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Politics / Re: Accused Russian agent Maria Butina likely to plead guilty
« on: December 10, 2018, 07:39:34 PM »
Not good... (unless she is cooperating, which is highly UNlikely) She's Cooperating!!!

A guilty plea means no revelations by testimony and documents showing the alleged betrayal of the country by members of the GOP and the NRA.

Hopefully, Mueller's report will also include this info.


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https://thehill.com/homenews/420672-alleged-russian-agent-pleads-guilty-to-conspiracy-agrees-to-cooperate-with

Alleged Russian agent pleads guilty to conspiracy, agrees to cooperate with authorities: report

Gun rights activist and alleged Russian agent Maria Butina is agreeing to plead guilty to conspiracy in a criminal case against her, according to ABC News.

ABC News reports that as part of a deal with prosecutors, Butina will admit she and an unnamed person "agreed and conspired, with a Russian government official ('Russian Official') and at least one other person, for Butina to act in the United States under the direction of Russian Official without prior notification to the Attorney General."

The news network added that Butina agreed to cooperate with federal, state and local authorities as part of the deal.

The report comes the same day federal prosecutors and defense attorneys asked a federal district court judge to set a plea hearing at the court’s earliest convenience.

Butina was indicted in July on charges of acting as an unregistered agent of Moscow.

Butina has been accused of acting as a Russian agent in an attempt to infiltrate organizations such as the National Rifle Association, and using personal connections to advance Russian interests.

She was charged by the Department of Justice “with conspiracy to act as an agent of the Russian Federation within the United States without prior notification to the Attorney General."

ABC News reported that sources have identified the unnamed person, who is referred to as “U.S. Person 1,” as Republican operative Paul Erickson. Butina reportedly had a multiyear relationship with Erickson.

The “Russian official” appears to be Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Russian Central Bank and an aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin, ABC News reported.

The agreement said that under the direction of the “Russian official,” Butina “sought to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics.”

Butina signed the agreement on Saturday. The deal says that the conspiracy charge she is pleading guilty to carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison.

Her cooperation will mainly focus on her interactions with Russian handlers and the role Erickson played, according to CNN. A plea hearing will take place on Wednesday.

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http://digg.com/2018/epa-asbestos-trump

These Mutha Friggers care more about a green $$ Bill than they do about anyone's health and well-being

     JUST PURE EVIL


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Politics / Re: TRUMP WILL NOT BE THE GOP NOMINEE FOR 2020
« on: December 09, 2018, 05:46:52 PM »
Trump is a great poker player. I know he's holding some aces and will spring them on these MF..ers when the time is right. Just watch - you DYAM IDIOT.

Fascinating!!!!!

Since you claim #ErraticTrump "is a great poker player" (despite his failure as a casino owner!!!!!), please provide a couple examples of him doing what you said.

We'll wait...


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She-It!!! Don't Hold Your Breathe BISON66!!!


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There is nothing more clear than that Republicans do not believe in Democracy.

A Republican who doesn't believe in democracy is a fascist in the vein of Hitler.


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There is nothing more clear than that Republicans do not believe in Democracy.


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there is nothing that the white man can do that y04185 does not agree with and support in words and deed. But let a black person say something against that and he has a hissy fit.

Malcolm X if he were alive would bitch slap you for that gif you have...and the Fruit of Islam would finish the job.


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As we say in Dominoes, all money ain't good money... :no:

SoFloRattler My Parents Taught Me That With Crystal Clear Illustrations to Support Their Perspective...



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You people.

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This is unconscionable. Any lovers of freedom who still live in the Detroit area should patronize the 1917 American Bistro as frequently as they possibly can. Don Studvent is simply a businessman. Period. He wasn’t making a political statement by catering the Trump event. He was just plying his trade and earning a living. But the totalitarian left wants to crush all dissent, and destroy anyone and everyone who dares even to show any humanity toward those whom it hates.



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And so Studvent’s business is being boycotted. Boycotters “are saying that because of Trump’s rocky relationship with the Black community, no Black-owned business should do business with him or his family members.” What rocky relationship? Black unemployment is at record lows. But the facts don’t matter to the left.

