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Title: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 12, 2022, 02:37:55 PM
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Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 12, 2022, 02:50:15 PM
Losing MU, NA, KSU from a travel perspective is a gain for us, they were all Football only schools right? Finding 3 OOC games in the short term might be a scramble, but in the long term I see these three going as good for A&T. We should be able to fill those slots with regional FCS programs and other HBCUs. If we could get an ELON (CAA) and Western Carolina (SoCo) as fixtures on our schedule we would be playing every FCS program in the state. Add to that mix a steady rotation of MEAC programs like SCSU, NSU, and Howard.

That would give us the opportunity to further reduce travel costs, increase our statewide and regional influence, solid chances at BS Championships/playoff appearances, and appealing schedules for fans of HBCU football.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Jay_Thomas on January 12, 2022, 03:09:40 PM
Sort of OFF topic but wow. Monmouth really has a SMALL stadium. Seating capacity 4,000+. 

(http://monmouthhawks.com/images/2018/3/19/Kessler_Stadium.jpg)


(https://monmouthhawks.com/images/2017/11/2/Kessler_story.jpg?width=1000&height=563&mode=crop)


For a one-sided stadium, it actually looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: ‘87 Alum on January 12, 2022, 03:10:54 PM
If all these teams keep leaving these buildings, who gonna live in the blighted community at the end?
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 12, 2022, 03:16:01 PM
There goes another failed Northern experiment for the Big South.  Stony Brook did the exact same thing about a decade ago.  Robert Morris is really on an island by themselves now. 

The MEAC should be funny and send Robert Morris a football only invite to pull them from the Big South. :snicker

Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 12, 2022, 03:55:01 PM
Losing MU, NA, KSU from a travel perspective is a gain for us, they were all Football only schools right? Finding 3 OOC games in the short term might be a scramble, but in the long term I see these three going as good for A&T. We should be able to fill those slots with regional FCS programs and other HBCUs. If we could get an ELON (CAA) and Western Carolina (SoCo) as fixtures on our schedule we would be playing every FCS program in the state. Add to that mix a steady rotation of MEAC programs like SCSU, NSU, and Howard.

That would give us the opportunity to further reduce travel costs, increase our statewide and regional influence, solid chances at BS Championships/playoff appearances, and appealing schedules for fans of HBCU football.
Translation: a weaker conference gives A&T everything they wanted wrapped up in a nice little bow. "MAYBE"

:D
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 12, 2022, 04:13:49 PM
Losing MU, NA, KSU from a travel perspective is a gain for us, they were all Football only schools right? Finding 3 OOC games in the short term might be a scramble, but in the long term I see these three going as good for A&T. We should be able to fill those slots with regional FCS programs and other HBCUs. If we could get an ELON (CAA) and Western Carolina (SoCo) as fixtures on our schedule we would be playing every FCS program in the state. Add to that mix a steady rotation of MEAC programs like SCSU, NSU, and Howard.

That would give us the opportunity to further reduce travel costs, increase our statewide and regional influence, solid chances at BS Championships/playoff appearances, and appealing schedules for fans of HBCU football.
Translation: a weaker conference gives A&T everything they wanted wrapped up in a nice little bow. "MAYBE"

:D

A&T getting everything we wanted...I like the sound of that.  :D
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 12, 2022, 04:16:37 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 12, 2022, 04:18:50 PM
Losing MU, NA, KSU from a travel perspective is a gain for us, they were all Football only schools right? Finding 3 OOC games in the short term might be a scramble, but in the long term I see these three going as good for A&T. We should be able to fill those slots with regional FCS programs and other HBCUs. If we could get an ELON (CAA) and Western Carolina (SoCo) as fixtures on our schedule we would be playing every FCS program in the state. Add to that mix a steady rotation of MEAC programs like SCSU, NSU, and Howard.

That would give us the opportunity to further reduce travel costs, increase our statewide and regional influence, solid chances at BS Championships/playoff appearances, and appealing schedules for fans of HBCU football.


5 Conference Games
1 FBS Game
3 HBCUs
2 Regional FCS

We are potentially looking at 9-10 games every year 5 hours or less away. So dope for the fan base 
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 12, 2022, 04:22:02 PM
If all these teams keep leaving these buildings, who gonna live in the blighted community at the end?

A&T
Hampton
Gardner Webb
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Robert Morris
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 12, 2022, 04:25:25 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 12, 2022, 04:32:57 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.
BINGO!!!(https://media3.giphy.com/media/2UvAUplPi4ESnKa3W0/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd765x4le5ics3ry89cs3ak6fqwmyy523eqr0i5fiyr&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 12, 2022, 05:05:20 PM
If all these teams keep leaving these buildings, who gonna live in the blighted community at the end?

A&T
Hampton
Gardner Webb
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Robert Morris

Objectively, we're the only public school on that list, we have the largest enrollment of the lot, and going to be an R1 institution by 2030. It's an odd fit if you look at it carefully.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 12, 2022, 05:06:21 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

What a crap opinion. GTFOHWTBS, seriously.  :no:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 12, 2022, 05:22:19 PM
lmao....(https://media3.giphy.com/media/8zSrcVK9aE7vy/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7lwtb53e3w3a4y1o2qzvukpjtvbuj0pw5yz4v81f7&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: oleschoolaggie on January 12, 2022, 05:53:20 PM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: CU1994 on January 12, 2022, 06:09:37 PM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: JAG89 on January 12, 2022, 06:21:09 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

So what you are saying in a nutshell is that the neighborhood is no longer exclusive and restrictive. The local government is reallocating tax dollars away from the neighborhood.  Property value is beginning to decline. The economic profile of the neighborhood will probably drop to its lowest level. Maybe one day gentrification will revitalize the neighborhood via some government funded economic opportunity zone, but Monmouth is not sticking around waiting for that to happen.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: ALMIGHTY on January 12, 2022, 06:52:07 PM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...
:nod:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: ALMIGHTY on January 12, 2022, 06:54:25 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.
The CAA is a better fit for Monmouth all the way around.  They would be fools to turn down the offer to stay in the BSC.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: WileECoyote06 on January 12, 2022, 07:49:31 PM
Poor HAmpton. They been trying for the CAA for two decades and this fly by night nobody getting in before them.  🤔
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: WileECoyote06 on January 12, 2022, 07:51:02 PM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

Bwah ha haw haw
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: JBROB on January 12, 2022, 08:36:13 PM
Now we might have some ejections at the A&T/Hampton game tonight.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Decks on January 12, 2022, 10:13:00 PM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: CU1994 on January 12, 2022, 10:33:47 PM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

I could see Elon returning because they have a much better chance at winning the conference. I wouldn’t say this is good though. All the top teams have left,
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 12, 2022, 11:02:55 PM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

I could see Elon returning because they have a much better chance at winning the conference. I wouldn’t say this is good though. All the top teams have left,
It's good because that's what A&T wants. They think that they're going to get the same respect the old heavy weights of the original bs got from the playoff committee.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 12:52:45 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T 
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 01:12:34 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T
Elon isn't looking for an easy out
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: KnuckDogg on January 13, 2022, 08:35:50 AM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,

Does A&T even care what conference Monmouth play in  athletically? :shrug:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 08:39:38 AM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

So what you are saying in a nutshell is that the neighborhood is no longer exclusive and restrictive. The local government is reallocating tax dollars away from the neighborhood.  Property value is beginning to decline. The economic profile of neighborhood will probably drop to its lowest level. Maybe one day gentrification will revitalize the neighborhood via some government funded economic opportunity zone, but Monmouth is not sticking around waiting for that to happen.

Again you hit the nail on the head. I should have gone to Southern for my education.  :lol:
But really, black people that moves into exclusive white plantations can never see that they don't fit. They pretend that the world has changed and that the rest of black people is the problem when it comes to racism. Those blacks "always" return, for visits, to the hood for some cultural relief, then return home to their plantations. Look how many Aggies still come to this forum for some culture.  :shrug: Whites generally have a limit of how many blacks are allowed in the back of their minds before they move. Monmouth has reached their limit. Just like we pretend that our degrees mean more when white people are involved, whites feel their degrees are worth less when we are involved. In this era of TRUMP, I can't see why we can't see this.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 08:46:31 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T
Elon isn't looking for an easy out

They are trying to save money , just like everyone else.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: ‘87 Alum on January 13, 2022, 08:47:41 AM
There is so much to unpack & debunk in some of these posts but I can’t y’all….I got other things to do today….

Carry on….
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 08:48:32 AM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,

Does A&T even care what Monmouth play athletically? :shrug:

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 09:14:34 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T
Elon isn't looking for an easy out

They are trying to save money , just like everyone else.
Elon is doing just fine. The only struggling going on is in your imagination.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 13, 2022, 09:19:09 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

I could see Elon returning because they have a much better chance at winning the conference. I wouldn’t say this is good though. All the top teams have left,

Honestly, Travel expenses trump the perceived ease of winning a conference in one specific sponsored sport.

Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 13, 2022, 09:20:21 AM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,

Does A&T even care what Monmouth play athletically? :shrug:

Quite a few Aggies didn't even know the school existed until this Fall.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 13, 2022, 09:24:07 AM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

So what you are saying in a nutshell is that the neighborhood is no longer exclusive and restrictive. The local government is reallocating tax dollars away from the neighborhood.  Property value is beginning to decline. The economic profile of neighborhood will probably drop to its lowest level. Maybe one day gentrification will revitalize the neighborhood via some government funded economic opportunity zone, but Monmouth is not sticking around waiting for that to happen.

Again you hit the nail on the head. I should have gone to Southern for my education.  :lol:
But really, black people that moves into exclusive white plantations can never see that they don't fit. They pretend that the world has changed and that the rest of black people is the problem when it comes to racism. Those blacks "always" return, for visits, to the hood for some cultural relief, then return home to their plantations. Look how many Aggies still come to this forum for some culture.  :shrug: Whites generally have a limit of how many blacks are allowed in the back of their minds before they move. Monmouth has reached their limit. Just like we pretend that our degrees mean more when white people are involved, whites feel their degrees are worth less when we are involved. In this era of TRUMP, I can't see why we can't see this.

Your logic doesn't make one lick of sense ESPECIALLY when these same schools who you're saying don't like the the number of "Blacks" in their athletic conference admit Black Students, recruit Black kids to play on their teams, Hire Black Professors, Instructors, and Admins, and even have Black Head Coaches in Football and Men's Basketball, AND may even have Black Chancellors/Presidents and Blacks on the Board of Trustees.

So, once again, what in the heck are you talking about man!? It's about travel expenses, NOT race!

But whatever. Let me not get facts get in the way of the circle jerk you're having with a few other posters here on this thread.

Last but not least, HBCUs only enroll 10% of the total Black Student population. Any guesses where the other 90% are attending college?   :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 13, 2022, 09:28:09 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 09:30:54 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T
Elon isn't looking for an easy out

They are trying to save money , just like everyone else.
Elon is doing just fine. The only struggling going on is in your imagination.

There is a huge difference in saving money to reinvest and upgrade what you have and struggling.

No one said Elon was struggling. They are however looking at their options. Just like everyone else

https://wmsportsblog.com/2021/10/28/report-jmu-leaving-the-caa-wm-implications/
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 09:32:06 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back

From what i read RM has no where to go. They left the NEC for the Horizon League in all other sports and the NEC wouldn't let them stay for football.

I would think the Patriot is an option
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: JAG89 on January 13, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
Its funny how we can spin things. We act like we have very little knowledge of America's history. One too many blacks moved into the neighborhood. One was enough but for the Big South to have invited the blackest school in America (NCA&T) was the last straw for Monmouth. So please, stop trying to spin this. They are running from ya'll. This has been the story in America from the start. Maybe you should just buy yourself a mirror.

So what you are saying in a nutshell is that the neighborhood is no longer exclusive and restrictive. The local government is reallocating tax dollars away from the neighborhood.  Property value is beginning to decline. The economic profile of neighborhood will probably drop to its lowest level. Maybe one day gentrification will revitalize the neighborhood via some government funded economic opportunity zone, but Monmouth is not sticking around waiting for that to happen.

