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« on: Yesterday at 09:38:15 PM »

Hell she knew what she was pointing!!!!!


Ronald DeSantis had just turned 30 when the up-and-coming prosecutor sent a Mayport Navy sailor to prison for six years on child pornography charges. DeSantis’ signature on the 2008 plea agreement was crisp and elegant: A sharp “R” to start; a stately “D” for Dion, his middle name; and “DeSantis” written with an artistic flourish.

Gov. DeSantis' signature as special assistant U.S. attorney in a plea agreement for a court case in 2008.
Gov. DeSantis' signature as special assistant U.S. attorney in a plea agreement for a court case in 2008. [ U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Florida ]

Over the next 13 years, DeSantis’ signature would evolve from the neat cursive of his youth to the hurried one he uses frequently today as Florida’s governor. Along the way, he dropped the middle initial. He altered the look of the “R,” and then switched it back. A quick squiggle and a big swoop replaced most of the letters in his last name.

Handwriting experts say no two signatures from one person are the same. It’s why Florida election officials for years have used all the signatures at their disposal — sometimes more than a dozen — when they authenticate a voter’s signature on a mail-in ballot.

DeSantis wants to rein-in that long-standing practice. Vote-by-mail signatures “must match the most recent signature on file” with the state Department of Elections, DeSantis declared in February. A bill moving through the Florida Senate would make that the law.

Some election officials say limiting signature samples could make it harder to authenticate the identities of voters who choose to cast their ballot by mail. Signatures change over time, they say, and are often affected by the choice of pen, the writing surface, fatigue or a person’s health. A new requirement for a one-to-one match could lead to more rejected ballots.

DeSantis’ own John Hancock has undergone a transformation during his time in government, as demonstrated by 16 of his signatures compiled by the Tampa Bay Times from publicly available sources between 2008 and now.

Experts and election officials who reviewed DeSantis’ signature history for the Times said some of the modifications in his penmanship could have posed trouble for election workers, especially if constrained to one point of comparison. In a handful of instances, it’s possible the ballot could have been rejected, they said.

“It shows why it is better to have multiple signatures for review than to have one,” said Tom Vastrick, a forensic document examiner based in Apopka.

The Times presented DeSantis’ office with his signatures and with a summary of the opinion of the experts interviewed for this story. His spokespeople did not respond to a request for comment on the analysis nor did they say why this change in law is needed.

The new limitations on signature matching are included in a larger bill, sponsored by Sen. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican, that would overhaul mail-in voting. He said comparing the signature on the ballot to the most recent one on file with the state will simplify the verification process.

“It’s the most current and more likely to be how they’re signing things now,” Baxley said. “That is the key.”

The proposal is part of a package of voting legislation that Florida Republicans are pushing this session to the state’s election system, even though DeSantis praised Florida for how it conducted its 2020 election. “The way Florida did it, I think inspires confidence, I think that’s how elections should be run,” DeSantis said at the time.

Yet five months later, Florida has joined other GOP-controlled states in proposing new restrictions on voting, especially mail-in ballots, which former President Donald Trump has ridiculed in his failed bid to overturn the election.

The bill is scheduled for a committee vote Wednesday. Baxley said changes could be forthcoming.

The past and the present
The signature on the state paperwork for DeSantis’ first congressional campaign in 2012 bears only a passing resemblance to the one he often scribbles these days on executive actions.

Richard Orsini, a forensic document examiner from Jacksonville Beach, teaches election officials how to spot the similarities.

The initial downstroke of the “R” in “Ron” is consistent in the two signatures, he said. And the finishing stroke in both samples is a cursive “s” that crosses back over the last name in a clockwise curl. Despite other differences, Orsini said it would be reasonable to conclude these signatures belong to the same person.

Orsini and other handwriting experts cram a lifetime of knowledge into their hours-long training sessions with election workers and canvassing boards — the volunteers who make quick decisions on whether to reject or accept a mail-in ballot based on the signature. One of the pieces of wisdom they impart is the importance of having multiple specimens to make a fair determination.

“If I get a call from an attorney for a contested will, here’s my standard ask of them: I need the best copy of the questioned document signature, and then I need 10 to 20 uncontested, known general signatures that you can find written as close to the date of the contested signature,” Orsini said. “That’s my first request.”

