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Title: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: TIGER1 on December 24, 2014, 05:11:58 PM
http://www.eonline.com/news/609132/michael-sam-says-very-few-gay-nfl-players-have-reached-out-to-him-but-there-s-a-lot-of-us-out-there
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL JAY on December 24, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
And that is their choice
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on December 24, 2014, 07:41:25 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on December 24, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 24, 2014, 09:34:58 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance. 

His problem is that he does not play special teams and since he only has one skill set which he is not elite at he probably will need to go to Canada
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: BisonBlu on December 25, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance. 

His problem is that he does not play special teams and since he only has one skill set which he is not elite at he probably will need to go to Canada

I don't understand why he thinks that he is above everyone else and that others should go out of their way to connect with a rookie.  This is not how the NFL works.  This is not college at the end of the day these are grown men who go home to their families not back to their dorms to play madden and study together.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: lew9ball on December 25, 2014, 10:29:39 AM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:
I have to agree with u YOGI....sometimes u have to keep that "flapper" close to get and maintain what u what... :-X  yes CLOSED!!!.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Decks on December 25, 2014, 11:27:24 AM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance. 

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 25, 2014, 11:51:36 AM
Sam thought he had it made because of his announcement before the combine. Sam is not that good, he has limited skills and he tries to bring attention to himself which does not play well in the NFL if he played basketball that would play a little bit better
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on December 25, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Meh.

I think Sam coming out was important whether he made a roster or not.

It said a lot that prominent players on the St.Louis Rams spoke highly of Sam's play, work ethic and demeanor while in camp. Jake Long and Coach Fisher said Sam was anything but a distraction. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 25, 2014, 10:50:50 PM
It said a lot that prominent players on the St.Louis Rams spoke highly of Sam's play, work ethic and demeanor while in camp. Jake Long and Coach Fisher said Sam was anything but a distraction. 
What else would you expect them to say?  That they would even have answer such questions is proof enough that it was in fact a distraction.  They were most likely giving their answers directly from a script entitled: "how to keep a lid on this distraction"

There have always been homosexuals in the NFL and there will certainly be more.  By which gender you wish to be sexually gratified has absolutely nothing to do with the game.  It shouldn't be made into an issue or a platform.  You have the right to be gay.  You just don't have the right to play NFL football.   
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on December 25, 2014, 11:10:02 PM
It said a lot that prominent players on the St.Louis Rams spoke highly of Sam's play, work ethic and demeanor while in camp. Jake Long and Coach Fisher said Sam was anything but a distraction. 
What else would you expect them to say?  That they would even have answer such questions is proof enough that it was in fact a distraction.  They were most likely giving their answers directly from a script entitled: "how to keep a lid on this distraction"

There have always been homosexuals in the NFL and there will certainly be more.  By which gender you wish to be sexually gratified has absolutely nothing to do with the game.  It shouldn't be made into an issue or a platform.  You have the right to be gay.  You just don't have the right to play NFL football.   

Long said on Twitter (not in front of cameras or to a reporter) the press, namely ESPN, was making more out of it than anything. Other than that, teammates who spoke to the press said Sam pretty much behaved just like everyone else in the lockeroom and on the field.

Sam wasn't being a distraction in that case as much as the media was when there was really no issue at all.


Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 26, 2014, 09:21:36 AM

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

How do you kow they were french kissing? But back to Sams he was never going to be a 1st 0r 2nd round pick regardless. He is undersized and projected 3rd-5th round pick. But folks also forget Sams had a bad combine and personal workouts. I do agree he could friction in a locker room from the perspective if another player that has pull in the locker room thinks Sams is looking at him in the shower or coming out of the shower
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 26, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
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Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 26, 2014, 10:40:06 AM
Sam wasn't being a distraction in that case as much as the media was when there was really no issue at all.
There is no doubt that the "distraction" was mostly media driven.  Even if Sam was blame free in this regard, to a money making NFL franchise, a distraction is a distraction.  Then again, Sam wasn't entirely blame free.  He had to be talked out of his planned reality show.  Remember?  Then when he said he wouldn't host cameras in his home on draft day, that quickly changed and then came the orchestrated kiss.  For whatever reason, gay pride or an attempt to manipulate his draft status, Sam embraced the platform and became a rallying cry for those promoting the lifestyle.  Once he got on a team, things quieted down... because then it was business.  However, now that he won't likely get another chance in the NFL, the Oprah blame tour begins.  I actually feel quite sorry for the man.  If his number one priority was to play in the NFL, any guidance he was receiving in this regard was absolutely terrible.

I actually believe the NFL encouraged teams to draft Sam, and the Rams (who had late round picks to spare) obliged.  My guess is that when compensatory draft picks are announced for free agency, the Rams are going to do better than expected.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 26, 2014, 11:01:40 AM
My guess is that when compensatory draft picks are announced for free agency, the Rams are going to do better than expected.

No there is a formula. The formula is based off of free agents lost. Basically franchises that lost more free agents than they signed in the previous year will be awarded draft selections to make up for the losses
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on December 26, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Sam wasn't being a distraction in that case as much as the media was when there was really no issue at all.
There is no doubt that the "distraction" was mostly media driven.  Even if Sam was blame free in this regard, to a money making NFL franchise, a distraction is a distraction.  Then again, Sam wasn't entirely blame free.  He had to be talked out of his planned reality show.  Remember?  Then when he said he wouldn't host cameras in his home on draft day, that quickly changed and then came the orchestrated kiss.  For whatever reason, gay pride or an attempt to manipulate his draft status, Sam embraced the platform and became a rallying cry for those promoting the lifestyle.  Once he got on a team, things quieted down... because then it was business.  However, now that he won't likely get another chance in the NFL, the Oprah blame tour begins.  I actually feel quite sorry for the man.  If his number one priority was to play in the NFL, any guidance he was receiving in this regard was absolutely terrible.

I actually believe the NFL encouraged teams to draft Sam, and the Rams (who had late round picks to spare) obliged.  My guess is that when compensatory draft picks are announced for free agency, the Rams are going to do better than expected.

Blame tour?
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Jaggrad on December 26, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
Maybe for Michael Sam this is MORE than just Football.............. :shrug:

Granted if it were me... I would have shut the hell up a long time ago..  But I give him his Props for standing up for what he believes in!   :nod:

And yeah... He is an average player to me... :shrug:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 26, 2014, 04:20:18 PM
No there is a formula. The formula is based off of free agents lost. Basically franchises that lost more free agents than they signed in the previous year will be awarded draft selections to make up for the losses
Yeah, that entitles you to such picks.  However, the precise formula for the round number and amount of picks is not made public.

Blame tour?
He already inferred to TMZ that he's not in the NFL because he's gay.  Where else do you expect Oprah to go with that? 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 26, 2014, 04:37:04 PM
No there is a formula. The formula is based off of free agents lost. Basically franchises that lost more free agents than they signed in the previous year will be awarded draft selections to make up for the losses
Yeah, that entitles you to such picks.  However, the precise formula for the round number and amount of picks is not made public.

Looks pretty public to me

https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/03-24-14-compensatory-picks.pdf
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on December 27, 2014, 01:32:37 AM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 27, 2014, 01:30:49 PM
Looks pretty public to me...
The results are made public... but okay... humor me.  Based on what you linked, how are the round numbers determined for each pick?  How are the picks then ordered in those rounds? 

Or if you still can't grasp what I'm trying to explain to you, just go here:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003927-nfl-compensatory-picks-2014-rules-formula-explanation-and-latest-projections
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Cats4ever on December 27, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
No there is a formula. The formula is based off of free agents lost. Basically franchises that lost more free agents than they signed in the previous year will be awarded draft selections to make up for the losses
Yeah, that entitles you to such picks.  However, the precise formula for the round number and amount of picks is not made public.

Blame tour?
He already inferred to TMZ that he's not in the NFL because he's gay.  Where else do you expect Oprah to go with that? 
Believe that 5-10% of the people in the world is gay, so it is no surprise that we have some gay football players in the NFL.  It could be 5 or more on every team in the NFL, so his situation is not new in that a gay man is playing football; he is just the first one who wants to be honest about it.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Capler on December 27, 2014, 03:17:32 PM
I listen to  a lot of conservative talk radio, and you know those hosts and callers say the exact thing about African Americans. If I agree with what many of y'all are saying about Sam, then I would be forced to agree with what they are saying as well. I'm not saying you Cats are wrong in your opinions, but some of those conservatives are also making valid points that many of you are so quick to write off.  To paraphrase, many conservatives feel African Americans need to grow up,  deal with the real world, address their own short coming that hold them back,  and stop assigning blame and making excuses. Isn't this what many of you are saying about Sam?  :shrug:

It may not be that Sam is gay but is simply not qualified. Many African Americans may be in the same boat. I believe America is all about money. If you are black or gay and can make the white man some money, they don't give a damn about anything else. If you are a black man with money, you're getting in the country club. If you are a gay man in the NFL and can get your team to the Super Bowl, he will have every homophobe in America riding his jock strap.

Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 27, 2014, 04:08:47 PM
Capler your second paragraph sums it up nicely. If SAMs could help teams win Super Bowls they would have picked him up if he was from mars with two heads. Everyone talked about his pass rush. But how was he against the run???? If you are one dimensional it's hard to make the NFL gay or straight.

Also why were other gay players required to reach out to him???? Maybe they wanted their private lives to remain private and not be a part of his circus. His a**  needs to be gay and move on because his 15 minutes are up.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: DES on December 27, 2014, 10:29:36 PM
Capler your second paragraph sums it up nicely. If SAMs could help teams win Super Bowls they would have picked him up if he was from mars with two heads. Everyone talked about his pass rush. But how was he against the run???? If you are one dimensional it's hard to make the NFL gay or straight.

Also why were other gay players required to reach out to him???? Maybe they wanted their private lives to remain private and not be a part of his circus. His a**  needs to be gay and move on because his 15 minutes are up.

He is not even an average NFL rusher
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on December 27, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
Capler your second paragraph sums it up nicely. If SAMs could help teams win Super Bowls they would have picked him up if he was from mars with two heads. Everyone talked about his pass rush. But how was he against the run???? If you are one dimensional it's hard to make the NFL gay or straight.

Also why were other gay players required to reach out to him???? Maybe they wanted their private lives to remain private and not be a part of his circus. His a**  needs to be gay and move on because his 15 minutes are up.

Michael Sam never said that other gay players were require to reach out to him.  He said that several gay players did reach out to him. 

I watched the documentary on OWN.  It was obvious that the kiss with his boyfriend was a very emotional moment for the two of them after waiting for 3 long days to see if he would drafted.  It was not staged as so many folks have stated. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 28, 2014, 01:47:49 AM
Capler your second paragraph sums it up nicely. If SAMs could help teams win Super Bowls they would have picked him up if he was from mars with two heads. Everyone talked about his pass rush. But how was he against the run???? If you are one dimensional it's hard to make the NFL gay or straight.

Also why were other gay players required to reach out to him???? Maybe they wanted their private lives to remain private and not be a part of his circus. His a**  needs to be gay and move on because his 15 minutes are up.

Michael Sam never said that other gay players were require to reach out to him.  He said that several gay players did reach out to him. 

I watched the documentary on OWN.  It was obvious that the kiss with his boyfriend was a very emotional moment for the two of them after waiting for 3 long days to see if he would drafted.  It was not staged as so many folks have stated. 

Well if you read my post as intently as you say you listened to SAMs' interview you would have noticed I never stated Sam said they were required to reach out to him. My question was in response to Oprah's comment.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on December 28, 2014, 12:37:05 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.

When you are a certain age and you have never been married, don't have any children and no one has ever seen you out with the opposite sex anywhere, that tells me something, I don't know about you I can only speak for me.



So if you have achieved these things by some arbitrary age then that must mean you're gay?

Hahahahaha

Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on December 28, 2014, 01:11:46 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.

I stand by my statement, someone in a gay relationship has to be acting like a man and the other one is acting like the woman.


Where did you get this logic from?  ???    :shrug:  Have you ever heard of someone being versatile?   I have a cousin who is in a gay relationship.  He and his life partner are versatile.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Cats4ever on December 28, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.

I stand by my statement, someone in a gay relationship has to be acting like a man and the other one is acting like the woman. When you are a certain age and you have never been married, don't have any children and no one has ever seen you out with the opposite sex anywhere, that tells me something, I don't know about you I can only speak for me.

I don't look down on gay people at all, I just question their lifestyle. Mr. Willie Barnett was a great person to all that knew him and would help anyone but it was widely known he was gay, he told my nephew once that he loved men and liked women. I will say it again, there are Onnidan posters on this board that are gays and lesbians that I know, does that make them bad people no, but in the eyes of God it's sinning so you can spin it anyway you want too.

There have been plenty of gay people who have been married and had kids.
Before Phyllis’ death in 2006 at age 80, the one-time talent agency secretary who married Rock in the 1950s went to her death, insisting she married him out of love and not to cover up his homosexuality.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/rock-hudson-wife-phyllis-gates-lost-interview-gay-secret-aids

33 Famous Gay Dads for Father's Day
This Sunday, give a big Father's Day hug to Ricky Martin, Neil Patrick Harris, and Perez Hilton — as well as the rest of our highest profile gay dads.

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Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 28, 2014, 05:27:49 PM
Believe that 5-10% of the people in the world is gay, so it is no surprise that we have some gay football players in the NFL.  It could be 5 or more on every team in the NFL, so his situation is not new in that a gay man is playing football; he is just the first one who wants to be honest about it.
I've often said there have been homosexuals in the NFL in the past and there will be in the future.  I'm sure it's been quietly accepted when discovered.  Does that mean they have to go back to the closet?  Well, the flip side of that, is do they want to use their place in the NFL to champion their sexual preferences to appease a movement?  That's not exactly being part of the team.

Now as for 5%-10%, in the States, the CDC recently put that figure at less than 3%.  Given stereotypes however, like 'em or not, football probably isn't going to attract the highest possible percentage.  But there are folks out there who want you to believe that number is at least 10% of the general population... maybe that's because it makes them more comfortable.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 29, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
Believe that 5-10% of the people in the world is gay, so it is no surprise that we have some gay football players in the NFL.  It could be 5 or more on every team in the NFL, so his situation is not new in that a gay man is playing football; he is just the first one who wants to be honest about it.
I've often said there have been homosexuals in the NFL in the past and there will be in the future.  I'm sure it's been quietly accepted when discovered.  Does that mean they have to go back to the closet?  Well, the flip side of that, is do they want to use their place in the NFL to champion their sexual preferences to appease a movement?  That's not exactly being part of the team.

Now as for 5%-10%, in the States, the CDC recently put that figure at less than 3%.  Given stereotypes however, like 'em or not, football probably isn't going to attract the highest possible percentage.  But there are folks out there who want you to believe that number is at least 10% of the general population... maybe that's because it makes them more comfortable.
:-X :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Jaggrad on December 29, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
Maybe for Michael Sam this is MORE than just Football.............. :shrug:

Granted if it were me... I would have shut the hell up a long time ago..  But I give him his Props for standing up for what he believes in!   :nod:

And yeah... He is an average player to me... :shrug:

I believe in what God said about it and I stand by that 100%.That kind of lifestyle should never be embraced! Never!!

But you are not God... So, Let's leave the judgement to him.  :angel:
Again is his lifestyle affecting any one of us day to day?  Nope.  So to each his own.  As he stated, he decided to do that himself.  Good for him.  That's his choice and right.

There are alot of Gay Athletes out there... Anyone who can't believe that is fooling themselves. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 29, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
The problem here is gay rights supporters are trying to make this about his orientation when is not totally about that.  This is and should be about his being one dimensional that prevented him from making the team(s).  The Onnidan Gay Rights task force however, will continue to try to sell that it was only his orientation that kept him out.  They also act like he should get a special pass merely because he is gay.  :shrug:

They will continue with this red herring hoping that someone buys into it.  The NFL is a business and the goal is to win a Superbowl.  If he could produce that a team would pick him up and let him play in a dress if he wanted to.  ::)
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Capler on December 29, 2014, 04:00:11 PM
The problem here is gay rights supporters are trying to make this about his orientation when is not totally about that.  This is and should be about his being one dimensional that prevented him from making the team(s).  The Onnidan Gay Rights task force however, will continue to try to sell that it was only his orientation that kept him out.  They also act like he should get a special pass merely because he is gay.  :shrug:

They will continue with this red herring hoping that someone buys into it.  The NFL is a business and the goal is to win a Superbowl.  If he could produce that a team would pick him up and let him play in a dress if he wanted to.  ::)

The right says that  blacks make police brutality all about race as well, while over looking things such as bad cops, and high crime neighborhoods.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL JAY on December 29, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.

I stand by my statement, someone in a gay relationship has to be acting like a man and the other one is acting like the woman. When you are a certain age and you have never been married, don't have any children and no one has ever seen you out with the opposite sex anywhere, that tells me something, I don't know about you I can only speak for me.

I don't look down on gay people at all, I just question their lifestyle. Mr. Willie Barnett was a great person to all that knew him and would help anyone but it was widely known he was gay, he told my nephew once that he loved men and liked women. I will say it again, there are Onnidan posters on this board that are gays and lesbians that I know, does that make them bad people no, but in the eyes of God it's sinning so you can spin it anyway you want too.


WOW...now you putting down people who have passed on blast???  Everyone knows Mr. Barnett has helped many folks get in and stay in school.  That's my frat and you need to slow it down on that deceased brother.  

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Capler on December 29, 2014, 04:07:02 PM
Believe that 5-10% of the people in the world is gay, so it is no surprise that we have some gay football players in the NFL.  It could be 5 or more on every team in the NFL, so his situation is not new in that a gay man is playing football; he is just the first one who wants to be honest about it.
I've often said there have been homosexuals in the NFL in the past and there will be in the future.  I'm sure it's been quietly accepted when discovered.  Does that mean they have to go back to the closet?  Well, the flip side of that, is do they want to use their place in the NFL to champion their sexual preferences to appease a movement?  That's not exactly being part of the team.

