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Title: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: soflorattler on January 22, 2011, 01:54:40 AM
(CNN) -- After eight years together, MSNBC and Keith Olbermann are parting ways.

A statement from NBC Universal revealed the move late Friday. "MSNBC and Keith Olbermann have ended their contract," it read, "The last broadcast of 'Countdown with Keith Olbermann' will be this evening. MSNBC thanks Keith for his integral role in MSNBC's success and we wish him well in his future endeavors."

At the end of his show Friday night, Olbermann announced his departure in typical deadpan style, evoking scenes from the film "Network" and thanking viewers for keeping him on the air for eight years.

"In the mundane world television goodbyes, reality is laughably uncooperative," Olbermann said before launching into a story about his exit from ESPN 13 years ago.

"As God as my witness, in the commercial break just before the emotional moment, the producer got into my earpiece and he said, 'um, can you cut it down to 15 seconds so we get in this tennis result from Stuttgart,'" he said, half-smiling, pausing for composure.

"So I'm grateful I have a little more time to sign off here. Regardless this is the last edition of 'Countdown.' "

Olbermann thanked his crew and co-workers, with special praise for the man he called "my greatest protector and most indefatigable cheerleader," Tim Russert, the host of NBC's "Meet the Press" who died in 2008.

Olbermann was suspended for two days in November of 2010 after the news website Politico revealed donations made to to three Democrats seeking federal office. One of them was Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was wounded earlier this month in a mass shooting and attempted assassination in Tucson.

He gave $2,400 -- the maximum individual amount allowed -- to Giffords' campaign, and the campaigns of Kentucky Senate candidate Jack Conway and Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva. Conway lost his bid, while Grijalva and Giffords eked out wins.

NBC said the donations violated a policy that requires employees of the news organization to obtain permission ahead of any political donations or activities that could be deemed as a conflict of interest.

Olbermann complained publicly about his frustration with NBC's management. He made it clear that he resented the insinuation that he was attempting to hide his actions.

"When a website contacted NBC about one of the donations, I immediately volunteered that there were in fact three of them; and contrary to much of the subsequent reporting, I immediately volunteered to explain all this, on-air and off, in the fashion MSNBC desired," Olbermann also said in a statement released during the time.

He also accused NBC of "inconsistently"applying its policy and suspending him without first hearing his side of the story.

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I saw this coming after Comcast took over. Who's next?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: y04185 on January 22, 2011, 05:36:05 AM
good riddance.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on January 22, 2011, 12:15:34 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: y04185 on January 22, 2011, 12:31:31 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 22, 2011, 12:44:42 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: soflorattler on January 22, 2011, 12:47:13 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: y04185 on January 22, 2011, 01:03:43 PM
gma weekend reported this morning that as part of his termination he can not work on tv for an extended period of time.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Strike79 on January 22, 2011, 03:03:27 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: y04185 on January 22, 2011, 03:06:26 PM
there is no void at msnbc.  six months from now you people will say keith who.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Strike79 on January 22, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
good riddance.
......"good riddance" of WHAT, reasoned, informed, and intelligent commentary and analysis?  Do you REALLY think the garbage disseminated on Fox News channel, a lineup including that ridiculous woman from Alaska, serves the public interest?

No doubt MSNBC serves as a left-leaning alternative to the hate and vitriol spewed on Fox daily, but they back up everything they say with cogent, supportable FACTS!!!!!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 22, 2011, 03:18:45 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.

I'd ask you to consider or reconsider Lawrence O'Donnell . I've been watching his show and I think he does a good job.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: EB on January 23, 2011, 01:17:26 AM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.

Add me to the list.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: 81alphaeagle on January 23, 2011, 01:36:20 AM
gma weekend reported this morning that as part of his termination he can not work on tv for an extended period of time.
You lie, post a link.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Professor on January 23, 2011, 02:23:42 AM
MSNBC just lost a lot of viewers
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: y04185 on January 23, 2011, 06:46:29 AM
gma weekend reported this morning that as part of his termination he can not work on tv for an extended period of time.
You lie, post a link.

no lie.  i just watched the gma video.  ron claiborne referenced the new york times.  olbermann won't be on tv for an extended period.  olbermann also had 30 million remaining on his contract. 
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 23, 2011, 09:05:16 AM
Friday’s separation agreement between MSNBC and Mr. Olbermann includes restrictions on when he can next lead a television show and when he can give interviews about the decision to end his association with the news channel.