Those additional examples could help election workers if they encounter a signature like the one DeSantis adopted as a U.S. Representative.

Then-U.S. Rep. DeSantis' signature on a letter to then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions in 2017 dated Aug. 3, 2017.
Then-U.S. Rep. DeSantis' signature on a letter to then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions in 2017 dated Aug. 3, 2017. [ U.S. House of Representatives ]

This signature appeared on a 2017 letter DeSantis penned to former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Unlike previous signatures or his current one, the finishing stroke is counter-clockwise, noted Vastrick.

“That really sticks out to me,” he said.

Herb Polson, a former St. Petersburg Council member, had to make determinations on mail ballot signatures when he sat on the Pinellas County canvassing board in 2018 and 2020. He said it would be difficult to match that 2017 signature with the one DeSantis has used more recently.

“If those were the only two I had to choose from, I’d have trouble with those two,” Polson said. “It’s a completely different style of start. That in itself could lead me to say, ‘Huh, that doesn’t look like the one from a year earlier.’ ", a NBC news website, reported on Tuesday that DeSantis’ ballot in 2016 was rejected because Flagler County officials deemed his signature did not match the one on file with the state.

Under Florida law, if a mail-in ballot is rejected, the voter has an opportunity to fix it at their local elections office, a process called a ballot “cure.” DeSantis was able to cure his 2016 ballot in time for the vote to count.

The most recent signature for many voters may be the one they used when they signed their driver’s license at a Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles office. That signature is often recorded on an older digital pad with a stylus — not with a pen, like how a ballot is signed.

Daniel Smith, a political scientist at the University of Florida, studies the application of voter signature matching laws. His research has shown counties often apply signature matching rules unevenly, and students and minorities are more likely to have their ballot rejected because of a mismatch.

“It’s really silly you would want to limit the signature to compare,” Smith said. DeSantis’ “own signatures show the reason for that.”

Instead of limiting signatures or relying on a digital facsimile, it would be more helpful to have people sign their name 10 times in ink when they register to vote, Vastrick said.

In response to these concerns, Rep. Blaise Ingoglia last week tweaked his voting bill to allow election officials to use a signature on file from the past four years. Ingoglia, R-Spring Hill, said the limitation is needed “to make sure there wasn’t signature shopping where you would have 20 different signature iterations going back 20 years.”

State Rep. Fentrice Driskell, a Tampa Democrat, said the amended bill is “better than what we had before” but she added: “It’s trying to fix something that wasn’t broken.”

“Our poll workers have been trained to use multiple signatures,” she said, “and it seems wholly ineffficient to be changing the procedures for them.”

Election security?
Lawmakers, students and teachers surrounded DeSantis in May 2019 when he ceremoniously signed the top policy priority of his first year in office: a massive expansion of the state’s school voucher program. After capping a blue Sharpie, DeSantis flashed the signed bills for the cameras.

If that signature appeared on a mail-in ballot, an election worker would have a hard time matching it to a single sample, said Ion Sancho, the former supervisor of elections in Leon County.

“I’ve witnessed them having problems and this probably would be rejected,” Sancho said. “It’s one of the reasons you need multiple pieces of evidence.”

Polson agreed.

“That is more than a reach for me,” he said. “I would have a tough time giving an affirmative to that.”

DeSantis has often voted by mail in Florida, including as recently as the 2020 August Republican primary. After Trump’s months-long crusade against mail-in voting in 2020, DeSantis has made it his priority to put new restrictions on the popular voting method. Most of the attention has centered on DeSantis’ proposals to eliminate ballot drop boxes and a new requirement that people re-register to vote by mail every year.

DeSantis has said these measures are needed for election security. He has said less about why he wants to change the signature matching rules.

“If there needs to be ways to bolster the signature verification, then we need to do that as well,” he said in February in West Palm Beach.

Smith said limiting signatures could have the opposite effect on election security. Fewer signatures means less evidence to verify a positive match.

“If you’re interested in election integrity, wouldn’t you want more signatures to validate the one that is coming in?” Smith said. “Unless that is really not your intention.”

« on: Yesterday at 05:33:39 PM »
I hope that you filed a written report to his Watch Commander, Chief, mayor, and notified local media.

Quote from: CIAA-FAN on Today at 02:46:16 PM
Keep the following in Mind when responding to anything these two post or respond to.  These are their own words as posted on ONNIDAN

Quote from: oldsport on October 04, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
“......It's me. Just the other personalty. You guys don't believe the s**t I post - do you?  Someone has to be the antagonist.

Quote from: y04185 on May 05, 2010, 10:46:42 AM
".....Another thing, I vote for the person that is best for me and Mrs. y. 
I could care less about other Blacks and other people.  Too bad too many people on board don't understand that.

Cleaned that up and paraphrased it for you CIAA-FAN

« on: Yesterday at 05:27:19 PM »
Stop arguing forgive sake of arguing. You said the same thing he said. smh

An idiot ... :nod:

Nah. :nono2: Never been a fan of rollercoasters or amusement park rides. :no:

As a kid growing up and to this day, I was only interested in the horticulture/agriculture and livestock exhibits and was only interested in the mechanics of the rides and what made them go, but not to ride on them.

That's because you're skurred.

Yeah. About as skurred to show at Richmond Staple Mills train station several times and not see your punk pus sy a s s.

Nah. :nono2: Never been a fan of rollercoasters or amusement park rides. :no:

As a kid growing up and to this day, I was only interested in the horticulture/agriculture and livestock exhibits and was only interested in the mechanics of the rides and what made them go, but not to ride on them.

Republicans angered after over 100 top corporate leaders meet to push back against GOP war on voting

"first-of-its-kind" virtual meeting to plan a concerted response to the Republican-backed voting rights restrictions that have swept the nation.

The move comes amid a fissure between the GOP and Corporate America following the latter's denunciation of HB 202, a sweeping anti-voting bill passed by the Georgia state legislature late last month. When the MLB pulled its All-Star game from Atlanta in protest of the newly-minted law, many GOP Senators accused corporate America of falling into the hands of the "radical leftists."

Last month, when 100 major corporations signaled their opposition to HB 202, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., whose PAC received some $475 million from corporate donors last year alone, told Corporate America to "stay out of politics."

"Our private sector must stop taking cues from the Outrage-Industrial Complex," McConnell said. "Americans do not need or want big business to amplify disinformation or react to every manufactured controversy with frantic left-wing signaling. Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far-left mobs to hijack our country from outside the constitutional order."

During the call, executives from "major airlines, retailers and manufacturers — plus at least one NFL owner" reportedly floated the idea of halting all political contributions to lawmakers that backed any bills designed to suppress the vote, according to Axios. Even more, corporate leaders reportedly discussed discontinuing any investments in states which passed such bills. Among those who attended the meeting were "Arthur Blank, owner of the NFL's Atlanta Falcons; Adam Aron, CEO of AMC Theatres; Mellody Hobson, co-CEO of Ariel Investments; Doug McMillon, CEO of Walmart;  Reid Hoffman, CEO of LinkedIn; Scott Kirby, CEO of United Airlines; Doug Parker, CEO of American Airlines; and Chip Bergh, chairman of Levi Strauss Company, according to CBS.

"The gathering was an enthusiastic voluntary statement of defiance against threats of reprisals for exercising their patriotic voices," Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, a Yale University management professor who helped organize the meeting, told CBS. "They're showing a disdain for these political attacks. Not only are they fortifying each other, but they see that this spreading of disease of voter restrictions from Georgia to up to possibly 46 other states is based on a false premise and its' anti-democratic."

The meeting, which did not amount to any significant action plan, drew sharp rebukes from various Republicans.

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., tweeted on Sunday, "Oligarchy defined: The most powerful corporations in America get together to plan how to control legislation in dozens of states."

"It's kind of scary how major corporations are trying to force policy changes," echoed Fox News contributor Lisa Boothe.

The event comes following reports that corporate America systematically supported many anti-voting bills' state-level sponsors. According to a report by Public Citizen, a government watchdog group, state legislators pushing for voting restrictions have taken in over $50 million in corporate donations over the past several years. AT&T, for instance, gave over $800,000 since 2015 to sponsors of anti-voting measures throughout the country.