Now as for 5%-10%, in the States, the CDC recently put that figure at less than 3%.  Given stereotypes however, like 'em or not, football probably isn't going to attract the highest possible percentage.  But there are folks out there who want you to believe that number is at least 10% of the general population... maybe that's because it makes them more comfortable.

Unless you develop a physical/genetic test, you will never  be able to fully measure such a thing until you take away 100% of the negative stigma. Then you have to decide what qualifies a person as being gay, bi, or straight. It like with African Americans. That one drop rule is a man made falsehood.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Capler on December 29, 2014, 04:13:58 PM
This dude worse than a female. He talk too much. That's why he isn't playing. Just play ball, dude.

that's all...  :tiptoe:

He would play ball if an NFL team gave him a fair chance.  

Seventh round picks don't always get a fair chance. Lots of guys better than him arent on an nfl roster.

I think he so to speak ( came out ) before the draft and was french kissing his lover on TV, I think that more thang anything sent him to the 7th round. If people would be honest  about the situation, everybody ain't with this gay mess. I know I am not and no one will force me to accept that. Everyone on this board know that there are some well known posters that post on this board that are gay, I think they are genuinely good people but everyone don't need to know what goes on in your bedroom. I think if Mr. or Miss. Sams had just shut the "F" up and played ball he would be in the NFL right now.

 Teams are not going to put friction in their dressing room if they don't have too. Any SEC defensive player of the year ( witch Sam was ) would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick. Sam's lifestyle is the very reason Michael or Michelle is sitting home watching the NFL than a player in the NFL.

First of all Michael Sam and his lover never kissed on TV before the draft.  Heck no one even saw his lover before Sam was drafted.

Secondly, how do you know who is gay and is not gay on this board?   ???    :shrug:  I have never read anything from anyone who has come out on this board and stated that they are gay.

Calling Michael Sam Miss Sams and Michelle is verbal gay bashing.

I stand by my statement, someone in a gay relationship has to be acting like a man and the other one is acting like the woman. When you are a certain age and you have never been married, don't have any children and no one has ever seen you out with the opposite sex anywhere, that tells me something, I don't know about you I can only speak for me.

I don't look down on gay people at all, I just question their lifestyle. Mr. Willie Barnett was a great person to all that knew him and would help anyone but it was widely known he was gay, he told my nephew once that he loved men and liked women. I will say it again, there are Onnidan posters on this board that are gays and lesbians that I know, does that make them bad people no, but in the eyes of God it's sinning so you can spin it anyway you want too.


WOW...now you putting down people who have passed on blast???  Everyone knows Mr. Barnett has helped many folks get in and stay in school.  That's my frat and you need to slow it down on that deceased brother.  

 :shrug:

Yeah, Mr. Barnett should not be judged by who he loved, but instead by his life work and all those people he helped. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Professor on December 29, 2014, 08:15:45 PM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL JAY on December 29, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Then out their a**  then...not a dead person who can't defend himself if he wanted to!!!!

Don't preface your comments about how good a person he was then use him as an example to make your comments.  Let that man rest in peace. 

What does this post have to do with TU grads being gay?  You just really hate anything associated with Mother Tuskegee?  :crazy:

 

Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 29, 2014, 10:31:14 PM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
That dog won't hunt. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted. Sam was a Co-DPOY so please don't act like he was the man in the SEC. He had one good year and y'all didn't know he existed the other three.  :shrug: If he was that good he should have done better at the combine.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 29, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
The problem here is gay rights supporters are trying to make this about his orientation when is not totally about that.  This is and should be about his being one dimensional that prevented him from making the team(s).  The Onnidan Gay Rights task force however, will continue to try to sell that it was only his orientation that kept him out.  They also act like he should get a special pass merely because he is gay.  :shrug:

They will continue with this red herring hoping that someone buys into it.  The NFL is a business and the goal is to win a Superbowl.  If he could produce that a team would pick him up and let him play in a dress if he wanted to.  ::)

The right says that  blacks make police brutality all about race as well, while over looking things such as bad cops, and high crime neighborhoods.
Well when someone shoots him or chokes him to death get back at me until then you and your monkey a**  analogy can have a seat.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Professor on December 30, 2014, 01:05:11 AM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
That dog won't hunt. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted. Sam was a Co-DPOY so please don't act like he was the man in the SEC. He had one good year and y'all didn't know he existed the other three.  :shrug: If he was that good he should have done better at the combine.

