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welp, looks like the ncaa oversight committee disagrees with a lot of you folk as it pertains to college basketball...

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F--k statistics. These are live human beings we're discussing here. You sound like the people who say that statistically speaking, the police kill more unarmed white people than unarmed black people, when they shouldn't be killing anyone that's unarmed, so let's not protest.

This virus has proven deadly, so if one athlete contract it, that's one too many. Not to mention the serious long-term aftereffects of it.

what about players who get "paralyzed" playing football?  you don't care about that?  what about players who have died from "heat stroke" or the "flu" while playing football, you don't care about them?

it is "proven" that the general public gets infected by the covid-19 virus at a much higher rate than college football players.  college football players are "safer" from covid-19 than the general public and it don't matter if you don't care...
How many players at ONE school had been affected with paralysis? Heat stroke? Flu? Yet, we're reading about multiple student athletes contracting this virus at various schools. Comparing student-athletes to the general public is apples to oranges and a strawman's argument. The right call was made.

first of all, "zero" p5 college football players have been hospitalized due to covid-19 and most fully recover within 10 to 14 days. 

secondly, it don't matter how many players at one school got paralyzed.  but what does matter is how many players "fully recovered" from being paralyzed.  and as far as "heat stroke" and "flu", more players have died from those ailments than covid.

thirdly, it is not comparing apples to oranges relative to football players compared to the general public.  aren't football players members of the "general public"?  of course they are!  so how is that comparing apples to oranges?  college football players are tested waaaaaaaaaay more than the average citizen and college football players are better "protected" than the general public.

ya'll don't want any college football.  so guess what?  if ya'll have your way, college football players are forced to rejoin the "general public" which has a much higher covid-19 positivity rate than college football players...

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F--k statistics. These are live human beings we're discussing here. You sound like the people who say that statistically speaking, the police kill more unarmed white people than unarmed black people, when they shouldn't be killing anyone that's unarmed, so let's not protest.

This virus has proven deadly, so if one athlete contract it, that's one too many. Not to mention the serious long-term aftereffects of it.

what about players who get "paralyzed" playing football?  you don't care about that?  what about players who have died from "heat stroke" or the "flu" while playing football, you don't care about them?

it is "proven" that the general public gets infected by the covid-19 virus at a much higher rate than college football players.  college football players are "safer" from covid-19 than the general public and it don't matter if you don't care...

DO YOU ATTEND TRUMP RALLIES?

do you attend "kkk" rallies?

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So from what I am reading, OldSchoolAggie thinks we have overreacted. Most of us think we have not and the schools/conferences have done the right thing. We can go back and forth til the cows come home. I think we know where everyone stands. :nod:

 ::) and i don't think you can "read".  i stated "at the time the announcement was made", it was not an over reaction.

you folk suppose to have college degrees, but your inability to "read" is a discredit to your alma mater...  :no:

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F--k statistics. These are live human beings we're discussing here. You sound like the people who say that statistically speaking, the police kill more unarmed white people than unarmed black people, when they shouldn't be killing anyone that's unarmed, so let's not protest.

This virus has proven deadly, so if one athlete contract it, that's one too many. Not to mention the serious long-term aftereffects of it.

what about players who get "paralyzed" playing football?  you don't care about that?  what about players who have died from "heat stroke" or the "flu" while playing football, you don't care about them?

it is "proven" that the general public gets infected by the covid-19 virus at a much higher rate than college football players.  college football players are "safer" from covid-19 than the general public and it don't matter if you don't care...

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Wake Forest is spending roughly $75,000 per week on COVID-19 testing for its athletes, Athletics Director John Currie says. And Wake is part of one of the largest medical systems in the state so i'm sure if they could get the same quality test they for cheaper they would.

https://tinyurl.com/y4hju6n5

“And it’s expensive. It’s probably costing us $75,000 a week,” Currie said. “When people say, ‘It’s all about the money in college athletics,’ if it was just about the money, we wouldn’t be spending $75,000 a week to make sure our student-athletes are as safe as possible.”



 :read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/investing/abbott-labs-rapid-covid-test/index.html

Did you read that article? That test was approved on 8/27/20. How was the MEAC and SWAC to know that a cheaper test was gonna be approved a week before the season started? What were the schools supposed do from 1st day of practice till 8/27.

:shrug: what da hail you talkin' bout?  i never said the meac/swac should've played fall football.  so what da hail you talkin' bout?

the question is not whether i read your article,  the better question is whether you read my "first post" under this thread?  because obviously you didn't unless you simply don't know how to "read". i  never said the meac/swac should've played fall football... :shrug:
You just as bad as trump. 

"at the time the hbcu conferences announced there would be no fall football, it perhaps was not an over reaction.  but in "hindsight", absolutely it was an over reaction."

That is what you said.  We need to have you talk to Bod Woodard 18 times.

and i stand "100%" behind that statement.  now, show me where i stated that i "wanted" the meac/swac to play fall football.  and show me where i stated that the meac/swac "should've" played fall football.

nah dude, you're trump!  can't even get your "lies" straight...

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BYU postponed 9/19 game for COVID reasons after playing Navy this week. Someone mentioned VA-VA Tech had postponed game for COVID reasons. Yesterday Auburn had 10 players with COVID issues - 5 are starters. There will be no satisfaction from some until someone dies or there are a lot of folks sick. Then there will be the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth... ::)

:shrug: 10 out of 122 players on the team?  that's a covid-19 positivity test rate of "8%".  the covid-19 positivity test rate for the state of alabama is "16%"!  twice as high as auburn's football team.

so is it safer from covid-19 to walk the streets of alabama than it is to play college football at auburn?  absolutely not!  yet, you're alarmed that auburn has a covid-19 positivity test rate that is "half" of what the state of alabama's is?

heck, auburn's football team's covid results is "way better" than that of the general public in the state they play in.  why hold auburn's football team to a "higher standard" than the general public?

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2020/09/12/auburn-football-reports-2-more-posotive-covid-19-tests-5-starters-quarantine-gus-malzahn/5780416002/

 ::) it's not the positives (test cases) that are the most concerning, although the health and safety of Auburn's players remains paramount to the program's coaches and medical staff. The contact traces represent the biggest threat.

The Tigers have had only 11 players test positive since the start of preseason practice, which is just 9% of its 122-man roster. But those 11 positive have led to 26 total players being isolated.

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BYU postponed 9/19 game for COVID reasons after playing Navy this week. Someone mentioned VA-VA Tech had postponed game for COVID reasons. Yesterday Auburn had 10 players with COVID issues - 5 are starters. There will be no satisfaction from some until someone dies or there are a lot of folks sick. Then there will be the usual wailing and gnashing of teeth... ::)
oldschool aggie would have played last night.

yo momma would've played last night.  how 'bout that?

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Wake Forest is spending roughly $75,000 per week on COVID-19 testing for its athletes, Athletics Director John Currie says. And Wake is part of one of the largest medical systems in the state so i'm sure if they could get the same quality test they for cheaper they would.

https://tinyurl.com/y4hju6n5

“And it’s expensive. It’s probably costing us $75,000 a week,” Currie said. “When people say, ‘It’s all about the money in college athletics,’ if it was just about the money, we wouldn’t be spending $75,000 a week to make sure our student-athletes are as safe as possible.”



 :read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/investing/abbott-labs-rapid-covid-test/index.html

Did you read that article? That test was approved on 8/27/20. How was the MEAC and SWAC to know that a cheaper test was gonna be approved a week before the season started? What were the schools supposed do from 1st day of practice till 8/27.

:shrug: what da hail you talkin' bout?  i never said the meac/swac should've played fall football.  so what da hail you talkin' bout?

the question is not whether i read your article,  the better question is whether you read my "first post" under this thread?  because obviously you didn't unless you simply don't know how to "read". i  never said the meac/swac should've played fall football... :shrug:

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Wake Forest is spending roughly $75,000 per week on COVID-19 testing for its athletes, Athletics Director John Currie says. And Wake is part of one of the largest medical systems in the state so i'm sure if they could get the same quality test they for cheaper they would.

https://tinyurl.com/y4hju6n5

“And it’s expensive. It’s probably costing us $75,000 a week,” Currie said. “When people say, ‘It’s all about the money in college athletics,’ if it was just about the money, we wouldn’t be spending $75,000 a week to make sure our student-athletes are as safe as possible.”



 :read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/investing/abbott-labs-rapid-covid-test/index.html

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The cost of testing is the biggest issue to playing College are averaging 80k per week to test the athletes and staff.

not true, at least it shouldn't be true.  covid testing is now available for as little as $5 per test and the results can be returned in less than an "hour".  we're talking a "total" amount of $500 to test an entire team of 100 players.  what college can't afford that?

Might wanna read up on the price

Article mentions 55 a test

https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2020/covid-testing-ncaa-college-sports-1234610730/

 :read: https://abbott.mediaroom.com/2020-08-26-Abbotts-Fast-5-15-Minute-Easy-to-Use-COVID-19-Antigen-Test-Receives-FDA-Emergency-Use-Authorization-Mobile-App-Displays-Test-Results-to-Help-Our-Return-to-Daily-Life-Ramping-Production-to-50-Million-Tests-a-Month

 :read: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/investing/abbott-labs-rapid-covid-test/index.html

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Virginia v Viriginia Tech game for Saturday will not be held because of an outbreak on the Tech team.
so - no!

game is being "postponed" for a later date, not "cancelled".  and who says there was an "outbreak"?  neither team reported their football team test results.  they're postponing the game based on their "covid protocols" precaustions, not because of a so called "outbreak".  nc state did the same thing and are now scheduled to play uva next week...

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Oldschoolaggie, and you one of those people that if you drove up on gushing water across a street, you would still drive through it?


no "relevance" to that scenario whatsoever.  what i'm saying is that given the statistical data of all of the pro leagues as well as those colleges that are currently playing fall football, you and i have a better chance of contracting covid-19 than college football players because college football players test "positive" for covid-19 at a rate far "less than" the general public.

again i repeat, "statistically" it is more safe to play college football than it is for me and you to walk the streets in the general public because the percentage of college football players that test "positive" for covid-19 is "far less" than the general public. 

plus, college football players get tested several times a week, whereas most of the general public does not get tested "at all".  you and i don't know if we're standing next to someone in the grocery store who has covid, but all college football players know who on their team the opposing team has it and who doesn't because they get tested on the regular...

 :nono2: Did you miss the article I posted about how many college coaches are not following the COVID-19 protocols at all? If my team is following the protocols and your team is not, do you think I want my team playing yours? The bottomline is, players are safer NOT taking a chance on being exposed to the risk of contracting this virus and its aftereffects.

"every team" including the opposing team "MUST BE TESTED THE DAY OF THE GAME".  any player who tests positive "THE DAY OF THE GAME" is not allowed to play!

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The cost of testing is the biggest issue to playing College are averaging 80k per week to test the athletes and staff.

not true, at least it shouldn't be true.  covid testing is now available for as little as $5 per test and the results can be returned in less than an "hour".  we're talking a "total" amount of $500 to test an entire team of 100 players.  what college can't afford that?

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How can it be called an overreaction where you err on the side of safety and caution. Better safe than sorry. If people can ever get their heads out of the money/materialistic sphere, maybe they'll begin to understand.

THANK YOU FOR THIS EXPLANATION. :clap:  SOME FOLKS SIMPLY HAVE NO SENSE OF PRIORITY.  A FOOTBALL GAME IS WORTH NOT A SINGLE LIFE.

:shrug: how many college football players have "died or been hospitalized" due to covid-19?  now, contrast that with how many college football players that have been "seriously injured or died" due to playing football?

it ain't about "money" cuz most college football programs "lose money" every year by playing football.  if anything, colleges "save money" by not playing football.  so for colleges that are not playing football, is it about the "money"?

You only "save" money when you have money coming in and NOT going out. Neither is happening. And even if players don't perish from contrating the virus, who want to be sick from it. It's better to not chance getting sick, don't you think? Too, why should they even risk taking a chance on getting sick just to satisfy someone's fetish for the entertainment of watch football?

dude, playing football in and of itself is a "major risk" to your health, with or without covid.  so its okay for a kid to "break his leg" and wear a cast for multiple months? 

further, a lot of money is "saved" by not incurring the expenses of traveling, staying in hotels, eating out, paying stadium personnel and security, paying electricity/utilities and lighting.  i mean, i could go on and on.

and as far as "sickness" due to covid, i am unaware of "any" college football players who have been "hosptialized" due to severe sickness from covid.  many of them don't even show any "symptoms" and fully recover within a week or two.  there's approximately 100 or more players on each college football team.  how many have been "hosptialized" due to severe sickness from covid?

there is no statistical data that i'm aware of that proves that a significant number of college football players who tested positive for covid became very sick, much less had to be hospitalized.  most college aged students don't get "severely sick" from covid. 

i understand your concern, but so far there's no evidence that i'm aware of that justifies being "fearful" that college football cannot be played relatively safe from covid-19.  as long as the positive test rate for college football player is "below" the general public national average, i don't see what the big problem is.

so far, playing college football is "safer" than walking the streets of the general public...

NC A&T alum Jamain Stephens son Jamain Stephens Jr. just died from Covid.  He played at Cal PA (D2 in the PSAC).

The season was cancelled there, as well as the rest of D2.  Imagine what could have happened if they had been full on practicing and playing games. 

It was the right call to cancel the Fall season.

there are approximately 300,000 college football players in america.  1 player died from covid.  1 out of 300,000?  so cancel the season? 

in the past, college football players have "died" due to severe injuries as a result of playing football.  did they cancel the season because of it?  do you realize how many college football players have been paralyzed due to playing football?  did they cancel the season because of it?  college football players have died from "gunshot wounds", did they cancel the season?

if you had shown me a percentage of players that have died due to covid that's "statistically significant", i would agree with you.  however, do you realize what percentage 1 out of 300k is?  they don't even have enough "decimal places" to show how insignificant 1 out of 300k is...
I bet you are the only aggie with that point of view. 

:shrug: who cares?  i have a "mind of my own", it is not based on what other aggies think.  i don't agree with a&t moving to the big south conference.  but according to you, i should agree with most aggies just because i'm an aggie?  sorry, not this aggie right here.  i have a "mind of my own"...
Most folk want to keep student athletics safe.  You dont care. So you are in the minority.

its not "safe" to play contact football, "PERIOD". some players have been "critically" injured playing college football.  some players have "died" playing college football due to heat stroke, flu, and sickle cell.  so should we stop playing college football altogether?  or, are you saying as long as covid doesn't cause "critical injuries", its ok to play football?

so its ok to "die" playing football if it's caused by heat stroke, flu, or sickle cell?  is that what you're saying?  as long as you don't catch covid-19, you don't care about heat stroke, flu, or sickle cell?  just sayin'... :tiptoe:
Ok donald trump.  Since some at going to get hurt anyway, may as well play.

:nono2:  no!  first of all, "45" doesn't believe in covid-19 protocols, but i do.  "45" doesn't believe in covid testing, wearing masks, and social distancing, but i do.

look, let's make this perfectly clear.  DO NOT ASSOCIATE ME WITH "45" IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER!!  i despise the man and find it very "offensive" that you would imply that i'm "45" just because you don't agree with how i feel about playing college football.

that's very "offensive"!  please don't make me have to fire back at yo a--zz!!
You want them to play like trump wanted people to open the processing plants.  Open up the state.  Get to work. 

oh, okay.  i see that you are not as smart as i thought a college graduate should be.  i "NEVER ONCE" said that i "wanted" colleges to play fall football.  that's just your "assumption".

prove your accusation!  show me anywhere under this thread where i stated that i "want" colleges to play fall football?

see, i'm not going back and forth wasting my time with you on this subject anymore because clearly you can't even "comprehend" what you read...

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