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Offline lew9ball

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2015, 01:12:35 PM »
 
Great and Congrats to VSU  .. still consider WSSU a top dogg in the CIAA .. :clap: :clap:.
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2015, 01:24:28 PM »
Not only did WSSU not claim those top two awards (losing in the CIAA football and men’s basketball championship games didn’t help the Rams cause) but it lost out on the CIAA Most Positive Game Environment Banner to Johnson C. Smith’s Brayboy Gym.

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2015, 01:49:48 PM »
Not only did WSSU not claim those top two awards (losing in the CIAA football and men’s basketball championship games didn’t help the Rams cause) but it lost out on the CIAA Most Positive Game Environment Banner to Johnson C. Smith’s Brayboy Gym.

WSSU played in Championship game in every Men's Revenue Sport.  What hurt us is not having golf, track and field and tennis for men.

I don't think any other HBCU can say they did that this year.
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 05:59:37 AM »
Many have Golf, Indoor Track,Out Door Track, Cross Country,and Tennis.

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2015, 09:38:12 AM »
VSU has done a great job this year. They deserve everything they won. This should make us hungry again.

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But in the words of that great alien, "we will be back". We will need to win some of these other sports to make-up for the men sports we don't have. Trophy or not, I still consider WSSU the real Kings of the CIAA.

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 09:02:47 AM »
Congratulations to the VSU Trojans!    :clap:    :clap:    :clap:
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 11:17:49 AM »
What's your definition of revenue sport, because it varies by school.

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2015, 12:42:44 PM »
What's your definition of revenue sport, because it varies by school.

Football, Basketball and Baseball.

What other sports would you consider at an HBCU?
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2015, 01:23:55 PM »
What's your definition of revenue sport, because it varies by school.

Is that a trick question? This is universal.

that's all...  ???

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 03:31:57 PM »
Football and basketball are generally regarded as the only revenue sports en masse. Baseball, soccer, lacrosse and wrestling are revenue sports depending on the region and programs.

Baseball isn't what I'd call a revenue sport outside of the SEC and sporadic Western programs like Oregon State.

Regarding one's claim as the top school as to only "revenue" sports is completely selective and subjective with the criteria established. If a school has two revenue sports, but fields say 12 men's sports, and finishes dead last in 10 of those 2 but wins MBB and FB, that would hardly classify a team as a king of anything.

Claiming "revenue" sports as a decisive factor ...

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 05:50:43 PM »
Football and basketball are generally regarded as the only revenue sports en masse. Baseball, soccer, lacrosse and wrestling are revenue sports depending on the region and programs.

Baseball isn't what I'd call a revenue sport outside of the SEC and sporadic Western programs like Oregon State.

Regarding one's claim as the top school as to only "revenue" sports is completely selective and subjective with the criteria established. If a school has two revenue sports, but fields say 12 men's sports, and finishes dead last in 10 of those 2 but wins MBB and FB, that would hardly classify a team as a king of anything.

Claiming "revenue" sports as a decisive factor ...

WSSU fields Cross Country, Football, Basketball and Baseball in Men's Sports.

WSSU played in Confererence Championship game in Football, Baseball and Basketball. WSSU also won the CIAA Southern Division in Football and Basketball.  Baseball team went 15-1 in conference regular season and undefeated in Conference Tournament.

Back to my original question, which other HBCU did that in 2014-2015?

WSSU decided to put money in the 3 biggest Men's sports by fielding 4 Men's Sports and 6 Women's sports and it is paying off.

Football and Baseball both finished season ranked nationally in Top 25.
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2015, 06:13:42 PM »
Fair enough -- three out of four isn't bad at all.

I would subscribe to a theory where a team taking second in all 8 sports would trump that, but that's more about theory of sport than it is a factual proof.

Four men's sports ... that's something I can't fathom, even coming from a then smaller Division I school.

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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2015, 06:26:24 PM »
Fair enough -- three out of four isn't bad at all.

I would subscribe to a theory where a team taking second in all 8 sports would trump that, but that's more about theory of sport than it is a factual proof.

Four men's sports ... that's something I can't fathom, even coming from a then smaller Division I school.

What school and how many sports do yall field?
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Re: The new king of the CIAA - Virginia State....
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2015, 03:13:05 PM »
We are still the King.   :nod: We just have a subject attempting a coup! :D

 

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