The executives involved in the discussions confirmed that the deal carries limitations for Mr. Olbermann in terms of when he can next work on television, though he will be able to take a job in radio or on any forum on the Internet. The deal also prohibits the host from commenting publicly on the deal, the executives confirmed.


http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/olbermanns-msnbc-exit-was-weeks-in-the-making/
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Valley Girl on January 23, 2011, 09:13:48 AM
I think most of the entertainment personalities sign a non-compete clause.....
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 23, 2011, 09:28:09 AM
^^^^Yeah, but it's unclear as to when he can host another show, and I don't whether he is prevented from being a contributor on an existing show.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Valley Girl on January 23, 2011, 09:45:50 AM
The standard time seems to be 6 months.....I wonder how long he has to wait and where he will end up...

I don't know if going to CNN is an option....they want to be "neutral" and having Keith onboard would turn them to the left..

I could see him on Headline News.....he can be as opinionated as he wants to on there...Nancy Grace sure isn't short on opinions...although her show is a different format...
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Strike79 on January 24, 2011, 03:25:15 PM
The standard time seems to be 6 months.....I wonder how long he has to wait and where he will end up...

I don't know if going to CNN is an option....they want to be "neutral" and having Keith onboard would turn them to the left..

I could see him on Headline News.....he can be as opinionated as he wants to on there...Nancy Grace sure isn't short on opinions...although her show is a different format...
VG,

I got turned off by CNN around 6mos or so ago when they started alot of senseless Obama bashing in an attempt to position themselves as neither right nor left, but so-called straight with the "facts".   ::) As a result, their ratings have plummeted, they have no discernible identity, and I sure as hell don't feel sorry for them.

Also offensive is the inclusion of Elliot Spitzer into a primetime position in the lineup.  Here is a guy who went down in abject DISGRACE as governor of NY when it was revealed he was spending TONS of money on high priced prostitutes and trying to cover it up.  So this guy gets a prime time spot, yet one can't seemingly be found for Roland Martin or any of their other distinguished cabal of black journalists?  :(

Screw CNN.  >:(
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on January 24, 2011, 03:41:09 PM
LARRY O'DONNELL NOW GETS THE 8:00PM MSNBC SLOT AND I BELIEVE THAT RACHEL MADOW IS THE HEIR APPARENT TO OLBERMANN.  O'DONNELL IS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER AND HE COMES FROM THE "OLD SCHOOL" OBJECTIVE NEWSCASTER AND IS NOT A SHOWMAN, LIKE OLBERMAN WAS AT TIMES, TO EXCESS.

I WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH MSNBC BUT I WILL TRULY MISS OLBERMANN.  I WONDER WHERE HE WILL LAND IN A FEW MONTHS?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on January 25, 2011, 12:58:42 PM


I don't know if going to CNN is an option....they want to be "neutral" and having Keith onboard would turn them to the left..

One show/person can turn the direction of an entire network?
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: EB on January 25, 2011, 03:12:08 PM
I will be watching the new lineup.

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Rick Sanchez: I Would Consider Taking Keith Olbermann's Job (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/25/rick-sanchez-i-would-cons_n_813819.html)

First Posted: 01/25/11 02:37 PM Updated: 01/25/11 02:37 PM

Rick Sanchez says he would consider taking Keith Olbermann's job at MSNBC.

In an interview with RumorFix, Sanchez said that, if he was offered Olbermann's old gig, "it would be worth considering."

.....
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Strike79 on January 25, 2011, 04:18:55 PM
I will be watching the new lineup.

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Rick Sanchez: I Would Consider Taking Keith Olbermann's Job (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/25/rick-sanchez-i-would-cons_n_813819.html)

First Posted: 01/25/11 02:37 PM Updated: 01/25/11 02:37 PM

Rick Sanchez says he would consider taking Keith Olbermann's job at MSNBC.

In an interview with RumorFix, Sanchez said that, if he was offered Olbermann's old gig, "it would be worth considering."

.....
.......naaah, I don't think so.  Sanchez is a loose cannon, and wouldn't be on for six weeks before he said something stupid.

I am disconcerted, however, about the lack of "non-white" faces in MSNBC's prime time lineup.  I think the sistah (forgotten her name, but an academic type) who used to occasionally fill in for Rachel during her absences would make a terrific addition to the lineup.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: soflorattler on January 26, 2011, 04:14:16 AM
The standard time seems to be 6 months.....I wonder how long he has to wait and where he will end up...

I don't know if going to CNN is an option....they want to be "neutral" and having Keith onboard would turn them to the left..

I could see him on Headline News.....he can be as opinionated as he wants to on there...Nancy Grace sure isn't short on opinions...although her show is a different format...
VG,

I got turned off by CNN around 6mos or so ago when they started alot of senseless Obama bashing in an attempt to position themselves as neither right nor left, but so-called straight with the "facts".   ::) As a result, their ratings have plummeted, they have no discernible identity, and I sure as hell don't feel sorry for them.