Plenty of people have bad combines.
During his college career, Sam accumulated 123 tackles, including 36 for loss, 21 sacks, six forced fumbles and two intercepted passes

He was moved to Linebacker because he's considered too short to play DE. But has played it all his life.

All i'm saying is kid deserves a chance. Not the bulls**t the NFL is giving him.

The NFL has missed on plenty of kids who have became stars
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Professor on December 30, 2014, 01:07:48 AM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
That dog won't hunt. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted. Sam was a Co-DPOY so please don't act like he was the man in the SEC. He had one good year and y'all didn't know he existed the other three.  :shrug: If he was that good he should have done better at the combine.

Charlie Ward wasn't drafted because they knew he wasn't coming to the NFL. Ward said if i'm not going to be drafted in the 1st round then i'm not playing in the NFL. He was considered a 3rd round pick. So he chose the NBA. Now if you gonna tell the story , tell it right
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 30, 2014, 10:56:42 AM
All i'm saying is kid deserves a chance. Not the bulls**t the NFL is giving him.
No.  What you are saying is that you want him on an NFL team no matter what.  He has been in camp with two NFL teams.  What more do you want for him other than a sense of entitlement?  Crying to Oprah won't get him on a roster.  Only natural ability combined with hard work and training could have accomplished that. 

He had his chances.  There is a new class of college kids who now deserve theirs. 
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 30, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
That dog won't hunt. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted. Sam was a Co-DPOY so please don't act like he was the man in the SEC. He had one good year and y'all didn't know he existed the other three.  :shrug: If he was that good he should have done better at the combine.

Plenty of people have bad combines.
During his college career, Sam accumulated 123 tackles, including 36 for loss, 21 sacks, six forced fumbles and two intercepted passes

He was moved to Linebacker because he's considered too short to play DE. But has played it all his life.

All i'm saying is kid deserves a chance. Not the bulls**t the NFL is giving him.

The NFL has missed on plenty of kids who have became stars

My argument is he got more of a chance than most.  Folks want him to just be on a team because he is gay.  In his own words, there are many gay players out there so folks need to stop trying to make this about his orientation instead of his ability.  Based on what you said every SEC player who has one good year should be in the pros and that ain't bout to happen.  By the way if the cowboys (with their sorry a**  defense) didn't want him he must not be as good as you think.  They were under no pressure to pick him up and believe you me if he could help win a SB Jones would not have allowed him to be cut.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 30, 2014, 12:52:08 PM
Sam was the DPOY in the best conference in football. He should be on an NFL roster. Teams don't want the spotlight
That dog won't hunt. Charlie Ward won the Heisman and didn't get drafted. Sam was a Co-DPOY so please don't act like he was the man in the SEC. He had one good year and y'all didn't know he existed the other three.  :shrug: If he was that good he should have done better at the combine.

Charlie Ward wasn't drafted because they knew he wasn't coming to the NFL. Ward said if i'm not going to be drafted in the 1st round then i'm not playing in the NFL. He was considered a 3rd round pick. So he chose the NBA. Now if you gonna tell the story , tell it right

"The N.F.L. said, 'We don't know what Charlie Ward is going to do.' They tried to paint him as being indecisive," said Eugene Parker, Ward's agent. "All Charlie did was ask the N.F.L. to tell him whether he was going to be taken in the first round. When they wouldn't do that, he just said he was going to keep his options open. He never said he wouldn't play in the N.F.L. if he wasn't drafted in the first round."

All that does is beg the question: Why wasn't Ward good enough to be drafted in the first round?

Depending on who you talk to, Ward was too short (6 feet) or had marginal N.F.L. arm strength.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/02/sports/on-pro-football-ward-gets-the-big-snub-but-not-without-issue.html
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: bigram on December 30, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
You know Gary I would have hired that black guy but i mean he would be a bit of a distraction in the office i mean. You know they steal and rape, I mean look how happy he was when he found out he might get the job he kissed his wife in front of ALL THESE PEOPLE. I mean that type of stuff should be done at home, lol but you know they probably live in some gang ghetto neighborhood where kissing isn't allowed lol.


I mean did you see his application and test results they were just average... I mean i get it he graduated from Harvard with honors, and he ran a extremely successful business from out of his dorm room but he only did it for one year wheres the consistency. All and all it wasn't like he was the first to do that. Remember that one white guy from Harvard we didn't hire him and he didn't go crying about it.

Amazing how crazy this sounds.....

Just remember an injustice to anyone is an injustice to everyone.


We can't front like this kid didn't win DPOY from the best football conference in America

Like he didn't have 3 sacks in preseason not many people who had that type of production that didn't make a team.

Lets not front like stats and combines mean everything... Remember Mike Mamula...

Hell lets even stop acting like his own teammates didn't say he was a cool dude.


Remember black folks with the time being how it is in America .... and when they continue their nonsense and no one speaks out and comes to our aid remember... these convos ...

Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 30, 2014, 07:26:52 PM
When y'all can prove he was not selected merely because he was gay then get back at us.  What were his stats like his other three years. If they stood out I'll agree with you and cap trying to compare this bullschitt, until you provide some statistical evidence bye bye!
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: bigram on December 30, 2014, 10:42:11 PM
When y'all can prove he was not selected merely because he was gay then get back at us.  What were his stats like his other three years. If they stood out I'll agree with you and cap trying to compare this bullschitt, until you provide some statistical evidence bye bye!

Lol thats what big corporations would and still do say when we speak about unfair hiring practices ...
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 31, 2014, 01:18:34 AM
When y'all can prove he was not selected merely because he was gay then get back at us.  What were his stats like his other three years. If they stood out I'll agree with you and cap trying to compare this bullschitt, until you provide some statistical evidence bye bye!

Lol thats what big corporations would and still do say when we speak about unfair hiring practices ...

If your resume does not meet the standard then your a**  shouldn't be hired regardless of your color.  You muggs trying to compare this to civil rights are laughable.  :lol:  What were his stats the first three years beside being gay????
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 31, 2014, 01:27:04 AM
I figured you guys wouldn't supply the stats because they don't advance your gay argument, so here they are.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16829/type/college/michael-sam

One good year in the SEC does not a pro football player make.  Maybe the second openly gay player will do better and hopefully his resume will be better.   I am assuming that y'all are carry on like this because he is black cause I doubt if we would still be having this discussion were he white.  :shrug:

Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Truth on December 31, 2014, 04:33:17 AM
 :offtopic: I have a problem that we are being blinded by an athlete that got cut from the NFL. My problem is when I have to explain to my boys that are growing up in this crazy world look at this man kissing another man on draft day. This kiss was seen around the world and I wonder if we realize the impact that has on the youth of America. I don't know of one father that would stand tall and tell a young son that this is what I want to see you doing when you get older. It is enough madness going on in the world that we have to guard our kids against than to glorify ho*********y. Wake up world. Men, take care of our sons and teach them to be men. God doesn't make mistakes and I'm starting to see more confused men than ever before. Is there something in the food, water or vaccines that is altering our kids?
 :brickwall:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: bigram on December 31, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Listen man ... no one said it is about the black Civil Rights Movement....

It is a civil rights movement for gay folk ... So while it may do nothing to further our cause as black folks don't discount a movement for another group.


And are you suggesting people don't make the NFL after 1 good college football year..

Black folks we never see the forrest for the trees every thing we are saying about this kid is the exact same thing they said about us.

Aiight and the truth

Dude no one has been affected by 2 dudes kissing on tv, I swear the only people who care are the super christians of the world. And heavens you may have to explain to your children that there are different people around the world that aren't like them or gosh what will happen when they take science and learn about hermaphrodites.


Brothers c'mon we are better then this .....
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL-COTTON on December 31, 2014, 10:44:40 AM
If the kiss did not affect people we would not be having this conversation and he would probably be on someones nfl football team. It is a choice he made , so he must live with it. Really , how much more can be said about this mess.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on December 31, 2014, 12:17:10 PM
Listen man ... no one said it is about the black Civil Rights Movement....
But you keep comparing it because...????

It is a civil rights movement for gay folk ... So while it may do nothing to further our cause as black folks don't discount a movement for another group. (Blacks folks could prove they were discriminated against, where is Sam's proof beside y'all/s conspiracy theory????)


And are you suggesting people don't make the NFL after 1 good college football year.. (No they make it but normally they do well in the combine and in the preseason.  His preseason numbers were average at best.. :shrug:)

Black folks we never see the forrest for the trees every thing we are saying about this kid is the exact same thing they said about us. (Dude you can sit down with that.  If his stats were up and he preformed well then what you say would have merit but right now you are just spitting in the wind. You haven't been able to show one measurable fact that he should be in the NFL.  )

Aiight and the truth

Dude no one has been affected by 2 dudes kissing on tv, I swear the only people who care are the super christians of the world. And heavens you may have to explain to your children that there are different people around the world that aren't like them or gosh what will happen when they take science and learn about hermaphrodites.


Brothers c'mon we are better then this .....

I could really give a s**t less about him being gay if he measured up.

Everything isn't a civil rights issue, please take this from someone who actually participated in the movement and not just read it in a book.  From the start all you Gay Rights superheroes were positioned, if he did not make it, to cry foul.  Its funny how the media and the gay rights activist are quiet on his being cut but Oprah and the Onnidan Gay Rights Coalition are still trying to push this shyt. ::)
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on December 31, 2014, 12:29:38 PM
Gays have more than civil rights.  They are a protected class.  You say the wrong thing about them, you could lose your job.  You preach against their lifestyle and you're subject to subpoena power.  You don't portray them in a positive light in movies or television, you lose your sponsors.  I'll give you an example... there's a new television show coming on the FOX network by Lee Daniels starring Terrence Howard.  It's basically King Lear... dying king has to pick one of his three sons to run the Empire (in this case, a music business).  One of the sons is gay.  How much do you want to bet that the gay son will be the "good" person and ultimately the rightful heir, while it will be the other sons who are the schemers and malcontents. 

Be careful what you say.  This is mafia stuff...   
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on January 01, 2015, 09:14:52 AM
Gays have more than civil rights.  They are a protected class.  You say the wrong thing about them, you could lose your job.  You preach against their lifestyle and you're subject to subpoena power.  You don't portray them in a positive light in movies or television, you lose your sponsors.  I'll give you an example... there's a new television show coming on the FOX network by Lee Daniels starring Terrence Howard.  It's basically King Lear... dying king has to pick one of his three sons to run the Empire (in this case, a music business).  One of the sons is gay.  How much do you want to bet that the gay son will be the "good" person and ultimately the rightful heir, while it will be the other sons who are the schemers and malcontents. 

Be careful what you say.  This is mafia stuff...   

This sounds like stuff folks say about ethnic minorities.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Daddy Bulldog on January 01, 2015, 01:04:38 PM
This sounds like stuff folks say about ethnic minorities.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely...
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL-COTTON on January 01, 2015, 04:36:08 PM
Gays have more protected rights and power than any group in this country and they know it. You really have to walk lite around them in the work place. All they have to say is you created a hostile environment and your a**  really have to jump through hoops, wether they are right or wrong. Trust me I know, and they know.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Sierra on January 13, 2015, 10:32:19 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/08/michael-sam-engaged-vito-cammisano-boyfriend/?adid=tmzhero1
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL-COTTON on January 13, 2015, 10:46:24 AM
Who gives a crap.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on January 13, 2015, 11:51:10 AM
Who gives a crap.

Why are you hating so much on Michael Sam?   ???    :shrug:   You could have easily ignored that last post.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on January 13, 2015, 01:19:28 PM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/23/23a2a6ee998024ea1820e89bcfe35745639f63e4c8f2f019ba00e7fef4f3bedd.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: The Sloping Hills and Verdent Green on January 13, 2015, 02:09:33 PM
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/23/23a2a6ee998024ea1820e89bcfe35745639f63e4c8f2f019ba00e7fef4f3bedd.jpg)

 Isn't That Special  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg)
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: EL-COTTON on January 13, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
Someone getting married is not news nor is it sports to me. I choose to speak out on crap. Michel Sam means absolutely nothing to me. Let him go.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on January 13, 2015, 04:51:27 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Michael Sam seen eating breakfast today. He told reporters that he "eats breakfast everyday"  Says there are a lot of gays who eat breakfast but very few gay waiters/waitresses have reached out to him.  :lol:

News about this dude is (http://thegobigproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/LT_THUMBNAIL_02.jpg) but he won't quite go away.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Devin on January 13, 2015, 11:27:09 PM
People who chime in with the "who cares" comment on an article or thread (they aren't obligated to comment on or even pay attention to) should be kicked in the solar plexus by a horse.
Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Que82 on January 14, 2015, 01:06:17 AM
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Title: Re: Michael Sam Says "There's a Lot of Us Out There" "Very Few" Reached Out
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on January 14, 2015, 08:45:53 AM
Q82 &  El COTTON  i FEEL YAH.  You have a right to your opinion and Sams was not a draft keeper. He didn't make the team,,,,,,,,,PERIOD! It has twinged feeling of a few on the board in El COTTON mentioning how employes  failures are strapped to emoting about their orientation sexually and there is another six months of rounds before coming to the conclusion they can't or won't do the job.  He couldn't play well enough and they got rid of him.  Many use issues like Sam to promote their agenda.  I applaud you two for expressing your feeling on the subject.   Won't do any good but at least you gave an opinion other than what many would consider 'politically correct' but your opinion.  :clap: :clap: :clap: