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Politics / Re: White House eases rules for travel to Cuba
« on: January 15, 2011, 04:36:22 PM »
Why can't it wait until the second term? 

There are many Cuban exiles in Florida and ultra conservatives who would have  a cow if Obama normalized relations with Cuba?

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Politics / Re: White House eases rules for travel to Cuba
« on: January 15, 2011, 04:28:49 PM »
screw this.  the president needs to pick up the phone and call castro and tell him he's coming for a visit.

if 'only nixon could go to china.'  then 'only obama could go to cuba.'

That's a second term move.
I'm fairly certain there will be a second term. 
The odds get better every day.

O0

wrong.  nixon went during his first term.  obama needs to go during his first term.  he needs to go within the next six months.

I think Bison4Life was saying it would be better for Obama to go to Cuba  during his second term.

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Politics / Re: White House eases rules for travel to Cuba
« on: January 15, 2011, 04:20:05 PM »
screw this.  the president needs to pick up the phone and call castro and tell him he's coming for a visit.

if 'only nixon could go to china.'  then 'only obama could go to cuba.'

That's a second term move.
I'm fairly certain there will be a second term. 
The odds get better every day.

O0

wrong.  nixon went during his first term.  obama needs to go during his first term.  he needs to go within the next six months.

Why do you think Obama needs to go to Cuba?

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Happy Anniversary to those fine Sisters of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. :clap:

From your Ice Cold Bro. :hugs:

^^ What he said.  :)

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On problem that I saw with the fight for civil rights was that it went from a movement of equality or equal treatment under the law to one of solely integration.

With the rise of the Tea Party and the 150th anniversary of the succession and Civil War coming, it is more than a good reason for us to remind ourselves and teach the younger ones our history.  Too many of us are forgetting it, and it will cost us dearly.

I don't necessarily disagree with you when you suggest that there may have been too much focus on intergration during the civil righs movement. However, hindsight is 20-20. 

I ain't mad at you though.

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Politics / Re: even the british think the liberal left have gone to far
« on: January 15, 2011, 11:31:21 AM »
"The" Brittish. How  about one Brit or some Brits.

SMH  :no:

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Politics / White House eases rules for travel to Cuba
« on: January 15, 2011, 07:58:32 AM »
WASHINGTON – Students, artists, religious and cultural groups will find it much easier to travel to Cuba under new rules announced by the White House on Friday as part of a policy to reach out to the Cuban people.

Universities and cultural groups with reasons to visit the island will be allowed to sponsor trips without seeking permission each time from U.S. officials. Americans will be allowed to send up to $2,000 a year to Cubans, including non-family members, as long as the recipients are not top government or Communist Party officials.

And more airports, likely including Tampa International, will be allowed to provide direct flights to Cuba, aside from the current three in Miami, Los Angeles and New York.

The long-expected looser travel rules, which will be completed in two or three weeks, will remove many of the restrictions imposed by the former George W. Bush administration and restore a people-to-people policy begun in the 1990s during the former Bill Clinton administration.

"It will put money in the pockets of the Cuban people and allow them — incrementally perhaps, but importantly — to have more economic independence from the Cuban state," a senior administration official told reporters.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/fl-cuba-rules-ease-travel-20110114,0,6700725.story

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If she didn't say something, you would complain about that...just admit it...there is NOTHING she can do that you would approve of, unless it is move out of the White House...

I really am concerned for you...

Wrong! She really didn't need to say jack. Her appearance made it clear that she supported the President's sentiments.  She's not the spokes person for this nation. She's not the nation's official grief lady. This was a open letter. Why did it need to be public. The class thing to do would have been to say some kind words in private to the grieving parents. These two (Barry and Michelle) are such show offs it's sickening.

You are entitled to your opinion. However, I don't see anything wrong with Michelle Obama writing an open letter to parents suggesting what they can teach their children about this tragedy.

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Politics / Re: arizona gunman was not motivated by politics
« on: January 14, 2011, 12:45:29 PM »
You are correct, he was trying to impress Jodie Foster....

I still don't see how that makes  this incident not be political.....his rhetoric on hating the government could make it political....

I don't think Hinkley ever mentioned anything about the government...

I don't know if it was political or not, but it surely isn't far fetched to think that there was some influence...

Thanks for refreshing my recollection Valley Girl and Uchighlander.

I had forgotten all about that Jode Foster thing with Hinckley.  (I'll promise to do some quick research before responding the next time  a similar situation arises) My Bad.  I'll agree that Hinckely probably wasn't trying to make a political point.  

But why I got to be liar when  I said

"I don't know whether John Hinckley' motivation was partly political."  ( I guess I should have said I don't recall what Hinckley's motivation was)

I haven't heard any mention of Loughner trying to impress somebody.

Why are we comparing him to Hinckley.

I'm through with this mess.
 

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Politics / Re: arizona gunman was not motivated by politics
« on: January 14, 2011, 11:09:46 AM »
Well, if it was political, which I think it was, it was political on his part.  Listening to people like Rush and the Tea Party can push folks over the edge.  