Also offensive is the inclusion of Elliot Spitzer into a primetime position in the lineup.  Here is a guy who went down in abject DISGRACE as governor of NY when it was revealed he was spending TONS of money on high priced prostitutes and trying to cover it up.  So this guy gets a prime time spot, yet one can't seemingly be found for Roland Martin or any of their other distinguished cabal of black journalists?  :(

Screw CNN.  >:(

Olbermann Split Came After Years of Tension (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/business/media/24olbermann.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all)

MSNBC never had any doubt about what it was getting when it made Keith Olbermann the face of the network in 2003: a highly talented broadcaster, a distinctive and outspoken voice and a mercurial personality with a track record of attacking his superiors and making early exits.

Even his own boss, Phil Griffin, offered this assessment in 2008, when Mr. Olbermann was being heavily criticized by supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton because he was urging her to drop out of the race to become the Democratic presidential candidate.

For Mrs. Clinton’s supporters, Mr. Griffin said in an interview with The New Yorker magazine, “It was, like, you meet a guy and fall in love with him.” But, he said, “then you commit yourself to him, and he turns out to be a jerk and difficult and brutal.”

Still, the news of his abrupt departure from “Countdown” — delivered by Mr. Olbermann on Friday night — came as a shock to his many fans, some of whom accused Comcast, the incoming owner of MSNBC’s parent, NBC Universal, of forcing out the host for political reasons.

Many people inside the television industry are astonished that a cable network’s highest-rated host, whose forceful personality and liberal advocacy had lifted MSNBC from irrelevance to competitiveness and profitability, would be ushered out the door with no fanfare, no promoted farewell show and only a perfunctory thanks for his efforts.

But underlying the decision, which one executive involved said was not a termination but a “negotiated separation,” were years of behind-the-scenes tension, conflicts and near terminations.

Mr. Griffin, along with Jeff Zucker, the head of NBC Universal, and Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, had long protected and defended Mr. Olbermann, even when insiders like the NBC anchor emeritus Tom Brokaw publicly took Mr. Olbermann to task. Mr. Brokaw said Mr. Olbermann had “gone too far” in campaign coverage that openly took Democratic positions.

Inside the offices of MSNBC, staff members grew more restive about Mr. Olbermann’s temperament. Some days Mr. Olbermann threatened not to come to work at all and a substitute anchor had to be notified to be on standby.

Mr. Olbermann was within one move of being fired in November after he was suspended for making donations to Democratic Congressional candidates. He threatened to make an appearance on ABC’s “Good Morning America” to protest the suspension; Mr. Zucker was prepared to fire him on the spot if he did, according to a senior NBC Universal executive who declined to be identified in discussing confidential deliberations.

The pattern of great promise followed by eventual disaffection was established early in Mr. Olbermann’s career. As a young sports reporter for UPI Television, he was fired for telling his boss “this is the minor leagues here.” In the early 1980s, he had a short, stormy tenure at CNN.

He achieved national prominence on ESPN’s “SportsCenter” in the early 1990s, but left after a difficult time that included a reprimand for making an appearance on “The Daily Show” without permission. He labeled his departure from ESPN in 1997 a “nuclear war.”

Mr. Olbermann popped up on MSNBC for the first time in 1998, hosting a news show that evolved, against his wishes, into a nightly examination of the Clinton sex scandal. He left and joined the Fox Sports Network. That stint ended in acrimony as well. Rupert Murdoch, head of the News Corporation, which ran the sports network, later said, “I fired him; he’s crazy.”

He joined MSNBC in 2003 as a fill-in host. Less than two months later, Mr. Olbermann won the job full time. He transformed the show into “Countdown,” and he — and MSNBC — were off and running.

He managed to expand his audience steadily. Starting from a base of a couple hundred thousand viewers, he jumped more than 50 percent from 2006 to 2007, reaching 726,000. From there he built the show until it surpassed one million viewers a night, still well behind Fox News but ahead of CNN.

In a New Yorker interview, Mr. Griffin of MSNBC recalled those early appearances: “First day he was in TV, I knew right away that Keith had something that I’d never seen. He was made for this. I mean, the guy is crazy, but he is made for this.”

(In the same interview, Mr. Olbermann could not help commenting: “Phil thinks he’s my boss.”)

Even some of those at MSNBC who acknowledged being spurned or insulted by Mr. Olbermann said they remained in awe of his productivity and the effect he had on the network. Several considered him in essence a five-day-a-week editorial writer, who had to perform his editorial live on television.

It was an “incredible energy expenditure,” one longtime acquaintance of his said, suggesting that there was no reason to think Mr. Olbermann would stay in his chair indefinitely.