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Chef Don Studvent, a Black business owner in Detroit, Michigan, is under fire for catering an event for Donald Trump’s son. His 7-year old restaurant, the 1917 American Bistro, serves well-prepared dishes ranging from grilled shrimp, salmon and chicken to blackened or deep-fried catfish. But they are facing a potential boycott by other African Americans and other protestors against Donald Trump’s presidency….

People began accusing him of “selling out” and postings on Facebook started to appear calling for people to boycott his restaurant and catering service[/size].

Its Called Holding Them Accountable, Sell-Outs Would NOT Understand This... 

Wise People Know That After the 1955 Bus Boycott (Rosa Parks) in Montgomery Alabama that their is a way to defeat, influence or pressure those that Show No Regard, No Respect or Consideration for "Non-Whites"- its a bargaining chip that commands respect called an Economic Boycott...  It's the most powerful tool available to the "Have Nots", "Where, With Whom and How They Spend Their Money"...

If the Y-ite People in Detroit that supported Donald Trump, supported the 1917 American Bistro, then what the "intelligent blacks" did would not have mattered "One IOTA"... 

If however, the owners "did not understand or know or respect the sentiments of his core business sustainer's or clients, that is his/her and/or their fault - thus their business failed...

Always Know Your Clients, Not Just Those "One Time Customers" - One Feeds Your Family For Years, While The Other Gives You Notoriety For The Moment... 

You Must Know Who Matters the Most 

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The Wisconsin power grab is part of a bigger Republican attack on democracy

The GOP’s turn against democracy may be a greater threat to the American experiment than President Trump.

By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com  Dec 6, 2018, 10:10am EST

The Wisconsin Republican Party is nullifying the results of the 2018 election.

On Wednesday morning, the Republican-controlled state legislature passed a bill that would seize key powers from incoming Democratic Gov. Tony Evers, who defeated incumbent Gov. Scott Walker in November. Walker is expected to sign it in the coming days.

The bill blocks Evers’s ability to change state welfare policy and withdraw from a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act — two things he campaigned on. It limits the state’s early voting period, a move that would make it harder for Democrats to win future elections. And this is all happening during the lame-duck session before Evers takes power, rushed through quickly in an explicit effort to weaken Democrats and prevent the new governor from doing what he was elected to do. In essence, Wisconsin Republicans are telling the state’s voters that their preferences will be ignored.

This would be troubling enough if it were a one-off. But it’s not.

Michigan Republicans are currently weighing similar plans, and both are following in the footsteps of North Carolina Republicans, who passed a power-stripping bill after a Democratic victory in the 2016 governor’s race. State Republicans in three of the country’s most vital swing states are displaying open contempt for the most basic principle of democracy: that when you lose an election, you have to hand over power to your opponents. The national party hasn’t condemned these power grabs, giving the state legislatures tacit permission to rewrite the rules.

These power grabs highlight one of the most disturbing facts about American politics today: The Republican Party has become institutionally indifferent to the health of democracy. It prioritizes power over principle to such an extreme degree that it undermines the most basic functioning of democracy.

In the long run, the GOP’s turn against democracy could well be a greater threat to the American experiment than anything President Donald Trump has done.

Why the state power grabs are so scary
The specifics of the power-stripping efforts vary from state to state — my colleague Tara Golshan has a great explanation of the details in each case — but share a fundamentally similar structure. Each one curtails the governor’s ability to make changes to Republican-backed policies like welfare work requirements, and political rules like campaign finance regulation. Republican-controlled legislatures are given enhanced powers to block governors’ moves through measures such as handing them control over state bureaucracies. And these bills all happen during lame-duck sessions, specifically subverting the results of elections that just happened.

Republican legislators sometimes bill the laws as high-minded protections of the separation of powers, but no one is fooled. The goal is to prevent Democrats from overturning Republican policy initiatives and electoral rules that help Republicans win statewide elections.

Wisconsin Speaker of the House Robin Vos was quite clear on this point during the debate over the bills. At one point, he warned Republicans that if they don’t pass the power grab, they “are going to have a very liberal governor who is going to enact policies that are in direct contrast to what many of us believe in.” That “very liberal governor” had of course just been voted in by the people of Wisconsin, presumably to enact the policies he had campaigned on.

To understand why this is especially troubling, we need to take a step back and think about the purpose of a democratic political system.

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Democracy is premised on the idea that political power is only legitimate when exercised with the consent of the governed. But in reality, people disagree about fundamental political and moral issues; no elected government will ever have 100 percent support of the population, or anything close to it. The purpose of a democratic political system is to bridge that gap: to create a system for resolving these disagreements that everyone thinks is fair. That way, everyone will accept the outcome of the election as basically legitimate even when their side loses.

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The post-election power grabs amount to Republicans declaring that they no longer accept that fundamental bargain. They do not believe it’s legitimate when they lose, or that they are obligated to hand over power to Democrats because that’s what’s required in a fair system. Political power, to the state legislators in question, matters more than the core bargain of democracy.

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Now, a certain level of working the refs is inevitable in a democratic system. American politicians, as Georgetown’s Matt Glassman notes, have always tinkered with the system’s rules to give themselves and their favored policies a leg up. For instance, Democrats in Massachusetts back in 2004 tried to amend the rules for Senate vacancies to make sure that then-Gov. Mitt Romney couldn’t appoint a Republican to the Senate if then-Sen. John Kerry won his bid for the presidency.

But literally stripping powers from officials of the opposing party after they win elections goes well beyond this kind of tinkering. It’s nothing less than a rejection of the idea that the people should get to decide who rules them, a point that many political scientists were quick to highlight after the Wisconsin bill passed.

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“By undermining the results of the midterms, the GOP makes a mockery of the notion that elections matter,” Jaime Dominguez, a political scientist at Northwestern University, told me via email. The Wisconsin law is “a breathtaking assault on the most basic democratic norm: the willingness of the loser of an election to let the winner rule,” Yascha Mounk, a fellow at Harvard scholar who studies democratic breakdown, tweeted.

There’s also a broader context. Republicans have, for years now, engaged in a systematic and nationally coordinated effort to rewrite the rules of the political game in their favor. What’s happening in Wisconsin and Michigan is only the latest manifestation of a broader anti-democratic trend, which in the past decade or so has become part of the party’s identity.

The spread of extreme partisan gerrymandering and voter ID laws, tools used by Republicans to marginalize minorities and other Democratic-leaning constituencies, are the most obvious examples.

The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) wrote draft legislation that Republican state legislatures around the country quickly and easily adapted into their own voter ID laws. Another effort, Project REDMAP, an initiative of the Republican State Leadership Committee, was a national coordinating committee helping Republicans at the state level put together extreme partisan gerrymanders in the wake of their sweeping 2010 victories.

In both cases, Republican or GOP-aligned organizations at the national level spearheaded a campaign to systematically undermine the fairness of the electoral system. It’s the flip side of the Wisconsin-Michigan-North Carolina laws: Instead of trying to nullify Democratic victories after they happen, they’re trying to change the system so Democrats can’t win in the first place. At times, they’re even honest about it.

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“I think electing Republicans is better than electing Democrats. So I drew this map in a way to help foster what I think is better for the country,” North Carolina state Rep. David Lewis, chair of the legislature’s redistricting effort, once said in defense of his gerrymander.

And there is simply no parallel on the other side. While state Democrats have certainly gerrymandered — Maryland being a particularly egregious case — it’s not nearly as nationally systematic as it has been on the Republican side. And Democrats certainly have not engaged in large-scale efforts to suppress Republican voters or strip powers from Republican officials after they win office. Republican officials don’t seem to feel constrained by the basic, principled norms of democracy the way that Democrats are.

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“There’s really an assault on electoral fairness, I would say, in Republican-governed states,” Daniel Ziblatt, a Harvard professor and author of How Democracies Die, tells me. “It’s really only in Republican-governed states where this has taken place.”

