http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578541712247829092.html
Why read Murray when we can get that info from you ? You are one of the few "black" experts on white folks.
Is that the Bell Curve murray??? and what has that to do with dying?- you trying to tell me Murray has an alternative to death?? he must be Jesus Christ in disguise.OS think so...
Ha.....Since Hispanics are (rightly) not identified as a single "race" (after all, blond Cuban American movie star Cameron Diaz and Afro-Dominican baseball slugger David Ortiz hardly look like they share racial identity), the U.S. Census allows respondents (as of the year 2000) to check as many boxes as apply. "People of Hispanic origin may be of any race categories shown on the recent questionnaire including White, Black, or African-American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander and Some Other Race. Hispanics are asked to indicate their origin in the question on Hispanic origin, not in the question on race, because in the federal statistical system ethnic origin is considered to be a separate concept from race. Instead, the government seems to classify by language (but only if that language happens to be Spanish), lumping together people from Caribbean, South America, Central America, Spain, Mexico and parts of Asia. Of the populations 14.5% (41,9 million) who do register as Hispanic, 48% OF THEM SAY THEY ARE WHITE - largely explaining the continued high total of the overall population identifying as white.
Whites are not about to lose control of this country racially or otherwise. You are a fool if you believe they will let that happen or not erect plans and actions to prevent it from happening.
Neymar,
The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.
O0
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"
Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"
Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.
You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"
Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.
You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?
Get real K----....You people are unbelievable and complete idiots.
And the problem in South Africa for blacks is education--SA is a very highly technical economy--like America , some what to further their education and some don't-- If you tgo to Soweto you see a large middle class black population developing there. They just built a new 4 million dollar shopping center in Soweto--If you got skills you can do well in South Africa. Of course the politicians over there are like the ones all over the world-- stealing as mucn money as they can.
It wont change anything. They'll just expand what it means to be white in the future. Expect Mexicans to become socially white within the next century. Hell, most already are on government forms.
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
This right here
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/-Troian-Bellisario-troian-bellisario-30995088-630-947.jpg)
It wont change anything. They'll just expand what it means to be white in the future. Expect Mexicans to become socially white within the next century. Hell, most already are on government forms.
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
This right here
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/-Troian-Bellisario-troian-bellisario-30995088-630-947.jpg)
" have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world'.
Damn Dude..you need some serious counseling. Or you need to have some intimacies with those kind you are sooooo fanaticized about to learn they are NOT special.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"
Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.
You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?
Neymar,
The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.
O0
Here is another picture of her
(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/S0/1_Troian_MG5123_V1-medium_new.jpg)
True perfection. The best of both worlds....aka the New world beauty. Not Quite black, Not Quite Latino, not quite white. A little of everything mixed to a point where static boundaries of race can no longer classify them. This is what is done, to an extent, in Brazil. These people have no loyalties to any outside group, just to the new nation. That is what we should be aiming for.
I make no endorsements on any cultural beauty. Beauty, in the context of this conversation, only makes a point when it is political. Politically we are better off at a point where everyone has clearly defined mixed race ethnicity. It practically removes race, which is such a divisive factor in American politics, out of the equation completely. It wouldnt even be that big of a change. Most black Americans are already mixed to varying degrees....now we just need more.
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
Neymar,
The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.
O0
Here is another picture of her
(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/S0/1_Troian_MG5123_V1-medium_new.jpg)
True perfection. The best of both worlds....aka the New world beauty. Not Quite black, Not Quite Latino, not quite white. A little of everything mixed to a point where static boundaries of race can no longer classify them. This is what is done, to an extent, in Brazil. These people have no loyalties to any outside group, just to the new nation. That is what we should be aiming for.
I make no endorsements on any cultural beauty. Beauty, in the context of this conversation, only makes a point when it is political. Politically we are better off at a point where everyone has clearly defined mixed race ethnicity. It practically removes race, which is such a divisive factor in American politics, out of the equation completely. It wouldnt even be that big of a change. Most black Americans are already mixed to varying degrees....now we just need more.
I was referring to THIS:QuoteWhile I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
So, you appreciate rape....?
Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.
/ ? White people have given "us"?
Oh! What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.
Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology. Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?
As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0
"Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time."
That goes against the concepts of evolutionary biology.
That might work in the short term but over time it would not. The Sub-Saharan environment is not going to favor the mutation; 'survival of the fittest'. If you introduce white genes into the pool and if that variance is endorsed and selected by the population, then you will have a more positive continuation of the trait. Some folk just don't want to admit they are mixed with something else, they come up with all sort of excuses. Look no further than the darker Europeans.
I was referring to THIS:QuoteWhile I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
So, you appreciate rape....?
Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.
/ ? White people have given "us"?
Oh! What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.
Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology. Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?
As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0
Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time.
Its not an endorsement of rape any more than voting in a local election now is an endorsement of genocide.
It is a simple observation that this union has create the best of both worlds, the same way the union which created America got the best of both worlds in terms of European enlightenment, and new world material resources.
Women of mixed African,Asian, and European Ancestry are not fitting the white standards of beauty. It is a new concept which has come out of a new society getting a mixture of its three main inhabitants. This, in turn, would render one of the most divisive issues in American society today obsolete.
I was referring to THIS:QuoteWhile I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.
Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed
So, you appreciate rape....?
Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.
/ ? White people have given "us"?
Oh! What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.
Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology. Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?
As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0
Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time.
Its not an endorsement of rape any more than voting in a local election now is an endorsement of genocide.
It is a simple observation that this union has create the best of both worlds, the same way the union which created America got the best of both worlds in terms of European enlightenment, and new world material resources.
Women of mixed African,Asian, and European Ancestry are not fitting the white standards of beauty. It is a new concept which has come out of a new society getting a mixture of its three main inhabitants. This, in turn, would render one of the most divisive issues in American society today obsolete.
Oh, really? ? ? ?
Strange then that you didn't THANK BLACK PEOPLE for browning up white folks' babies!!!!!
NO, you thanked white folks for giving "us" light skinned women.
See what I mean?
I didn't say you "endorsed" rape; I said you appreciated it as expressed in your THANKS to white people for light skinned women. That is the epitome of something you have continually made clear in your posts here (and I've mentioned it before): You think IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU. In this case because your tastes in women run a certain way, you are grateful for the frequent, law-protected violation of Black women by white men - historically SPEAKING.
And finally.....
Dude, you can stay in denial about your family's genetic history, but I DARE YOU TO SUBMIT YOUR DNA FOR ANALYSIS!
Or, I tell you what, provide some links to the SCIENCE about how genetic mutations are responsible for Ethiopian's VARIOUS colors. I hope it explains how IN GENERAL Ethiopians are darker the farther they are geographically away from whites and Arabs.
To borrow an expression: GET REAL!!!
O0
:o :o ;DMy mom was born in NC.....my dad in Omaha. I can guarantee...if we are related it will be on my mom's side.....my dad's parents were both born in Denmark. You part Viking? :) GO VIKINGS!!!
Wouldn't that be something? Peas in a pod, huh?
Stranger things have happened.
How much do you already know about your ancestry?
My Mom's runs through Tennessee and Virginia.
O0
Neymar,
:nono2:
:nono2:
1) EXCUSES
Thing is, THAT EXCUSE won't fly.
You and everybody else has NO problem bringing up something new or tangential in any thread on O-dan. Hell,...YOU brought up BROWN Mexicans, didn't you?
If it was about white Americans, why then did YOU start talking about mixing of races?
So, thing is, that is some BS about the topic of the thread limiting you.
But - EVEN IF WHAT YOU ARE NOW ASSERTING IS TRUE - you could have said that white people should be happy that African/Black people are browning up their children.
But you didn't and it is quite telling...despite your attempts at dissembling now.
2) SCIENCE
You're living in La La Land, my Brother re: DNA.
How on the one hand are you going to "blame" mutations (SCIENCE!!!) and then discount science (DNA)? Furthermore,...
If you are a mutant, Brother, you can't be original. Simple as that. Those who did not suffer from mutation are The Original.
We'll be waiting right here for you to post some SCIENCE to back up your assertions about mutations, OK?
You remind me of what Kwame Ture used to say and I paraphrase:
People who don't know anything about physics imagine that they are talking about physics, but instead what they are actually doing is talking about talking about physics.
3) APOLOGY
But, look, on the other hand, I apologize for making my comments about you personally. [I signed on to apologize, but you had already responded.] Not that I didn't mean it and not that I don't think it is (still) true, but it was inappropriate in the context of this discussion. I am sorry. For real.
O0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color
Genetics of skin color variation[edit]
See also: Human genetic variation, Race and genetics, and Human genetic clustering
Genetic studies have discovered a number of genes that affect human skin colour across different populations. These studies suggest a 3-way model for the evolution of human skin colour, with dark skin evolving in early hominids in sub-Saharan Africa and light skin evolving separately in Europe and East Asia after modern humans had expanded out of Africa.[8][9][10][11][12][13]
Dark skin[edit]
All modern humans share a common ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago in sub-Saharan Africa.[14] Comparisons between known skin pigmentation genes in chimpanzees and modern Africans show that dark skin evolved along with the loss of body hair about 1.2 million years ago and is the ancestral state of all humans.[15] Investigations into dark skinned populations in South Asia and Melanesia indicate that skin pigmentation in these populations is due to the preservation of this ancestral state and not due to new variations on a previously lightened population.[5][16]
MC1R
The melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R) gene is primarily responsible for determining whether pheomelanin and eumelanin is produced in the human body. Research shows at least 10 differences in MC1R between African and chimpanzee samples and that the gene is under strong functional constraint in Africa. This is consistent with positive selection for the high-eumelanin phenotype seen in Africa and other environments with high UV exposure.[15][16]
Light skin[edit]
For the most part, the evolution of light skin has followed different genetic paths in European and East Asian populations. Two genes however, KITLG and ASIP, have mutations associated with lighter skin that have high frequencies in both European and East Asian populations and have estimated origin dates after humans spread out of Africa but before the divergence of the European and Asian lineages.[11]
^ McEvoy Brian et al. (2006). "The genetic architecture of normal variation in human pigmentation: an evolutionary perspective and model". Human Molecular Genetics 15 (2): 176–181. doi:10.1093/hmg/ddl217.
^ Richard A Sturm (2009). Human Molecular Genetics 18: 9–17. doi:10.1093/hmg/ddp003.
^ a b c d e f Norton, H. L.; Kittles, R. A.; Parra, E.; McKeigue, P.; Mao, X.; Cheng, K.; Canfield, V. A.; Bradley, D. G. et al. (2006). "Genetic Evidence for the Convergent Evolution of Light Skin in Europeans and East Asians". Molecular Biology and Evolution 24 (3): 710–22. doi:10.1093/molbev/msl203. PMID 17182896.
^ a b c d e f Belezal, Sandra et al. (2012). "The timing of pigmentation lightening in Europeans". Molecular Biology and Evolution. doi:10.1093/molbev/mss207.
^ a b Edwards, Melissa; Bigham, Abigail; Tan, Jinze; Li, Shilin; Gozdzik, Agnes; Ross, Kendra; Jin, Li; Parra, Esteban J. (2010). "Association of the OCA2 Polymorphism His615Arg with Melanin Content in East Asian Populations: Further Evidence of Convergent Evolution of Skin Pigmentation". In McVean, Gil. PLoS Genetics 6 (3): e1000867. doi:10.1371/journal.pgen.1000867. PMC 2832666. PMID 20221248.
Neymar,
:nono2:
:nono2:
1) EXCUSES
Thing is, THAT EXCUSE won't fly.
You and everybody else has NO problem bringing up something new or tangential in any thread on O-dan. Hell,...YOU brought up BROWN Mexicans, didn't you?
If it was about white Americans, why then did YOU start talking about mixing of races?
So, thing is, that is some BS about the topic of the thread limiting you.
But - EVEN IF WHAT YOU ARE NOW ASSERTING IS TRUE - you could have said that white people should be happy that African/Black people are browning up their children.
But you didn't and it is quite telling...despite your attempts at dissembling now..............
We'll wake up one morning and the white folks will be gone. LOL
Long as they leave a few redheads, some blondes, and the red bones I will be ok with that :lol: :lol:
So Bison....what you are saying is the only reason there are light skinned blacks is because of rape? GO VIKINGS!!!
We'll wake up one morning and the white folks will be gone. LOL
Long as they leave a few redheads, some blondes, and the red bones I will be ok with that :lol: :lol:
Hilarious.
Enuff said.
O0
Neymar, Happy hunting.........because........
"actually", huh? In what way, my young friend.
Certainly, THAT page "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
And if you are thinking that you'll be able to say later that you responded or countered what I posted (and you did, too), think again.
What "we" posted shows clearly that your "belief" is not based in science.
O0
"actually", huh? In what way, my young friend?..because we BOTH know that was some lame BS you trotted out.
Certainly, THAT page "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
It went well enough actually.
I've been doing research, and am looking for an exact definition of "Person leaving Africa"
I am in research right now.
I found this to be interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation)
You could just admit it was a terriblyO0racistINACCURATE statement and retract it.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.
You're a dumbass Noora could not find a husband because of her attitude not because of her hair.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578541712247829092.html
If you are really interested in what's taking place with Whites in America, I recommend you read Charles Murray's excellent book, entitled, "Coming Apart: The State Of White America, 1960-2010.
You need to read specifically the last chapter entitled: Alternative Futures.
Neymar, your mind has been infected by Colorism and it is sad to see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color -DEFINITION
http://www.colorismproject.com/
I'd be willing to bet that the darker people in your family have felt the sting of Colorism within your family. Perhaps some of them are willing and brave enough to educate you about the hurts that they have felt as a result of the intra-family favoritism based on skin color.
Meanwhile and more to the point in this thread:
EVERYONE NOTICES that you have yet to acknowledge that you offered phony excuses for your "euro"-standards statements, NOR the science that you "claim" backs up your beliefs re: the development of skin color NOR how, as a Mutant (your claim), you could not possibly be the Original Man.
It is sad to see that an obviously intelligent person like you can be so confused and so bamboozled by white so-called supremacy thinking. It is not too late for you to overcome your childhood socialization so that you will not end up like Oldsport.
I hope you will avoid that awful fate.
O0
There is no colorism in my family.
Neymar, Happy hunting.........because........
"actually", huh? In what way, my young friend.
Certainly, THAT page "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
And if you are thinking that you'll be able to say later that you responded or countered what I posted (and you did, too), think again.
What "we" posted shows clearly that your "belief" is not based in science.
O0
Try as you might, Neymar, you will not successfully deflect from the topic at hand.
I'll be happy to answer your question AFTER (There will be no line jumping!) your respond to my two posts in this thread re:
- the science of mutations (STILL no results, huh? happy hunting)
In particular, but not limited to,Quote"actually", huh? In what way, my young friend?..because we BOTH know that was some lame BS you trotted out.
Certainly, THAT page "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
and
- excuses
O0
So, Neymar, can't find any SCIENCE to support your unfounded belief, can you?
Also, you never explained how you claim to be a mutant AND the Original Man, two mutually exclusive beings.
O0
Neymar, stop being ridiculous, any source of evidence will do, it does not have to come from a White Wo/man...
Stop hiding behind your own ignorance and just "Man Up" and admit that you shared an opinion that can not be backed up by science, anthropology or archaeological...
:shrug: No harm, no foul - just a simple admission that you don't know everything and you spoke on a subject that you have no expertise on... :shrug:
So, Neymar, can't find any SCIENCE to support your unfounded belief, can you?
Also, you never explained how you claim to be a mutant AND the Original Man, two mutually exclusive beings.
O0
Why should I find a white source to tell me what I am?
It went well enough actually.
I've been doing research, and am looking for an exact definition of "Person leaving Africa"
I am in research right now.
I found this to be interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation)
Meanwhile and more to the point in this thread:
EVERYONE NOTICES that you have yet to acknowledge that you offered phony excuses for your "euro"-standards statements, NOR the science that you "claim" backs up your beliefs re: the development of skin color NOR how, as a Mutant (your claim), you could not possibly be the Original Man.
It is sad to see that an obviously intelligent person like you can be so confused and so bamboozled by white so-called supremacy thinking. It is not too late for you to overcome your childhood socialization so that you will not end up like Oldsport.
I hope you will avoid that awful fate.
You could just admit it was a terriblyracistINACCURATE statement and retract it.
It would have to be white because he wants the white standard of evidence.
I tell an African man I come from the house of habesh, they accept it.
But over here we want science to come in and track particles because west Africans dont believe Africans can naturally have light skin.
You know there is something wrong when college educated black folks, on this site, can sit back and deny facts of speciation, or even evolution.http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,77393.msg635167.html#msg635167
In the past, scholars including Hiob Ludolf and Carlo Conti Rossini postulated that the ancient communities that evolved into the modern Ethiopian state were formed by a migration across the Red Sea of Semitic-speaking South Arabians around 1000 BC, who intermarried with local non-Semitic-speaking peoples. Both the indigenous languages of Southern Arabia and the Amharic, Guragigna and Tigrinya languages of Ethiopia belong to the large family of South Semitic languages...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habesha_people
...Traditional scholarship has assumed that the Habashat were a tribe from modern-day Yemen that migrated to Ethiopia and Eritrea. However, the Sabaic inscriptions only use the term ḥbšt to the refer to the Kingdom of Aksum and its inhabitants, especially during the 3rd century, when the ḥbšt (Aksumites) were often at war with the Sabaeans and Himyraites
For over two millenniums, the word 'Habesha' and its numerous variants (Habashat, Habasa, Habesh, Habeshi, Abesha) have been used to name geographical pockets of territory and people extending from the Arabian Peninsula to the furthest limits of the Horn of Africa region. Although the word is of great antiquity, there is no consensus on what it actually means. In order to understand why this is the case, we must first look back at its origins.http://www.madote.com/2013/01/the-true-origin-of-habesha.html
Most of the earliest inscriptions mentioning Habesha deal with wars, alliances and peace treaties among rivaling Yemeni kingdoms - this reference below is no different:"Shamir of Dhu-Raydan and Himyar had called in the
help of the clans of Habashat for war against the kings of Saba;
but Ilmuqah granted ... the submission of Shamir of Dhu-Raydan
and the clans of Habashat."[1]
This inscription tells us that Shamir of Dhu-Raydan, who is almost certainly the Himyarite king Shamir Yuhahmid, requested assistance from the Habashat clans to go to war with Saba, a rivaling Yemeni kingdom. The inscription also credits Ilmuqah, who was the Sun God that most inhabitants on both sides of the Red Sea worshiped, for granting them victory over their Sabaean rivals.[/size]
Neymar, stop being ridiculous, any source of evidence will do, it does not have to come from a White Wo/man...
Stop hiding behind your own ignorance and just "Man Up" and admit that you shared an opinion that can not be backed up by science, anthropology or archaeological...
:shrug: No harm, no foul - just a simple admission that you don't know everything and you spoke on a subject that you have no expertise on... :shrug:
It would have to be white because he wants the white standard of evidence.
I tell an African man I come from the house of habesh, they accept it.
But over here we want science to come in and track particles because west Africans dont believe Africans can naturally have light skin.
Come on fam, we are keeping it real.
I am researching too.
I am researching too.
So,.....Neymar............
What results can you report from your research?
Did you check to see what Dr. Diop had to say, if anything, on YOUR CLAIMS?
Or are you just telling us something that you "heard" about?
O0
The 1880s were marked by the Scramble for Africa in Ethiopia and Eastern Africa, when the Italians began to vie with the British and French for influence in the area. Asseb, a port near the southern entrance of the Red Sea, was bought by in March 1870 from the local Afar sultan, vassal to the Ethiopian Emperor, by an Italian company, which by 1890 led to the Italian colony of Eritrea being established. From then on, the Kingdom of Italy attempted to take control of Ethiopia.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_of_Ethiopia
Conflicts between the two countries resulted in the Battle of Adwa in 1896, whereby the Ethiopians defeated Italy and remained independent, under the rule of Menelik II. Italy and Ethiopia signed a provisional treaty of peace on 26 October 1896, but in the next years Italians started to pursue the "avenge of Adua" as a matter of national honor.
The avenge indeed came when Benito Mussolini started to expand the African colonial possessions of Italy in the 1930s.
In October 1935, Mussolini launched the Second Italo-Abyssinian War and invaded Ethiopia. Emperor Haile Selassie fled the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa on 2 May 1936 and the Italians entered the city on 5 May, after bloody battles.
Victory was announced on 9 May 1936 and Mussolini declared the creation of the "Italian Empire". The Italians merged Eritrea, Italian Somalia, and newly captured Ethiopia into Italian East Africa (Africa Orientale Italiana, A.O.I.).
The Italian King Victor Emmanuel III added Emperor of Ethiopia to his titles.
Mussolini dreamed of sending millions of Italian settlers to Italian East Africa, and Italians had high hopes of turning the area into an economic asset: huge investments were done in the creation of needed infrastructures (roads, airports, hospitals, etc..).
