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Sports Forum / Heart, Soul and the Bayou Classic
« on: December 09, 2014, 08:20:16 PM »
SBNation published a longform article on the Bayou Classic:

"In the most recent data, LSU spent more than $105 million on athletics and took in revenue of more than $117 million. One state over, Texas spent almost $147 million and took in almost $166 million. Grambling State, about 220 miles northwest of Baton Rouge and about 370 miles east-northeast of Austin, spent under $8 million and took in just over $6 million.

Among public Division I schools, Grambling's revenue figures aren't actually the worst. SWAC mate Mississippi Valley State spent and took in about $4.4 million. Coppin State, a MEAC school with no football program, took in $3.4 million and spent $3.7."


"Southern University and A&M College is located on the Mulatto Bend of the Mississippi River, about 10 miles north of LSU in Baton Rouge. Because of the Robinson effect, Southern has taken on second billing in the Bayou Classic, an Auburn to Grambling's Alabama, a UCLA to GSU's USC. But that's not fair. The Jaguars have won nine HBCU national championships and had already won 10 SWAC titles by the time Grambling, a school only two-thirds Southern's size, joined the conference. Southern didn't produce a run of pros like GSU in the 1970s, but it has cranked out stars like Mel Blount, Harold Carmichael, and Aeneas Williams."


""The band was ranked by the NCAA in January of this year as the No. 2 band in the country behind Ohio State. Now, that's an honor within itself. When you think about North Carolina or Duke, you think about basketball. Alabama and LSU, football. For Southern, it's the band. That's no slight to the football team, but the way I try to look at it, the Southern band being ranked No. 2 in the nation would be like the Southern football team being ranked No. 2 in the Playoff rankings.

"When you compare Ohio State's budget to ours, it's like comparing a steak dinner to a piece of candy. Our band has always been great, but our students are graduating with house notes because of student loans. I don't think that's right. State funds have been cut, and there's nothing we can do about that. But we wanted to raise funds. We're focusing more on marketing and branding. We've had an active campaign all fall."


"When you see the smiles of two 70-something Southern supporters on the Superdome field after the game, asking "Did you have a good time?" and, knowing the answer to that question already, "You coming back next year?" ...

... you realize this is a special thing. The Bayou Classic is everything you fell in love with when you fell in love with college sports. It is rivalry. It is an important battle. It is players from the losing team unable to control the tears.

It is also a respite, a perfect oasis for a sports life that is, for the other 51 weeks of the year, challenging and frugal."

Sports Forum / Re: Should UAB's Situation Scare HBCUs
« on: December 03, 2014, 11:50:51 AM »
UAB could have dropped to FCS or DII.  They chose to drop football and remain in Conference USA.  Considering the current status (one-bid) of Conf USA in DI basketball, they probably should have sought membership in the OVC and been done with it, IMO.

Conference USA requires its members to sponsor football.  UAB will have to seek and be granted a waiver or it will need to find a new conference.

Congrats to Morgan State and to Xavier ($19.6 million)!

Sports Forum / Re: UNC's Vast Academic Fraud
« on: October 23, 2014, 03:59:27 PM »
This is not the first time something like this happened, and it could be for a number of "majors" on many campuses.

I would have loved to take a course on African American Studies and History. There is so much I DON'T know,,,,,,,, :no:

Get a couple of good book by noted black historians. This is how I learned my African-American history and other matters about African-Americans. If you need the name of sources and material, just let me know.

When we do the same for white history, then we can have a conversation. Until then, keep steppin and fetchin.


Um, I know of no course at most universities or college entitled "White Studies" get real K----.

The study of "whiteness" and the making of whiteness in the United States has been a significant topic of study in the social sciences (especially anthropology and sociology) and in the humanities (mostly history) for at least a decade.

Google Search for "Whiteness" Syllabi at American institutions of higher education:

Sports Forum / Re: UNC's Vast Academic Fraud
« on: October 22, 2014, 04:00:53 PM »
Its a no-brainer why this was done for some student-athletes.....

