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Title: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Bison 4 Life on January 25, 2011, 01:32:47 AM
http://abovethelaw.com/2011/01/clarence-thomas-and-his-wifes-680000-of-unreported-income/# (http://abovethelaw.com/2011/01/clarence-thomas-and-his-wifes-680000-of-unreported-income/#)
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: ‘87 Alum on January 25, 2011, 09:05:12 AM
interesting...i heard about this yesterday and waited for someone to post this here.  i bet some will avoid this thread like the bubonic plague...or akin to roaches in the kitchen when you turn on the lights....
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 09:19:43 AM
Thier reply would be "At least he did not get his hair dyed".
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: oldsport on January 25, 2011, 09:21:05 AM
No big deal. You have a POTUS who won't release his actual birth certicate and other vital documents to authenicate that he is who and what he says he is as well as what his supporters believe who is. You have a Sec. Treasury who didn't pay his taxes.  Do I need to go on - IDIOTS.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 09:23:59 AM
Well I guess the birth certificate is no big deal, so you can stop bitching about everything.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: ‘87 Alum on January 25, 2011, 09:27:46 AM
I guess it's no big deal when you have a man sitting on the highest court in the land solely responsible for making legal decisions for all is fraudulently misreporting earned income...yeah, that's no big deal....i want to see where this is going to lead to....
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 09:29:37 AM
Well according to OS you can steal money from the federal goverment as long as you can produce your birth certificate.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: oldsport on January 25, 2011, 09:59:02 AM
Well according to OS you can steal money from the federal goverment as long as you can produce your birth certificate.

You boy Barry has a hired some theives and corrupt MF's. You K----s don't complain about it and seem perfectly comfortable with that.

YOU DYAM IDIOTS.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: 81alphaeagle on January 25, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
Well according to OS you can steal money from the federal goverment as long as you can produce your birth certificate.
Oh hell nawl.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Black Panther40 on January 25, 2011, 11:29:38 AM
No big deal. You have a POTUS who won't release his actual birth certicate and other vital documents to authenicate that he is who and what he says he is as well as what his supporters believe who is. You have a Sec. Treasury who didn't pay his taxes.  Do I need to go on - IDIOTS.

Brother OS,

Your argument is akin to the folks that cheered when O.J. was acquitted the first time.  Blind to the fact that he probably did it . . .or knew who did it (inquiring minds still want to know).

Either way, you still got to call it out.  Let's play . . . I'll go first.

Lil' Timmy!!! you were wrong for not paying your taxes.  A SS and Medicare oversight?  For someone as smart as they say, how could you miss that?!?  I would assume that you probably paid somone to do your taxes for you, so what kind of quack did you use?  Did you use Madoff's in house CPA?!?!  I also know that good help is hard to find, but you got to know when it comes to domestic help, you already playing with fire.  You got to dot your "I"s, and cross your "T"s  Come on, Craig . . .

O.K., your turn.  Go ahead and call out Brother Clarence . . .


Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Bison66 on January 25, 2011, 11:35:09 AM
To Clarify:

The reports are that Thomas failed to list his wife's income on his financial disclosure forms; NOT that he failed to report the income on his tax forms.

The first is still a federal offense according to the article.

Not conceding to Obamaphobics re: doing more than is legally required by the State of Hawaii is NOT a federal offense.

O0

Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: oldsport on January 25, 2011, 11:54:33 AM
Steven Lubet, an expert on judicial ethics at Northwestern University School of Law, said that such an infraction was unlikely to result in a penalty. While unfamiliar with the Thomas complaint, he said that failure to disclose spousal income "is not a crime of any sort, but there is a potential civil penalty" for failing to follow the rules. He added: "I am not aware of a single case of a judge being penalized simply for this."

The Supreme Court is, "the only judicial body in the country that is not governed by a set of judicial ethical rules," Gillers said.

Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Bison66 on January 25, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
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The Supreme Court is, "the only judicial body in the country that is not governed by a set of judicial ethical rules," Gillers said.

Now......THERE's a high thinking defense for you!!!

O0
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 12:07:28 PM
According to Judge Pigmeat markham, "Failure to show a bunch of dumb idiots your birth certificate ain't a crime either".  Like Supreme Court judges, normal Americans don't have to show a birth certificate just because some nuts demand to see them.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Wildman78 on January 25, 2011, 12:25:58 PM
I dont' think Justice Thomas' failure to report his wife's income is that big a deal. I am required have to fill out a similar form every year. It's a pain in the butt. However, it's hard to believe that Justice Thomas' ommission was inadvertant.

BTW, President Obama did provide a birth certificate. Unfortunately, the birthers aren't satisfied with that one. As far as I know, no legislative body or court has required the President to produce anything.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Bison66 on January 25, 2011, 12:31:14 PM
Steven Lubet, an expert on judicial ethics at Northwestern University School of Law, said that such an infraction was unlikely to result in a penalty. While unfamiliar with the Thomas complaint, he said that failure to disclose spousal income "is not a crime of any sort, but there is a potential civil penalty" for failing to follow the rules. He added: "I am not aware of a single case of a judge being penalized simply for this."

The Supreme Court is, "the only judicial body in the country that is not governed by a set of judicial ethical rules," Gillers said.

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Lubet might want to try telling that to Rachelle Thomas-Zuill, a former FBI employee in San Francisco, who pleaded guilty earlier this month to making false statements to a government agency, which is a felony.

Lubet also might want to familiarize himself with 18 U.S. Code 1001, the statute under which Thomas-Zuill was prosecuted. The law makes it a crime to knowingly and willfully make "any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation" in any matter "within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States."
http://open.salon.com/blog/rogershuler/2011/01/24/has_clarence_thomas_committed_a_crime/comment

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Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
So as usual OS did not tell the WHOLE story.  Sort of like NAZI Propaganda, he only gives bits and pieces of an article that will make him look good.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Ken on January 25, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
We know Thomas is not of the judicial branch so he is exempt.
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Wildman78 on January 25, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
Steven Lubet, an expert on judicial ethics at Northwestern University School of Law, said that such an infraction was unlikely to result in a penalty. While unfamiliar with the Thomas complaint, he said that failure to disclose spousal income "is not a crime of any sort, but there is a potential civil penalty" for failing to follow the rules. He added: "I am not aware of a single case of a judge being penalized simply for this."

The Supreme Court is, "the only judicial body in the country that is not governed by a set of judicial ethical rules," Gillers said.

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Lubet might want to try telling that to Rachelle Thomas-Zuill, a former FBI employee in San Francisco, who pleaded guilty earlier this month to making false statements to a government agency, which is a felony.

Lubet also might want to familiarize himself with 18 U.S. Code 1001, the statute under which Thomas-Zuill was prosecuted. The law makes it a crime to knowingly and willfully make "any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation" in any matter "within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States."
http://open.salon.com/blog/rogershuler/2011/01/24/has_clarence_thomas_committed_a_crime/comment

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Nah. Nothing is going to come of this.

§ 104. Failure to file or filing false reports

(a) The Attorney General may bring a civil action in any appropriate United States district court against any individual who knowingly and willfully falsifies or who knowingly and willfully fails to file or report any information that such individual is required to report pursuant to section 102. The court in which such action is brought may assess against such individual a civil penalty in any amount, not to exceed $10,000.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode05a/usc_sec_05a_00000104----000-.html
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: Bison66 on January 25, 2011, 04:47:25 PM
Wildman,

I agree.
Nothing will come of it.
But...that don't make it right.

O0
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: soflorattler on January 25, 2011, 05:40:13 PM
According to Judge Pigmeat markham.....


 :lmao: :lmao:

Man! What you know about Pigmeat Markham... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Clarence & Ginnie Thomas did not disclose income
Post by: EB on January 25, 2011, 08:48:25 PM
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I should state that I have met more than a few people from the Savannah, Georgia area, where Justice Thomas' hometown is near, and find them to be very intelligent.