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Soldatietiopia.jpg/250px-Soldatietiopia.jpg)
Italian soldiers and colonists starting their travel to conquest and colonize Ethiopia in 1935
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/images/film/adwa/w448/adwa.jpg?1311484747)
From 1936 to the start of World War II Mussolini controlled much of Ethiopia, but a guerrilla war raged in areas of Ethiopia still controlled by partisans linked to Haile Selassie (who was exiled in Great Britain).
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.
Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as. I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.
It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.
You're a dumbass Noora could not find a husband because of her attitude not because of her hair.
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:
Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:
Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....
Youngster,
Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........
I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.
But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
O0
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:
Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....
Youngster,
Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........
I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.
But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
O0
Its funny because it is typical Italian behavior. Lose and then cheat.
From the 40s to the 2006 world cup where they felt the need to racially abuse the greatest player of a generation to get him sent off. Italians are cheaters by nature.
Underaged for all questions, not just the ones you are thinking.
Research is coming along well I'm dropping bombshells from my grandmother next time I speak to her. She got a big book of our family from pre christian days. We'll check for whites person by person. :nod:
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:
Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....
Youngster,
Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........
I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.
But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
O0
Its funny because it is typical Italian behavior. Lose and then cheat.
From the 40s to the 2006 world cup where they felt the need to racially abuse the greatest player of a generation to get him sent off. Italians are cheaters by nature.
Underaged for all questions, not just the ones you are thinking.
Research is coming along well I'm dropping bombshells from my grandmother next time I speak to her. She got a big book of our family from pre christian days. We'll check for whites person by person. :nod:
You're just filled up with stereotypes, aren't you?
One thing I am certain of - Rebakky96 can speak for herself. She put you on location quite nicely. And you seem overly-eager to keep her out of the conversation.
As you move from science to anecdote,....Be sure to check for Arabs, too.
O0
Whatever. ::)
All of this could have been avoided had you just admitted you were incorrect on the science.
O0
Neymar said:QuoteMore like she has a natural body shape for a woman that works out and does not take in processed foods like the women you would see over here.
Also I didnt respond to your fallacious statement because you and I both know that it was meant only as an incendiary device in a thread.
You have a western lens mate. How you going to attack the looks Asma have when it is the same looks that makes you want action? Lets not beat around the bush shall we? Wink
First off, you can give all the excuses you want for not answering, but everyone notices that you did not.
As to your "ideal" woman, you must keep in mind that "beauty IS in the eye of the beholder", and it is in YOUR eye, not mine. I don't find her attractive in ANY way. You do and she seems to be the only "type" that you do, that's why I asked my question.
You can't answer, but at least I can appreciate that you didn't lie about it.
You call me "mate" and say I have a western eye? LOL Then you admire the "beauty" of "light, damn near white" women and tell me I have a western eye. You talk about a Black woman's natural hair being an impediment to her getting married (AS IF there weren't millions of women with natural hair who found a husband) and say I have a western eye. Pure PROJECTION, dude:QuoteProjection
Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people. For example, if you have a strong dislike for someone, you might instead believe that he or she does not like you. Projection works by allowing the expression of the desire or impulse, but in a way that the ego cannot recognize, therefore reducing anxiety.
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...You will recall that our "conversation" began with me taking exception to YOU thanking white people for giving "us" mixed raced babies who grow up into women that YOU find attractive.
And you tell me I have a "western eye", "mate?" :lmao: :lmao:
O0
You do realize that we have here a written record of our discussion, right?
In it, IT IS YOU WHO FIRST OFFERED UP SOME SCIENCE TO BACK UP WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE. IT WAS "WHITE" WHEN YOU CITED IT.
Unfortunately, THAT VERY SAME, EXACT SCIENCE INFORMATION CONTRADICTED your belief.
You've been on roller skates ever since trying to avoid that FACT. And part of that is to try to pretend that YOU did not offer up the info and implying that I am the one insisting on "white" info. I am the one who suggested that you check Dr. Anta Diop's research and he is most definitely Black.
So you can play this game and pretend it is the issue, but everyone reading the thread realizes that you are just ducking and dodging - and not doing it well at that.
O0
Is that the Bell Curve murray??? and what has that to do with dying?- you trying to tell me Murray has an alternative to death?? he must be Jesus Christ in disguise.