"A contribution of $5,000 to a U.S. senator who is raising $30 million is a drop in a bucket. But in some of these state races, a few thousand dollars can buy a lot of ad time," said Mike Tanglis, one of the authors of the report. "If corporate America is going to say that (Trump's) lie is unacceptable on the federal level, what about on the state level?"

« on: Yesterday at 09:08:21 AM »
How do you confuse a fat-handled bright yellow taser with a dark-colored service weapon? And you're a 26 year LEO vet.

General Discussion Forum / Pray for St. Vincent
« on: Yesterday at 08:11:07 AM »
More flee volcano on Caribbean island of St. Vincent

KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent -- More people fled their homes on the eastern Caribbean island of St. Vincent on Sunday as La Soufrière volcano rumbled loudly for a third day and the heavy weight of its ashfall damaged some buildings. Residents reported widespread power failures early in the day, though authorities restored electricity to most of the island by late afternoon.

The eruption Friday of La Soufrière prompted many people to evacuate their homes, and others who had remained in place sought shelter elsewhere Sunday.

The volcano's rumbles were heard in the capital of Kingstown, about 20 miles (32 kilometers) south.

“I’m just here wondering when it’s going to calm down,” resident Kalique Sutherland said.

The eruption could continue for some time, said Richard Robertson, the lead scientist at the University of the West Indies Seismic Research Center.

“It’s likely that at some point it would quiet down and hopefully we would have a break so that we could recover a little bit more, but don’t be surprised if after the break it picks up like this again,” Robertson said.

Elford Lewis, a 56-year-old farmer who evacuated his home on Sunday morning, said the ongoing eruption is worse than the last big one in 1979.

“This one is more serious,'' said Lewis, who witnessed the big eruption decades ago.

An eruption of the 4,003-foot (1,220-meter) volcano in 1902 killed roughly 1,600 people.

About 16,000 people have had to flee their ash-covered communities with as many belongings as they could stuff into suitcases and backpacks. However, there have been no reports of anyone being killed or injured by the initial blast or those that followed.

Ralph Gonsalves, the prime minister of the 32 islands that make up the country of St. Vincent and the Grenadines, has said people should remain calm and keep trying to protect themselves from the coronavirus. He said officials were trying to figure out the best way to collect and dispose of the ash, which covered an airport runway near Kingstown, and fell as far away as Barbados, about 120 miles (190 kilometers) to the east.

About 3,200 people took refuge at 78 government-run shelters, and four empty cruise ships stood ready to take other evacuees to nearby islands, with a group of more than 130 already taken to St. Lucia. Those staying at the shelters were tested for COVID-19, with anyone testing positive being taken to an isolation center.

Nearby nations, including Antigua and Grenada, also offered to take in evacuees.

Sports Forum / Re: Let's GO JACKSON STATE!
« on: Yesterday at 03:47:16 AM »
MilesBear1, you're alright with me!!🙌🏾🥂

Sports Forum / Re: Eddie George to Tennessee State
« on: Yesterday at 03:41:05 AM »
College Football World Reacts To Jeff Fisher News

After several years out of the NFL, former head coach Jeff Fisher is back in the football world, this time with the Tennessee State Tigers.

Fisher has been hired to serve in an advisory role to help with staff hirings at the FCS program. The move brings him back to Nashville, the city where he led the Tennessee Titans for 14 of his 17 years with the organization.

It also reunites Fisher with former Titans running back Eddie George, who was hired as head coach of the Tigers despite having no prior coaching experience. George was one of the engines behind Fisher’s best years with the Titans, rushing for over 10,000 yards and 64 touchdowns in his first eight seasons.

Fisher has already gotten to work on bringing some familiar faces to Tennessee State. His son, Brandon Fisher, is reportedly already on board as defensive coordinator.

The reaction to Fisher’s hiring has been mixed. While most people are critical of Fisher as a coach, many people seem to respect Eddie George reaching into the NFL ranks to build his staff.

But the overwhelming majority of responses are 7-9 jokes – the NFL regular season record Fisher is infamous for attaining in three of his five seasons with the Rams before his firing in 2016.

Tennessee State have not had a winning season in several years. Perhaps the all-star staff Eddie George is trying to assemble can fix that.

Do you approve of Eddie George and Tennessee State bringing Jeff Fisher on board?

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