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I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

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Nope, got to get a new team. Morgan or NCCU. I am an unrestricted free agent.

It this wasn’t so painful for me that chit would be funny.

All I can hope for now is that NCCU, NSU, and SCSU will join us.

I know y’all got to be tired of traveling to Florida and Delaware.

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Sports Forum / Re: List your signees here for 2020
« on: February 05, 2020, 03:55:49 PM »
You guys signing all these ballers and A&T got nothing.

We suck!! They may have to drop the program.

What’s the point of being the largest HBCU in the country if nobody wants to play ball here.

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: February 04, 2020, 08:20:16 PM »
No pride we made an offer, WSSU declined and made a counter offer. We declined.

For 2000, we needed a home game for Sept 5th.

Our next opening is 2022, 2023 and 2024. Might wanna get on the phone and tell your AD

We already have Elon on board for 23 and 24

Just outta curiosity,,,,,,,,what were the terms A&T offered WSSU to come to A&T, as opposed to the terms WSSU accepted from NCCU to go to NCCU?

We offered 60K to play us in Greensboro. You have to remember it was a different AD then as well

So, NCCU is paying WSSU more than 60K to play them in Durham?


The Rams will get $40,000 plus incentives based on ticket sales.


“We will get a block of tickets to sell here on our campus and there’s an incentive in the contract based on how many tickets we sell,” Walker said. “We want to make sure our fans have a chance to go to the game.”

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/wssu/wssu-n-c-central-will-play-football-in/article_c7cc054b-3237-5565-9286-26b88c776972.html

Can't exactly compare the two.  NCCU's stadium has a listed capacity of 10,000, A&T's stadium has a listed capacity of 21,500.  So A&T stands to make a lot more off of a game with WSSU than NCCU.

Honest question, did Norfolk State pay ECSU the same amount of money they pay VA State?

Your question about ECSU and VA State is so far over those dogs’ heads they cannot comprehend it.

Nah we get it. But like it has been said time and time again, WSSU has no leverage in the situation. Things are great in Greensboro.

Things might be great for you all in Greensboro, but at the end of the day money talks.  Last time WSSU played at A&T the stated attendance was a sellout at 21,500.  Here are the numbers of the other home games against non FCS schools you all have hosted since you lasted hosted WSSU in 2010.

2011 VUL – 11,659
2012 WVSU – 7,084
2012 VUL – 10,852
2013 VUL – 21,500 (HC)
2014 Chowan – 13,184
2015 Shaw – 13,828
2016 St Augs – 11,381
2017 Mars Hill – 12,827

As you see, outside of when you hosted VUL for homecoming, your non FCS games aren't coming close to a sellout.

Both schools are on different trajectories, and the game doesn't benefit either team from a D2 Playoff or Celebration Bowl perspective.  But you are lying to yourself if you believe A&T couldn't use a guaranteed sellout, especially knowing that they will charge near homecoming game prices for tickets.

Your data is correct but your viewpoint is skewed. We have had 2 non HC sellouts since 2010 WSSU and 2017 NCCU. We still are making 125K a home game and led the MEAC in attendance last year.

Money is flowing in Greensboro. We have brought in over 2.5 million from the Celebration Bowl , plus donations are at an all time high.

We are ok. Would it be great to play WSSU for nostalgia sake yes. But they have no leverage nor can make demands. You either take it or leave it. And for now they choose to leave it. I saw offer them 75K and if they say no be done with it.

Asking to split the gate is DUMB and doesn't benefit A&T at all.

$75K....chiiiiiit ! I don’t see it. What we offered was fair...if they don’t see it that way then we keep it moving.

The rams are still living in times long past and are under the illusion that things have not changed...they are wrong !

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: February 04, 2020, 01:10:16 PM »
No. We would put more people in the seats vs A&T than NCCU due to stadium size mostly.

So because your fans want to come to A&T , we should pay you more. Bwhahaha , this logic is exactly why we aren't playing

Pay no attention to ram logic...they really think we owe them something. They keep on begging, but we don’t need them...they want home and home, or a large part of our gate. It’s insane !!!

Meanwhile they cutting programs at the D2 level and we winning conference championships, bowl games, and knocking off FBS schools.

We haven’t scheduled a D2 school in a while, but if wssu don’t want the check others will gladly take it.

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: January 30, 2020, 10:32:18 AM »
;D Awwww, Aggies, you mean yall couldn't schedule WSSU for that home opener? Maannnnn..... :shrug:






***running out the door after starting some chit***


 :blush:

LOL!! Oh you wrong !

We don’t schedule D2 teams named wssu...unless it’s on our terms.

I’m sure the rams will make it back on A&T’s schedule once they come to their senses.

They willing to travel to NCCU but not A&T. They can go kick rocks. We don’t need them and they know it.


According to some of your faithful on this board the offer for WSSU to come to A&T has been off the table for years.  So if that's the case then maybe it's not a question of WSSU being willing to travel to A&T.  We have NCCU on the schedule, and we had a game scheduled with Hampton but that got cancelled when they moved to the Big South.  So it's obvious that the administration at WSSU is willing to collect a check to travel.

Yep, but it’s the size of check...wssu demands more than the standard D2 payout...so the we would gladly take the same deal they signed with nccu.

Oh well, until they come to their senses no game for the rams.

