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Sports Forum / Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« on: June 30, 2020, 06:34:54 PM »
We are comfortable with who we are.Its much better to be competitive with like schools than to be a nobody with schools not like us. We don't have to apologize or answer to others who want us to be like them... nobodies. Us playing for a national championship just a few years ago means we're where we need to be. When one of our DI schools do better than what we have accomplished we might develop plans for a move up.

There is nothing about us that says we're DI... Nothing.

A few years ago?  Played for a National Championship?  How much money did you make?     :tiptoe:

Sports Forum / Re: MEAC Lost $1.8 Million Between 2017-18
« on: June 30, 2020, 06:49:20 AM »
When dealing with HBCU Digest, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Agree.  Headlines obscure the facts.  Doomsday Digest .

Sports Forum / Re: Big South / UAC Future Conference
« on: June 29, 2020, 09:39:31 PM »
Aimhigh seems to have a chip on his shoulders against the MEAC surviving.  He has no confidence in black people fixing their own conference.  To me, he is saying, "Hook up with the white conference and you will live."  I am sorry but that's what it seems like to me.

The MEAC is not synonymous with Black people. :shrug:

The CIAA SIAC and SWAC are not only surviving but thriving, oh and in part, courtesy of the MEAC. This is not about whose ice is colder. The ice is melting in the MEAC and that is just reality.

Have you seen the numbers from the MEAC last year or past years?  The conference was not lacking in funding and appeared to be in good shape.  With the remaining schools, we still have a conference.  Let's try to rebuild from where we are.  I believe the MEAC is going to be fine.   

ME TOO.  I have that faith in the mission started by LT Walker et al in this conference formation.  Aimhigh and others    :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

So, looking back in hindsight, do you all think the MEAC  should have kicked FAMU and BCU out of the conference a long time ago before Hampton and A&T departed the MEAC?

NO.   Hindsight is monitored with 20-20 vision.  Now, how to improve time and travel for students is not just a  MEAC  problem but mutually inclusive dilemmas that are daunting for conferences across the region and nation. What can we do, going forward to improve time/ travel situation?.   FAMU,BCU were paying bills for travel and lodging coming the distance up here and northern schools reciprocated with same cost going down.  It wasn't as one sided as mentioned on some post. We flew there a few times.  $$$$$$  IT WAS WHAT IT WAS.  Florida schools had the same problems as the rest of the conference.   Fans of MEAC schools loved our Florida conference mates and hated seeing them depart.  They did what was in their best interest which invariably solved the same time/travel for remaining schools when adding cost for all sports that participated.  Unlike a few doomsday persons slugged once and gives up , while others envision new opportunities in the remaining footprint in Mid Atlantic coastal areas. I see opportunities created by the departures.  :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

Sports Forum / Re: Will Georgia ever have a D1 HBCU?
« on: June 29, 2020, 08:03:53 AM »
What is  comical of these post, especially from institutions unable to move steps above high school suddenly having all the answers.  The first and last word on every issue of what you CAN"T do or where you CAN"T go.   Begging you to stay around and roll in his puddle of misery.   Its not a puddle of misery but his level of comfort.  Shame you dare not see his point of minding your business while neglecting his own.  Took a year to fail causing NCAA to raise fees to prevent future attempts of ill prepared  without a master plan.   

Sports Forum / Re: Big South / UAC Future Conference
« on: June 29, 2020, 07:31:44 AM »
WHERE DID ALL THESE COMMENTING LOSERS COME FROM?  WE CAN MAKE MIRACLES HAPPEN TOO.  I know, the ice is colder.  If it is in you to think that way,  IT IS WHAT IT IS.   

A list of self assigned percentages on make believe probabilities as listed above isn't an answer.  Hindsight, always 20-20, doesn't matter other than knowing where the conference can move  to enhance current affiliates positions.  Who to blame?  :shrug:  The nail in the coffin may have been the Southern-FAMU game at Bragg before that raucous full house last year which opened eyes as to possibilities and revenues our Commissioner Thomas  nor council of Presidents could close with the Tallahassee faithful.    Heard about it.  Talk started.  It isn't personal, its business.  FAMU started putting numbers together, what ifs, and concluded loss class time and cost of travel cuts could be advantageous not skipping over Alabama and nearby Mississippi.  It was the smart move for both.  Will miss them. Good folk.  What could the MEAC HAD DONE SOONER.  It was an idea who's time had come.   Will miss FAMU and Bethune's super nice athletic leadership.   POSITIVE GOOD FOLK! 