Mr. Olbermann himself alluded to the stresses of the job when he said on Friday night, “There were many occasions, particularly in the last two and a half years, where all that surrounded the show, but never the show itself, was just too much for me.”

In an interview, Mr. Griffin acknowledged that Mr. Olbermann was a “brand definer” for MSNBC — not just because of the success of “Countdown” but because his show was used to develop other hosts for the network as well.

Rachel Maddow started as a frequent “Countdown” guest, as did Lawrence O’Donnell, who began as a fill-in host for Mr. Olbermann and will inherit his 8 p.m. time slot on Monday. Mr. Griffin called Mr. Olbermann “the tent pole at the center” of the network’s sensibility.

At the same time, stories about Mr. Olbermann’s thin skin circulated widely in the newsroom. One such story, which was recalled independently by two hosts, dates to early December, when Mr. O’Donnell, then carving out some success as the 10 p.m. host on MSNBC, collegially proposed via e-mail that Mr. Olbermann come on his show to talk about President Obama’s tax-cut compromise.

Mr. O’Donnell had written this post on Twitter: “Liberal critics of the Obama deal say exactly what Pat Buchanan said of George H. W. Bush: he’s weak.” The message speculated that Mr. Obama’s critics would do to him what Mr. Buchanan “did to H.W. Bush: destroy him and help elect a president from the other party.”

Mr. Olbermann apparently interpreted the message as a personal attack; he declined to appear on Mr. O’Donnell’s show. “I saw what you wrote on Twitter,” he snapped at Mr. O’Donnell.

In the last several months, the relationship began moving toward its denouement: Mr. Olbermann hired new agents from the big firm ICM in September, parting from Jean Sage, the agent who had steered his career through all its previous rocky shoals. Several NBC executives said the move was made to facilitate an eventual settlement of the two years left on Mr. Olbermann’s contract.

Mr. Olbermann’s future is up in the air, mainly because he agreed to a deal that would keep him off television for six to nine months, according to several executives involved in his exit. He is also apparently forbidden to discuss his departure.

One NBC executive involved in the decision to settle Mr. Olbermann’s contract said that he was allowed to work in radio or on the Internet and would presumably be free to return to television in time for the 2012 election cycle.

As for MSNBC, Mr. Griffin expressed confidence in the network’s new lineup: Mr. O’Donnell at 8, Ms. Maddow at 9 and Ed Schultz at 10. It was not clear exactly how long that plan had been in place, however. The anchors did not find out that their shows were shifting until the public announcement on Friday night.

Mr. Griffin said: “I believe the changes that have been made fit who we are. We’re going to be as creative as ever. We’ll be there.”

But they will be there without Mr. Olbermann, the tent pole that the network built itself around.

One NBC News executive said on Sunday: “Give us a bit of credit for getting eight years out of him. That’s the longest he’s been anywhere.”
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: uchighlander on January 26, 2011, 10:14:43 AM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.

I'd ask you to consider or reconsider Lawrence O'Donnell . I've been watching his show and I think he does a good job.
He does a good job lecturing people....that's what he does well. GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 26, 2011, 11:11:36 AM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.

I'd ask you to consider or reconsider Lawrence O'Donnell . I've been watching his show and I think he does a good job.
He does a good job lecturing people....that's what he does well. GO VIKINGS!!!

I think he does a good job of questioning/interviewing people too.

Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: EB on January 26, 2011, 12:35:09 PM
Consortium News / By Robert Parry

What the Hell Happened to Keith Olbermann? (http://www.alternet.org/media/149639/what_the_hell_happened_to_keith_olbermann/)
MSNBC's parent company, General Electric, never seemed comfortable with some of Olbermann's material.

January 23, 2011  |  Though Olbermann hosted MSNBC’s top-rated news show, “Countdown with Keith Olbermann,” he disappeared from the network with only the briefest of good-byes. Certainly, the callous treatment of Olbermann by the MSNBC brass would never be replicated by Rupert Murdoch’s right-wing Fox News toward its media stars.

At Fox News, the likes of Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity have far greater leeway to pitch right-wing ideas and even to organize pro-Republican political events. Last November, Olbermann was suspended for two days for making donations to three Democratic candidates, including Arizona’s Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was wounded in the Jan. 8 shooting in Tucson.

Now, with Olbermann’s permanent departure on Friday, the remainder of MSNBC’s liberal evening line-up, which also includes Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Lawrence O’Donnell (who will fill Olbermann’s 8 p.m. slot), must face the reality that any sustained friction with management could mean the bum’s rush for them, too.

The liberal hosts also must remember that MSNBC experimented with liberal-oriented programming only after all other programming strategies, including trying to out-Fox Fox, had failed – and only after it became clear that President George W. Bush’s popularity was slipping.

In nearly eight years at “Countdown,” Olbermann was the brave soul who charted the course for other mainstream media types to be even mildly critical of Bush. Olbermann modeled his style after legendary newsman Edward R. Murrow, who stood up to excesses by communist-hunting Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s, even borrowing Murrow’s close: “Good night, good luck.”

But MSNBC’s parent company, General Electric, never seemed comfortable with Olbermann’s role as critic of the Bush administration, nor with the sniping between Olbermann and his Fox News rival, O’Reilly, who retaliated by attacking corporate GE on his widely watched show.

.....
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on January 26, 2011, 01:08:43 PM


I don't know if going to CNN is an option....they want to be "neutral" and having Keith onboard would turn them to the left..

One show/person can turn the direction of an entire network?

???

He did for MSNBC...
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: uchighlander on January 26, 2011, 01:10:50 PM
Everyone is making a big deal about this. MSNBC is ranked 28th......yes 28th among cable TV and Olbermann was their best draw. That's like saying you are the tallest midget in room full of midgets. BFD. GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on January 26, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Olbermann Split Came After Years of Tension (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/24/business/media/24olbermann.html?_r=2&hp=&pagewanted=all)

MSNBC never had any doubt about what it was getting when it made Keith Olbermann the face of the network in 2003: a highly talented broadcaster, a distinctive and outspoken voice and a mercurial personality with a track record of attacking his superiors and making early exits.

Even his own boss, Phil Griffin, offered this assessment in 2008, when Mr. Olbermann was being heavily criticized by supporters of Hillary Rodham Clinton because he was urging her to drop out of the race to become the Democratic presidential candidate.

For Mrs. Clinton’s supporters, Mr. Griffin said in an interview with The New Yorker magazine, “It was, like, you meet a guy and fall in love with him.” But, he said, “then you commit yourself to him, and he turns out to be a jerk and difficult and brutal.”

Still, the news of his abrupt departure from “Countdown” — delivered by Mr. Olbermann on Friday night — came as a shock to his many fans, some of whom accused Comcast, the incoming owner of MSNBC’s parent, NBC Universal, of forcing out the host for political reasons.

Many people inside the television industry are astonished that a cable network’s highest-rated host, whose forceful personality and liberal advocacy had lifted MSNBC from irrelevance to competitiveness and profitability, would be ushered out the door with no fanfare, no promoted farewell show and only a perfunctory thanks for his efforts.

But underlying the decision, which one executive involved said was not a termination but a “negotiated separation,” were years of behind-the-scenes tension, conflicts and near terminations.

Mr. Griffin, along with Jeff Zucker, the head of NBC Universal, and Steve Capus, the president of NBC News, had long protected and defended Mr. Olbermann, even when insiders like the NBC anchor emeritus Tom Brokaw publicly took Mr. Olbermann to task. Mr. Brokaw said Mr. Olbermann had “gone too far” in campaign coverage that openly took Democratic positions.

Inside the offices of MSNBC, staff members grew more restive about Mr. Olbermann’s temperament. Some days Mr. Olbermann threatened not to come to work at all and a substitute anchor had to be notified to be on standby.

Mr. Olbermann was within one move of being fired in November after he was suspended for making donations to Democratic Congressional candidates. He threatened to make an appearance on ABC’s “Good Morning America” to protest the suspension; Mr. Zucker was prepared to fire him on the spot if he did, according to a senior NBC Universal executive who declined to be identified in discussing confidential deliberations.

The pattern of great promise followed by eventual disaffection was established early in Mr. Olbermann’s career. As a young sports reporter for UPI Television, he was fired for telling his boss “this is the minor leagues here.” In the early 1980s, he had a short, stormy tenure at CNN.

He achieved national prominence on ESPN’s “SportsCenter” in the early 1990s, but left after a difficult time that included a reprimand for making an appearance on “The Daily Show” without permission. He labeled his departure from ESPN in 1997 a “nuclear war.”

Mr. Olbermann popped up on MSNBC for the first time in 1998, hosting a news show that evolved, against his wishes, into a nightly examination of the Clinton sex scandal. He left and joined the Fox Sports Network. That stint ended in acrimony as well. Rupert Murdoch, head of the News Corporation, which ran the sports network, later said, “I fired him; he’s crazy.”

He joined MSNBC in 2003 as a fill-in host. Less than two months later, Mr. Olbermann won the job full time. He transformed the show into “Countdown,” and he — and MSNBC — were off and running.

He managed to expand his audience steadily. Starting from a base of a couple hundred thousand viewers, he jumped more than 50 percent from 2006 to 2007, reaching 726,000. From there he built the show until it surpassed one million viewers a night, still well behind Fox News but ahead of CNN.

In a New Yorker interview, Mr. Griffin of MSNBC recalled those early appearances: “First day he was in TV, I knew right away that Keith had something that I’d never seen. He was made for this. I mean, the guy is crazy, but he is made for this.”

(In the same interview, Mr. Olbermann could not help commenting: “Phil thinks he’s my boss.”)

Even some of those at MSNBC who acknowledged being spurned or insulted by Mr. Olbermann said they remained in awe of his productivity and the effect he had on the network. Several considered him in essence a five-day-a-week editorial writer, who had to perform his editorial live on television.

It was an “incredible energy expenditure,” one longtime acquaintance of his said, suggesting that there was no reason to think Mr. Olbermann would stay in his chair indefinitely.

Mr. Olbermann himself alluded to the stresses of the job when he said on Friday night, “There were many occasions, particularly in the last two and a half years, where all that surrounded the show, but never the show itself, was just too much for me.”

In an interview, Mr. Griffin acknowledged that Mr. Olbermann was a “brand definer” for MSNBC — not just because of the success of “Countdown” but because his show was used to develop other hosts for the network as well.

Rachel Maddow started as a frequent “Countdown” guest, as did Lawrence O’Donnell, who began as a fill-in host for Mr. Olbermann and will inherit his 8 p.m. time slot on Monday. Mr. Griffin called Mr. Olbermann “the tent pole at the center” of the network’s sensibility.

At the same time, stories about Mr. Olbermann’s thin skin circulated widely in the newsroom. One such story, which was recalled independently by two hosts, dates to early December, when Mr. O’Donnell, then carving out some success as the 10 p.m. host on MSNBC, collegially proposed via e-mail that Mr. Olbermann come on his show to talk about President Obama’s tax-cut compromise.

Mr. O’Donnell had written this post on Twitter: “Liberal critics of the Obama deal say exactly what Pat Buchanan said of George H. W. Bush: he’s weak.” The message speculated that Mr. Obama’s critics would do to him what Mr. Buchanan “did to H.W. Bush: destroy him and help elect a president from the other party.”

Mr. Olbermann apparently interpreted the message as a personal attack; he declined to appear on Mr. O’Donnell’s show. “I saw what you wrote on Twitter,” he snapped at Mr. O’Donnell.

In the last several months, the relationship began moving toward its denouement: Mr. Olbermann hired new agents from the big firm ICM in September, parting from Jean Sage, the agent who had steered his career through all its previous rocky shoals. Several NBC executives said the move was made to facilitate an eventual settlement of the two years left on Mr. Olbermann’s contract.

Mr. Olbermann’s future is up in the air, mainly because he agreed to a deal that would keep him off television for six to nine months, according to several executives involved in his exit. He is also apparently forbidden to discuss his departure.

One NBC executive involved in the decision to settle Mr. Olbermann’s contract said that he was allowed to work in radio or on the Internet and would presumably be free to return to television in time for the 2012 election cycle.

As for MSNBC, Mr. Griffin expressed confidence in the network’s new lineup: Mr. O’Donnell at 8, Ms. Maddow at 9 and Ed Schultz at 10. It was not clear exactly how long that plan had been in place, however. The anchors did not find out that their shows were shifting until the public announcement on Friday night.

Mr. Griffin said: “I believe the changes that have been made fit who we are. We’re going to be as creative as ever. We’ll be there.”

But they will be there without Mr. Olbermann, the tent pole that the network built itself around.

One NBC News executive said on Sunday: “Give us a bit of credit for getting eight years out of him. That’s the longest he’s been anywhere.”

Well, the author of THAT article doesn't seem biased at all. ::)

I'd take the above B.S. with a tiny grain of sand... not even salt.  :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on January 26, 2011, 01:19:58 PM
Everyone is making a big deal about this. MSNBC is ranked 28th......yes 28th among cable TV and Olbermann was their best draw. That's like saying you are the tallest midget in room full of midgets. BFD. GO VIKINGS!!!

::)

Folks, ignore ignorance and check the ratings for yourselves....

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/01/25/life-after-king-and-olbermann-same-as-it-ever-was-cable-news-ratings-for-monday-january-24-2011/80182
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on January 26, 2011, 01:22:58 PM
good riddance.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST OF KEITH?  I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING.  DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.  :lmao:

he won't be on tv anytime soon.  that's a good thing.

I think you are probably wrong about that.  Also, I enjoyed watching his show.

Me too, and I agree.. :nod:
........me, too, and was actually watching the program last nite when he signed off.  I was just as stunned as everyone else.  His departure leaves a serious void at MSNBC.  Save Rachel Maddow and, perhaps, a couple of others, the rest of that lineup just doesn't intrigue me at all.

