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Title: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 15, 2022, 04:39:47 PM
https://youtu.be/ZunULpX_cWI
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 19, 2022, 04:43:58 AM
https://youtu.be/ZMl4C2qIF4Y
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Golden Kitten on July 19, 2022, 01:18:48 PM
Looking more and more like both... :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on July 19, 2022, 04:20:48 PM
Looking more and more like both... :tiptoe:
:nod:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Bison66 on July 19, 2022, 06:13:23 PM
Y'all might be right.

The ONLY bright spot I see is the formation of the Federal Grand Jury about which we have heard next to nothing.

Garland's DOJ has been - it seems from the outside - dragging its feet in obvious cases of criminality by #ErraticTrump and his CULT members.

The Fulton County DA has subpoenaed folks and notified others they are possible "targets" for interfering in a FEDERAL election, but the DOJ ain't said a peep.

Fake electors file paperwork in a Presidential eletion with the NATIONAL ARCHIVES (clearly a Federal entity), but the DOJ is asleep at the wheel.

Time will tell, but the tiny bit of optimism the creation of the Grand Jury instilled in me is fading quickly.

If Garland finally comes in like the cavalry, then I will pleased.... and surprised.

O0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on July 19, 2022, 08:57:47 PM
Many try to spin his foot-dragging as being meticulous and methodical ensuring all "I"s are dotted and "T"s are crossed, and periods and exclamation points are in the right place. Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 19, 2022, 09:12:39 PM
This is the main reason I wasn't a proponent of Kamala Harris being chosen as the VP. She would have been more effective and better served the country had she been appointed Attorney General.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: iceman4221 on July 19, 2022, 11:35:30 PM
Many try to spin his foot-dragging as being meticulous and methodical ensuring all "I"s are dotted and "T"s are crossed, and periods and exclamation points are in the right place. Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.

SoFloRattler I hope you are right on this one!!!!
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Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 20, 2022, 09:08:02 AM
https://youtu.be/NZKqOeR89bI
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Sierra on July 20, 2022, 10:10:52 AM
Many try to spin his foot-dragging as being meticulous and methodical ensuring all "I"s are dotted and "T"s are crossed, and periods and exclamation points are in the right place. Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.
^^^, I agree.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 20, 2022, 03:29:25 PM
AG Garland reiterates 'no person' -- not even Trump -- is above the law over Jan. 6


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ag-garland-reiterates-person-trump-law-jan/story?id=87140695&cid=social_fb_abcn
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Bison66 on July 21, 2022, 06:35:05 AM
AG Garland reiterates 'no person' -- not even Trump -- is above the law over Jan. 6


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ag-garland-reiterates-person-trump-law-jan/story?id=87140695&cid=social_fb_abcn

Thanks, bluedog

Encouraging.

Time will tell...


O0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on July 21, 2022, 09:02:31 AM
AG Garland reiterates 'no person' -- not even Trump -- is above the law over Jan. 6


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ag-garland-reiterates-person-trump-law-jan/story?id=87140695&cid=social_fb_abcn

Thanks, bluedog

Encouraging.

Time will tell...


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That's just it. Time is short. After his investigation and evidence gathering, issuing an indictment (if any) and a lengthy trial will take a long time. His time may run out if the GOP takes control again, and this all will be for naught. This has already taken more time than it should have, IMO. :no:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Wildman78 on July 21, 2022, 09:40:55 AM


That's just it. Time is short. After his investigation and evidence gathering, issuing an indictment (if any) and a lengthy trial will take a long time. His time may run out if the GOP takes control again, and this all will be for naught. This has already taken more time than it should have, IMO. :no:


The earliest the Republicans can gain control of the executive branch is January 2025.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on July 21, 2022, 10:01:37 AM


That's just it. Time is short. After his investigation and evidence gathering, issuing an indictment (if any) and a lengthy trial will take a long time. His time may run out if the GOP takes control again, and this all will be for naught. This has already taken more time than it should have, IMO. :no:


The earliest the Republicans can gain control of the executive branch is January 2025.

WM, can you remember the longest time it took a federal case to come to trial (hint: The McMartin Preschool Abuse Trial)? After motions, and appeals of motion decisions to come to the actual trial beginning? Then the length of the trial to verdict?
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Nomenclature on July 21, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Still holding out hope Trump is gonna get got, huh? If he was, he would have been by now.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Wildman78 on July 21, 2022, 10:32:33 AM

WM, can you remember the longest time it took a federal case to come to trial (hint: The McMartin Preschool Abuse Trial)? After motions, and appeals of motion decisions to come to the actual trial beginning? Then the length of the trial to verdict?

I do not believe the McMartin case was a federal case. Also, there are no depositions in federal criminal trials. I suspect that if Trump is indicted within a year.

This case is particularly unique  (sui generis).

Fani Willis is taking her time as well. Letitia James is also taking her time with the civil case in New York.

This a criminal prosecution of a former President

I suspect that if Trump is indicted, the case will be resolved within a year
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on July 21, 2022, 10:54:54 AM
My biggest concern is not if, but when (time).
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on July 21, 2022, 11:10:35 AM
SEE HIS INTERVIEW THAT WAS ON "MORNING JOE" THIS MORNING ON MSNBC.  HE IS NEITHER A COWARD OR INCOMPETENT.  HE EXPLAINED THE DETAILED REVIEW, ANALYSIS AND INVESTIGATION THAT IS ON-GOING.  WE ALL WANT QUICK RESULTSBUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE RESULTS OF HIS ACTIONS WILL ULTIMATELY WITHSTAND ANY ATTACKS FROM THE RIGHT-WING SCOTUS.  TRUST ME ON THIS.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: LULions on July 21, 2022, 01:00:56 PM
'Trump is above the law,' SE Cupp says in response to AG's remark
Attorney General Merrick Garland made his strongest comments yet about whether he'll charge former President Donald Trump saying that 'no...

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/07/21/attorney-general-merrick-garland-sot-reaction-cupp-avlon-toobin-newday-vpx.cnn

Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 21, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
https://twitter.com/SimonPh_Nix/status/1550167724705419266?t=PlbRdrWc6Y08vnobuyW7AA&s=19
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Bison66 on July 22, 2022, 12:38:02 PM


That's just it. Time is short. After his investigation and evidence gathering, issuing an indictment (if any) and a lengthy trial will take a long time. His time may run out if the GOP takes control again, and this all will be for naught. This has already taken more time than it should have, IMO. :no:


The earliest the Republicans can gain control of the executive branch is January 2025.

SoFlo,

I feel you on this...

Wildman, you are correct about Jan 2025, BUT there's an election before that and a campaign before THAT, and DOJ ("by the book Garland!!!") policy not to "interfere" in an election by announcing an investigation.

So, instead of January 2025, it's really Spring of 2024 - at THE LATEST.

We all know that #3TimeLoser45's strategy is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.  Motion after frivolous motion will be filed by his team.  If he were indicted YESTERDAY, it might not go to trial until 2024!!!!

PLUS,...What will Garland's stance be IF/WHEN #3TimeLoser45 announces a presidential candidacy prior to the November 2022 mid-term elections?

Garland is bringing a wet noodle to a knife fight!!!!

O0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Wildman78 on July 22, 2022, 02:58:27 PM

Wildman, you are correct about Jan 2025, BUT there's an election before that and a campaign before THAT, and DOJ ("by the book Garland!!!") policy not to "interfere" in an election by announcing an investigation.

So, instead of January 2025, it's really Spring of 2024 - at THE LATEST.

We all know that #3TimeLoser45's strategy is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.  Motion after frivolous motion will be filed by his team.  If he were indicted YESTERDAY, it might not go to trial until 2024!!!!

PLUS,...What will Garland's stance be IF/WHEN #3TimeLoser45 announces a presidential candidacy prior to the November 2022 mid-term elections?

Garland is bringing a wet noodle to a knife fight!!!!

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No, Trump will not escape prosecution by announcing his candidacy. Garland will not stay or delay a prosecution because Trump announces his candidacy. Trump is going to be indicted.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 26, 2022, 04:25:45 PM
https://youtu.be/Z040pv6dXWs
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Bison66 on July 26, 2022, 11:34:54 PM
Garland seems to have dropped the other shoe, and redeemed himself.

But I will remain healthily skeptical until I see results.

For now, I am pleased and relieved.

O0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 27, 2022, 08:29:46 AM
https://youtu.be/46PX1S8KWq0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 27, 2022, 08:31:16 AM
The Justice Department plans to prosecute anyone who was “criminally responsible for interfering with the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another,” Attorney General Merrick Garland said Tuesday, speaking more expansively than he has previously about a federal criminal investigation that appears to have moved far beyond the rioters who attacked the Capitol.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/merrick-garland-not-rule-prosecuting-trump-jan-6-rcna40092
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 27, 2022, 08:32:31 AM
Justice Dept. Asking Witnesses About Trump in Its Jan. 6 Investigation

Federal prosecutors sought information about the former president’s role in the efforts to overturn the election as the inquiry accelerates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/trump-jan-6-justice-department.html
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on July 27, 2022, 08:33:16 AM
This is your friendly reminder that Merrick Garland's investigation of Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols and the Unabomber had zero leaks before indictments, 100% convictions and no turnovers on appeal. And now Trump is a “Subject” of Garland's Jan 6 investigation (soon to be “Target). So a little advice to you Trump supporters, I wouldn't spend too much money on those “Trump-2024” posters. But then again, you continue to donate to Trump's pockets so Never-Mind.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: SSUTigerFan on July 27, 2022, 09:28:01 AM
Another Robert Mueller
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Strike79 on July 27, 2022, 09:44:38 AM
Another Robert Mueller
???…….which is to say exactly WHAT, TigetFan?  ;D
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: SSUTigerFan on July 27, 2022, 04:20:47 PM
Inaction.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on August 11, 2022, 10:30:54 PM
We can all start our apology tour here.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/U7bo7ejk1UbcYxn7gB/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7kyrvprikpff4bpm0f6s7qmqn3oop7a1r1rzonoq8&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7evxj4sljzpafh7rceftyk3yhj85kvmrcmec8f1ea&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Golden Kitten on August 11, 2022, 11:07:58 PM
I'll start - I apologize... :blush:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: j1908 on August 12, 2022, 08:48:59 AM
We can all start our apology tour here.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/U7bo7ejk1UbcYxn7gB/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7kyrvprikpff4bpm0f6s7qmqn3oop7a1r1rzonoq8&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)(https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7evxj4sljzpafh7rceftyk3yhj85kvmrcmec8f1ea&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