Kenneth Wainstein, a former top U.S. Justice Department official, said during a press conference Wednesday that academic counselors ushered as many as 3,100 students – approximately 1,500 of them student-athletes – into bogus classes that were geared toward keeping student-athletes eligible for play over the past 18 years (1993-2011)

....but out of 3100, I'm curious as to the motivation for pushing non-student-athletes in to Micky Mouse classes...........?   :shrug:

Not everyone was steered into the classes. According to the report the fraternities learned of the classes and started taking them for easy grades.  At one point, Crowder and the academic support staff became annoyed because they believed the frats would crowd out the student-athletes. 

More interesting to me is that the academic support staff gave a Powerpoint presentation with the following slide when Debbie Crowder was about to retire.  Most of the football staff including Butch Davis was present.

Morrison was an endowed professor at Princeton for nearly twenty years so she also has a relationship with them. The other question is not whether Howard was asked if it would store her papers, but if it lobbied to do so, which I'm sure Princeton did.

Sports Forum / Re: The James Bell era pt.2 has begun in Jackson
« on: September 21, 2014, 01:29:17 PM »
Folks at this rate we'll be lucky to finish at .500 this season. I guess the President got what she wanted.

The old school football alumni who Comegy held at arm's length got what they wanted--one of their own.

Nah, the old school AND new school alumni wanted several things from Comegy which he proved he couldn't produce:

1. Stop getting out-coached by Grambling and Tennessee State.
2. Stop losing to scrub teams like Alcorn and UAPB.
3. Stop recruiting athletes who end up on the got damn news for robbing banks and stores.
4. Stop hurting our APR.
5. Stop losing in the SWAC Championship Game.

Had Comegy fired Woody after the first season, his overall record and results would have been a lot better.  Dude just can't coach in the trenches nor consistently win big games. He can recruit his a-- off, though..

I simply wanted to point out that this particular hire was pushed and applauded by many of the old-school alumni J-State football players.

Comegy has many foibles.  As I have said on this board before, the biggest is that he just wanted to coach football with the most talented players he could recruit to JSU.  A head coach is more than a coordinator and requires far more managerial and public relations skills than Comegy had or attempted to cultivate.  In his own words, Comegy "ran off" many of the players from the Bell era because he didn't believe they had enough football talent.  Doing that and recruiting heavily from the junior college ranks were the culprits behind JSU's APR problems.  JSU was on the hook for the future academic progress of those run off players and many of the transfer players had difficulty maintaining progress due to the lack of fit between courses taken at their previous institutions and JSU requirements.  Comegy didn't care much about reaching out to the alumni, especially the really vocal football player alumni, or selling the program and the university.  He didn't do a good job of managing relations with the current AD, who is more active and involved than her predecessors.  No, he didn't seem to care so much about the off-field activities of his players.

However, Comegy had a 55-35 record at JSU with four SWAC championship game appearances and only one title win.  JSU was first in the east or tied for first six out of eight years that he coached here.  In that same time period, he had only one .500 or worse season.  Last year, the team lost the SCG in double-overtime after an 8-3 season.  There is no need to denigrate Comegy's football coaching record, which is a good one.  

If Harold Jackson comes up with anything close, we should all be ecstatic.  However, his head coaching record doesn't give us much hope.  I want Jackson to do well because I want JSU to be competitive.  However, he elevated a young man who previous coaching experience was one year as a graduate assistant to an offensive coordinator's position working with a starting quarterback who has never played a full season of collegiate football.  They are also installing a new offense.  I hope this will pay off a year or two down the road once the staff, many of whom are new to the SWAC, learn how to play our traditional opponents and how to work with the talent available to JSU.

Sports Forum / Re: The James Bell era pt.2 has begun in Jackson
« on: September 21, 2014, 08:46:15 AM »
Folks at this rate we'll be lucky to finish at .500 this season. I guess the President got what she wanted.

The old school football alumni who Comegy held at arm's length got what they wanted--one of their own.


"Professor James Oliver, band director for the Mighty Marching Hornets, said the show will be family-based and will highlight student growth as they navigate through the music program. 

"This is a unique and wonderful opportunity to share with the public, through the A&E Network, our incredible university, and to let the world see how we nurture our ASU band members into becoming good musicians and motivate them to become great students academically," Oliver said.

He said that the show has been named "Bama State Style" and filming begins on Monday at the university. The band director added that the reality television show begins is expected to air in January, 2015.

Excerpts from FoxSports:

In June, Winslow put FAMU boosters on their heels, controversially proclaiming at a 220 Quarterback Club luncheon that the school’s athletic department was “broken,” telling the audience: “It can't be fixed. Tear it down, start over, build it the right way.”
“I don't think the program is broken to the point that it can't be fixed,” 220 Quarterback Club president Eddie Jackson told the Tallahassee Democrat after Winslow’s proclamation. “There is a foundation to build off of rather than tearing things down. I just think this is going way, way too fast. … I don't think we're moving down the right path. In terms of what he is doing, it's too much, too soon. Too many changes.”
Winslow has never been one to put too much stock in criticism, though, and has already made a few major moves, suspending the men’s tennis and golf programs, firing track coach Wayne Angel and football defensive line coach George Small and hiring Byron Samuels as the new men’s basketball coach, with more moves expected in the coming weeks and months at the recommendation of an advisory committee assembled to assess the current state of the program.


Winslow uses the hypothetical installation of artificial turf on the football field as an example of how an investment in athletics is also an investment in academics.
“(I have to) convince them that this is not just about 100 or 120 yards — if we put down FieldTurf, it’s not just about 100 yards of FieldTurf for five home football games,” Winslow said. “You put down FieldTurf, and I get a chance to start soccer. I reduce my costs of taking care of the field. When I start soccer, it gives me access to a different kind of athlete, because it’s played in different areas from a socioeconomic standpoint, from the quality-of-high-schools-they’re-attending standpoint.
“So in many ways I’ve improved my academic profile in the athletic department by starting soccer. (It’s) well documented, well proven. Now I’m also reaching a diverse audience compared to the audience we have now. That’s 35 men, 35 women, that’s 70 more students here at our school who are pretty sound academically, who are from diverse backgrounds — now I’ve taken the tentacles of FAMU, because I’ve put down FieldTurf and I’m playing soccer, and I’m in different markets.

“So facilities are where it starts. You have to be able to show young people that we have better facilities than you had in high school, and we can’t do that right now. I’m just being honest. And so it’s difficult to recruit the best of the best or get your share of that talent pool that you’re supposed to be getting. That’s where it all starts. If they walk into the locker room and they don’t go, ‘Wow,’ then you have a problem.


“By definition, nobody does first-generation better than FAMU,” he added. “It’s that nurturing, transformative environment that you’re in. It’s the ability to come to a school that has high academic standards and a classroom that’s small enough where you get the attention — where people can lay hands on you on a daily basis and say, ‘How are you? What’s going on? How are things at home?’ That’s the culture. We let it get away from us to become known as a ‘black university,’ but that’s so inaccurate, because by that definition, there should also be ‘white universities.’ … Our forefathers did not get this one right. They screwed it up for us, and we’re still trying to fix it.


“It has to be strategic,” Winslow said. “When we go into Columbus, we accept a game to play Ohio State, you say, ‘Yeah, they paid us $900,000,’ which we probably netted $650,000 or $625,000 after expenses for that. So you do that calculation and then you sit down and go, ‘OK, so what’s the other value?’
“Yes, we were on television, but did your brand get an uptick, or — if you watch the Colbert Report — did we get the ‘Colbert Bump’? No, we didn’t, because we’re playing a superior football team, simply because of the number of scholarships, size of athletes, training, nutrition, coaching, weightlifting, etcetera. If we played a game where we were competitive, or even won, we get the Colbert Bump, but if we don’t show well, we take all the negative branding that comes with that, and we have to find a way to fix it, and that costs you money.”

It seems like JCSU did not have many graduate education degrees.  For universities those programs are far more profitable than stand-alone undergraduate teaching degrees.  Typically, professional degrees (including education) are not expected to come with significant financial aid like undergraduate degrees.  Further, in most states, other than across the board raises, the only ways that K-12 teachers can increase their salaries are via seniority and added graduate degrees.  This gives existing teachers an incentive to participate in grad programs.  (However, many states are moving towards merit-pay increases.)   Again, in many states, K-12 teachers have to return to school for continuing education credits every so many years increasing the potential pool of students.  Lastly, these programs are far less expensive than laboratory-based programs (like engineering or biology).  They require fewer capital inputs and faculty in education along with many in the liberal arts or humanities are usually the least well paid at a university.  So I wouldn't expect HBCUs with robust graduate degree programs in education to shut them down anytime soon.

Jackson State University is designated as a "high research activity” institution by the Carnegie Foundation.

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