Republican indifference to democracy is a threat to the system
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For most of American history, elections have not been free or fair. Vast swaths of the country were not permitted to vote based solely on their race or gender. Even after voting rights were inscribed in the Constitution, Jim Crow laws and campaigns of racist terrorism prevented African Americans from exercising the right to vote. It’s only recently, really since the 1965 Voting Rights Act, that the United States even approximated a fully egalitarian democracy.

And that’s what makes these Republican moves so alarming. It’s not that Republicans are anti-democratic, in the sense of wanting to tear down American democracy and replace it with an authoritarian alternative. It’s that they’re democracy-indifferent, unconcerned with the fact that their pursuit of power echoes some of the undemocratic practices we’ve seen in both American history and failing democracies abroad.

In Hungary, a once-vibrant democracy I visited recently, the ruling Fidesz party has spent the past eight years building an electoral system that quietly eliminated democratic competition without having to nakedly rig the vote counts.

Parliamentary districts were redrawn and gerrymandered to give Fidesz a leg up. The new constitution packed the country’s courts, creating new seats that Fidesz Prime Minister Viktor Orbán filled with loyalists. Civil servants were fired en masse, and Fidesz allies were installed in vital roles, like election supervision. Hungary’s state broadcaster was brought under the control of a new media board, and its editorial outlook began to mirror Fidesz’s positions.

No single one of these moves destroyed democracy in Hungary. Cumulatively, though, they created a system in which it was very difficult for the opposition to compete on a fair playing field. Minor changes to the political and electoral system, each one potentially defensible on its own terms, amounted to an attempt to undermine the functioning of the democratic system.

The parallels with what Republicans are doing in the states are obvious. And while the 2018 election has proven that America is not even close to this far gone — Democrats won about 40 seats in the House — there’s a risk that this Republican anti-democratic behavior will escalate if it proves successful. (In fact, one could argue, it already has: The Wisconsin and Michigan bills are building on North Carolina’s example.)

There has not been a hint of hand-wringing from President Trump or Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell or outgoing House Speaker Paul Ryan (who happens to be from Wisconsin). They do not object because they do not object: The past few years have shown that the national Republican leadership is perfectly fine with power grabs, and at times willing to back them.

“Once partisan goals trump democratic commitments, everything is on the table,” writes Brendan Nyhan, a political scientist at the University of Michigan. “Scholars of democratic erosion know how dangerous this situation can be,”

It’s not clear what the bottom is — when more responsible Republicans will start to see that they’re walking down the same road as authoritarian political parties like Fidesz. Is the Republican Party too far gone, too willing to countenance anti-democratic behavior, to be able to reform itself?

If that’s the case, then American democracy is in serious trouble.

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These Mutha Friggers have always cheated, lied, killed and pillaged to have their way... 

                                 "There is nothing new under the sun"

...EXCEPT FEDERAL AND STATE INVESTIGATORS ARE ON THE SCENE ND THE HOUSE DEMS ARE CALLING FOR AN INVESTIGATION. LOOK FOR A NEW ELECTION TO BE CALLED.  :nod:


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These Mutha Friggers have always cheated, lied, killed and pillaged to have their way... 

                                 "There is nothing new under the sun"

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Politics / Re: I respect trump's decision...
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:30:12 PM »
Trump is better reciting Apollo Creed.


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Politics / Re: I respect trump's decision...
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:29:07 PM »
IF that was the case, I'd agree.

However, there's not a doubt in my mind that he does not know or remember the words.

It means nothing to him because it does not praise him.


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Politics / Re: I respect trump's decision...
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:28:32 PM »
...not to recite te Apostle's Creed. After all the Apostles were followers of Jesus Christ and since trump thinks he is better than Jesus why would he recite something of his followers???? [sarcasm]  trump looked as out of place on that row of presidents as a "booger in the potato salad".  While I did not agree with all of their politics I did respect the dignity they showed/tried to show in office unlike the sack of isht that currently sits in the office.  ::)


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