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Politics / Re: The #ADOS & #MAGA convergence...
« on: Yesterday at 10:42:37 PM »
AggieJazz,

Thanks so much for your contribution to this discussion.  Let's explore, OK?

I believe that this paragraph from the article addresses reparations:

The challenge becomes, making demands without the ability to physically, or economically enforce them, is an act of empty political rhetoric. At best, it represents a gross misunderstanding of how racism and power function; at worst, it is an act of political negligence, ..


Personally, I think that reparations are morally justified and should be paid, but history, logic and common sense tell us there is ZERO possibility that the American political progress will yield them - ever.

If AggieJazz, you and I disagree on that point, we'll have to agree to disagree.

If we agree, then how can we support a "movement" (if ADOS is one) that seems to have as its central tenent that reparations should and WILL be forthcoming?!?!?  An unrealistic and impossible outcome.

Reminds me of the person who asked Farrakhan (during Jesse Jackson's campaign in the '80s) why he didn't run for President of the UDS of A.....

WTH!!  Square pegs, round holes, etc.

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From an email a good friend shared with me:

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PRICELESS! the quintessential pronouncement on Trump.

Someone on Quora asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote this magnificent response:
 
A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of s**t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.


 :read:

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Politics / Re: Finally, Olds..t has a candidate he can believe in....
« on: February 18, 2019, 11:59:04 PM »

#ErraticTrump is briefed on NoKo's missile program by US Intel officials.

#Loser45 says, "I don't believe they fired those missiles.  It's a hoax."

Intel folks tell him that's not "consistent" with intelligence collected by CIA, DIA, NSA, etc.

#ErraticTrump says, "I don't care. Putin told me they don't have that capability and I believe him."
^^ all paraphrased^^

THIS GOES WELL BEYOND STUPIDITY OR IGNORANCE.

It will be denied and McCabe's version will be questioned, but I predict eventually - under oath - others present will confirm what he reported - or at a minimum refuse to deny it.

THE MANBOY IN THE OVAL IS EITHER COMPLETELY AT THE "COMPROMAT" MERCY OF PUTIN OR HE IS MENTALLY DERANGED.

I go with the former, altho his case of narcissism is pathological.

#ErraticTrump is the biggest STOOGE ever to rise higher than dog catcher in the history of American politics.  And the people who refuse to see it are willfully and traitorously blind.

I'll admit that I did not think that Olds..t would sink so low as to support such a betrayer of America.  But as #Loser45 sinks lower into criminality, low-life crime boss behavior and intensifies his destruction of American institutions, Olds..t joins him - gleefully.

SMDH

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Politics / Re: The #ADOS & #MAGA convergence...
« on: February 18, 2019, 11:00:26 PM »
EB,

Thanks again for the links...  I needed to see that.

I came away disappointed with the lack of specific critique of the article.  Lots of general comments and even outrage at the illustration.  But no critical analysis of the article's content, which IS a critical and historical analysis of #ADOS.

I empathize with your own observations in your last post.  And, as you said, debate is essential to reaching clarity.

Y'all,

Essentially, these are ideological issues.

Ideological debates are the most intense because they go to the core of our beliefs AND our interests.  For that reason, those debates easily and often go off track IMMEDIATELY with accusations about motives and integrity.

Nevertheless, I seek engagement on ideological issues to test my own premises and assertions and to learn from others' perspectives with the hope of deepening my own understanding.

So, I invite others to comment on the issues raised in the article in the OP.

I'll start by saying that IMO #ADOS is in actuality "America First - if not only."  By severing the connections between Africans born and raised in the US of A from our own family on The Continent and elsewhere in the African Diaspora, ADOS - consciously or not - puts us at the mercy of American people and policy, neither of which has been sympathetic to us historically.

To say the least.


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Hmmmm...

Didn't McCabe say that #ErraticTrump opened his "interview" bragging about his electoral college victory in North Carolina....?


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Politics / Re: WAS KAMALA HARRIS PART OF THE JUSSIE SMOLLETT HOAX
« on: February 18, 2019, 09:50:43 PM »

The evidence for this article is speculation by a rapper based on his observation of public comments.....

So, you gotta ask...

WAS TED CRUZ' FATHER PART OF THE PLOT TO ASSASSINATE JFK?

WAS #LOSER45'S FATHER BORN IN AREA 51?

DID OLDS..T TELL THE TRUTH THAT ONE TIME?


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From Toni Morrison...



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Politics / Re: Kamala aside The #ADOS movement is petty
« on: February 18, 2019, 02:37:27 PM »
I accept your shakey clarification of what you said about Tamils and I retract my assertion that you disparaged them.  But your stereotyping remains more than problematic - even about them.

Neymar said..


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I have always spoken up for Africans...

Where, dude?

After establishing indelibly your rep for dissembling about what you've said on this Board, you cannot expect ANYONE to take your word for it.

Surely, if you "ALWAYS" have done so, it won't be difficult for you to find examples and give us the links.

Just off the top of my head I can think of several anti-African statements by you and I have already shared them multiple times.

You said (in a foreign language, so - you thought - no one could understand) that Bantus (THE VAST MAJORITY OF AFRICANS) are your sworn enemy, so.... It's a bit difficult for you to balance that out, you know?

Why don't you give up your pretenses and admit that you have allowed the Europeans to mess up your thinking and you have become, like Olds..t, "not so much a believer in white (so-called)supremacy."  Because all the evidence from your own typing says so.

Meanwhile, get your absentee ballot so you can vote for the Conservatives in the UK.

You think putting in CAPS what one (likely biased) family member said makes it true beyond challenge?  Is that how your thinking process works? 

You've had NO comment on the fond recollections of Harris's Jamaican father about the time he spent "grounding" his daughters with their African/Black family in Jamaica.  You started off disparaging that Black man (much Blacker than you in every conceivable way!!) as a 'sperm donor" without ANY knowledge of his role with his family prior to the divorce. 

Then you got the nerve to take offense when someone gives you a dose of your own medicine.

You should be ashamed and should apologize.  But, despite your false claims to admit it when you are wrong, you won't do it.

You told us you wouldn't talk about me that way.  Why?  Because I am here to defend myself?  You only attack those who are not present to respond to your ignorance?  Is that your version of courage, Italian?


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Stop the investigation!!
Don't consider using the Constitutionally-provided processes!!!


These are NOT the statements of INNOCENT people or people confident of the INNOCENCE of those they defend.

An investigation can clear a person of charges.
Considering the use of a Constitutional process is patriotism.


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Politics / Re: NYT's - THEY HATE TO ADMIT IT: TRUMP BORDER REFORMS WORKING
« on: February 18, 2019, 01:43:15 PM »
#ErraticTrump has acted illegally in his treatment of Asylum seekers and immorally in separating children from parents, but..

It has definitely had the desired impact.

Search "cucumber" on this Board for what I said about giving #Loser45 credit for what he does.

His harsh campaign rhetoric seems to have had an effect on reducing the number of people trying to cross the border even before his "policies" were put in place.  It was temporary but border crossings were way down in his first few months.

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Politics / Re: The unresisted rise of Kamala Harris
« on: February 18, 2019, 01:11:46 PM »
I am loving seeing all the BS rationale about this woman. She's got as much chance of becoming POTUS as a snowball falling through hell and landing as a snowball.

Where's her money going to come from to run a full political campaign? Who is her real base of support outside of Cali.

Your ignorance is only exceed by your stupidity.

Harris raised a million dollars the first day after she announced.

How many people attended the "escalator" launch of #Loser45 - NOT COUNTING THE PAID ACTORS?

She had more than 10,000.

Time will tell whether she connects with enough voters, but she's made a good start.  My personal jury is still out.


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I see that after late-night TV ROASTED him for his FAKEASS hair, he has cleaned that crap off his head.

Now,... if he could just clean out his brain.


I'm not buying snopes tortured whitesplaining that this is not a white power sign.  "Miller hasn't been to prison so he couldn't be using an Aryan Nation prison gang symbol." (paraphrase)

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QUOTE FROM TWITTER

Ruth H. Hopkins

@RuthHHopkins

While the Nation honors U.S. Presidents today, I’m celebrating my favorite Chiefs. I’ll start with 1 of my ancestors.

10. War Chief Wabasha II of the Mdewakanton Dakota. There’s a statue of him in MN. He lost an eye. That’s why he looks sorta gangsta. #PresidentsDay



9. Chief Lone Horn of the Minneconjou Lakota. He was an extraordinary man who could chase down a buffalo on foot. His sons were Chief Spotted Elk (Bigfoot), who was assassinated at Wounded Knee & Chief Touch-The-Clouds. Crazy Horse was his nephew.



8. Chief Standing Buffalo. I like him because he was the leader of my grandma’s Sisseton band of Dakota at the start of the reservation era. Talk about style and charisma.


 
7. The renegade War Chief Inkpaduta (Scarlet Point). He led Wahpekute Dakota in resisting the U.S. government. He ran with Sitting Bull and fought at The Battle of Greasy Grass (Little Big Horn). He had scars from surviving Smallpox.



6. Chiricahua Apache Chief Geronimo (Goyaałé). He was one of the last Chiefs to engage in combat against the U.S. military.



5. Chief Little Crow (His Red Nation) of the Mdewakanton Dakota. He led his people in The Dakota War of 1862 after the U.S. broke treaty. He had eagles tattooed on his wrists.


 
4. Tecumseh, a Shawnee Chief who along with his brother who was a prophet, attempted to establish unity among tribes. 

One of my ancestors (Chief Wabasha) fought with him.



UNQUOTE

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Politics / Re: Kamala aside The #ADOS movement is petty
« on: February 18, 2019, 01:36:36 AM »
Neymar,

I think you have been on this Board for 4 to 5 years.

Show me ANY OCCASIONS (a link to your post) where you identified yourself as a person involved in or advocating for Africans/Blacks in America.

In EVERY instance I can remember, you have spoken of yourself as Ethiopian and raised up in Britain.

Now, all of a sudden, you got a hair up your a**  about Kamala Harris' commitment to Black people - apparently due to some stupid prejudice you have against Tamils and Jamaicans, represented by Harris's father.

Adding them to your previous targets: Angolans, Italians, West Africans, Somalis, Bantus and even some Ethiopians....not to mention Pan-Africanists.

Meanwhile, I note you DID NOT SAY you vote in the US of A.....but YOU want to talk about "we can't let her."  GTFOH!!!


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