopted the undeserved under resourced community of Ft. Pierce, FL. We partner with other churches and organizations in the community to feed and cloth the homeless, medical assistance and education for those who need it, and youth outreach with a program called END-IT (Everybody Not Doing It). We provide monetary support and physical support through volunteering. We are a non-religious non-denominational non-traditional church group teaching chapter-by-chapter book-by-book. We don't pass a collection plate. Your giving is between you and God. We don't have membership rolls where you HAVE to join. You're a member if you show up for services. We have several ministries headed by ordained pastors that serve various functions. We have no bishops, Reverends, right Reverends, preachers, deacons, or deaconesses.

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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2019, 11:47:46 PM »
No I do not think we have to many churches.  To many stores that sell alcohol maybe, but not churches. 
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Now, why does take place in ever inner-city? I can go to Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile, and see the same thing.  Again, we need to do a better job of understanding economics.

Again, when a city have only 10,000 people, and forty churches. Yes, that picture doesn't look to good.

Huh!!  :shrug:  Why not good lookin about it?  Again, what does having an abundance of churches have to do with understanding economics?


Curious question? My question was, Do we have too many churches in our respective communities?  Que82 came with a answer, and I gave a reply.

But, since, we are on the topics of economics. How much of the money given on Sunday is recycled back  into the community? I have seen people take their bill money, and put in the collection plate.
I can't speak for all churches but I can speak for mine.  We do a lot for the community which is why our church grew from about 400 in 1991 to over 6000 now.  We spend about 7k a month helping people with their utility.  We provide groceries for over 100 families a week from our food pantry.  We own about 13 housed in the neighborhood that we maintain and rent to needed families who pay between 150 -300 dollars a month (no utilities).  We give about 16k to Benedict and 12k to Morris College annually.  We paid/pay taxes on elderly persons home when they can't so the city won't foreclose on their home.  We support a church in Africa.  We serve breakfast every Sunday morning and no one is turned away.  On MLK day we drive the bus and pick up the homeless, have a formal meal for them with real china because they are our "special guest, provide them with free hair cuts/styles, free clothes and free heath checkups.  We do minor repairs for elderly homes owners, build handicap ramps and cut grass free of charge.  That's just to name a few.  We are not a begging church, we don't sell diners or wash cars and we don't ask people neglect their homes for the church.  We are totally transparent and have a professional audit by a CPA annually. So I guess as someone stated if our doors close we might be missed. 
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2019, 03:16:40 AM »
When  your historic churches are closing because of declining membership, and the community is dotted with tiny churches with a hand full of members, I would say the answer is yes. Church has become fashionable fad for many people. It's about the flash, -the show. If it were about god, those people would attend one of the established churches struggling to stay open and focus on their religious growth.  But in today's society, it's about th good looking preacher, who can dance across the stage, and spin words better than a Maytag on the final cycle.  Then there is the  flashy choir, who's angelic sound  can cause the angels to asend from heaven. For some it the  cathedral with the sound and lights that could put any performing arts center to shame.

Everybody wants to be a preacher these days because they know that is where the money is. All you have to do is gather a few  black folk together and call yourself a man of god, and they will automatically throw money at your feet and won't even question what you are doing with it.


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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2019, 07:53:32 AM »
what historic church is closing?

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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2019, 08:07:36 AM »
what historic church is closing?

It seems most have declining membership. It's all about the new,  flashy  with the good entertainment. There is nothing wrong with that if that is what you are into, but folk should stop lying by saying god is their motivation for being there. If that were the case, why do people jump ship and change churches the moment they get mad at someone? You are not supposed to be there for man. I can understand leaving if you don't like the interpretation of the scripture, but all that other stuff is pure foolishness.

If it is not for the pursuit of wealth, all those little churches springing up are because of people not  get along with one another at another church.

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« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2019, 09:37:44 AM »
what historic church is closing?

It seems most have declining membership. It's all about the new,  flashy  with the good entertainment. There is nothing wrong with that if that is what you are into, but folk should stop lying by saying god is their motivation for being there. If that were the case, why do people jump ship and change churches the moment they get mad at someone? You are not supposed to be there for man. I can understand leaving if you don't like the interpretation of the scripture, but all that other stuff is pure foolishness.

If it is not for the pursuit of wealth, all those little churches springing up are because of people not  get along with one another at another church.
How would you know???? You don't go to any church historic or shiny entertainment. ::)  People are fickle just like you and the other Onnidan church haters. Some are good and some are bad.  Y'all are all about live and let live unless it involves church folk.  You are against judging gays, transgenders and whoever else is you flavor of the month but bring up the church and all the gavels come out.  Some Onnidan folks are some of the biggest hypocrites in the world.  ::)  Has anyone else ever noticed that the church haters on here never have anything positive to say about the church and paint all with the same broad brush????? That's why anytime Capler and a few others make a statement about the church its goes in one ear and straight out the other. ::) 
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