Sports Forum / Re: MEAC Presser addressing recent departures
« on: June 27, 2020, 06:55:58 PM »
Reading comments reveal where many attended school.  Some folk have a "the world is ending any minute" mindset and others see change as an oppportunity for new growth, new ventures with new challenges , new  excitement and  new friends.  I'm hoping NCCU stay this course by blazing a new trails with  the MEAC.  Many of us, having few facts, toss emotions to this board as all knowing. In hindsight , a bunch of misinformed info pissed from recesses of their minds.   Eagles are incline to look deeper- behind  clouds of words for the FACTS.  Upset with Bethune?    :no:  FAMU?  :no:  A great group with great leadership looking at their facts and finances.  They were able to pay those costs under MEAC leadership but  felt class time loss and travel conditions were catalysts significant to their change. it is what it is.  Some rather listen to gossip than facts because facts are painful.    ;D  I think NCCU and SCSU will stay.  The MEAC is perfect geographically relative to footprints and travel.  There are no NCAA penalties as to number of schools at this time.  We have two years to increase.   ;)
Some may come in as associates in particular sports, as currently happening in the conference.  WE HAVEN'T GONE ANYWHERE AND THE LIGHTS ARE STILL ON SHOULD TEAMS FIND A WAY BACK HOME .    Hoping all turn out well for all involved and to those off this grid , "go back to YOUR porch" 

Sports Forum / Re: MEAC Presser addressing recent departures
« on: June 27, 2020, 01:08:34 AM »
I am listening and feel a lot better.  Looking forward to moving forward.

What points make you feel better

1.  NCCU don't have to join another conference.
2.  The MEAC will continue.  (I know you are sorry to hear this)
3.  Profit sharing for schools will go up. 

 Just to name a few.  Y'all enjoy your new conference.

 EXACTLY!   Never thought so many  would find glee in BCU and FAMU move..    :shrug:    Dr Thomas and Fredericks did a good job of informing the stakeholders within the conference who care about the MEAC achieving its potential.   This was a great presentation.   This conference was started by stalwarts of HBCU institutions.   I want to see their work and legacy continue.   Some here remember those names ,implied.

No one has spoken against the decision of BCU or FAMU.  They are still great  ole friends and we wish them well.   :bow: :clap: :clap: :clap: :bow:

Thomas needs to be commended on the eighteen years positive transfer of funds to conference affiliates.   Commissioner positions are thankless.  Glad he had the transparency of the situation, which left me feeling - it is not that bad.  We will be alright.   As for the consultants. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sports Forum / Re: MEAC Presser addressing recent departures
« on: June 27, 2020, 01:03:29 AM »
I am listening and feel a lot better.  Looking forward to moving forward.

What points make you feel better

Not listening to rumors and outliersl

Sports Forum / Re: Here's the hard unspoken truth about the meac
« on: June 26, 2020, 08:05:28 AM »
FROM LYNCHBURG?  What did you grabble from LYNCHBURG?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sports Forum / Re: Bethune Cookman has made it official
« on: June 26, 2020, 08:02:44 AM »
Thomas is waiting to retire.  Like many lin Athletic leadership around the MEAC.  The strong that blazed the trail  of  its formation are gone.  NOW.  Run like a social club of hired incompetent friends filled with b/s rhetoric- not a business.  Bottom-lines tell it all.  LEADERSHIP  :no: :no:

Liberty University ?  Come on.   They had to know that cultural setting, that even white students find challenging.  They got slapped awake.   If they came from a strong background with good parents ,Liberty would be uphill in turning the other cheek - should you accept four years of being IT.   I wouldn't send my child there as a Black American.  NOT!  If not for the federal funds availed to LU which encourages diversity in student population YOU would NOT have a place on that campus nor welcomed.  If you didn't see that prior to signing, shame on you.    :tiptoe:  Four years of college should be the best four years of your life. It was for me.  Not too late . Correct IT.

Sports Forum / Re: Can the CIAA grab some MEAC teams
« on: June 17, 2020, 03:59:18 AM »
Not going to happen.  The Celebration Bowl is between the two premier conferences of HBCUdom.  The MEAC & SWAC champions.  NUFF SAID!!  We create in our minds scenario for discussion that will not happen nor considered.  A&T, Hampton and Tenn State are OUTSIDE that loop.  Should they win their conferences they are obligated to compete in the FCS national championship playoff.  Celebration Bowl,  a better fit financially for NCCU a school that participated in playoff championship and CBowl.    CBOWL PROVEN FIT.

Facts. :nod: :popcorn:

You'll mess around and be caught flat-footed out here.  Did anyone predict that the MEAC would lose three schools in a span of three years?  It can argued that the MEAC has lost its top two draws in the span of six months.  The friendly business rivalry with the SWAC is a thing of the past. The Big South is openly recruiting member schools. Conference leaders need to be prepared for any possibility.   Overconfidence is often our undoing. 

Does the MEAC still have the leverage to make demands? That's the question.

Sidebar:  NCCU has never participated in the FCS playoffs.  If that's not what you meant, then please punctuate your posts.  Your posts read like Trump tweets.

You are correct.  It wasD2 playoff out in California some time back.  I was told it was an exercise of showing up.  Financially it was a plop! We have not been to the FCS playoff.   Thanks    :clap:

Al Davis is DEAD.  The league REPLETE with minority players (70 %) run by many racist owners in 2020 concerned only with  pockets, hoping they are not murdered going to practice.   (30%) will be okay.   IT IS WHAT IT IS.   I liked Al Davis for irking the racist az-  Pete Rozelle  breaking unwritten rules of position and coaching participation.  Pete hated Al for not holding to the status quo and  spirit of the time. 

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