I'd ask you to consider or reconsider Lawrence O'Donnell . I've been watching his show and I think he does a good job.

I agree. O'Donnell is EXCELLENT, though I could live without his penchant for ambushing right-wingers so violently.

Tim Russert had a way of making people show who they were while still appearing neutral and professional. Larry gets red hot from time to time....
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Meciber 202 on January 26, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
I thought about what Palin said .... and now wonder why is so easy to "shut-up" the voices on the Left ... what a coincidence.  :tiptoe:

It appears the GOP-cons have a lot of "juice" when it involves the media. I heard Comcast is new boss for MSNBC ...
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 26, 2011, 01:41:37 PM
Everyone is making a big deal about this. MSNBC is ranked 28th......yes 28th among cable TV and Olbermann was their best draw. That's like saying you are the tallest midget in room full of midgets. BFD. GO VIKINGS!!!

2010 Numbers: MSNBC…
MSNBC is noting its 2010 ratings…

MSNBC BEATS CNN FOR SECOND YEAR IN A ROW IN PRIMETIME – 2010 RATINGS

MSNBC BEATS CNN FOR THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR IN PRIMETIME AMONG A25-54 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN TOTAL VIEWERS

MSNBC Tops CNN in Total Day and Sales Day for the first time ever in A25-54

CNN Hits All-Time Lows at 7 p.m., 8 p.m., and 9 p.m.

NEW YORK – December 20, 2010 – MSNBC ends 2010 on a high note, beating CNN in primetime for the second year in a row among A25-54 and for the first time ever in total viewers, while CNN drops to record lows in primetime.

The following are MSNBC ratings highlights for 2010 (data through December 16, 2010):

* MSNBC ranked #2 in primetime and beat CNN for the second year in a row with A25-54 and for the first time ever in total viewers topping them in M-F (P2+:873,000 vs. 641,000/A25-54: 249,000 vs. 186,000) and M-Su (P2+ 765,000 vs. 595,000/A25-54 249,000 vs. 174,000). CNN had their lowest primetime delivery ever in A25-54 and total viewers.

* In 2010, “Morning Joe” beat CNN’s “American Morning” among total viewers for the first time ever (387,000 vs. 310,000). “Morning Joe” had the best delivery ever for MSNBC in the 6-9 a.m. time slot while CNN had their smallest audience in the time slot since 2000.

* 2010 marks the best total viewer performance in the 6 p.m. hour ever for MSNBC, with “The Ed Show” ranked #2 in both A25-54 and total viewers for the full year. Compared to 2009, “The Ed Show” is up +8% in A25-54 and +20% in total viewers, while CNN has dropped –28% in A25-54 and –29% in total viewers. CNN had their lowest 6 p.m. delivery in A25-54 since 1999 and the lowest total viewer average since 2002. “The Ed Show” had 642,000 total viewers (vs. 543,000 for CNN) and 157,000 A25-54 (vs. 149,00 for CNN).

* “Hardball with Chris Matthews” at 7 p.m. ranked #2 with A25-54 (172,000) and P2+ (634,000), beating CNN in the hour for the first time ever. CNN delivered lowest A25-54 and total viewers in the hour ever (137,000 A25-54 and 462,000 P2+).

* “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” ends 2010 with a huge lead over CNN, rating #2 for the 4th consecutive year with total viewers (1.038 million vs. 527,000) and A25-54 (269,000 vs. 149,000). With the end of “Campbell Brown” and the start of “Parker Spitzer,” CNN hit all-time lows in the hour with both adults and total viewers.

* In 2010, “The Rachel Maddow Show” ranked #2 at 9 p.m. beating CNN’s “Larry King Live” for the full year the first time ever among A25-54 (256,000 vs. 177,000) and total viewers (954,000 vs. 676,000). 2010 was the lowest rated year ever for “Larry King Live.”

* The combination of “The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell” and the “Countdown” encore at 10 p.m. ranked #2 in 2010, beating CNN’s live editions of “Anderson Cooper 360″ among A25-54 (217,000 vs. 207,000) and P2+ (674,000 vs. 667,000). Since the premiere, “The Last Word” has ranked #2 and topped “AC360” among total viewers and A25-54.

* MSNBC placed #2 in Total Day (M-Su 6 a.m.-6a.m.) for the year, beating CNN for the first time ever among A25-54 (141,000 vs. 133,000). MSNBC also topped CNN for the year in Sales Day (M-Su 6 a.m-2a.m.) in A25-54 for the first time ever (146,000 vs. 143, 000).