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:16:24 AM »
;D Awwww, Aggies, you mean yall couldn't schedule WSSU for that home opener? Maannnnn..... :shrug:






***running out the door after starting some chit***


 :blush:

I swear there were some Aggies on this board who said A&T doesn't schedule D2 schools anymore.  Made the argument that D2 wins don't help for the MEAC tiebreaker...

I don’t have a problem with it, but it’s true that it doesn’t help in the tie breaker at all. This could be critical as the MEAC race get tight by the end of the season.

I hope this doesn’t bite us in the butt...that said given the number of teams available to play us at home at the start of the season Shaw is not a bad choice.

We have history with them at so many levels.

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: January 30, 2020, 09:01:19 AM »
;D Awwww, Aggies, you mean yall couldn't schedule WSSU for that home opener? Maannnnn..... :shrug:






***running out the door after starting some chit***


 :blush:

LOL!! Oh you wrong !

We don’t schedule D2 teams named wssu...unless it’s on our terms.

I’m sure the rams will make it back on A&T’s schedule once they come to their senses.

They willing to travel to NCCU but not A&T. They can go kick rocks. We don’t need them and they know it.

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Sports Forum / Re: 2020 NCA&T Football Schedule
« on: January 30, 2020, 08:56:58 AM »
As long as they play in the MEAC they will always have a weak schedule. There are two assss beatings for sure and maybe one additional in conference assss beating (FA&M). They might be the National Champs of the MEAC and SWAC, but they are not HBCU champs since "ALL" HBCUs can't participate. They are not our King since we can't vote.  :no:

8-4 at best
7-5 at worst

You need to let all that AGGIE hate go! It’s not good for your health.

You got issues with A&T’s schedule because wssu ain’t on it. You got issues with the MEAC because wssu couldn’t hang in that league and had to leave.

The rams are trapped behind a blue shadow, and blinded by the golden glow of our success.

Good luck next season in the CIAA.

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Politics / Re: Obama had more class and did not demean the office
« on: January 22, 2020, 03:58:51 PM »
While I did not always agree with Pres. Obama's position or agree with how he tried to placate the republicans, I will always respect him because he carried out his duties with dignity and deference to the office.  That sack of sh!t in there now will never have my respect.  ::)

^^^THIS^^^

Our previous presidents seemed to understand that the office was bigger than them. You didn’t have to like their policies or them as people...but you always had respect for the office.

That’s what’s been lost with the Trump Administration. He doesn’t care about his legacy or seem to understand the idea that the office will exist long after he is gone.

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Politics / Re: TRUMP MANAGES TO DRAG LSU INTO THE IMPEACHMENT MESS
« on: January 18, 2020, 11:14:36 AM »
I don’t see it that way at all. Ain’t nobody gone vote for Trump because Wildman visited the Whitehouse.

Seriously, what does he win if I accept an invitation :shrug:

I have to agree with Wildman...I have respect for the office. You don’t have to like Trump to think it’s an honor to visit or be invited to the White House.

The LSU Football team making a visit won’t change my vote one bit...my mind is made up on the guy.

We got to stop politicalizing everything.

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As much as I would like to disagree, there is some merit to your statement.  I had a deacon to ask me where was I going to college?  I told him SSC.  He then told me that you can't get a job after you graduate.  Not only did I get a job, I obtained my MPA degree after getting old.

I can agree with that on some levels but I can't hang my hat on it as being the definitive reason. Here's what makes me challenge that notion. Except for the problems at ECSU, which has been corrected, public HBCUs in NC have record enrollment.  If black kids are running for HBCUs, it seems they all would be suffering.  The problems at SCSU appears to be local.

Then look at the other HBCUs in SC? It makes no sense what so ever for your two private schools to be larger than your public school. The equation is upside down, you will not see that anywhere else in the country.

This is spot on! At A&T and other NC HBCUs we can’t build dorms fast enough. For some reason Black people have turned their backs on SCSU.

On would think enrollment from just the local community would be larger than a 1,000. What is going on ??

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We can dismiss how popular this guy is all we want, but despite my dislike for him I’m very aware that half the nation seems solidly behind him.

If he puts together the right combination of states again he will get re-elected because the democrats don’t seem to have a plan or a clue right now.

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It goes beyond sports broadcasting...I’ve noticed it’s very prevalent in many woman’s sports as well.

My daughter is 10 and very active in sports. The girls around her look like...well, girls.

I’m not sure what happens by the time some get to college or the pros but they start to look like and emulate the guys.

Once that happens I lose interest...

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General Discussion Forum / Re: Lizzo?
« on: January 01, 2020, 09:40:39 AM »
wake me when her 15 minutes are up!   ::) :no: :snicker
:lol:......yeah, wake me up too.

Not trying to be mean or anything, but I don’t think she’s “talented”. I think she’s grotesque.  :shrug:

Old people did it when I was young, and I guess now that I’m getting up there in age it’s becoming my job too...but somebody gotta hold the line. LOL !!

Young people are gonna push boundaries...that’s normal. They are too young to even consider some of the consequences of their actions. 

With that said, this anything goes...it’s OK as long as it makes me feel good thing that a lot of young people have going on goes too far at times.

I didn’t watch the videos...I’m not interested in seeing her fumble, bumble, twerk, or anything else.

Just makes you wonder if there is anyone in her life that says...”people don’t see how talented you are when you acting the fool”.

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