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Criminal charges per administration since 1970:

TRUMP: +100 (so far)
OBAMA: 0
GWB: 16
CLINTON: 2
GHWB: 1
REAGAN: 26
CARTER: 1
FORD: 1
NIXON: 76

If you're counting:
R's: 220
D's: 3

https://twitter.com/Airvooocht/status/1091037037451505665?s=19

STOP LYING!!! 

The Republicans are the Party for True Christians & Bible Thumpers and they Promote the Righteousness and Truth of our Lord and Savior...

Your Count Must be Inaccurate and just plain wrong!!!

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Bison66, You are a Beast when it comes to "True History vs His-Story"...

Just know this great work will be a part of your legacy my brother...





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QUOTE

 Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, wrote a letter in late March to Attorney General William P. Barr objecting to his early description of the Russia investigation’s conclusions that appeared to clear President Trump on possible obstruction of justice, according to the Justice Department and three people with direct knowledge of the communication between the two men.

The letter adds to the growing evidence of a rift between them and is another sign of the anger among the special counsel’s investigators about Mr. Barr’s characterization of their findings, which allowed Mr. Trump to wrongly claim he had been vindicated.
UNQUOTE

So far, so good, but...

I think Mueller wimped out in more than one way.

If he is not willing to testify in PUBLIC about his findings and his disagreements with Spin Doctor Barr, then it will another example of him wimping out, IMO.


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https://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php?topic=145160.msg1079163#msg1079163


It is impossible to summarize precisely, without bias or omissions, 400 plus pages of legal documents of this "scope and magnitude" into an accurate 4 page synopsis...

I predict that once the House of Representatives receive the actual entire Mueller Report from the Dept of Justice in an Un-Redacted form, that US Attorney Barr will asked to "step down from his post" at best and/or he will be severely reprimanded/chastised for the conclusion he purported, at a minimum...

Something is amiss...

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30,000 really?  So, you just lump all misconduct together, even the misconduct involving alcohol and drug use.


There is still roughly 670,000 cops in America. Using your number, that is still only 4% of officers. Looks closer to one bad apple than systemic misconduct.  :shrug:

•Less than 10% of officers in most police forces get investigated for misconduct.
(same article) that could just mean, someone deemed the complaints to be unworth of investigation, not that only 10% were bad apples

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/04/24/usa-today-revealing-misconduct-records-police-cops/3223984002/

Wildman78 you seem to be a metrics man (accounting, engineering, computers or some other STEM area maybe your forte - I'm not certain, but I am taking a SWAG)

I posted the story on the racist 12 cops in Alabama specifically to address your "bad apple" low percentile analogy...  4% of 667,000 officers definitely don't make it a systemic problem, with this I concur...

But I would highly recommend looking at the damage the 12 officers did to the lives of 1,100 (that's one thousand, One hundred) minority men (in US) incarcerated on false pretenses along with their families and love one's due to the actions of 12 racist cops...

That 12 racist cops to 1,100 harmed individuals incarcerated is a fkcu'd ratio, if I ever saw one...  That's a 1-92 ration of harm to innocent people... 

That doesn't say anything about other egregious acts these racist cops may have perpetrated upon minorities, including harassment and/or any of the other unlawful act that they were not investigated for...

If everyone of these 85,000 cops did what the 12 racist cops in Alabama did, we would not be debating this issue from a metrics perspective...  And even if each one only cause one innocent to go to jail and it was your child, grand kid or other family member - I am certain that the percentage of bad apples argument would not be one you would give a "rats arse" about...

We all know bad behavior and getting away with it, breeds more and bolder bad behavior - add the badge and the protection of "code blue" behind it and you have the proverbial "molotov cocktail"...

As I said, my wife did this for 10 years, and the stories I heard and those from the former Police Chiefs would make your blood curdle...  I have no appetite for the bad apples, they put a scarlet letter on the backs of honorable law enforcement officers and they divide the community into "Us versus Them" factions...   

I want them to be "exposed" and prevent from all enforcement/security, gun carrying and badge using professions - period...  No more going to another county or another state or to the federal government or a security company and continuing to practice your "art of deception and delusion upon the general American public...

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Politics / Re: Did anyone notice this about Trump
« on: April 28, 2019, 01:16:35 PM »
Bump...

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Racist police in Alabama planted drugs and guns on over 1,000 innocent Black men


Black men in Alabama were racially profiled and made criminals by a group of racist police. According to the Henry County Report,  the incidents occurred in Dothan, Alabama where at least 12 White police officers involved.

The officers were a part of a narcotics team and were supervised by Lt. Steve Parrish, who is now Dothan’s Police Chief, and Andy Hughes, Asst. Director of Homeland Security for Alabama. The officers would target innocent Black men and plant drugs and weapons on them. Black men would be arrested and charged by District Attorney Doug Valeska. Valeska knew that the drugs were being planted and continued to prosecute while protecting the officers.

Nearly 1,000 innocent Black men were arrested and falsely prosecuted and many of the Black men who were falsely arrested are still in jail serving time.

Beginning in 1996, the families of the Black men who were convicted began to complain. However, they were often ignored.

