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Politics / Re: New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed...

« Last post by Wildman78 on Today at 09:51:24 PM »

Trump’s Plans for a Coup Are Now Public

Last year, John Eastman, whom CNN describes as an attorney working with Donald Trump’s legal team, wrote a preposterous memo outlining how then–Vice President Mike Pence could overturn the 2020 election by fiat or, failing that, throw the election to the House of Representatives, where Republicans could install Trump in office despite his loss to Joe Biden. The document, which was first reported by the Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa in their new book, is a step-by-step plan to overthrow the government of the United States through a preposterous interpretation of legal procedure.

Pence apparently took the idea seriously—so seriously, in fact, that, according to Woodward and Costa, former Vice President Dan Quayle had to talk him out of it. Prior to November, the possibility of Trump attempting a coup was seen as the deranged fever dream of crazed liberals. But as it turns out, Trump and his advisers had devised explicit plans for reversing Trump’s loss. Republican leaders deliberately stoked election conspiracy theories they knew to be false, in order to lay a political pretext for invalidating the results. Now, more than 10 months after the election, the country knows of at least five ways in which Trump attempted to retain power despite his defeat.

1. Trump tried to pressure secretaries of state to not certify.

2. Trump tried to pressure state legislatures to overturn the results.

3. Trump tried to get the courts to overturn the results.

4. Trump tried to pressure Mike Pence to overturn the results.

5. When all else failed, Trump tried to get a mob to overturn the results.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/five-ways-donald-trump-tried-coup/620157/

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General Discussion Forum / About this "karma" thingy on ONNIDAN

« Last post by FunCkMaster on Today at 09:10:13 PM »

I have many questions about this Positive/Negative karma system that I guess was implemented to help us get along better or something?

How is the "scoring system" put together? It seems like you can say a bunch of nice things, and your positive score stays right where it is. But the minute you check someone on their BS, or defend yourself, or call out someone's BS, you get negative points out of the whazoo.

Did the ol' Wise Mr. Onnidan implement this? Or did one of you computer types Bogart him and twisted his arm to include it? Do you have to be a regular kiss-arse to get positive points? Not to tattle on people, but Jay Thomas ain't nothing but a thug and a goon , and his positive rating is 90 something compared to 3 negative points! Whadup with that?

Not that I give that much of a flying fig (because I know I'm gonna get 5 negative points for saying what I have said on this post! ), but that is just some weirdo stuff that you would implement for elementary school children. To me, it ain't curtailing anything, certain posters are just as ignant and clownish as they always are, so what's the point?

I look forward to havin' a positive karma rating stuck on 36, while my negative will blow up to 4 digits...

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General Discussion Forum / Re: R. Kelly found GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

« Last post by cee dog on Today at 08:48:54 PM »

Well when I saw that Documentary last year that was enough for me for him. I got angry and stop looking at it.

Every witness saw this happen and no one said nothing until 30 years later. So why is R Kelly the only one going to jail? Let me tell you something black prosecutors and black police men/fbi agent/law enforcement are no different from their white counterparts. They just pick and choose because of their skin color. Especially black feminist. They are worst than their white counterparts.

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2021 SIAC Football Predictions / Re: Week #6: October 2, 2021

« Last post by oldcat on Today at 08:37:02 PM »

WINNERS IN ORDER
AU-IMPROVEMENT
SSU-STILL ROLLING
TU-NEED A WIN
FVSU-REPLAY
MC-C'MON GUYS
LC-EASY STREET
MILES C.- OK, HERE THEY ARE!!

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Politics / Re: Thom Hartman On The Racist History Of American Healthcare

« Last post by iceman4221 on Today at 08:28:33 PM »

I highly recommend reading about the Seminole Wars.  (I read about it in a book on slave insurrections.) It is a worthwhile read.  It went from a Seminole War to a Negro War.  They went on a trek through North Georgia, Arkansas, Oklahoma (then the Indian Territory, Texas and other states on their way to Mexico, which ended slavery.  I think that they crossed the Rio Grande at Eagle Pass, Texas, which is up (or down if you prefer) the road from Del Rio.

I have heard about the Seminole Wars often and read anecdotal material, not in-depth material on the subject... 

Can you EB, Biison66 or anyone else, recommend what I should buy or provide a link for me to access and/or purchase material on the subject... Thanks

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Politics / Re: New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed...

« Last post by oldsport on Today at 08:10:00 PM »

New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed

Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN
Updated 10:22 AM ET, Wed September 22, 2021

(CNN)A rush of new and shocking behind-the-scenes disclosures about how then-President Donald Trump sought to thwart the Constitution and the will of voters makes a clear case that America came closer to a coup earlier this year than previously known.

The fresh evidence also shows what many people in Trump's inner circle knew in January: His case to stay in power was meritless, but an unchained commander in chief chose to listen to acolytes pushing wild conspiracies. Some of those who knew the truth refused to speak up, even as American democracy came under attack.

Just this week, it's been revealed that:
Trump had blueprints that the Republicans tried to use to prevent Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's clear and genuine victory, in the form of a memo that laid out a plan for then-Vice President Mike Pence to thwart Biden's Electoral College triumph. The memo was reported in the new book "Peril," by Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, and was later obtained by CNN.

Trump's own campaign staff knew that outlandish claims of fraud made by the then-President's lawyers were utterly false, according to a report in The New York Times. But they did nothing to stop his dangerous allegations.

Trump sent a letter full of false information to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, asking him to start the process of decertifying the 2020 election.
"Peril" also contains a passage that shows Trump cared little for truth, what voters decided in November or bedrock constitutional values -- but agonized about his reputation and mused that accepting defeat would brand him as one of history's losers.

This growing paper trail, which is likely to be of intense interest to the House select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection, appears to prove Trump's intent to stay in power illegally. The record is beginning to add up to an extraordinary indictment of the ex-President's abuses of power and one of the darkest moments in US history.

In the fraught days after the election last year and after the Capitol insurrection, many observers were unwilling initially to use the word coup -- aware of the explosive nature of such language. The surreal experience of watching an assault on constitutional guardrails once thought inviolate also was, at times, hard to process. And skeptics of the coup terminology also suggested that Trump's efforts were little more than madcap and incompetent political theater.

Yet the conspiratorial and at times clownish attempts to overturn the election -- especially by Trump's legal team -- don't make an unprecedented effort to destroy America's democratic traditions any less mendacious.

The newly disclosed information builds on what was already known about what appears to be an expansive multi-front effort to destroy a peaceful and just transfer of power. The ex-President, for instance, initiated a vast disinformation campaign that has convinced millions of voters the election was stolen, helped by a pliant conservative media pushing his lies.

Last month, it emerged that Trump had tried to pressure the Justice Department to declare election fraud and leave the business of stealing power to him and his congressional allies. Trump, of course, instigated another aspect often seen in coups against legitimate power -- a mob -- by inciting supporters who invaded the Capitol.

His corrupt behavior initiated a flurry of new election laws passed in Republican-run states that could make it easier for Trump or a like-minded constitutional arsonist to steal power in the future. And he is endorsing rafts of candidates for state offices like secretary of state, creating a potential pool of local officials who could be minded to interfere in a future election.

Click link at the top for the rest of the story...

PURE BS JUST LIKE THE RUSSIAN COLLUSION

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Politics / YOU K----S DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON

« Last post by oldsport on Today at 08:08:42 PM »

The nation is being destroyed right under your damn noses.

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Sports Forum / Re: WSSU Rams Say Goodbye to Massey

« Last post by hbcu on Today at 08:03:09 PM »

Massey has loss at every HBCU that he coach.  Maybe that interim tag has been there too long.

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Sports Forum / Re: Gulf Coast Classic (Challenge if you got to nitpick)

« Last post by AimHigh on Today at 08:03:09 PM »

I’m glad A&M is going back to the classic white helmets and not those wannabe Tide maroon helmets! Thanks for sharing.

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Sports Forum / Re: HBCU Pass Efficiency Sept 28th

« Last post by JBROB on Today at 08:00:51 PM »

SIAC
1.   Jamurian Hartage-SSU   186.5
2.   Eric Phoenix-BC      181.1
3.   Newell III,Clau-MC   178.5
4.   Parker,Jalen-MC      172.8
5.   Tarik Mckinzie-LC   156.1
6.   Dionte Bonneau-ASU   141.0
7.   Tyrell Jackson-FVSU   137.3
8.   D'Vonn Gibbons-SSU  129.8
9.   David Wright III-AU 126.4
10.   Sharif Brown-CAU   118.2

https://static.thesiac.com/custompages/Football%20Stats/2021%20Football/confldrs.htm#conf.wi2