* In 2010, MSNBC is # 1 in delivering African American and Hispanic viewers for the first time ever (M-Su Primetime).

http://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/2010-numbers-msnbc/
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: uchighlander on January 26, 2011, 03:43:04 PM
And with all that being said.....they are still at # 28 among all other cable networks. GO VIKINGS!!!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on January 26, 2011, 03:49:29 PM
And with all that being said.....they are still at # 28 among all other cable networks. GO VIKINGS!!!

...AND YOUR POINT IS WHAT?  MOST PEOPLE WATCH TV (CABLE OR OTHERWISE) FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND NOT POLITICAL COMMENTARY.
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Wildman78 on January 26, 2011, 03:52:35 PM
And with all that being said.....they are still at # 28 among all other cable networks. GO VIKINGS!!!

And that may not be a significant fact in the context of this discussion.  There are many, many cable networks. Nubmber 28 maybe a decent rank for a Cable News Network. Apparently during prime time, MSNBC is ranked number 2 among cable news networks. That seems significant to  me.

It would help if you identified the source for your assertion.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on January 26, 2011, 03:55:55 PM
You folks let politically motivated ignorance drag you down the primrose path.  :nono2:

Can't you all see a good non sequitur when it's staring you in the face? :shrug:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Meciber 202 on January 26, 2011, 05:04:59 PM
^^^^ yes, but his brain has been working so hard to find something that sticks (anything) ... would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. ... it's a cry-out for Y to send help.  :'(
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: uchighlander on January 26, 2011, 05:15:16 PM
^^^^ yes, but his brain has been working so hard to find something that sticks (anything) ... would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. ... it's a cry-out for Y to send help.  :'(
Talk about working hard....I'm not the one giving reasons why being the tallest midget in a room full of midgets is a great thing. GO VIKINGS!!!!
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: soflorattler on February 11, 2011, 08:48:15 PM
gma weekend reported this morning that as part of his termination he can not work on tv for an extended period of time.
You lie, post a link.

no lie.  i just watched the gma video.  ron claiborne referenced the new york times.  olbermann won't be on tv for an extended period.  olbermann also had 30 million remaining on his contract. 

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

Keith Olbermann To Current TV: Hosting New Show, Becoming Chief News Officer (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/08/keith-olbermann-newshow-current-tv-news-officer_n_820198.html?utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily+Brief&utm_campaign=daily_brief)

Keith Olbermann announced on Tuesday that he will host a one-hour, nightly primetime show on Current TV starting in late spring. He will also become the "chief news officer" for Current. Olbermann had been without a television home since he abruptly left MSNBC, where he had hosted "Countdown" for eight years, in January.

For Olbermann, his move to Current gives him a chance to wield large influence over a a relatively tiny network. Current averages about 23,000 viewers in primetime every night--a far cry from the million or so viewers who watched "Countdown."

In a conference call with reporters on Tuesday morning, Olbermann said that "nothing is more vital to a free America than a free media, and nothing is more vital to my concept of a free media than news that is produced independently of corporate interference." He called Current "the model truth seeking entity" in television, and said that his new show was "the most exciting event in my career."

Olbermann said the show "will be for all intents and purposes an improved and we hope amplified and stronger version of the show that I just did at my previous network." He could not, however, provide details of the name and time of the show, saying only, "stay tuned."

Al Gore, the chairman of Current TV, also spoke on the conference call. He said he was "extremely honored and delighted" that Olbermann was coming to Current. He said Olbermann was a "great fit with Current in every way."

Olbermann will also be the executive producer of the new show. In the conference call, he called Current the only "independent news and information" channel in the United States. He said he was looking forward to working somewhere where "purely market forces are not the deciding factor in what we're doing here."

A reporter asked if Olbermann would be able to donate to political candidates in his new position-- a reference to the suspension Olbermann received at MSNBC for his donations to three Democrats.

"The answer is yes," Gore said. "We believe at Current that every citizen has freedom of speech, and that freedom of speech includes the ability to donate to candidates of your choice." He added that "full disclosure of that is
important."

As Chief News Officer, Current CEO Mark Rosenthal said, Olbermann will be intimately involved with all of the channel's news and informational programming.

Current has already launched a website for Olbermann's upcoming show. Here's a screenshot of what it looks like now:

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/245634/KEITH-OLBERMANN.jpg)


http://current.com/keith-olbermann/
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on February 12, 2011, 06:38:14 AM
LOOKS AS IF HE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD AN EMPIRE ON  HIS OWN TERMS STARTING WITH A VERY SMALL NETWORK.    I WOULDN'T BET AGAINST HIM.   :clap:
Title: Re: Keith Olbermann signs off from MSNBC
Post by: Cholly on February 12, 2011, 10:18:48 AM
Well, I know I will be watching his program.  :clap: