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Sports Forum / Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« on: July 04, 2020, 06:13:08 PM »
I don't know where this "looking down at the CIAA" came from excepting a few on this board.  Never heard it at NCCU excepting when person say "we are all in the same boat"  NO   "We are all the same"  YES,        Programs have to maintain certain sports to remain as members unless an associate member.  Some CIAA members say they don't want be in a conference that is drowning (MEAC)   GOOD.    Don't worry , there are only one or two schools capable of making that leap.  There is nothing wrong with D2 if that is your aspiration in assemblage of institutions in a conference of comparable  academic , research and athletic ambitions including growth in programs and enrollment.  Those aforementioned are foundations all conferences aspire when courting new members.  [/b]NCCU has been courted by PWI.   We have faith in ourselves collectively  producing and achieving and  pulling up our own bootstraps.   If you miss the jist then okay.  Some understand and others hate.   If  A&T FAMU BCU and HU moving to a new neighborhood make you feel put down.  Sorry  to the bottom of a heart as can be as to the CIAA and its choices since there is no dog of mine in those fights.   I'll remain in my lane.  Hoping all reach their highest ambitions and highest potential.  If having an inferiority complex about anythings happening  on another campus causing 55 posts, its YOU not your institution.

It isn't surprising you're the first to respond seeing how you've been called out on more than one occasion for having a superiority complex.  You've even cosigned the "Church League" moniker here:
Went to the game and left after the half.   Too windy and a light drizzle was a bit much.  Mother U fans remained in a warm bed or watched political commercials rather than support the Bears.   They didn't have 300 (and that's pushing it) fans on the home side and WSSU had many vehicles and about 6 buses. Can't be price, because they charged eleven bucks to enter.  $11.00.  Bill Hayes got in hot water once  for parroting a comment from an old friend in jest, and a reporter printed it when referring to CIAA as CHURCH INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION.  Leon Kerry fined him.   But in the long run, Bill was right.  A small 20 miles or less trip and 250-300 show support at a home game.  Shaw has QB issues and were outclassed by WSSU today.  Boulware has more talent - especially at QB.

Sports Forum / Re: Expansion is the talk with CIAA and MEAC....
« on: July 03, 2020, 12:03:36 PM »
nope we good
the CI don't need to board that sinking ship
for years you have been looking down your nose at the CI
as if we were somehow inferior.
now you wanna come back knocking on big mama door for help.  :nono2:

Exactly. Meanwhile the "Church League" is still standing.

Sports Forum / Re: Elizabeth City State lands former SWAC coach
« on: April 11, 2018, 10:10:01 AM »
Personally, I REALLY like this hire.  With regard to our athletic department's financial woes, they are almost entirely a result of decreased enrollment.  When enrollment plummeted from over 3,500 to 1,300, athleitc fees decreased proportionately. 

Jones is a great hire and I look forward to the resurgence of Viking football.

Don't they know  FOX is only interested in using them to convey to white folk that African American are ignorant and are clueless about the issues at hand?  Even if you had a good grasp of the issues, and was able to articulate it,  Fox is going to edit and present it in a way that under minds African Americans.

Yet y'all are glued to the TV every Wednesday night to watch Empire and support FOX.  Rush Limbaugh is a fan of the show so that should tell us something:

"RUSH:  And it is entertaining as it could be.  It's really, really good.  I mean, it's got its share of -- I mean, there's no cultural surprises in it.  It gets in the gutter like every other show does.  But it had a fascinating segment in it. I didn't watch it from the beginning, so I had to binge watch the first five episodes.  So I forget which episode this happened in.  I think it was episode three.  It's about the founder of a record company and his estranged wife who goes to jail for him for 18 years on a drug charge.

As the series starts she's getting out, and she comes back, the record company has grown and it's become this massive thing while she's been in jail. She gets out, she wants her share, which she thinks is half of it, so they set up a battle between them.  They're no longer married, the founder Lucious Lyon is his name, and his wife coming out of prison, but they have kids, and they're both -- well, two of them are performer stars, the other's an executive.  And one of them is a budding up-and-coming thug type rapper.  I have to stop there, but I will tell you what is noteworthy about this when we come back from the break and then get into your theory about what the Republicans have to do.