LOL B.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on August 12, 2022, 10:00:19 AM
I SAID WEEKS AGO THAT WE ALL MAY WANT TO NOT BE TOO QUICK TO PASS JUDGEMENT ON MERRICK GARLAND. 


HE IS PROVING TO BE A PRECISLY "BY THE BOOK" DOJ LEAD.   :nod: :clap: :nod:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: EB on August 12, 2022, 12:27:07 PM
Still holding out hope Trump is gonna get got, huh? If he was, he would have been by now.

Inaction.

I have some of the same feeings.  My opinion is still the same.  To me he is an institutionalist.  In other words he seems to be willing to protect the instition of the White House or Executive Branch though Trump left the White House over 18 months ago.  Then again the January 6 committee may have motivated the DOJ investigation.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: DAW912 on August 12, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
People need understand that investigations are most often done behind the scenes to protect its integrity.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: LULions on August 12, 2022, 01:55:00 PM
 :tiptoe: :tiptoe: :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Bison66 on August 12, 2022, 05:39:31 PM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello 💣. Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on August 12, 2022, 05:50:12 PM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello . Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0

Yep!
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Strike79 on August 12, 2022, 06:14:26 PM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello 💣. Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0

B66……I had my doubts about dude too. But since Monday (8/8), Merrick Garland has shown the WORLD that he is a straightup BOSS!!

F with dude if you want to, and you’ll get F’ed up!!
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: soflorattler on August 13, 2022, 08:54:34 AM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello 💣. Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0


Ditto. Garland moved smoother than STP on Trump and his minions. I guessing that he would have given his colleagues on the Supreme Court fits.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: CIAA-FAN on August 13, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
SEE HIS INTERVIEW THAT WAS ON "MORNING JOE" THIS MORNING ON MSNBC.  HE IS NEITHER A COWARD OR INCOMPETENT.  HE EXPLAINED THE DETAILED REVIEW, ANALYSIS AND INVESTIGATION THAT IS ON-GOING.  WE ALL WANT QUICK RESULTSBUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT THE RESULTS OF HIS ACTIONS WILL ULTIMATELY WITHSTAND ANY ATTACKS FROM THE RIGHT-WING SCOTUS.  TRUST ME ON THIS.




 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Olde Hornet on August 13, 2022, 11:35:35 AM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello 💣. Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0


I agree, this was a brilliant move, I didnt know he had it in him.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Cats4ever on August 13, 2022, 12:20:16 PM
He is  a very smart man who plays his hand close to his chest   It  was said about him he doesn’t reveal what he is doing until he knows he got the goods.  He is all about results not talk.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: Cats4ever on August 13, 2022, 12:24:22 PM
Yeah, I defintiely had SERIOUS doubts if Garland was up for it, but...

DAYUM!!

Espionage Act!!!!!

Thought I'd share this comment from Facebook....

Tamara Lauderdale
Hello 💣. Merrick Garland out here challenging them to f*** around and find out in a quiet reserved grandpa kind a way.

Yep!

O0


I agree, this was a brilliant move, I didnt know he had it in him.
He is a thinker not a talker. He plays the game 50 steps away of everyone else. Never get fooled by a person’s mild manner.
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: iceman4221 on August 13, 2022, 04:24:49 PM
Many try to spin his foot-dragging as being meticulous and methodical ensuring all "I"s are dotted and "T"s are crossed, and periods and exclamation points are in the right place. Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.

SoFloRattler I hope you are right on this one!!!!
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Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on August 13, 2022, 04:35:43 PM
Many try to spin his foot-dragging as being meticulous and methodical ensuring all "I"s are dotted and "T"s are crossed, and periods and exclamation points are in the right place. Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.

SoFloRattler I hope you are right on this one!!!!
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I think people forget his legal landmark accomplishments
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: bluedog on August 14, 2022, 04:34:15 PM
Although I'm sure we all have our own testimony. This may be the ultimate confirmation that God does work in mysterious ways. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220814/b70023e84b66a342a01ff3e8a3ca234a.jpg)
Title: Re: Merrick Garland; Coward or Incompetent?
Post by: iceman4221 on August 14, 2022, 05:25:21 PM
Garland is doing what Jake Gaither use to say "Kill a mosquito with an axe!". Have evidence so overwhelming that it would stand up to any appeal in the courts.

SoFloRattler You Were Right On This One!!!
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