Click link for the rest of the story

No Assualts, No Violence, No Thefts, Just Plain Dishonesty

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Alleged Russian agent Maria Butina sentenced to 18 months in prison on conspiracy charge

Washington (CNN)A federal judge sentenced Russia national Maria Butina to 18 months in prison on Friday, after she pleaded guilty to trying to infiltrate conservative political circles and promote Russian interests before and after the 2016 presidential election.

She is the first Russian citizen convicted of crimes relating to the 2016 election, though her efforts to infiltrate Republican circles appeared to be separate from the Kremlin's sweeping election-meddling campaign.

The 30-year-old gun rights enthusiast has been incarcerated since her arrest in July and will receive credit for the nine months previously served. She will be deported to Russia after serving her sentence.

"This was no simple misunderstanding by an overeager foreign student," Judge Tanya Chutkan said.

Chutkan said that Butina, who studied at American University in Washington, engaged in work on behalf of a Russian official that was "sophisticated" and "dangerous."

"The conduct was sophisticated and penetrated deep into political organizations," Chutkan said.

Butina spoke for five minutes at Friday's hearing, her voice at times breaking, as she expressed regret for her crime and asked for forgiveness.

Click link at top for the rest of the story...

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We found 85,000 cops who’ve been investigated for misconduct. Now you can read their records.

John Kelly and Mark Nichols, USA TODAY
Updated 1 hour agoA


At least 85,000 law enforcement officers across the USA have been investigated or disciplined for misconduct over the past decade, an investigation by USA TODAY Network found.

Officers have beaten members of the public, planted evidence and used their badges to harass women. They have lied, stolen, dealt drugs, driven drunk and abused their spouses.

Despite their role as public servants, the men and women who swear an oath to keep communities safe can generally avoid public scrutiny for their misdeeds.

The records of their misconduct are filed away, rarely seen by anyone outside their departments. Police unions and their political allies have worked to put special protections in place ensuring some records are shielded from public view, or even destroyed.

Reporters from USA TODAY, its 100-plus affiliated newsrooms and the nonprofit Invisible Institute in Chicago have spent more than a year creating the biggest collection of police misconduct records.

Click the Link at Top for the Full Story and to Search for police discipline records

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We found 85,000 cops who’ve been investigated for misconduct. Now you can read their records.

John Kelly and Mark Nichols, USA TODAY


At least 85,000 law enforcement officers across the USA have been investigated or disciplined for misconduct over the past decade, an investigation by USA TODAY Network found.

Officers have beaten members of the public, planted evidence and used their badges to harass women. They have lied, stolen, dealt drugs, driven drunk and abused their spouses.

Despite their role as public servants, the men and women who swear an oath to keep communities safe can generally avoid public scrutiny for their misdeeds.

The records of their misconduct are filed away, rarely seen by anyone outside their departments. Police unions and their political allies have worked to put special protections in place ensuring some records are shielded from public view, or even destroyed.

Reporters from USA TODAY, its 100-plus affiliated newsrooms and the nonprofit Invisible Institute in Chicago have spent more than a year creating the biggest collection of police misconduct records.

Click the Link at Top for the Full Story and to Search for police discipline records

For the record, I am married to a former Police Officer and have 4 friends that were Police Chiefs in North Charleston SC, Columbia SC, Charlotte NC, and Durham NC...  My household supports law enforcement big time, however we are disgusted by the behavior of "bad cops" and we find their shenanigans despicable...

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Loyalty to GOP Party supersedes their commitment to US Constitution and to their constituency...

A lack of consistency on the issue of "witness tampering", means these bias Mutha Friggers are not to be trusted to protect the interest of the country as a whole - they care more about one another and their re-election to public office, than they do "about us" (the US Citizenry in general)...


Where I come from, people like that, who practice a "Double Standard" are called "Two  Faced Dogs"...

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Politics / Re: Did anyone notice this about Trump
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:09:21 PM »
He sent his condolences for the church in france- but said NOTHING about the burned churches in Louisiana.

But of course, Agent Orange/Cadet Bone Spurs is a Y-ite Man, what else should one expect...

Do you remember Trumps apology to the "Central Park Five" - I think not!!!

This is just more of the same - to always be expected - behavior from a man that said, there were good people on both sides, after the "White Nationalist Violence in Charlottesville, VA"... 

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Something is amiss...


Well, the news networks are reporting that William Barr failed to adequately portray the findings of their inquiry... 

NOW WE GO TO SCHOOL!!! 

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K----s and their socialist/communist allies in hope. Barr will redact the s**t out of the thing...for good reason.



yeah the good reason is your president is guilty as sin.

It is impossible to summarize precisely, without bias or omissions, 400 plus pages of legal documents of this "scope and magnitude" into an accurate 4 page synopsis... 

I predict that once the House of Representatives receive the actual entire Mueller Report from the Dept of Justice in an Un-Redacted form, that US Attorney Barr will asked to "step down from his post" at best and/or he will be severely reprimanded/chastised for the conclusion he purported, at a minimum...

Something is amiss...  

 

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