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Title: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 14, 2013, 08:53:33 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578541712247829092.html
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: oldsport on June 14, 2013, 09:39:23 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578541712247829092.html

If you are really interested in what's taking place with Whites in America, I recommend you read Charles Murray's  excellent book, entitled, "Coming Apart: The State Of White America, 1960-2010.

You need to read specifically the last chapter entitled: Alternative Futures.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 14, 2013, 10:47:29 AM
Why read Murray when we can get that info from you ?  You are one of the few "black" experts on white folks.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: oldsport on June 14, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
Why read Murray when we can get that info from you ?  You are one of the few "black" experts on white folks.

Murray's book is an in depth and detailed You see K----, you make the same mistake that liberal whites make about Blacks....You see the American white world in monolithic terms. Murray really dissects this vast grouping known as Whites. However, I found most interesting the last chapter titled the Alternative Futures.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 14, 2013, 11:22:34 AM
Is that the Bell Curve murray??? and what has that to do with dying?- you trying to tell me Murray has an alternative to death??  he must be Jesus Christ in disguise.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: soflorattler on June 14, 2013, 12:34:11 PM
Is that the Bell Curve murray??? and what has that to do with dying?- you trying to tell me Murray has an alternative to death??  he must be Jesus Christ in disguise.
OS think so...
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 14, 2013, 12:39:43 PM
The Gospel According to NostraDumbAss.....

Ha.....Since Hispanics are (rightly) not identified as a single "race" (after all, blond Cuban American movie star Cameron Diaz and Afro-Dominican baseball slugger David Ortiz hardly look like they share racial identity), the U.S. Census allows respondents (as of the year 2000) to check as many boxes as apply. "People of Hispanic origin may be of any race categories shown on the recent questionnaire including White, Black, or African-American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Native Hawaiian, or Other Pacific Islander and Some Other Race. Hispanics are asked to indicate their origin in the question on Hispanic origin, not in the question on race, because in the federal statistical system ethnic origin is considered to be a separate concept from race. Instead, the government seems to classify by language (but only if that language happens to be Spanish), lumping together people from Caribbean, South America, Central America, Spain, Mexico and parts of Asia. Of the populations 14.5% (41,9 million) who do register as Hispanic, 48% OF THEM SAY THEY ARE WHITE - largely explaining the continued high total of the overall population identifying as white.

Whites are not about to lose control of this country racially or otherwise. You are a fool if you believe they will let that happen or not erect plans and actions to prevent it from happening.



So said the shepherd....so said the flock.....

 :lmao:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 16, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
It wont change anything. They'll just expand what it means to be white in the future. Expect Mexicans to become socially white within the next century. Hell, most already are on government forms.

While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

This right here
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/-Troian-Bellisario-troian-bellisario-30995088-630-947.jpg)

Are the black queens we need more of in the future
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 16, 2013, 03:31:55 PM
Neymar,

The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.

O0
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: aggiejazz on June 16, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 16, 2013, 04:38:19 PM
Neymar,

The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.

O0

Here is another picture of her
(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/S0/1_Troian_MG5123_V1-medium_new.jpg)


True perfection.  The best of both worlds....aka the New world beauty. Not Quite black, Not Quite Latino, not quite white. A little of everything mixed to a point where static boundaries of race can no longer classify them. This is what is done, to an extent, in Brazil. These people have no loyalties to any outside group, just to the new nation. That is what we should be aiming for.

I make no endorsements on any cultural beauty. Beauty, in the context of this conversation, only makes a point when it is political. Politically we are better off at a point where everyone has clearly defined mixed race ethnicity. It practically removes race, which is such a divisive factor in American politics, out of the equation completely. It wouldnt even be that big of a change. Most black Americans are already mixed to varying degrees....now we just need more.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: soflorattler on June 16, 2013, 06:44:38 PM
Eww... :tongue2:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 16, 2013, 06:57:08 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.


To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: oldsport on June 17, 2013, 08:45:42 AM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.



aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"

Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: CU1994 on June 17, 2013, 08:49:35 AM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.



aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"

Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.

You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: oldsport on June 17, 2013, 08:51:15 AM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.



aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"

Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.

You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?

Get real K----....You people are unbelievable and complete idiots.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 17, 2013, 08:51:30 AM
Blacks in South Africa have only been part of the political and economic sytem since 1994-- Blacks problem in America is not wealth-but keeping that wealth in our own community.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: CU1994 on June 17, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.



aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"

Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.

You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?

Get real K----....You people are unbelievable and complete idiots.

You did agree with Aggie that we would be just like South Africa didn't you? Don't post something if you don't mean it.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 17, 2013, 08:58:34 AM
And the problem in South Africa for blacks is education--SA is a very highly technical economy--like America , some what to further their education and some don't--  If you tgo to Soweto you see a large middle class black population developing there.  They just built a new 4 million dollar shopping center in Soweto--If you got skills you can do well in South Africa.  Of course the politicians over there are like the ones all over the world-- stealing as mucn money as they can.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 17, 2013, 09:46:45 AM
And the problem in South Africa for blacks is education--SA is a very highly technical economy--like America , some what to further their education and some don't--  If you tgo to Soweto you see a large middle class black population developing there.  They just built a new 4 million dollar shopping center in Soweto--If you got skills you can do well in South Africa.  Of course the politicians over there are like the ones all over the world-- stealing as mucn money as they can.

Funny enough its Indians making the most in soweto.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Sierra on June 17, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
It wont change anything. They'll just expand what it means to be white in the future. Expect Mexicans to become socially white within the next century. Hell, most already are on government forms.

While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

This right here
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/-Troian-Bellisario-troian-bellisario-30995088-630-947.jpg)


" have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world'.
Damn Dude..you need some serious counseling. Or you need to have some intimacies with those kind you are sooooo fanaticized about to learn they are NOT special.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 17, 2013, 10:36:15 AM
It wont change anything. They'll just expand what it means to be white in the future. Expect Mexicans to become socially white within the next century. Hell, most already are on government forms.

While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

This right here
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30900000/-Troian-Bellisario-troian-bellisario-30995088-630-947.jpg)


" have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world'.
Damn Dude..you need some serious counseling. Or you need to have some intimacies with those kind you are sooooo fanaticized about to learn they are NOT special.

Thing is, I dont think that fantasy requires counseling. You can see black men from all over coming to nations like Brazil and the dominican republic to get the best of both worlds.

Why choose between black and white when you can have both at the same time? :shrug:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Ken on June 17, 2013, 11:17:41 AM
I don't know about Indians making much in Soweto--many black physicians and entertainers live there-- the stores i went too are black owned-= the largest store is a shopping center built by Richard  Branson-- cost 7 million to build,
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 17, 2013, 09:09:45 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.



aggie said, "No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa"

Thank you brother for pointing this out. These other K----s are living in a world of fantasy.

You and Aggie are correct. The U.S. is becoming just like South Africa. Apartheid Plutocracy anyone.......?

Y'all,

Note once again OS's StrawMan Argument:

WHO ON THIS BOARD SAID THAT DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES* WOULD RESULT IN RESPECTIVE CHANGES IN ECONOMICS?

NOBODY.

BUT, he argues AS IF someone has actually said that.

Oldsport's been doing this for more than a decade!!!  He puts opinions into other peoples' mouths and then argues them down.  He has only once that I can remember acknowledged that his transplantation of opinions was inaccurate.

See my 'sig' below.
O0

*In the other thread - where this first came up - it was Oldsport DENYING that whites would cease to be a majority of the population and that they would never let that happen.  Then he tried to slide that position into another position about power.....before disappearing.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: CIAA-FAN on June 18, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
I AM NOT LEAPING WITH GLEE AT THE OBVIOUS AND NOW PROVEN FACT THAT THE WHITE POPULATION I OUR NATION IS IN DECLINE, NUMERICALLY.  HOWEVER, WHAT I AM HOPEFUL AND GLEEFUL ABOUT IS THAT THIS FACT IS NOW ALMOST UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED AND THAT WITH IT POLITICAL POWER CHANGE TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THE HISTORICALLY DISENFRANCHISED IN OUR NATION WILL MOST DEFINITELY ARRIVE.  THAT MY FRIENDS WILL BE FOLLOWED (ALBEIT AT A MUCH SLOWER PACE) BY REAL ECONOMIC CHANGE.   I WON'T SEE IT IN MY LIFE TIME, BUT I BELIEVE MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL.  :nod:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 19, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Neymar,

The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.

O0

Here is another picture of her
(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/S0/1_Troian_MG5123_V1-medium_new.jpg)


True perfection.  The best of both worlds....aka the New world beauty. Not Quite black, Not Quite Latino, not quite white. A little of everything mixed to a point where static boundaries of race can no longer classify them. This is what is done, to an extent, in Brazil. These people have no loyalties to any outside group, just to the new nation. That is what we should be aiming for.

I make no endorsements on any cultural beauty. Beauty, in the context of this conversation, only makes a point when it is political. Politically we are better off at a point where everyone has clearly defined mixed race ethnicity. It practically removes race, which is such a divisive factor in American politics, out of the equation completely. It wouldnt even be that big of a change. Most black Americans are already mixed to varying degrees....now we just need more.

I was referring to THIS:
Quote
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

So, you appreciate rape....?

Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.

/ ? White people have given "us"?  
Oh!  What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.


Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology.  Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?

As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0

Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2013, 12:57:31 PM
Neymar,

The photo you posted does not show up on the computer I am using, but from your writing here, it is obvious that you are simply endorsing white cultural norms of beauty.

O0

Here is another picture of her
(http://www.seventeen.com/cm/seventeen/images/S0/1_Troian_MG5123_V1-medium_new.jpg)


True perfection.  The best of both worlds....aka the New world beauty. Not Quite black, Not Quite Latino, not quite white. A little of everything mixed to a point where static boundaries of race can no longer classify them. This is what is done, to an extent, in Brazil. These people have no loyalties to any outside group, just to the new nation. That is what we should be aiming for.

I make no endorsements on any cultural beauty. Beauty, in the context of this conversation, only makes a point when it is political. Politically we are better off at a point where everyone has clearly defined mixed race ethnicity. It practically removes race, which is such a divisive factor in American politics, out of the equation completely. It wouldnt even be that big of a change. Most black Americans are already mixed to varying degrees....now we just need more.

I was referring to THIS:
Quote
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

So, you appreciate rape....?

Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.

/ ? White people have given "us"?  
Oh!  What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.


Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology.  Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?

As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0



Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time.

Its not an endorsement of rape any more than voting in a local election now is an endorsement of genocide.

It is a simple observation that this union has create the best of both worlds, the same way the union which created America got the best of both worlds in terms of European enlightenment, and new world material resources.

Women of mixed African,Asian, and European Ancestry are not fitting the white standards of beauty. It is a new concept which has come out of a new society getting a mixture of its three main inhabitants. This, in turn, would render one of the most divisive issues in American society today obsolete.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Capler on June 19, 2013, 01:00:09 PM
Also like many other things in life, physical beauty is a matter of conditioning by society. If a child is taught that a certain thing is beautiful, that is what they are going to believe and accept. I take pride in the fact that I'm not so easily swayed by superficial forces, regardless of how entrenched they are. All humans look alike without much variance. If you are willing to look at it that way, it takes much of emphasis off someone's physical beauty and forces you to look at other things. Are they good providers, are they loyal, are they interesting, do they know how to funk real good? If you can get me off in the bed room I'm keeping you regardless of how you look. I can't have no good looking, boring,  lazy funk.  :no: You say suck but all they do lick one time and are done.  >:(
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Capler on June 19, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
"Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time."

That goes against the concepts of evolutionary biology.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2013, 01:17:59 PM
"Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time."

That goes against the concepts of evolutionary biology.


On the contrary.

Their genes were spread by this mutation is more of an endorsement for it. Lighter skin people in that region were able to pass their genes more readily, thus the trait became more common.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Capler on June 19, 2013, 01:33:26 PM
That might work in the short term but over time it would not. The Sub-Saharan environment is not going to favor the mutation; 'survival of the fittest'. If you introduce white genes into the pool and if that variance is endorsed and selected by the population, then you will have a more positive continuation of the trait.  Some folk just don't want to admit they are mixed with something else, they come up with all sort of excuses. Look no further than the darker Europeans.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2013, 01:43:05 PM
That might work in the short term but over time it would not. The Sub-Saharan environment is not going to favor the mutation; 'survival of the fittest'. If you introduce white genes into the pool and if that variance is endorsed and selected by the population, then you will have a more positive continuation of the trait.  Some folk just don't want to admit they are mixed with something else, they come up with all sort of excuses. Look no further than the darker Europeans.

I'd hardly say northern Ethiopia, with its cool(er) climate and mountainous terrain qualifies as a Sub-Saharan environment.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 19, 2013, 06:14:49 PM

I was referring to THIS:
Quote
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

So, you appreciate rape....?

Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.

/ ? White people have given "us"?  
Oh!  What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.


Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology.  Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?

As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0

Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time.

Its not an endorsement of rape any more than voting in a local election now is an endorsement of genocide.

It is a simple observation that this union has create the best of both worlds, the same way the union which created America got the best of both worlds in terms of European enlightenment, and new world material resources.

Women of mixed African,Asian, and European Ancestry are not fitting the white standards of beauty. It is a new concept which has come out of a new society getting a mixture of its three main inhabitants. This, in turn, would render one of the most divisive issues in American society today obsolete.

Oh, really? ? ? ?

Strange then that you didn't THANK BLACK PEOPLE for browning up white folks' babies!!!!!

NO, you thanked white folks for giving "us" light skinned women.

See what I mean?

I didn't say you "endorsed" rape; I said you appreciated it as expressed in your THANKS to white people for light skinned women.  That is the epitome of something you have continually made clear in your posts here (and I've mentioned it before):  You think IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.  In this case because your tastes in women run a certain way, you are grateful for the frequent, law-protected violation of Black women by white men - historically SPEAKING.

And finally.....
Dude, you can stay in denial about your family's genetic history, but I DARE YOU TO SUBMIT YOUR DNA FOR ANALYSIS!

Or, I tell you what, provide some links to the SCIENCE about how genetic mutations are responsible for Ethiopian's VARIOUS colors.  I hope it explains how IN GENERAL Ethiopians are darker the farther they are geographically away from whites and Arabs.

To borrow an expression:  GET REAL!!!
O0
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: CU1994 on June 19, 2013, 06:45:10 PM
Bison, I've already had these discussions with Neymar, you just have to hold your breath when he gets on a roll.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: uchighlander on June 19, 2013, 06:47:59 PM
So Bison....what you are saying is the only reason there are light skinned blacks is because of rape? GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 19, 2013, 07:03:27 PM

I was referring to THIS:
Quote
While I appreciate what Whites have given us in terms of light skinned females, I feel in the end they even failed in that regard. Only New Orleans, and a few other spots, have the pure mix that makes women so attractive in other parts of the world.

Hopefully Hispanics succeed where the white americans failed

So, you appreciate rape....?

Your "defense" above sounds all nice and philosophical but it does not address your earlier comment which I called into question.

/ ? White people have given "us"?  
Oh!  What a gift!!!! Listen to yourself.


Some months ago when you were explaining the lighter than Black color of some Ethiopians you asserted it was the result of genetic mutations or some such terminology.  Why couldn't you acknowledge in that context that lighter skinned Arabs, Italians and others GAVE your countrymen and family lighter skin?

As I said, you are simply and demonstrably endorsing white standards of beauty.
O0

Because it wasnt outsiders that gave the lighter skin, just genetic mutations over time.

Its not an endorsement of rape any more than voting in a local election now is an endorsement of genocide.

It is a simple observation that this union has create the best of both worlds, the same way the union which created America got the best of both worlds in terms of European enlightenment, and new world material resources.

Women of mixed African,Asian, and European Ancestry are not fitting the white standards of beauty. It is a new concept which has come out of a new society getting a mixture of its three main inhabitants. This, in turn, would render one of the most divisive issues in American society today obsolete.

Oh, really? ? ? ?

Strange then that you didn't THANK BLACK PEOPLE for browning up white folks' babies!!!!!

NO, you thanked white folks for giving "us" light skinned women.

See what I mean?

I didn't say you "endorsed" rape; I said you appreciated it as expressed in your THANKS to white people for light skinned women.  That is the epitome of something you have continually made clear in your posts here (and I've mentioned it before):  You think IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.  In this case because your tastes in women run a certain way, you are grateful for the frequent, law-protected violation of Black women by white men - historically SPEAKING.

And finally.....
Dude, you can stay in denial about your family's genetic history, but I DARE YOU TO SUBMIT YOUR DNA FOR ANALYSIS!

Or, I tell you what, provide some links to the SCIENCE about how genetic mutations are responsible for Ethiopian's VARIOUS colors.  I hope it explains how IN GENERAL Ethiopians are darker the farther they are geographically away from whites and Arabs.

To borrow an expression:  GET REAL!!!
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The thing is, this thread is about white Americans, so that statement of thanks was in general for this topic.

My taste in women is one of social evolution that will take away the whites power of racism in this nation, and one in which we are headed in no matter what. See Bison think higher. That mention, in this thread, was one of a political statement :nod:

I am not grateful for the violations but I am grateful for the the result of what we are given. Some of the best things in Earth have come out of terrible terrible things.

As far as my DNA(tool of european science) is concerned I am sure I have DNA traits prevalent throughtout Asia,Africa, and Europe. Just a part of being the original man O0
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 19, 2013, 08:50:54 PM
Neymar,
 :nono2:
 :nono2:

1)  EXCUSES

Thing is, THAT EXCUSE won't fly. 

You and everybody else has NO problem bringing up something new or tangential in any thread on O-dan.  Hell,...YOU brought up BROWN Mexicans, didn't you?

If it was about white Americans, why then did YOU start talking about mixing of races? 

So, thing is, that is some BS about the topic of the thread limiting you. 

But - EVEN IF WHAT YOU ARE NOW ASSERTING IS TRUE - you could have said that white people should be happy that African/Black people are browning up their children.

But you didn't and it is quite telling...despite your attempts at dissembling now.


2)  SCIENCE

You're living in La La Land, my Brother re: DNA.

How on the one hand are you going to "blame" mutations (SCIENCE!!!) and then discount science (DNA)?  Furthermore,...

If you are a mutant, Brother, you can't be original.  Simple as that.  Those who did not suffer from mutation are The Original.

We'll be waiting right here for you to post some SCIENCE to back up your assertions about mutations, OK?

You remind me of what Kwame Ture used to say and I paraphrase: 
People who don't know anything about physics imagine that they are talking about physics, but instead what they are actually doing is talking about talking about physics.

3)  APOLOGY

But, look, on the other hand, I apologize for making my comments about you personally.  [I signed on to apologize, but you had already responded.]  Not that I didn't mean it and not that I don't think it is (still) true, but it was inappropriate in the context of this discussion.  I am sorry.  For real.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 19, 2013, 10:11:28 PM
Purely by coincidence an old friend from Georgia just sent me his DNA results and shared these sites:

Should anyone have an interest, the links are as follows:

African Ancestry   www.AfricanAncestry.com
The science behind our single lineage tests is the same as what most other companies offer. What makes African Ancestry different is:
We are the only company whose tests will place your African ancestry in a present-day country/region in Africa. Other companies will tell you that your lineage is from Africa but do not tell you where in Africa. Learn why African Ancestry is better than the competition in our Benefits section.
Our results package includes a Certificate of Ancestry, map of Africa, the African Ancestry country guide and more. See The Results for more information.
We are an African American-owned company and do not rely on any universities or foundations for financial support.

National Geographic   Test  # 1    https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/
Since its launch in 2005, National Geographic’s Genographic Project has used advanced DNA analysis and worked with indigenous communities to help answer fundamental questions about where humans originated and how we came to populate the Earth. Now, cutting-edge technology is enabling us to shine a powerful new light on our collective past. By participating in the latest phase of this real-time scientific project, you can learn more about yourself than you ever thought possible. You will also help support the Genographic Legacy Fund, which works to conserve and revitalize indigenous cultures around the world.

And especially for Oldsport:
Ancestry.com    http://dna.ancestry.com/   
Discover if you're part Scandinavian, West African, or maybe Native American. Meet a third cousin for the first time. When combined with 34 million family trees and 10 billion records on Ancestry.com, the new AncestryDNA creates the most comprehensive family history experience yet. It's family history, reinvented.     

FYI
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: uchighlander on June 20, 2013, 10:03:33 AM
Interesting....my wife and I are having genome testing done right now. I'm more interested in what kind of afflictions that I maight get rather than where I come from. It cost $100....spit into a vial....send it in and in 6 weeks you get the results. I'll let you know if we are related Bison. :) GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 20, 2013, 10:12:14 AM
 :o   :o   ;D

Wouldn't that be something?  Peas in a pod, huh? 
Stranger things have happened.

How much do you already know about your ancestry?
My Mom's runs through Tennessee and Virginia.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: uchighlander on June 20, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
:o   :o   ;D

Wouldn't that be something?  Peas in a pod, huh? 
Stranger things have happened.

How much do you already know about your ancestry?
My Mom's runs through Tennessee and Virginia.
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My mom was born in NC.....my dad in Omaha. I can guarantee...if we are related it will be on my mom's side.....my dad's parents were both born in Denmark. You part Viking?  :) GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 20, 2013, 10:36:29 AM
^ ^ ^  Only the DNA test will reveal that info.

But you never know....
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 20, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
? ?Neymar? ?

Neymar,
 :nono2:
 :nono2:

1)  EXCUSES

Thing is, THAT EXCUSE won't fly. 

You and everybody else has NO problem bringing up something new or tangential in any thread on O-dan.  Hell,...YOU brought up BROWN Mexicans, didn't you?

