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Question for military/former military/retired military
« on: December 08, 2015, 01:24:41 PM »
If you are retired military and you call the leader of the free world a "total p*ssy" on national TV, are there disciplinary actions that can be taken?  Is he in jeopardy of losing his retirement? What is an Article 15?

I've heard conflicting information so I'm just asking.
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2015, 01:32:46 PM »
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 01:48:10 PM »
Stop eating popcorn and answer my damn question :lol:
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 01:54:27 PM »
 Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, one of the many activities deemed punishable by court-martial is "contempt toward officials." This code of laws applies not just to active-duty officers but to retired ones, too. It's right there in Article 2, Section (a) (5): Persons subject to the UCMJ include "retired members of a regular component of the armed forces who are entitled to pay

The key phrase is "entitled to pay." If you resign from the military, and thus give up all retirement pay and benefits, you're free from the clutches of military law. But if you retire and thus keep getting paid 50 percent to 75 percent of your peak active-duty salary (plus cost-of-living adjustments pegged to the consumer price index), you're still in the cage. (Many retirees learned this the hard way, when they were called back into service in Iraq.)
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 02:01:48 PM »
Not only can he be courts martial for this, they can dig up stuff he did while on active duty and get him for that too. 
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 02:07:50 PM »
Thanks guys - appreciate the responses.

Somehow I think two week suspension from FOX is the least of his worries.  Wonder how it will play out.
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 02:28:32 PM »
What j1908 says...

There's a climate that has been sweeping across this country that seems to project that outspoken hatred for one another is okay.  It's coming down from some of our so called Leaders on the Campaign trail who hope to become POTUS and no one in our legislature is speaking out to hold them accountable as they are in direct violation of every individual's Constitutional Rights.  My prayers are that the people of this country start calling it and seeing it for what it is and come together in unity to stop it and not accept it as a way of life for this nation.
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 02:32:24 PM »
Thanks guys - appreciate the responses.

Somehow I think two week suspension from FOX is the least of his worries.  Wonder how it will play out.

I doubt the Army will do anything to him.  Especially after what happened to General McChrystal.
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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 10:40:51 PM »
First off, + one to j1908.

Second, homeboy is safe.  Any persecution of the General will be seen as some type of backlash against a republican due to who the president is.

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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 11:57:33 PM »
Commissioned officers are subject to recall even after retirement. Not so with enlisted folk. A retired officers arse is always POTENTIALLY in a vice and on the hook. But as mentioned earlier, politics will SAVE this arses arse. ::) No way the law professor in the White House or the spineless Democrats in Congress will push to punish that jerk. :no:


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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 08:12:04 AM »
3-4. Reserve Status of Retired Soldiers.
a. The U.S. Army Reserve consists of the Ready Reserve, the Standby Reserve, and the Retired Reserve.
b. Each Soldier of the U.S. Army Reserve is placed in one of these categories:
(1) A Reserve officer and warrant officer who has retired after serving 20 years or more of active duty is placed on the Army of the United States (AUS) Retired List and immediately transferred to the Retired Reserve.
(2) An officer holding a commission in the Army Reserve who is retired for permanent disability and placed on the AUS Retired List is transferred to the Retired Reserve.
(3) An enlisted Soldier of the Regular Army who retires from active duty with at least 20 but fewer than 30 years service automatically becomes a Soldier of the Army Reserve until he or she has 30 years of active and retired service. The Army also assigns these people to the Retired Reserve. When they attain a combined total of 30 years service, they may remain in their dual status (U.S. Army Retired and U.S. Army Reserve Retired), or request HRC-St. Louis to discharge them from the Army Reserve. Discharge from the Army Reserve in no way affects their retired pay or status on the U.S. Army Retired List. A Regular Army enlisted Soldier who holds dual status as a Reserve commissioned or warrant officer may complete the remainder of service in either officer or enlisted status; in either case, the Army will transfer the Soldier to the Retired Reserve upon retirement from active duty. If the Soldier elects to complete 30 years service in enlisted status, status as a Reserve officer of the Army will be vacated automatically upon retirement, and the Soldier will be transferred to the Retired Reserve in enlisted status.
3-5. Obligations for Military Service. Regular Army retired Soldiers remain subject to military law. This applies to those advanced to a higher grade on the AUS Retired list, as well as those enlisted Soldiers assigned to the Retired Reserve to complete 30 years service. They may be ordered to active duty at any time by the President, and may be assigned to duties the President considers necessary in the interests of national defense.
3-6. Mobilization.
a. The Secretary of the Army, with approval of the Secretary of Defense, may order any retired Soldier of the Army's Reserve Components, with or without the Soldier's consent, to active duty when the Congress declares the existence of a state of war or national emergency.
b. In the event of full mobilization (war), the Army has developed a program for recalling retired Army officers, warrant officers, and enlisted Soldiers. This program pre-assigns retired Soldiers, by skill, to CONUS TDA/MOBTDA requirements considered suitable for fill by retired Soldiers. These positions may be mobilization augmentation positions or spaces encumbered by active Army Soldiers. When recalled, upon reporting for active duty, retired Soldiers free up active duty Soldiers for deployment. Retired Soldiers may also be deployed provided they are qualified and capable of performing duties

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://army.com/sites/army.com/files/HandbookforRetiringSoldiersandFamilies2009.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi_iYH26s7JAhXESSYKHQpHC8oQFggxMAY&usg=AFQjCNFb1jKnDsVstlk9SYFPsN-i09hw9g&sig2=_YsBGoHd-KK9YzLiOKapow

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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 09:40:09 AM »
Commissioned officers are subject to recall even after retirement. Not so with enlisted folk. A retired officers arse is always POTENTIALLY in a vice and on the hook. But as mentioned earlier, politics will SAVE this arses arse. ::) No way the law professor in the White House or the spineless Democrats in Congress will push to punish that jerk. :no:

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Re: Question for military/former military/retired military
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 09:46:51 AM »
3-4. Reserve Status of Retired Soldiers.
a. The U.S. Army Reserve consists of the Ready Reserve, the Standby Reserve, and the Retired Reserve.
b. Each Soldier of the U.S. Army Reserve is placed in one of these categories:
(1) A Reserve officer and warrant officer who has retired after serving 20 years or more of active duty is placed on the Army of the United States (AUS) Retired List and immediately transferred to the Retired Reserve.
(2) An officer holding a commission in the Army Reserve who is retired for permanent disability and placed on the AUS Retired List is transferred to the Retired Reserve.
(3) An enlisted Soldier of the Regular Army who retires from active duty with at least 20 but fewer than 30 years service automatically becomes a Soldier of the Army Reserve until he or she has 30 years of active and retired service. The Army also assigns these people to the Retired Reserve. When they attain a combined total of 30 years service, they may remain in their dual status (U.S. Army Retired and U.S. Army Reserve Retired), or request HRC-St. Louis to discharge them from the Army Reserve. Discharge from the Army Reserve in no way affects their retired pay or status on the U.S. Army Retired List. A Regular Army enlisted Soldier who holds dual status as a Reserve commissioned or warrant officer may complete the remainder of service in either officer or enlisted status; in either case, the Army will transfer the Soldier to the Retired Reserve upon retirement from active duty. If the Soldier elects to complete 30 years service in enlisted status, status as a Reserve officer of the Army will be vacated automatically upon retirement, and the Soldier will be transferred to the Retired Reserve in enlisted status.
3-5. Obligations for Military Service. Regular Army retired Soldiers remain subject to military law. This applies to those advanced to a higher grade on the AUS Retired list, as well as those enlisted Soldiers assigned to the Retired Reserve to complete 30 years service. They may be ordered to active duty at any time by the President, and may be assigned to duties the President considers necessary in the interests of national defense.
3-6. Mobilization.
a. The Secretary of the Army, with approval of the Secretary of Defense, may order any retired Soldier of the Army's Reserve Components, with or without the Soldier's consent, to active duty when the Congress declares the existence of a state of war or national emergency.
b. In the event of full mobilization (war), the Army has developed a program for recalling retired Army officers, warrant officers, and enlisted Soldiers. This program pre-assigns retired Soldiers, by skill, to CONUS TDA/MOBTDA requirements considered suitable for fill by retired Soldiers. These positions may be mobilization augmentation positions or spaces encumbered by active Army Soldiers. When recalled, upon reporting for active duty, retired Soldiers free up active duty Soldiers for deployment. Retired Soldiers may also be deployed provided they are qualified and capable of performing duties

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://army.com/sites/army.com/files/HandbookforRetiringSoldiersandFamilies2009.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwi_iYH26s7JAhXESSYKHQpHC8oQFggxMAY&usg=AFQjCNFb1jKnDsVstlk9SYFPsN-i09hw9g&sig2=_YsBGoHd-KK9YzLiOKapow

Well DAMN. I'll bet a LOT of people who take the Oath are ignorant of these facts.

So Officer arses are ALWAYS on the hook, and enlisted men's arses are on the hook for 30 years, then only one cheek is impaled.

Well sah..... :no:


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