General Discussion Forum / Re: Change ECSU name to UNC-EC
« on: February 26, 2015, 12:11:13 AM »
When did this enrollment problem start?  Every college is going through the exact policies but enrollments are not dropping.  Finger pointing at the President of the U.S. is not going to solve ECSU's enrollment problems.  Hopefully there is a good plan in place to get more students.  

Where have you been? Check the chart, "Enrollment data for NC HBCUs 2010-13":

General Discussion Forum / Re: News Anchor Crush Tuesday
« on: February 25, 2015, 04:10:10 PM »
Did anyone mention Tisha Powell from WTVD in Durham?  Still fine as wine after having two kids.

General Discussion Forum / Re: Change ECSU name to UNC-EC
« on: February 24, 2015, 06:04:54 PM »
I'm not sure if the suspension is still effect, but as JBROB said we were having a difficult time finding students.

General Discussion Forum / Re: Change ECSU name to UNC-EC
« on: February 24, 2015, 05:51:08 PM »
What the state of North Carolina needs to do is to be fair with the appropriation of state funds so that ECSU can establish and maintain relevant, progressive programs. That will attract the students. What happened to their Pharmacy program of a few years ago?

That could be a thread in itself, but UNC suspended admission to our pharmacy school two years ago.  To be honest, missteps were made by both ECSU and UNC.  One of the biggest setbacks was that UNC wasn't accepting our students as transfers, even those with 4.0 GPAs!  Many of those students went to Campbell U. instead, earned their PharmD's and are doing quite well.

General Discussion Forum / Re: Change ECSU name to UNC-EC
« on: February 24, 2015, 04:03:31 PM »
Notice in the video at 7:45 how when asked about the name change, Tom Ross jumped in and addressed the question instead of deferring to our newly appointed chancellor.  I thought to myself that we are probably looking at the first chancellor of UNC-EC.

General Discussion Forum / Change ECSU name to UNC-EC
« on: February 24, 2015, 01:51:51 PM »
Steinburg: Change ECSU name to UNC-EC

By Jon Hawley
The Daily Advance
Sunday, February 22, 2015

Following in the footsteps of his predecessor in the 1st House District, state Rep. Bob Steinburg last week called on Elizabeth City State University to change its name to prominently feature its affiliation with the University of North Carolina.
Meeting with Elizabeth City and Pasquotank County officials on Friday, Steinburg, R-Chowan, said ECSU could rebrand itself the University of North Carolina at Elizabeth City as a way to reverse dwindling enrollment.
Steinburg acknowledged changing ECSU’s name is a “delicate” subject because it’s tied to ECSU’s history and identity. According to ECSU’s website, the nearly 124-year-old historically black university has been called ECSU since July 1, 1969.
But Steinburg said ECSU’s changing its name to UNC-Elizabeth City would help show it understands its market. He said ECSU is perceived now as a primarily black university, limiting its appeal to its 21-county service area that is majority white.
“We can’t look at this university and say, 'this is our black university;’ this is our university, this is (everyone’s) university,” Steinburg said.

ECSU’s enrollment has dropped by almost half since 2010, going from more than 3,300 to just 1,701 this spring semester. According to UNC data from fall 2011 to fall 2014, the enrollment decline has been across all racial and ethnic categories. At the same time, however, ECSU’s percentages of black and white students — 73 percent and 15 percent, respectively — have remained near constant every year. Approximately 10 percent of ECSU students didn’t share their race or ethnicity with the university.
Steinburg said ECSU needs to leverage the University of North Carolina name to appeal to more students. The UNC name carries great prestige nationwide, Steinburg said, and many students “would love to have UNC on their diplomas.”
While prestige is hard to quantify, “U.S. News and World Report” magazine’s 2014 rankings of higher education institutions have a number of UNC schools in their top 10 lists for publicly funded universities. Several other UNC campuses ranked high in other categories without “UNC” in their name.
ECSU, for example, ranked second-highest in the report among regional colleges in the southeastern U.S. Appalachian State University ranked third and Western Carolina University, meanwhile, ranked 15th among regional universities. The rankings categorized colleges and universities according to the levels of degrees they offer.
The idea of changing ECSU’s name to promote its status as one of 16 UNC campuses isn’t new. In fact, it’s been talked about in the Elizabeth City area for more than 20 years.
The idea most recently came up when Steinburg’s predecessor in the 1st House District, former state Rep. Bill Owens, D-Pasquotank, pitched it in 2009 to ECSU’s Board of Trustees. Owens made many of the same arguments Steinburg is making now. ECSU trustees, however, ultimately decided against the change.
The name-change issue reemerged Friday during city and county leaders’ wide-ranging discussion on local government concerns with Steinburg and fellow lawmakers state Sen. Bill Cook, R-Beaufort, and state Rep. Howard Hunter III, D-Hertford. City officials urged all three legislators to support an additional $6 million in special appropriations for ECSU over two years to cover revenues lost to declining enrollment.
All three lawmakers said they support the additional funding for ECSU, but Steinburg said the university’s position is increasingly untenable.
“Treading water is very, very dangerous,” Steinburg told city and county leaders. “We don’t have that luxury.”
Steinburg conceded including UNC in its name is “not the end all, be all” solution to ECSU’s challenges. But he urged city and county officials to support whatever is necessary to save the university.
Cook didn’t respond to Steinburg’s suggestions on the name change Friday, but he opposed the idea last summer.
Hunter is also opposed to changing ECSU’s name, saying he disagreed with Steinburg’s assertion that the university doesn’t appeal to non-black students. He also said the General Assembly needs to give ECSU and its new chancellor, Dr. Stacey Franklin Jones, more time to turn the campus around.
ECSU officials have attributed ECSU’s declining enrollment to increased testing and higher admission standards and other factors not related to a lack of appeal to white students. ECSU has also taken numerous steps since 2013 to grow enrollment and control costs.
Recent enrollment-boosting efforts include: spending $28,600 on remarketing efforts, notably rebranding ECSU with a large, blue capital “E;” establishing a dual enrollment program with College of The Albemarle, allowing students with low GPAs another way to take ECSU courses; and pushing UNC to allow discounted “border tuition” rates to nearby Virginia residents.
Some cost-cutting moves include laying off more than 80 employees (including three deans), eliminating low-enrollment courses like physics and geology, and consolidating two of its four schools into one.

General Discussion Forum / Re: SCSU will not close....proviso tabled......
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:48:04 PM »
They have to increase enrollment.  They will market State to everyone.  They will cut expenses until they reach the bottom line.  That's how South Carolina works.

This is precisely what's happening at ECSU.  In fact some are saying we are "trying too hard" to recruit white students.

General Discussion Forum / Re: NC HBCUs Struggle
« on: February 16, 2015, 08:10:39 AM »
The Chancellor reported a small glimmer of hope last weekend.  For the first time in five years, ECSU saw a net increase in enrollment from fall to spring semester.  Nevertheless talks of closure are still being heard, as are talks of changing the school's name.

Interesting comments.  Our alumni chapter took two busloads of students to ECSU's Spring Open House over the weekend.  A promotional video was shown with testimonies of current and former students.  I would venture to guess that 80% of the faces on the video were NOT black.  I expected some, as our student body is 17% caucasian.....but 80%?

One alumnus questioned the chancellor about it at the national meeting that followed.  Her response was simply that "we are here to serve everybody."  I can't argue with that.  It's a different world from where we come from.

D1 in name only.

That is the problem with this board, most of these schools are D1 in name only and should be D2. They need to go D2 and join the SIAC or CIAA and call it a day.
Elizabeth City is D2.

And I am all for moving to D3 or dropping athletics altogether if it means keeping our doors open.  Next?
VV, my comment was not meant as an attack on Elizabeth City. I was only pointing out that ECSU participates in D2 Athletics and still has issues.

No offense was taken, my friend.

Political party should not matter because at the end of he day, neither one truly has any love for us. I'm just beside myself right now. Much love SC State.

Exactly...which is why I no longer vote straight Democratic tickets.

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