If it was about white Americans, why then did YOU start talking about mixing of races? 

So, thing is, that is some BS about the topic of the thread limiting you. 

But - EVEN IF WHAT YOU ARE NOW ASSERTING IS TRUE - you could have said that white people should be happy that African/Black people are browning up their children.

But you didn't and it is quite telling...despite your attempts at dissembling now.


2)  SCIENCE

You're living in La La Land, my Brother re: DNA.

How on the one hand are you going to "blame" mutations (SCIENCE!!!) and then discount science (DNA)?  Furthermore,...

If you are a mutant, Brother, you can't be original.  Simple as that.  Those who did not suffer from mutation are The Original.

We'll be waiting right here for you to post some SCIENCE to back up your assertions about mutations, OK?

You remind me of what Kwame Ture used to say and I paraphrase: 
People who don't know anything about physics imagine that they are talking about physics, but instead what they are actually doing is talking about talking about physics.

3)  APOLOGY

But, look, on the other hand, I apologize for making my comments about you personally.  [I signed on to apologize, but you had already responded.]  Not that I didn't mean it and not that I don't think it is (still) true, but it was inappropriate in the context of this discussion.  I am sorry.  For real.
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? ?Neymar? ?

We'll be waiting right here for you to post some SCIENCE to back up your assertions about mutations, OK?

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 20, 2013, 08:33:13 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color#Genetics_of_skin_color_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color#Genetics_of_skin_color_variation)

This would be a good place to start.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 20, 2013, 08:43:21 PM
I was already typing when you posted and - guess what - I have the same site for consideration!  Did you actually read what it says?  

There's some bolding  and color that I have added to help out.

Here's how I started before you responded....

While we wait for Neymar's response, we could consider:

Altho this is from Wiki, I am including the footnotes to the science):
Quote


Genetics of skin color variation[edit]

See also: Human genetic variation, Race and genetics, and Human genetic clustering
Genetic studies have discovered a number of genes that affect human skin colour across different populations. These studies suggest a 3-way model for the evolution of human skin colour, with dark skin evolving in early hominids in sub-Saharan Africa and light skin evolving separately in Europe and East Asia after modern humans had expanded out of Africa.[8][9][10][11][12][13]
Dark skin[edit]
All modern humans share a common ancestor who lived around 200,000 years ago in sub-Saharan Africa.[14] Comparisons between known skin pigmentation genes in chimpanzees and modern Africans show that dark skin evolved along with the loss of body hair about 1.2 million years ago and is the ancestral state of all humans.[15] Investigations into dark skinned populations in South Asia and Melanesia indicate that skin pigmentation in these populations is due to the preservation of this ancestral state and not due to new variations on a previously lightened population.[5][16]
MC1R
The melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R) gene is primarily responsible for determining whether pheomelanin and eumelanin is produced in the human body. Research shows at least 10 differences in MC1R between African and chimpanzee samples and that the gene is under strong functional constraint in Africa. This is consistent with positive selection for the high-eumelanin phenotype seen in Africa and other environments with high UV exposure.[15][16]
Light skin[edit]
For the most part, the evolution of light skin has followed different genetic paths in European and East Asian populations. Two genes however, KITLG and ASIP, have mutations associated with lighter skin that have high frequencies in both European and East Asian populations and have estimated origin dates after humans spread out of Africa but before the divergence of the European and Asian lineages.[11]

^ McEvoy Brian et al. (2006). "The genetic architecture of normal variation in human pigmentation: an evolutionary perspective and model". Human Molecular Genetics 15 (2): 176–181. doi:10.1093/hmg/ddl217.
^ Richard A Sturm (2009). Human Molecular Genetics 18: 9–17. doi:10.1093/hmg/ddp003.
^ a b c d e f Norton, H. L.; Kittles, R. A.; Parra, E.; McKeigue, P.; Mao, X.; Cheng, K.; Canfield, V. A.; Bradley, D. G. et al. (2006). "Genetic Evidence for the Convergent Evolution of Light Skin in Europeans and East Asians". Molecular Biology and Evolution 24 (3): 710–22. doi:10.1093/molbev/msl203. PMID 17182896.
^ a b c d e f Belezal, Sandra et al. (2012). "The timing of pigmentation lightening in Europeans". Molecular Biology and Evolution. doi:10.1093/molbev/mss207.
^ a b Edwards, Melissa; Bigham, Abigail; Tan, Jinze; Li, Shilin; Gozdzik, Agnes; Ross, Kendra; Jin, Li; Parra, Esteban J. (2010). "Association of the OCA2 Polymorphism His615Arg with Melanin Content in East Asian Populations: Further Evidence of Convergent Evolution of Skin Pigmentation". In McVean, Gil. PLoS Genetics 6 (3): e1000867. doi:10.1371/journal.pgen.1000867. PMC 2832666. PMID 20221248.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color

So, Neymar, if you are resting on that mutation:
According to the info you yourself now cite, THAT mutation did not occur until AFTER humans left Africa and then light skin evolved in Europeans and Asians.  So,.........

And my earlier geographic reference to skin color in East Africa is demonstrated quite nicely right here:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Unlabeled_Renatto_Luschan_Skin_color_map.svg/350px-Unlabeled_Renatto_Luschan_Skin_color_map.svg.png)

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 23, 2013, 12:19:54 AM
Neymar,
 :nono2:
 :nono2:

1)  EXCUSES

Thing is, THAT EXCUSE won't fly. 

You and everybody else has NO problem bringing up something new or tangential in any thread on O-dan.  Hell,...YOU brought up BROWN Mexicans, didn't you?

If it was about white Americans, why then did YOU start talking about mixing of races? 

So, thing is, that is some BS about the topic of the thread limiting you. 

But - EVEN IF WHAT YOU ARE NOW ASSERTING IS TRUE - you could have said that white people should be happy that African/Black people are browning up their children.

But you didn't and it is quite telling...despite your attempts at dissembling now..............


Neymar?

Your attempt at science did not go well for you, so do you want to respond to this excerpt from my previous post?
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on June 24, 2013, 10:42:15 PM
It went well enough actually.

I've been doing research, and am looking for an exact definition of "Person leaving Africa"

I am in research right now.

I found this to be interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation)
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 26, 2013, 12:15:45 AM
Neymar, Happy hunting.........because........

"actually", huh?  In what way, my young friend.

Certainly, THAT page  "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.

And if you are thinking that you'll be able to say later that you responded or countered what I posted (and you did, too), think again.

What "we" posted shows clearly that your "belief" is not based in science.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 29, 2013, 11:49:53 AM
We'll wake up one morning and the white folks will be gone. LOL

Long as they leave a few redheads, some blondes, and the red bones I will be ok with that :lol: :lol:

Hilarious. 
Enuff said.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on June 29, 2013, 12:22:00 PM
So Bison....what you are saying is the only reason there are light skinned blacks is because of rape? GO VIKINGS!!!

Sorry.  Missed your question.

No.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on July 03, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
We'll wake up one morning and the white folks will be gone. LOL

Long as they leave a few redheads, some blondes, and the red bones I will be ok with that :lol: :lol:

Hilarious. 
Enuff said.
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Why did you quote that in here?
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 04, 2013, 01:59:12 PM
Neymar, Happy hunting.........because........

"actually", huh?  In what way, my young friend.

Certainly, THAT page  "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.

And if you are thinking that you'll be able to say later that you responded or countered what I posted (and you did, too), think again.

What "we" posted shows clearly that your "belief" is not based in science.
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Try as you might, Neymar, you will not successfully deflect from the topic at hand.

I'll be happy to answer your question AFTER (There will be no line jumping!) your respond to my two posts in this thread re:

- the science of mutations  (STILL no results, huh?  happy hunting)
In particular, but not limited to,
Quote
"actually", huh?  In what way, my young friend?

Certainly, THAT page  "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
..because we BOTH know that was some lame BS you trotted out.

and
- excuses

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 21, 2013, 07:43:44 AM
NEYMAR?

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 21, 2013, 09:15:11 PM
It went well enough actually.

I've been doing research, and am looking for an exact definition of "Person leaving Africa"

I am in research right now.

I found this to be interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation)

Quote
You could just admit it was a terribly racist INACCURATE statement and retract it.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Rebakky96 on July 22, 2013, 05:58:40 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.


To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.

You're a dumbass Noora could not find a husband because of her attitude not because of her hair.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on July 22, 2013, 06:07:45 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.


To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.

You're a dumbass Noora could not find a husband because of her attitude not because of her hair.

 :lol:

Ask mom or Liaa. You were too young to realize what was really going on.

But funny enough you see the tree instead of the forest. No comment on your new European blood princess?
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 22, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
Neymar, your mind has been infected by Colorism and it is sad to see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color  -DEFINITION
http://www.colorismproject.com/

I'd be willing to bet that the darker people in your family have felt the sting of Colorism within your family.  Perhaps some of them are willing and brave enough to educate you about the hurts that they have felt as a result of the intra-family favoritism based on skin color.

Meanwhile and more to the point in this thread:
EVERYONE NOTICES that you have yet to acknowledge that you offered phony excuses for your "euro"-standards statements, NOR the science that you "claim" backs up your beliefs re: the development of skin color NOR how, as a Mutant (your claim), you could not possibly be the Original Man.

It is sad to see that an obviously intelligent person like you can be so confused and so bamboozled by white so-called supremacy thinking.  It is not too late for you to overcome your childhood socialization so that you will not end up like Oldsport.

I hope you will avoid that awful fate.

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 22, 2013, 11:37:37 PM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324049504578541712247829092.html

If you are really interested in what's taking place with Whites in America, I recommend you read Charles Murray's  excellent book, entitled, "Coming Apart: The State Of White America, 1960-2010.

You need to read specifically the last chapter entitled: Alternative Futures.

This was posted by the same person who accused others of being, what?, pre-occupied with white people after starting a thread on how whites came to dominate the world, etc., etc.!!!!
 :lmao:                 :lmao:                   :lmao:

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 29, 2013, 03:36:32 PM
Neymar? ?

Neymar, your mind has been infected by Colorism and it is sad to see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color  -DEFINITION
http://www.colorismproject.com/

I'd be willing to bet that the darker people in your family have felt the sting of Colorism within your family.  Perhaps some of them are willing and brave enough to educate you about the hurts that they have felt as a result of the intra-family favoritism based on skin color.

Meanwhile and more to the point in this thread:
EVERYONE NOTICES that you have yet to acknowledge that you offered phony excuses for your "euro"-standards statements, NOR the science that you "claim" backs up your beliefs re: the development of skin color NOR how, as a Mutant (your claim), you could not possibly be the Original Man.

It is sad to see that an obviously intelligent person like you can be so confused and so bamboozled by white so-called supremacy thinking.  It is not too late for you to overcome your childhood socialization so that you will not end up like Oldsport.

I hope you will avoid that awful fate.

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Neymar? ?

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on July 30, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
There is no colorism in my family. Our cousin could have been paler than the moon and there would have been little takers because of her hair(and what she was doing with it). I'm not saying anything is better or worse, it is just what it is.

Also, the hair issue has nothing to do with color. There are straight haired dark skinned sisters in my family too, and marriage was never a problem for their families.

Also a certain someone is going to run into issues to if she continues to go to the pub with her hair looking like this
(http://i44.tinypic.com/b9bol3.jpg)

 :tiptoe:

Rebekah? ;D
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on July 30, 2013, 05:44:46 PM
There is no colorism in my family.

You might be the prime example of it and the product of it.

Just ask around with the darker-skinned members of your family.

Meanwhile, despite your vague allusions elsewhere on this Board to speciation, you have failed to provide any scientific basis for the claims you have made in this thread.  Those claims have been debunked by the very first link YOU yourself offered in support of them. 

And your announced intention to do further research apparently have not given any support either.  If you find some science then we can discuss it.

Deal with it, but sarcastic remarks in an unrelated thread demonstrate your inability - so far - to give substance to your mistaken beliefs about skin color.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 06, 2013, 12:24:24 AM
Neymar, Happy hunting.........because........

"actually", huh?  In what way, my young friend.

Certainly, THAT page  "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.

And if you are thinking that you'll be able to say later that you responded or countered what I posted (and you did, too), think again.

What "we" posted shows clearly that your "belief" is not based in science.
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Try as you might, Neymar, you will not successfully deflect from the topic at hand.

I'll be happy to answer your question AFTER (There will be no line jumping!) your respond to my two posts in this thread re:

- the science of mutations  (STILL no results, huh?  happy hunting)
In particular, but not limited to,
Quote
"actually", huh?  In what way, my young friend?

Certainly, THAT page  "actually" does nothing to make your case - as you know.
..because we BOTH know that was some lame BS you trotted out.

and
- excuses

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Neymar?

Let us review...

You claimed that lighter skin color in northeastern Africa and in your family in particular was the result of mutations rather than miscegenation (which I asserted was the cause).

In support of your belief, you shared a link which said that color mutations did not occur among the original people until they had left Africa many, many thousands of years ago and the science there did NOT support your claim

When I pointed this out, you said you were going to do research on "people leaving Africa."

You did come back and post a second link, but it had little to nothing to do with what we had discussed and our point of contention.  But I am sure your sense of honor will not allow you to claim that somehow that link supported your point - because, as you know, it did not.

So, we are waiting to learn the results of your research.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Meciber 202 on August 06, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 10, 2013, 01:19:02 AM
So, Neymar, can't find any SCIENCE to support your unfounded belief, can you?

Also, you never explained how you claim to be a mutant AND the Original Man, two mutually exclusive beings.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 11, 2013, 10:33:04 PM
So, Neymar, can't find any SCIENCE to support your unfounded belief, can you?

Also, you never explained how you claim to be a mutant AND the Original Man, two mutually exclusive beings.
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Why should I find a white source to tell me what I am?

Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: iceman4221 on August 11, 2013, 10:54:18 PM
Neymar, stop being ridiculous, any source of evidence will do, it does not have to come from a White Wo/man...  

Stop hiding behind your own ignorance and just "Man Up" and admit that you shared an opinion that  can not be backed up by science, anthropology or archaeological... 

 :shrug:  No harm, no foul - just a simple admission that you don't know everything and you spoke on a subject that you have no expertise on...  :shrug: 
 
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 11, 2013, 10:57:23 PM
Neymar, stop being ridiculous, any source of evidence will do, it does not have to come from a White Wo/man...  

Stop hiding behind your own ignorance and just "Man Up" and admit that you shared an opinion that  can not be backed up by science, anthropology or archaeological...  

 :shrug:  No harm, no foul - just a simple admission that you don't know everything and you spoke on a subject that you have no expertise on...  :shrug:  
 

It would have to be white because he wants the white standard of evidence.

I tell an African man I come from the house of habesh, they accept it.

But over here we want science to come in and track particles because west Africans dont believe Africans can naturally have light skin.

Come on fam, we are keeping it real.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 11, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
So, Neymar, can't find any SCIENCE to support your unfounded belief, can you?

Also, you never explained how you claim to be a mutant AND the Original Man, two mutually exclusive beings.
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Why should I find a white source to tell me what I am?

Dude,

You are HILARIOUS!!!!

YOU are the one who said you were researching!!!!
(But we ALL see that you are just dodging the issue because I already pointed that out and you already knew that.)

Here YOU are:
It went well enough actually.

I've been doing research, and am looking for an exact definition of "Person leaving Africa"

I am in research right now.

I found this to be interesting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation)

But now that you can't find anything to back up your belief (the link above does nothing to help you), you are making more excuses a la my earlier comments...

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Meanwhile and more to the point in this thread:
EVERYONE NOTICES that you have yet to acknowledge that you offered phony excuses for your "euro"-standards statements, NOR the science that you "claim" backs up your beliefs re: the development of skin color NOR how, as a Mutant (your claim), you could not possibly be the Original Man.

It is sad to see that an obviously intelligent person like you can be so confused and so bamboozled by white so-called supremacy thinking.  It is not too late for you to overcome your childhood socialization so that you will not end up like Oldsport.

I hope you will avoid that awful fate.

Plus, you're the only one equating science with white folks!!  Now your comments in the "Egypt" thread are starting to make a little more sense.

If you find some science then we can discuss it, but if not - and it is apparent that you have no capability or intention to do so - you could save ALL of us a lot of time by taking your own advice:

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You could just admit it was a terribly racist INACCURATE statement and retract it.

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 11, 2013, 11:38:27 PM
Neymar, if someone advised you to take this line of argument, you should NEVER listen to them again about anything!!  :lmao:

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It would have to be white because he wants the white standard of evidence.

I tell an African man I come from the house of habesh, they accept it.

But over here we want science to come in and track particles because west Africans dont believe Africans can naturally have light skin.

Dude, YOU were the one saying you were researching.
YOU are the one who quoted Wiki!!!!!   Twice!!!!  Is Wiki non-white???

Your inconvenient problem is that the first link DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED your belief.   :brickwall: The second one was silent on the issue in contention.

By the way, IMO Africans CAN have various colors of skin NATURALLY.  Nothing more natural than people of different races/colors having children together and producing children of various shades.

Take Iceman's advice.  You're beginning to look silly
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 12, 2013, 11:56:06 AM
I am researching too.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 12, 2013, 01:16:31 PM
Keep us posted, Neymar.

Perhaps the work of multi-genius Cheikh Anta Diop will help you out.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQN78fc2J48OZAENN9UuapwCTf8xFaBNHmDmC6wp-FQsaF4JrTOUA)

Is HE Black enough for you?

We'll be checking back with you from time to time because something which you seem to believe is so "obvious" shouldn't be too hard to find, Right?  Especially in the age of the Internet.

It's now time to tell you that when you pointed at others (Moi?) with one finger, three of your own fingers were pointing at you!
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You know there is something wrong when college educated black folks, on this site, can sit back and deny facts of speciation, or even evolution.
http://onnidan1.com/forum/index.php/topic,77393.msg635167.html#msg635167

YES!  It IS shame that a college educated person like you denies facts....while you research.

Meanwhile...

Mad props to Meciber and Iceman for "keeping it real!"
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 14, 2013, 11:30:20 PM
Neymar!

I found this.

Perhaps it will help your research.  It is about "the Habesha People."

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQK2JHVm1bTscFtY2vg8_Byf5v2NUSBPQYHG0VzMbtSZ6eEviE_Rw)

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In the past, scholars including Hiob Ludolf and Carlo Conti Rossini postulated that the ancient communities that evolved into the modern Ethiopian state were formed by a migration across the Red Sea of Semitic-speaking South Arabians around 1000 BC, who intermarried with local non-Semitic-speaking peoples. Both the indigenous languages of Southern Arabia and the Amharic, Guragigna and Tigrinya languages of Ethiopia belong to the large family of South Semitic languages...

...Traditional scholarship has assumed that the Habashat were a tribe from modern-day Yemen that migrated to Ethiopia and Eritrea. However, the Sabaic inscriptions only use the term ḥbšt to the refer to the Kingdom of Aksum and its inhabitants, especially during the 3rd century, when the ḥbšt (Aksumites) were often at war with the Sabaeans and Himyraites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habesha_people


NOTE from the footnotes:  "The name of this web page was chosen due to our desire to select a neutral and commonly shared term of reference for both Ethiopians and Eritreans. Since the site's inception, however, we have learned that many in Ethiopia do not associate with the term 'Habesha', as it excludes groups such as the Oromo, the Somali, and the many Southern Nationalities And Peoples. We have also learned that there are a number of Eritreans who do not refer to themselves as 'Habesha' such as Rashaidas, Kunamas and others."

Seems to be quite a bit of controversy about who is who, etc.

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For over two millenniums, the word 'Habesha' and its numerous variants (Habashat, Habasa, Habesh, Habeshi, Abesha) have been used to name geographical pockets of territory and people extending from the Arabian Peninsula to the furthest limits of the Horn of Africa region. Although the word is of great antiquity, there is no consensus on what it actually means. In order to understand why this is the case, we must first look back at its origins.

Most of the earliest inscriptions mentioning Habesha deal with wars, alliances and peace treaties among rivaling Yemeni kingdoms - this reference below is no different:

"Shamir of Dhu-Raydan and Himyar had called in the
help of the clans of Habashat for war against the kings of Saba;
but Ilmuqah granted ... the submission of Shamir of Dhu-Raydan
and the clans of Habashat."[1]

This inscription tells us that Shamir of Dhu-Raydan, who is almost certainly the Himyarite king Shamir Yuhahmid, requested assistance from the Habashat clans to go to war with Saba, a rivaling Yemeni kingdom. The inscription also credits Ilmuqah, who was the Sun God that most inhabitants on both sides of the Red Sea worshiped, for granting them victory over their Sabaean rivals.[/size]
http://www.madote.com/2013/01/the-true-origin-of-habesha.html

There is even angry opposition to the use of the term:
http://www.ethiotube.net/video/22329/I-am-NOT-Habesha-do-not-insult-me-with-that-stupid-name-by-Brown-Condor-Teddy-Fikre

The Sista is STRONG with the poetry spoken word!!!
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: PharoahNupe94 on August 15, 2013, 10:07:24 AM
Neymar, stop being ridiculous, any source of evidence will do, it does not have to come from a White Wo/man...  

Stop hiding behind your own ignorance and just "Man Up" and admit that you shared an opinion that  can not be backed up by science, anthropology or archaeological...  

 :shrug:  No harm, no foul - just a simple admission that you don't know everything and you spoke on a subject that you have no expertise on...  :shrug:  
 

It would have to be white because he wants the white standard of evidence.

I tell an African man I come from the house of habesh, they accept it.

But over here we want science to come in and track particles because west Africans dont believe Africans can naturally have light skin.

Come on fam, we are keeping it real.

Neymar, I've been reading your comments and you have me scratching my head.  Do you feel that African women can naturally have light skin becasue base off your statement in the past you make it seem that you have to be mix or have some white blood to have lighter skin.
black folks dont have to mix to have lighter skin bro.
back away from the tv.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: PharoahNupe94 on August 15, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
(fist bump) to Bison66
Feed him (neymar) man....feed him  :lol:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 27, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
I am researching too.

So,.....Neymar............

What results can you report from your research?

Did you check to see what Dr. Diop had to say, if anything, on YOUR CLAIMS?

Or are you just telling us something that you "heard" about?

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 27, 2013, 01:37:26 PM
So that guy doesnt want to be called habesha, but he will accept being called burnt face eh?

Those clowns on the ER forum say it best

(http://oi42.tinypic.com/tagavp.jpg)
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Funny Ole Teddy boy has no issues with labeling himself and others Habesha
https://ar-ar.facebook.com/TeddyBCFikre/posts/154932724628328 (https://ar-ar.facebook.com/TeddyBCFikre/posts/154932724628328)

He wants to be a politician it seems.

Nice poem by the woman though. Lord knows we all can relate.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 27, 2013, 05:07:24 PM
You ACT ^ ^ ^ like I only cited one guy.  I cited others who embraced the term.

Meanwhile, you are avoiding.....

I am researching too.

So,.....Neymar............

What results can you report from your research?

Did you check to see what Dr. Diop had to say, if anything, on YOUR CLAIMS?

Or are you just telling us something that you "heard" about?

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 29, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
OK, Neymar.

I think I know what your argument will be AFTER THIS POST:

The Italians were the ONLY invaders in history not to take (and/or rape) or marry women of the local populace.

Will that be it?

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The 1880s were marked by the Scramble for Africa in Ethiopia and Eastern Africa, when the Italians began to vie with the British and French for influence in the area. Asseb, a port near the southern entrance of the Red Sea, was bought by in March 1870 from the local Afar sultan, vassal to the Ethiopian Emperor, by an Italian company, which by 1890 led to the Italian colony of Eritrea being established. From then on, the Kingdom of Italy attempted to take control of Ethiopia.

Conflicts between the two countries resulted in the Battle of Adwa in 1896, whereby the Ethiopians defeated Italy and remained independent, under the rule of Menelik II. Italy and Ethiopia signed a provisional treaty of peace on 26 October 1896, but in the next years Italians started to pursue the "avenge of Adua" as a matter of national honor.

The avenge indeed came when Benito Mussolini started to expand the African colonial possessions of Italy in the 1930s.

In October 1935, Mussolini launched the Second Italo-Abyssinian War and invaded Ethiopia. Emperor Haile Selassie fled the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa on 2 May 1936 and the Italians entered the city on 5 May, after bloody battles.

Victory was announced on 9 May 1936 and Mussolini declared the creation of the "Italian Empire". The Italians merged Eritrea, Italian Somalia, and newly captured Ethiopia into Italian East Africa (Africa Orientale Italiana, A.O.I.).

The Italian King Victor Emmanuel III added Emperor of Ethiopia to his titles.

Mussolini dreamed of sending millions of Italian settlers to Italian East Africa, and Italians had high hopes of turning the area into an economic asset: huge investments were done in the creation of needed infrastructures (roads, airports, hospitals, etc..).

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Soldatietiopia.jpg/250px-Soldatietiopia.jpg)
Italian soldiers and colonists starting their travel to conquest and colonize Ethiopia in 1935

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/images/film/adwa/w448/adwa.jpg?1311484747)

From 1936 to the start of World War II Mussolini controlled much of Ethiopia, but a guerrilla war raged in areas of Ethiopia still controlled by partisans linked to Haile Selassie (who was exiled in Great Britain).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_of_Ethiopia

I couldn't be more proud of the valiant struggle of the Ethiopian people before, at Adwa and after.  They were an inspiration to African / Black people around the world when they were victorious at Adwa and afterwards as they gallantly fought to regain their independence.

Haile Gerima, film maker and (?former?) Howard Univeristy professor made an award winning film on the battle of Adwa.  An Ethiopian countryman of his and friend of mine, recently told me that Gerima still has a retail store (Sankofa, I believe is the name) for videos, books, etc on Georgia Ave right near the campus.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209898/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511N7-%2BJ84L._SY300_.jpg)

Here's a scene from the movie, but the link does not open for me tonight:
http://www.ethiotube.net/video/18416/Adwa-An-African-Victory--A-scene-from-Haile-Gerimas-Adwa

Haile Gerima
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/auteurs_production/images/cast_member/17801/original.jpg)
http://mubi.com/films/adwa

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 30, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
No need for blacks to get giddy because US wealth will not change hands as demographics and political parties change; e.g. see South Africa.

Wealth and power influences the masses as to whom they will readily identify themselves as.  I heard in a couple of African countries there is a restriction that only the natives can own land and this has caused foreigners to marry those African country natives in numbers that would have never occur if that law wasn't enforced.  

It is about the color of the skin - see Neymar - and secondly the texture of the hair especially for women that makes one socially acceptable or unacceptable in a huge percentage of this world.


To be honest, I'd say for women hair is everything. I've seen it for myself personally in Egypt. Girls with that kink kink are either Hijabi or pressing it out every week or so. Loose curls are acceptable though. Thing is, it is hell to marry them off if it isnt. The old man had a few in his family, and when I would be in Egypt during the times it was time to find a man for them it was always brought up....and these were light girls. Like, they werent phoenician light, but they were light enough to turn the heads in Asmara if you catch my drift.

You're a dumbass Noora could not find a husband because of her attitude not because of her hair.

Rebakky96,

Are you still with us?

I have a question you might be able to help with.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 31, 2013, 01:50:47 PM
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:

Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 31, 2013, 02:28:09 PM
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:

Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....

Youngster,

Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........

I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.

But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 31, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:

Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....

Youngster,

Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........

I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.

But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
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Its funny because it is typical Italian behavior. Lose and then cheat.

From the 40s to the 2006 world cup where they felt the need to racially abuse the greatest player of a generation to get him sent off. Italians are cheaters by nature.

Underaged for all questions, not just the ones you are thinking.

Research is coming along well I'm dropping bombshells from my grandmother next time I speak to her. She got a big book of our family from pre christian days. We'll check for whites person by person. :nod:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 31, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:

Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....

Youngster,

Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........

I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.

But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
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Its funny because it is typical Italian behavior. Lose and then cheat.

From the 40s to the 2006 world cup where they felt the need to racially abuse the greatest player of a generation to get him sent off. Italians are cheaters by nature.

Underaged for all questions, not just the ones you are thinking.

Research is coming along well I'm dropping bombshells from my grandmother next time I speak to her. She got a big book of our family from pre christian days. We'll check for whites person by person. :nod:

You're just filled up with stereotypes, aren't you?

One thing I am certain of - Rebakky96 can speak for herself.  She put you on location quite nicely.  And you seem overly-eager to keep her out of the conversation.

As you move from science to anecdote,....Be sure to check for Arabs, too.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 31, 2013, 06:19:36 PM
We were winning against Italy in WW2 before they broke international law by using chemical weapons. :lol:

Also she is underaged if you are getting ideas....

