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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 10:54:17 PM »

I have lived in the Birmingham area for the last couple of years and I am still trying to understand the decision to keep Legion Field.  I understand the history of the place but it does not seem feasible to keep it.  Legion Field, which is owned by the City of Birmingham, is a complete dump and in need of major repairs and upgrades.  The City of Birmingham, a city of 200,000 people and a declining population and tax base, has invested in the new beautiful downtown stadium, 47,100 seat Protective Stadium, and still trying to justify being in the business of sports tourism and maintaining a 71,500 seat stadium.  How does competing against your investment make sense? 

I'm trying to figure out why the city voted to build a brand new stadium instead of simply upgrade Legion.

Maybe it's because Legion is in the hood.

That's been addressed. Cost

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Sports Forum / Re: SWAC Commish Addresses Birmingham Games

« on: Yesterday at 10:45:18 PM »

Dude this is already in the original thread

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 09:59:11 PM »

What gets me, no one did any type of survey to see how fans really feel about this decision. They just made this decision on their own without any feed back from the fans themselves. Entitled Black folks who think that they know what is best for other Black folks in general.

I just had that same discussion with a friend.

My exact quote:

"All that means absolutely nothing to fans. Because they are kept in the dark and made to be suspicious.  I've been in sales for the majority of my life, and if there's one thing I've learn. You can have the best product in the world.  But if you don't let anyone know what it is and how it benefits them, you're not going to sell a whole lot of them. Your customers are your lifeblood"

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 09:57:06 PM »

Now this makes more sense. Had our perspective AD's properly communicated this with their fanbase. There properly wouldn't be as much push back.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i4rptYxVsZQ&feature=youtu.be

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 08:59:43 PM »

The difference between you and I is that I know the actuals. I let you go by what you Google for

Where did you get that lie? We gross close to a million dollars off of the classic.

From what I gather from both fan bases, the schools make a whole lot of money (ticket sales, parking and concessions) from the game. It is also a very big cultural event for the region. I can definitely understand their frustration.

This deal just didn't happen overnight. Black people don't think out of the box and have no vision. The SWAC commissioner is trying something different. Why do black people always gotta bring the negative to situations. Whew lawd help my people.

You online Athletic directors are funny. You haven't even seen what the contract has in it and you're calling it stupid and for folks to be fired. Y'all worst then Trump supporters.

Bruh, I am very interested to see the proposed package.

I can't see the schools payout being much more since they don't even pay their own two state schools much over 300k each year. Regardless What the payout is the results are the same. Losing a home game and local business losing millions. The commissioner stated that these are going to be non conference games. So other than being bored, what's my incentive to drive 8 hours to Birmingham? To watch a game that in the big scheme of things is an exhibition. How do our local businesses recoup their losses?

Surely I don't have to explain to you what gross is. And if it's a lie. It's a lie told by your own in a full page article

So what you're saying is gross means something different when you google it?

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 08:43:01 PM »

There is a online petition that has been started to keep the BOOM BOX classic at the schools. WOW

That makes a hell of a lot more sense then writing ESPN corporate and telling them you would rather play for free and ego over a million dollars

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Sports Forum / Sam Shade leaving Pinson Valley to become head coach at Miles College

« on: Yesterday at 04:49:05 PM »

Former Alabama standout Sam Shade leaving Pinson Valley to become head coach at Miles College

Former Alabama standout and Pinson Valley head coach Sam Shade is heading back to college.

Shade has been named the new head coach at Miles College, according to multiple media outlets.

In two years as head coach at Pinson Valley, Shade led the Indians to a 21-6 overall record and the 2020 Class 6A state championship.

He also coached 2020 Mr. Football Kool-Aid McKinstry, now at Alabama. He has not immediately returned text messages or calls from AL.com.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/2022/01/former-alabama-standout-sam-shade-leaving-pinson-valley-to-become-head-coach-at-miles-college.html

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 03:56:07 PM »

Where did you get that lie? We gross close to a million dollars off of the classic.

From what I gather from both fan bases, the schools make a whole lot of money (ticket sales, parking and concessions) from the game. It is also a very big cultural event for the region. I can definitely understand their frustration.

This deal just didn't happen overnight. Black people don't think out of the box and have no vision. The SWAC commissioner is trying something different. Why do black people always gotta bring the negative to situations. Whew lawd help my people.

You online Athletic directors are funny. You haven't even seen what the contract has in it and you're calling it stupid and for folks to be fired. Y'all worst then Trump supporters.

Bruh, I am very interested to see the proposed package.

I can't see the schools payout being much more since they don't even pay their own two state schools much over 300k each year. Regardless What the payout is the results are the same. Losing a home game and local business losing millions. The commissioner stated that these are going to be non conference games. So other than being bored, what's my incentive to drive 8 hours to Birmingham? To watch a game that in the big scheme of things is an exhibition. How do our local businesses recoup their losses?

Surely I don't have to explain to you what gross is. And if it's a lie. It's a lie told by your own in a full page article

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 03:03:18 PM »

From what I gather from both fan bases, the schools make a whole lot of money (ticket sales, parking and concessions) from the game. It is also a very big cultural event for the region. I can definitely understand their frustration.

This deal just didn't happen overnight. Black people don't think out of the box and have no vision. The SWAC commissioner is trying something different. Why do black people always gotta bring the negative to situations. Whew lawd help my people.

You online Athletic directors are funny. You haven't even seen what the contract has in it and you're calling it stupid and for folks to be fired. Y'all worst then Trump supporters.

Bruh, I am very interested to see the proposed package.

I can't see the schools payout being much more since they don't even pay their own two state schools much over 300k each year. Regardless What the payout is the results are the same. Losing a home game and local business losing millions. The commissioner stated that these are going to be non conference games. So other than being bored, what's my incentive to drive 8 hours to Birmingham? To watch a game that in the big scheme of things is an exhibition. How do our local businesses recoup their losses?

I agree with all of this.

Also, can we get clarity in whether FAMU was named Southern's permanent cross-divisional rival? I think that I'd where the root of all of this fuggery lies.

I haven't heard anything about that. So I can't answer that.

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 02:57:04 PM »

From what I gather from both fan bases, the schools make a whole lot of money (ticket sales, parking and concessions) from the game. It is also a very big cultural event for the region. I can definitely understand their frustration.

This deal just didn't happen overnight. Black people don't think out of the box and have no vision. The SWAC commissioner is trying something different. Why do black people always gotta bring the negative to situations. Whew lawd help my people.

You online Athletic directors are funny. You haven't even seen what the contract has in it and you're calling it stupid and for folks to be fired. Y'all worst then Trump supporters.

Bruh, I am very interested to see the proposed package.

I can't see the schools payout being much more since they don't even pay their own two state schools much over 300k each year. Regardless What the payout is the results are the same. Losing a home game and local business losing millions. The commissioner stated that these are going to be non conference games. So other than being bored, what's my incentive to drive 8 hours to Birmingham? To watch a game that in the big scheme of things is an exhibition. How do our local businesses recoup their losses?

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Sports Forum / They aren't even hiding what their intent is anymore.

« on: Yesterday at 02:42:09 PM »

https://twitter.com/FCSNationRadio1/status/1486032411607531522?t=DB2p02k314KElgQqJyqHow&s=19

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 02:35:01 PM »

Okay, what's the deal? It would have seem like they would have placed the benefits of this package deal up front before creating all of this negative feed back.

That's when you know the deal ain't really chit. Or at the very least not worth the move except for Birmingham

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 12:20:51 PM »

This chit isn't going to sit well with our fans. I can tell you that right now.

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 12:12:47 PM »

@JafusThinker I need you to explain the logic in this. Because at face value it makes absolutely no sense.

The upcoming series of “SWAC Classic” football games in Birmingham are projected to feature the Jackson State University Tigers led by FCS Coach of the Year Deion Sanders versus the University of Arkansas-Pine Bluff led by head coach Doc Gamble in 2022 followed by Jackson State versus Southern University led by head coach Eric Dooley in 2023 and 2024.

The City of Birmingham will provide incentives and in-kind services to SWAC in an amount not to exceed $200,000 in year one and $300,000 in years two and three of the agreement in which the game is played at Legion Field Stadium.

“I want to thank the council for working with me to make this a reality,” said Birmingham Mayor Randall L. Woodfin. “Our city is steadily becoming the home to some of the best sport events in the state and the region. This is a win for Birmingham and a win for SWAC.”

https://www.rocketcitynow.com/article/sports/uapb-jackson-state-and-southern-will-play-future-games-at-legion-field/525-551d0acf-27c1-4c40-bd2b-0ff054900d95?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Mo_Carter

If this doesn't work, it could damage the Southern and Jackson State rivalry, like what happen when a SU board member had the bright idea of moving our home game to Jackson, MS to capture the larger attendance numbers.  Like I previously stated, robbing Peter to pay Paul is not the way to do business. Not only those schools lose a home game, but it take away revenue from businesses near those schools.

Exactly

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Sports Forum / Re: Birmingham considers more SWAC Football

« on: Yesterday at 11:59:27 AM »

I can see them getting with the state and making the two Bama schools each playing an additional home game at Legion Field, but making other schools outside of Alabama move their home games should be a no-no. JSU might be fine with that since they are closer, but SU is not as close.  I think the SWAC is trying to help the City of Birmingham justify a need for Legion Field in order to save the Magic City Classic.   

?  Bruh, the Magic City Classic needs to be saved about as much as the Bayou Classic.  There are only two things that affect the MCC, COVID and extremely bad weather.  For a while our crowds were bigger than the Bayou and you all play in a Dome.

      Bayou        MCC
2019  68314        37852 (Rain/T-Storms - 70%)
2018: 67,781       65906
2017: 66,550       61,879
2016: 67,845       70,813
2015: 62,507       63874
2014: 57,852       67,710
2013: 47,385       63113
2012: 45,980       58201
2011: 40,715       66473


They are trying to save Legion Field not the MCC Classic.

Using schools in other states is not the way to save Legion Field.  Basically, Birmingham wants the SWAC to shift the cost burden on schools in other states.  Make schools in Alabama play a few of their home games there, such as Auburn and Alabama.  I'm sure Alabama schools wouldn't like if a conference made their schools move their home games to the Superdome or a stadium in Texas.

Though I'm not totally sure it seems they are trying to use a model like the SWAC/MEAC challenge, except strictly with SWAC schools  I also believe that if the schools come to Birmingham they would be compensated as they would be if they were in a classic.  I doubt if they would ask Southern to come to Birmingham on their own dime or if the commish would even fall for that.

Yes that's what going on. Commissioner McClelland spoke about this and our own BOTB on more then one occasion.  But for a  measley 2-300k??