EP -

Let's keep this in the proper perspective.  Some can be pushed in the wrong direction by the words/actions of those on the extreme left and right.  The shooter may not have been politically motivated to shoot people, but we can all assume there may have been some other external and internal influences that led him to do what he did.

Like I said, I don't think mentall illness and political leanings are mutually exclusive. You can be a crazy a-- right wing republican or a crazy a-- bleeding heart liberal.

When a Congressman is shot at a political rally by someone she doesn't know, I don't see how anyone can argue politics had nothing to do with it.

Maybe it's just me?

are you saying john hinckley shooting president ronald wilson reagan was political.  he laid in wait to shoot president ronald wilson reagan and it had nothing to do with politics.  

I don't know whether John Hinckley' motivation was partly  political. I think John Hinckely was insane. I don't think this guy is insane. And I still think this guy was trying to make a political statement.

wildman, you need to get out more or stop lying.  hinckley shooting reagan had nothing to do with politics.

Please don't call me liar. .  I said I don't know if Hinckely acts were partly motivated by politics.

Just 'cause you say Hinckley was not motivated by politics, doesn't necessarily make it true.  

If you can prove that Hinckley shooting Reagan had nothing to do with politics, prove it.

Why should I just accept your naked assertion?  

My bad.

In any event,  we are not talking about Hinckley, we are talking about Loughner and what I know about the Loughner's situation leads me to conclude he was trying to make a political statement.  

I'm not convinced that these situations are identical.

You ain't nobody smarter than anybody else.

Stop tripping.

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Politics / Re: arizona gunman was not motivated by politics
« on: January 14, 2011, 10:51:14 AM »
Well, if it was political, which I think it was, it was political on his part.  Listening to people like Rush and the Tea Party can push folks over the edge.  

EP -

Let's keep this in the proper perspective.  Some can be pushed in the wrong direction by the words/actions of those on the extreme left and right.  The shooter may not have been politically motivated to shoot people, but we can all assume there may have been some other external and internal influences that led him to do what he did.

Like I said, I don't think mentall illness and political leanings are mutually exclusive. You can be a crazy a-- right wing republican or a crazy a-- bleeding heart liberal.

When a Congressman is shot at a political rally by someone she doesn't know, I don't see how anyone can argue politics had nothing to do with it.

Maybe it's just me?

are you saying john hinckley shooting president ronald wilson reagan was political.  he laid in wait to shoot president ronald wilson reagan and it had nothing to do with politics.  

I think John Hinckely was insane. However, he may have been trying to make a political statement.

How can you conclusively rule out politics as part of Hinckley's motivation?  :shrug:

I don't think Loughner is insane and I think Loughner was trying to make a political statement.  

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Politics / House Vote to Repeal Health Care Law Futile Symbolic Gesture
« on: January 14, 2011, 08:19:39 AM »
The repeal vote would fulfill a campaign promise of Republicans who won control of the House in November elections. But the measure will likely die in the Senate, where Democrats remain in control.

Even if repeal were to pass the Congress, Obama would veto it, the White House has said.



http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70113W20110113

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Politics / Michael Steele is done
« on: January 14, 2011, 07:22:18 AM »

RNC Chairman Michael Steele's Re-Election Chances Appear to Weaken

.............................

"I think it's a foregone conclusion he's done," said New Hampshire Republican Party Chairman John H. Sununu. "Whether it's his fault or not his fault doesn't matter at this point. It's clear he can't continue to run the committee. The contributors have made it clear. A number of the states have made it clear. People don't have enough confidence in him."

Sununu, who served as White House chief of staff under President George H.W. Bush, formally endorsed Wisconsin GOP Chairman Reince Priebus for RNC chairman on Thursday. Heading into the vote, Priebus has more public endorsements than any other candidate, including Steele.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rnc-chairman-michael-steeles-election-chances-weaken/story?id=12612633

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Politics / Re: arizona gunman was not motivated by politics
« on: January 13, 2011, 10:17:22 PM »
Mr. Montanaro said his friend "was never really political," but "really tried to be philosophical." Mr. Loughner liked "contemplating the meaning of words and the origin of language," Mr. Montanaro said.

That interest might have triggered Mr. Loughner's first meeting with Ms. Giffords in 2007. Mr. Loughner said he asked the lawmaker, "How do you know words mean anything?" recalled Mr. Montanaro. He said Mr. Loughner was "aggravated" when Ms. Giffords, after pausing for a couple of seconds, "responded to him in Spanish and moved on with the meeting."

Mr. Montanaro recalled his friend developed "a hate for government and just how everything was systematic...He thought government controlled people too much."

"I really can't understand why Jared was so interested in Giffords," Mr. Montanaro said. "I imagine it was simply because she was the most accessible

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703667904576071191163461466.html

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As long as ALL schools have equal funding and equal access to quality teachers and resources, there shouldn't be a problem.

That is the only way an initiative such as this can stand up against the Brown v. State of Kansas Board of Education ruling. 

I see where the Tea Party is saying. It would be cheaper on school boards if they go with "neighborhood schools" but as it stands today, not every school currently has the same access to proper funding/resources and quality teachers.

I thought Brown rejected the notion of separate but equal.  Actually it rejected the notion of separate but equal by government edict.

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