Youngster,

Not sure how the "lol" fits into the conversation........

I have lots of ideas, but as a very happily married man, they have nothing to do with what your mind is dwelling upon.

But, please update us on your research FINDINGS.
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Its funny because it is typical Italian behavior. Lose and then cheat.

From the 40s to the 2006 world cup where they felt the need to racially abuse the greatest player of a generation to get him sent off. Italians are cheaters by nature.

Underaged for all questions, not just the ones you are thinking.

Research is coming along well I'm dropping bombshells from my grandmother next time I speak to her. She got a big book of our family from pre christian days. We'll check for whites person by person. :nod:

You're just filled up with stereotypes, aren't you?

One thing I am certain of - Rebakky96 can speak for herself.  She put you on location quite nicely.  And you seem overly-eager to keep her out of the conversation.

As you move from science to anecdote,....Be sure to check for Arabs, too.
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As Avenue Q said so eloquently in song.

"Ethnic jokes may be uncouth, but you laugh because they're based on truth"

 :lol:

The words of the ancestors are science in the realm of family.

and also a petty insult was only placing someone on notice in the world of the oldsports. Kid who was too young to realize the reason no dudes were biting to marry her cousin gets told a lie by her aunt so she does not grow up to be shallow. She got the truth 10 years later :lol:

I'll be sure to let you know you were put "On Location" next time Y hurls a random insult at you in a political thread though...since that is putting things on location now :nod: ;)
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 31, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
Whatever.   ::)

All of this could have been avoided had you just admitted you were incorrect on the science.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Neymar on August 31, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
Whatever.   ::)

All of this could have been avoided had you just admitted you were incorrect on the science.
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White units of measurement.
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on August 31, 2013, 09:17:08 PM
You do realize that we have here a written record of our discussion, right?

In it, IT IS YOU WHO FIRST OFFERED UP SOME SCIENCE TO BACK UP WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE.  IT WAS "WHITE" WHEN YOU CITED IT.

Unfortunately, THAT VERY SAME, EXACT SCIENCE INFORMATION CONTRADICTED your belief.

You've been on roller skates ever since trying to avoid that FACT.  And part of that is to try to pretend that YOU did not offer up the info and implying that I am the one insisting on "white" info.  I am the one who suggested that you check Dr. Anta Diop's research and he is most definitely Black.

So you can play this game and pretend it is the issue, but everyone reading the thread realizes that you are just ducking and dodging - and not doing it well at that.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on September 04, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
Neymar,

If you wish to continue this conversation, this is a better thread to do it in.  I have removed the portion of my response dealing with the Syria situation which does not relate this thread.

Neymar said:
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More like she has a natural body shape for a woman that works out and does not take in processed foods like the women you would see over here.

Also I didnt respond to your fallacious statement because you and I both know that it was meant only as an incendiary device in a thread.

You have a western lens mate. How you going to attack the looks Asma have when it is the same looks that makes you want action? Lets not beat around the bush shall we? Wink

First off, you can give all the excuses you want for not answering, but everyone notices that you did not.

As to your "ideal" woman, you must keep in mind that "beauty IS in the eye of the beholder", and it is in YOUR eye, not mine.  I don't find her attractive in ANY way.  You do and she seems to be the only "type" that you do, that's why I asked my question. 

You can't answer, but at least I can appreciate that you didn't lie about it.

You call me "mate" and say I have a western eye?  LOL  Then you admire the "beauty" of "light, damn near white" women and tell me I have a western eye.  You talk about a Black woman's natural hair being an impediment to her getting married (AS IF there weren't millions of women with natural hair who found a husband) and say I have a western eye.  Pure PROJECTION, dude:

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Projection

Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people. For example, if you have a strong dislike for someone, you might instead believe that he or she does not like you. Projection works by allowing the expression of the desire or impulse, but in a way that the ego cannot recognize, therefore reducing anxiety.

......

...You will recall that our "conversation" began with me taking exception to YOU thanking white people for giving "us" mixed raced babies who grow up into women that YOU find attractive. 

And you tell me I have a "western eye", "mate?"   :lmao:    :lmao:
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on October 05, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
?Neymar?
You do realize that we have here a written record of our discussion, right?

In it, IT IS YOU WHO FIRST OFFERED UP SOME SCIENCE TO BACK UP WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE.  IT WAS "WHITE" WHEN YOU CITED IT.

Unfortunately, THAT VERY SAME, EXACT SCIENCE INFORMATION CONTRADICTED your belief.

You've been on roller skates ever since trying to avoid that FACT.  And part of that is to try to pretend that YOU did not offer up the info and implying that I am the one insisting on "white" info.  I am the one who suggested that you check Dr. Anta Diop's research and he is most definitely Black.

So you can play this game and pretend it is the issue, but everyone reading the thread realizes that you are just ducking and dodging - and not doing it well at that.
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How's your "research" on "peoples leaving Africa" going?

?Neymar?


And......

Incidentally, how do you reconcile (I ask so we may enjoy watching you run away or twist yourself into a pretzel!) this statement of yours:

"The words of the ancestors are science in the realm of family."

with

your statement very early in this thread about NOT trusting your ancestors' belief that animals coming close to a funeral are carrying the spirits of the dead person?  (paraphrase)

How do you reconcile those two views? ? ? ?

Correct me if I am wrong (facts and logic will be appreciated), but it seems that you say whatever you think at the moment will support the point you are trying to make.
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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: Bison66 on September 10, 2021, 04:35:26 PM
I could have started another thread with this SCIENCE, but it fits too well in this old one.

Neymar will like it because it's from one of his British mates...  However, it contradicts one of his hair-brained theories about his own heritage.

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Europeans have not always been light skinned, and Caucasians are in fact a fairly new development on the continent, relatively speaking.

According to a new study reported in Science Magazine, it has been found that Caucasions are the product of “a patchwork of evolution in different places” across Europe, while scientist have discovered three genes that produce light skin – both of which have played a part in the lightening of Europeans’ skin colour over the past 8,000 years.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-europeans-evolved-have-white-skin-starting-around-8-000-years-ago-a108256.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-europeans-evolved-have-white-skin-starting-around-8-000-years-ago-a108256.html)

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Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: iceman4221 on September 10, 2021, 09:12:07 PM
Is that the Bell Curve murray??? and what has that to do with dying?- you trying to tell me Murray has an alternative to death??  he must be Jesus Christ in disguise.

(https://sdk.bitmoji.com/render/panel/7e679f17-d25f-4f8f-9263-2e0e620ff1b1-3f671c4d-0070-4b71-8391-a88a79bb7df8-v1.png?transparent=1&palette=1)(https://sdk.bitmoji.com/render/panel/eb8fe515-6324-4cab-826d-96a4b87ef47b-3f671c4d-0070-4b71-8391-a88a79bb7df8-v1.png?transparent=1&palette=1)(https://sdk.bitmoji.com/render/panel/8450516c-5d5c-4890-8363-98ed30890c81-3f671c4d-0070-4b71-8391-a88a79bb7df8-v1.png?transparent=1&palette=1)
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: blue72 on September 11, 2021, 07:19:07 AM
- When they die, they bury them quickly, don't want then turning too dark. :no:
Title: Re: MORE WHITE AMERICANS DYING THAN BEING BORN
Post by: CIAA-FAN on September 19, 2021, 10:00:37 PM
 :popcorn: