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Trump Says ‘I’d Take It’ if Russia Again Offered Dirt on Opponent :o

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/12/us/politics/trump-russia-fbi.html

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Trump Says ‘I’d Take It’ if Russia Again Offered Dirt on Opponent
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2019, 12:00:12 AM »
The POTUS should be impeached for inviting a foreign power to interfere with our election.  I do not understand why neither party is moving to remove him from office.

Congress has abnegated its responsibilities for protecting us, the Constitution and the country from the most unAmerican President to have ever held the office. 

Trump is antithetical to the concept of democracy/democratic republic.  He wants to be king, and the people who still call themselves Republicans no longer believe in our democratic republic either.


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The POTUS should be impeached for inviting a foreign power to interfere with our election.  I do not understand why neither party is moving to remove him from office.

Congress has abnegated its responsibilities for protecting us, the Constitution and the country from the most unAmerican President to have ever held the office. 

Trump is antithetical to the concept of democracy/democratic republic.  He wants to be king, and the people who still call themselves Republicans no longer believe in our democratic republic either.

WHAT DAW912 SAID!!!

Certainly applies to y04 and Olds..t.
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OS is waiting for an article to cut and paste or forming a deflection to do a "what about" with Clintons or Obama.

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The best part of this story is that republicans have shown you who they are, they ONLY care about power.  :popcorn:
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Are there two posters with a user name with "wiregrass" in it? The more recent "wiregrass" posts don't seem to have the same political bent as the older "wiregrass" posts.

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It will get perp walked back like all of his crap is....

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Are there two posters with a user name with "wiregrass" in it? The more recent "wiregrass" posts don't seem to have the same political bent as the older "wiregrass" posts.

I asked him directly.

Up to him to address it.

But my question remains...


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Did y'all see Hannity last night?

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

He's complaining that Chuck Todd asking the question was a "set up."
 :lmao:

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I guess it was a "perjury trap," also.

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Then Hannity said that #Loser45's response was a trap for the media so they would over-react.   :crazy:

WOW!!!

Talk about logical pretzels!!!   :shrug:


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Did y'all see Hannity last night?

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

He's complaining that Chuck Todd asking the question was a "set up."
 :lmao:

 :lmao:

I guess it was a "perjury trap," also.

 :lmao:

 :lmao:

Then Hannity said that #Loser45's response was a trap for the media so they would over-react.   :crazy:

WOW!!!

Talk about logical pretzels!!!   :shrug:


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He did not say he would take "dirt"....Well we know Hillary already participated in such a act. As far as we know Trump has not.....

Hillary Clinton spun the Russia collusion story upon her loss. Heck, she was blabbing about Russia in the last debate with candidate Donald Trump in October of 2016.

Hillary Clinton employed Glenn Simpson’s Fusion GPS:

In an interview with NBC News, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says she first received the supposedly incriminating information she brought to Trump Tower — describing alleged tax evasion and donations to Democrats — from Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS owner, who had been hired to conduct research in a New York federal court case. [Emphasis added.]

A source with firsthand knowledge of the matter confirmed that the firm’s research had been provided to Veselnitskaya as part of the case, which involved alleging money laundering by a Russian company called Prevezon.

Now, Trey Gowdy is asserting that Sydney Blumenthal did the Steele Dossier fact checking. Ace is right about this:

…I think, in the fullness of time, we will find out that Blumenthal wasn’t used to corroborate Steele’s dossier, but that Steele was used to (fake) corroborate Blumenthal’s dossier.

But let’s remember who really ran this operation: Hillary Clinton. This is the lady who got an innocent man jailed for a video to cover for her decision to let Americans die in Benghazi so her nefarious plans didn’t see the light of day. Clinton lied and lied more. She’s not known for having any particular sensitivities to the truth.

All paths lead back to Hillary Clinton. And all paths that lead to her, lead to President Obama who presided over the executive branch that was using FBI, CIA, and DOJ power to use the FISC court to investigate her political rivals.

Watergate was a drop of water. This is an ocean of corruption.

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The Steele Dossier, Hillary Clinton’s Malignant Gift to America

By DAVID FRENCH

March 27, 2019 3:31 PM
 
Hillary Clinton at a “Get Out the Vote” rally in Concord, N.H., February 6, 2016.   (

The ‘salacious and unverified’ documents invaded the body politic like a cancer.
The Mueller investigation has concluded, and Mueller’s declaration has now entered the public record: “The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” But it’s worth reflecting on how the contrary view — the firm conviction that Trump did coordinate with Russia — became so deeply embedded in the hearts and minds of millions of Americans. And it’s worth reflecting on why another set of Americans could look at actual, troubling evidence of Russian contacts and simply not care at all.

The answer is complex, but at its heart is a set of documents compiled into a collection known as the “Steele dossier.” The dossier, characterized by James Comey under oath as “salacious and unverified,” consisted of opposition research compiled by a former British intelligence officer and commissioned by the Hillary Clinton campaign. Taken as whole, it undermined the credibility of American intelligence agencies, corrupted elements of the media, and distorted the public debate. It may well be one of the most malignant documents in modern American history.

I’m not going to link to the dossier, but it’s worth remembering its core claim. As explained in this December analysis in Lawfare, the document not only contained claims that Russia possessed lurid, compromising information on Donald Trump, it also made the sensational allegation that there existed a “well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [Trump and his associates] and the Russian leadership,” including an “intelligence exchange [that] had been running between them for at least 8 years.” The very existence of this allegation detonated like a bomb in the American body politic.

It had an obvious distorting effect on the intelligence community and parts of the American government. To be clear, I believe that the Trump-Russia investigation would have existed even without the dossier — I’m with Trey Gowdy on that point. As Devin Nunes wrote in his famous February 2018 memorandum alleging FISA abuse, information about George Papadopoulos triggered the opening of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016. Moreover, the multiplicity of problematic Trump-team contacts with Russians or Russian operatives justified an investigation regardless of the dossier’s contents or the dossier’s use by the FBI.

The dossier was used to form a crucial part of the Carter Page FISA-warrant applications, however: The Nunes memo notes that “Deputy Director McCabe testified . . . that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the dossier information.” In addition, elements of the dossier made it to lawmakers including Harry Reid and John McCain, and the FBI ultimately even briefed then-president-elect Trump about its contents. While the summary it provided Trump is still largely redacted, it is easy to imagine how the existence of such a document could enrage the president.

I urge you to read Chuck Ross’s well-reported account of the comprehensive efforts to “seed the dossier with reporters and government officials.” The efforts were in fact so comprehensive — and the existence of its allegations such an open secret with the press — that I even heard about it in Tennessee during the later stages of the campaign. I was flat-out told that there was evidence Trump had been “compromised” by Russian intelligence.

NOW WATCH: 'House Panel to Move Forward with Vote to Hold Barr, Ross in Contempt'

House Panel to Move Forward with Vote to Hold Barr, Ross in Contempt
Salacious rumor-mongering is par for the course in politics. I’ve heard the wildest stories about even the most staid politicians. And when politicians aren’t staid, well, there are no boundaries. To this day, there are folks lurking around the dark quarters of the Internet absolutely convinced that the Clintons are responsible for a string of murders in Arkansas.

But even in the face of widespread rumors, responsible journalists — or journalists who aspire to responsibility — do not print the rumor, at least not without verifying or debunking it. They should not print the rumor even if they know that law enforcement is looking into it.

Let’s try a hypothetical. Imagine if you’re a reporter and you know that local police are investigating a wild claim against a prominent local figure. You’ve started to look into the claim yourself, but so far everything you’ve learned contradicts the allegations. Do you dump it into the public domain anyway, heedless of the impact on the public or the person?

Well, if you’re BuzzFeed, that’s exactly what you do. While it may well be newsworthy that the FBI is looking into claims that Trump is “compromised,” there’s a vast difference between that factual report and just tossing a raw opposition-research file into the public square and telling people to “make up their own minds.”

That makes no sense. None. Between taking kids to soccer practice and dance lessons, parents aren’t able to determine whether Michael Cohen went to Prague. As I wrote at the time, “individual Americans aren’t free-standing intelligence agencies, ready and able to investigate alleged Russian operations in Moscow.” If a journalist hears a claim, he should investigate. Not punt to the public.

BuzzFeed’s decision had two immediate effects. First, it demonstrated the extent to which an influential media outlet would depart from best practices when it possessed negative allegations against Trump. Second, the instant the claims were published, millions of Americans became convinced they were true. Combine the recent pain of a shocking electoral loss, Russia’s intervention in the campaign to help Trump and sow chaos generally, Trump’s incredibly odd behavior toward Putin, and the emerging reports (some overblown) of unusual contacts between Trump’s team and Russians or Russian assets, and Democrats were primed to believe the worst. Moreover, the dossier’s memo formats, which looked like movie versions of intelligence reports, enhanced their public credibility. They were official-looking.

And so we were off to the races. An odd sort of consensus developed on the left and the right. In essence, it was this: The dossier is the scandal. On the left, a kind of blind faith emerged that the purpose and ultimate inevitable outcome of the Mueller investigation were to prove the core claims (if not all the specifics) of the dossier. People weren’t singing songs to Mueller with the expectation and hope that he’d simply lay out the facts. They believed that they already knew the facts, it was up to Mueller to come through with the proof.

On the right, when the dossier became the scandal, that meant that misconduct — even lies about contacts with Russians or Russian assets — that fell far short of the dossier’s grandiose claims was treated simply as no big deal. If a meeting with a Russian lawyer with the intention of getting damaging information about Hillary Clinton or alleged efforts to establish back-channel communications with WikiLeaks through Roger Stone fell far short of the dossier’s claims, then they were nothing to worry about — a distraction from the “real” scandal of the “Russia hoax.”

Moreover, a veritable industry sprang up that attempted to tie the entire Trump-Russia investigation to the dossier, to somehow prove that absent the dossier, there never would have been a comprehensive investigation of Russian contacts with the Trump campaign, much less a special counsel. Troubling conduct and contacts by Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, and others were swept aside as meaningless. The dossier was the chief weapon in the effort to delegitimize the investigation itself, and it was a potent weapon indeed.

For all of their other accomplishments, the Clintons are leaving American public life with a legacy of lies and lawlessness. Bill Clinton’s shameless behavior, perjury, and obstruction of justice led to his impeachment. Hillary’s serial deceptions and her grotesque mishandling of classified information led to her defeat. The dossier, however, in its sheer negative impact on American public life, may be her most infamous “achievement.” Her campaign — and ultimately Hillary herself — bears responsibility for the chaos it sowed.

But key members of the media and the government share in that responsibility. The dossier redefined the debate. It was a cancer, and it sickened American culture and politics. Our nation is weaker because that document entered the bloodstream of the body politic.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/steele-dossier-hillary-clinton-campaign-trump-russia-investigation/
 

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First the steele dossier did not involve foreign interference by a foreign country- the work was done by an AMERICAN company who hired steele- AND STEELE DID REPORT HIS FINDINGS TO THE FBI.  What you can not do if use info from a foreign country especially a foreign enemy and use it in American election- because this is not opposition research this become INTELLIGNECE. sO THE hILLARY thing dealt with an America company who hired a foreign agent who reported his findigs to the FBI- trump wants to deal with a foreign company with foreign agents and even worse, foreign countries who are our ADVERSARIES.

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First the steele dossier did not involve foreign interference by a foreign country- the work was done by an AMERICAN company who hired steele- AND STEELE DID REPORT HIS FINDINGS TO THE FBI.  What you can not do if use info from a foreign country especially a foreign enemy and use it in American election- because this is not opposition research this become INTELLIGNECE. sO THE hILLARY thing dealt with an America company who hired a foreign agent who reported his findigs to the FBI- trump wants to deal with a foreign company with foreign agents and even worse, foreign countries who are our ADVERSARIES.

BS..... The Clinton Campaign and DNC...paid ... Hey fool, who would have served Russia's interest better Hillary or Trump? Think before you answer that question - a** .

Hillary Clinton’s campaign didn’t just pay for the Kremlin-aided smear job on Donald Trump before the election; she continued to use the dirt after the election to frame her humiliating loss as a Russian conspiracy to steal the election.

Bitter to the core, she and her campaign aides hatched a scheme, just 24 hours after conceding the race, to spoon-feed the dirty rumors to an eager liberal media and manufacture the narrative that Russia secretly colluded with her neophyte foe to sabotage her coronation.

But it was Hillary who was trying to kneecap Trump, even after he licked her, fair and square, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and other blue states.

Exhibit A is the book “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign,” by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes. In light of this week’s revelation that Hillary’s campaign funded the dirty anti-Trump “Steele” dossier, the book takes on a new significance. It reveals:

“Within 24 hours of her concession speech, [campaign chair John Podesta and manager Robby Mook] assembled her communications team at the Brooklyn headquarters to engineer the case that the election wasn’t entirely on the up-and-up. For a couple of hours, with Shake Shack containers littering the room, they went over the script they would pitch to the press and the public. Already, Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.”

The plan, according to the book, was to push journalists to cover how “Russian hacking was the major unreported story of the campaign,” and it succeeded to a fare-thee-well. After the election, coverage of the Russian “collusion” story was relentless, and it helped pressure investigations and hearings on Capitol Hill and even the naming of a special counsel, which in turn has triggered virtually nonstop coverage.

Clinton urges Trump to condemn Russia in light of Mueller comments

A new Media Research Center study finds that, since the inauguration, major TV news networks have devoted an astonishing 1,000 minutes out of a total 5,015 minutes of Trump administration coverage discussing speculation that the Trump campaign may have colluded with Moscow in hacking Clinton campaign emails, “which means the Russia story alone has comprised almost one-fifth of all Trump news this year.” In contrast, they so far have devoted just 20 seconds to the more substantive scandal of Hillary and her husband possibly trading US uranium rights for Russian cash.

MRC analysts also found that more than a third of the networks’ Russia “scandal” coverage was based on anonymous sources who worked in the Obama administration, including Hillary’s State Department.

Though some of that coverage has proved erroneous, leading to retracted stories and fired reporters, the damage is done. Trump’s approval ratings have suffered, and the Russia investigation has distracted the administration.

Which was also part of Hillary’s plan.

In March, former Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri summed up the post-election strategy in a Washington Post column comparing “Russiagate” to Watergate and encouraging the press and other Democrats to “turn the Russia story against Trump.”


Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund infamous Trump dossier
“If we make plain that what Russia has done is nothing less than an attack on our republic, the public will be with us. And the more we talk about it, the more they’ll be with us,” she advised. “Polls show that voters are now concerned about the Russia story and overwhelmingly support an independent investigation.”

In short, Hillary couldn’t beat Trump with the political dirt she secretly purchased during the campaign, so she tried to cripple his presidency with help from an overwhelmingly anti-Trump media. Framing Trump as some sort of modern-day KGB plant was an easy sell, since the pro-Democrat media were also searching for a scapegoat to rationalize the crushing defeat of their shared liberal agenda at the polls.

The irony is, it may have in fact been Hillary who came closer to colluding with the Russians in smearing Trump as a Russian traitor than anything Trump did in trying to beat Hillary. The information in the dossier she bought for millions came from Russian intelligence sources, and her lawyers brokered the deal with a Kremlin-tied lobbyist. When it failed to stop Trump, the Russia paymaster turned into the Russia spinmeister.

Now we really know “What Happened.”

https://nypost.com/2017/10/26/how-team-hillary-played-the-press-for-fools-on-russia/

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He did not say he would take "dirt"....


That is a bald faced lie!  He did say he would accept “opposition research”!

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“It’s not an interference,” he said in an interview with ABC News, describing it as “opposition research.” “They have information — I think I’d take it.” He would call the F.B.I. only “if I thought there was something wrong.”

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It does not matter if they paid - the fact remains is that the paid AN AMERICAN COMPANY not a foreign adversary. the is opposition research- now if they paid putin via steele that sir is illegal . So you can print all the crap about HRC the fact remains that her staff dealt with an AMERICAN owned-- let me say that again OS- an AMERICAN OWNED COMPANY for the info- that is not illegal.

 

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