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Offline GALFAMU

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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2018, 04:02:25 PM »
You can count on black folk to make things personal and tear each other down. Just because someone said he did them wrong, you now hate him.  Yet you will go out and keep banking at Wells Fargo, watching NFL, eating Chic-Filet,....   Those things are a lot more egregious than Daniels blackballing diva Mo' or owing a loan shark money.  Why, do y'all insist on hating black people so?  :shrug: Just like you gave Dash and Mo' the benefit of the doubt, Daniels could be on the right in both of these cases. I'm actually willing to concede that Mo' may have a point but I also realize that I don't have all the information. Why should I hate Mo' for being a diva in the same way you are demonizing Lee Daniels?  :shrug:


I don't hate Lee Daniels, he  annoys the heck out of me. I don't hate Mo'Nique, she is loud and very "expressive" and  she probably  cannot help herself.

 At the same time, why would Damon Dash confront him (if that what he as doing) in a VERY public place unless he hadn't been able to get a response from him about repaying the loan?

I try to come from a support-myBlack-folks- angle which is why I so hard on my people.

I bank Black, buy Black as much as I can, (even the beauty supply) invested Black (when I had extra money) becuase that is how I was raised, which is why I get really upset when I see "us" treating one another like garbage.

I cannot even begn to list the ways my parents used to make sure they did business with Black people;it was a way of life.




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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2018, 01:50:10 PM »
You can count on black folk to make things personal and tear each other down. Just because someone said he did them wrong, you now hate him.  Yet you will go out and keep banking at Wells Fargo, watching NFL, eating Chic-Filet,....   Those things are a lot more egregious than Daniels blackballing diva Mo' or owing a loan shark money.  Why, do y'all insist on hating black people so?  :shrug: Just like you gave Dash and Mo' the benefit of the doubt, Daniels could be on the right in both of these cases. I'm actually willing to concede that Mo' may have a point but I also realize that I don't have all the information. Why should I hate Mo' for being a diva in the same way you are demonizing Lee Daniels?  :shrug:

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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2018, 09:20:47 PM »
An important question is who/where did Damon s loan go to:  to Lee Daniels as personal loan, to Lee Daniels' production company or to the movie project which is most likely own by some other white-owned company?   Lee may have received very little money from the "Precious" movie, himself, thus no money to give back to Damon, as a personal loan or loan from his production company.  Anyways there seemed to be a settlement and part of that settlement led to this latest spat.

Lee could be getting pimped, too, by more powerful Hollywood people.  We hear a lot about the illusions of wealth with people in the entertainment business.

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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2018, 09:58:48 PM »
An important question is who/where did Damon s loan go to:  to Lee Daniels as personal loan, to Lee Daniels' production company or to the movie project which is most likely own by some other white-owned company?   Lee may have received very little money from the "Precious" movie, himself, thus no money to give back to Damon, as a personal loan or loan from his production company.  Anyways there seemed to be a settlement and part of that settlement led to this latest spat.

Lee could be getting pimped, too, by more powerful Hollywood people.  We hear a lot about the illusions of wealth with people in the entertainment business.

???

why would Daniels borrow money to finish a product in which he would receive little benefit?
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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2018, 10:51:23 PM »
An important question is who/where did Damon s loan go to:  to Lee Daniels as personal loan, to Lee Daniels' production company or to the movie project which is most likely own by some other white-owned company?   Lee may have received very little money from the "Precious" movie, himself, thus no money to give back to Damon, as a personal loan or loan from his production company.  Anyways there seemed to be a settlement and part of that settlement led to this latest spat.

Lee could be getting pimped, too, by more powerful Hollywood people.  We hear a lot about the illusions of wealth with people in the entertainment business.

???

why would Daniels borrow money to finish a product in which he would receive little benefit?

This would be and it turned out to be Daniels' big break that would and did led to Daniels directing more movies, thus more fame and possibility of being a millionaire several times over.  Damon said as much.....

I straight up loaned this dude Lee Daniels @theoriginalbigdaddy 2 million to pay for his dream of being a director.

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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2018, 01:15:11 AM »
let me try it this way. I get the dream idea and it may not pan out, but you suggested that even if the movie was a success it may not lead to a monetary payout because somebody else really 'owned it'.

So who would loan somebody money on a project they didn't own? At least in a %age that would recoup said loan.
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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2018, 02:54:01 PM »
let me try it this way. I get the dream idea and it may not pan out, but you suggested that even if the movie was a success it may not lead to a monetary payout because somebody else really 'owned it'.

So who would loan somebody money on a project they didn't own? At least in a %age that would recoup said loan.

It seems to me that Damon made the mistake of not getting his lawyers involved to ensure all the paperwork was there with "every t crossed and every i dotted".  Damon trusted Lee.  I know, its funny, isn't it.

I will say this, either Damon lies alot about the entertainers he helped with financial loans or he is way too trusting.  It is very difficult to use the words "naive" and "Damon Dash" in the same full sentence, though.

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Re: Ya'll Owe Mo'Nique an Apology
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2018, 07:06:16 PM »
Lee Daniels 'fee up and it is a good example for black people working together.



 

 

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