Again you hit the nail on the head. I should have gone to Southern for my education.  :lol:
But really, black people that moves into exclusive white plantations can never see that they don't fit. They pretend that the world has changed and that the rest of black people is the problem when it comes to racism. Those blacks "always" return, for visits, to the hood for some cultural relief, then return home to their plantations. Look how many Aggies still come to this forum for some culture.  :shrug: Whites generally have a limit of how many blacks are allowed in the back of their minds before they move. Monmouth has reached their limit. Just like we pretend that our degrees mean more when white people are involved, whites feel their degrees are worth less when we are involved. In this era of TRUMP, I can't see why we can't see this.

Like Archie Bunker used to say, "there goes the neighborhood."  :lmao:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 09:42:31 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back
Elon ain't thinking about y'all.  They are doing just fine where they are. They left the real BS and moved up in status in 2003 and and did the same after dominating the SoCon. Why in the world would they want to move back and lower their standards?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/5e3bef305ad7136b138001ac6b36f221.jpg)
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 09:47:09 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

Heard an opening might be popping up in the Southern Conference. UT Chattanooga is having dialogue with the A Sun per sources.

Elon in all sports would be great for A&T
Elon isn't looking for an easy out

They are trying to save money , just like everyone else.
Elon is doing just fine. The only struggling going on is in your imagination.

There is a huge difference in saving money to reinvest and upgrade what you have and struggling.

No one said Elon was struggling. They are however looking at their options. Just like everyone else

https://wmsportsblog.com/2021/10/28/report-jmu-leaving-the-caa-wm-implications/
All that article proves is that I'm right about Elon moving down in status being in your imagination.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 13, 2022, 09:47:37 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back

From what i read RM has no where to go. They left the NEC for the Horizon League in all other sports and the NEC wouldn't let them stay for football.

I would think the Patriot is an option

That may be so, my point is Elon back to the BSC would be a last resort honestly.

RMU might stuck for now but it'll be interesting to see what things look like for them after the realignment dust settles. They don't have enough money as an institution for the Patriot League.

Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 13, 2022, 09:47:53 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back
Elon ain't thinking about y'all.  They are doing just fine where they are. They left the real BS and moved up in status in 2003 and and did the same after dominating the SoCon. Why in the world would they want to move back and lower their standards?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/5e3bef305ad7136b138001ac6b36f221.jpg)

Exactly.  Elon is not going back to the Big South.

What some people don't realize is that Elon has a lot of Northern students and likes to pretend to be some elite private college.  Being in the CAA and playing the Northern schools helps them to continue that front in the eyes of those Northern parents sending their kids down to Elon for school. 

Elon being in the CAA is more then just a sports thing.  They would rather be viewed as a peer of the CAA schools then the Big South schools.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 09:50:19 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back
Elon ain't thinking about y'all.  They are doing just fine where they are. They left the real BS and moved up in status in 2003 and and did the same after dominating the SoCon. Why in the world would they want to move back and lower their standards?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220113/5e3bef305ad7136b138001ac6b36f221.jpg)

Exactly.  Elon is not going back to the Big South.

What some people don't realize is that Elon has a lot of Northern students and likes to pretend to be some elite private college.  Being in the CAA and playing the Northern schools helps them to continue that front in the eyes of those Northern parents sending their kids down to Elon for school. 

Elon being in the CAA is more then just a sports thing.  They would rather be viewed as a peer of the CAA schools then the Big South schools.
Exactly! What is their percentage of students in the CAA territory? 36-40%?


Data recently released by the NCAA places Elon University again at the top of the Colonial Athletic Association when it comes to student-athletes receiving their diplomas.
The NCAA recently announced the 2019-20 Graduation Success Rate (GSR) and Federal Graduation Rate data for Division I institutions as part of the annual NCAA Division I Academic Performance Program. Elon’s 2019-20 data features an overall single-year GSR of 97 percent, up one percentage point from the year before. Nine Phoenix programs earned a perfect 100 percent score. Those programs include:
https://www.elon.edu/u/news/2020/11/17/elon-athletics-leads-caa-in-ncaa-graduation-success-rate-2/
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 13, 2022, 09:50:54 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.   
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: CU1994 on January 13, 2022, 09:54:18 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back

From what i read RM has no where to go. They left the NEC for the Horizon League in all other sports and the NEC wouldn't let them stay for football.

I would think the Patriot is an option

The Patriot is a great fit for Robert Morris athletically and geographically. The problem may be that the Patriot doesn't believe Robert Morris is a good fit academically. I think they are screwed if they can't find a northern conference to accept them.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 13, 2022, 09:55:28 AM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,

Does A&T even care what Monmouth play athletically? :shrug:

Nah, we like our current position...it's good to have options. The Aggies are sitting back and watching the dust settle.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 13, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 10:00:23 AM
i look at it this way.  if the bsc had not admitted two hbcu's to their conference, where would bsc football be now?  answer?  basically on the verge of "non-existence".

hence, that's why they admitted two hbcu's, simply for the mere "survival" of their conference.  nothing more, nothing less...

This was the most truthful post on this thread,

Does A&T even care what Monmouth play athletically? :shrug:

Nah, we don't I like our current position...it's good to have options. The Aggies are sitting back and watching the dust settle.
Now ain't that a blip.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 13, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Professor on January 13, 2022, 10:09:31 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back

From what i read RM has no where to go. They left the NEC for the Horizon League in all other sports and the NEC wouldn't let them stay for football.

I would think the Patriot is an option

The Patriot is a great fit for Robert Morris athletically and geographically. The problem may be that the Patriot doesn't believe Robert Morris is a good fit academically. I think they are screwed if they can't find a northern conference to accept them.

That's it right. They left the NEC under bad terms , the Patriot , the CAA and the Ivy are all the northern conferences or schools with Northern teams. Those are basically their options right
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on January 13, 2022, 10:12:51 AM
If Elon leaves I seriously doubt they're coming back to the BSC. SoCon makes more sense, but this is only contingent upon what happens in the CAA. They're a bit disgruntled but more stable than some of their FCS counterparts. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Robert Morris now that they're on an island in the north.

Realignment has shown that travel is important to some but not all.

The SoCon has said it has no plans to expand , however one of their members is flirting with the ASUN. I think if they leave , Elon might go back

From what i read RM has no where to go. They left the NEC for the Horizon League in all other sports and the NEC wouldn't let them stay for football.

I would think the Patriot is an option

They may say they have no plans to expand...but if Elon and C of C came knocking they would take both.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 13, 2022, 10:14:43 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.

Campbell has visions of something though.  There was a reason they started with non-scholly football and then went to scholarship football.  If the SOCON or CAA came calling for Campbell you have to know they would leave in a heartbeat.

From the CAA perspective it makes sense (especially for all sports).  Campbell would be an easy trip for the W&M, UNCW, Elon, and College of Charleston.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 10:31:55 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.

Campbell has visions of something though.  There was a reason they started with non-scholly football and then went to scholarship football.  If the SOCON or CAA came calling for Campbell you have to know they would leave in a heartbeat.

From the CAA perspective it makes sense (especially for all sports).  Campbell would be an easy trip for the W&M, UNCW, Elon, and College of Charleston.
Bruh if Campbell leaves that's sending one hell of a message. Lol...
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 13, 2022, 10:36:48 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.

Campbell has visions of something though.  There was a reason they started with non-scholly football and then went to scholarship football.  If the SOCON or CAA came calling for Campbell you have to know they would leave in a heartbeat.

From the CAA perspective it makes sense (especially for all sports).  Campbell would be an easy trip for the W&M, UNCW, Elon, and College of Charleston.
Bruh if Campbell leaves that's sending one hell of a message. Lol...

It would be. Lol

I hope people realize Campbell ain't loyal.  They already left the Big South once before.  They came back because they wanted to start up football (thinking the conference would be stable with Coastal and Liberty).  At this point you got to know Campbell is looking for a way out.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: CU1994 on January 13, 2022, 10:41:10 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.

Campbell has visions of something though.  There was a reason they started with non-scholly football and then went to scholarship football.  If the SOCON or CAA came calling for Campbell you have to know they would leave in a heartbeat.

From the CAA perspective it makes sense (especially for all sports).  Campbell would be an easy trip for the W&M, UNCW, Elon, and College of Charleston.

If the CAA invites Campbell, they are truly desperate. :shrug:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: WileECoyote06 on January 13, 2022, 10:45:54 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.

I agree, and I'm suprised this hasn't been mentioned.  The CAA football conference is a mess geographically.  But Campbell would be an good choice for their all-sports conference.  If Elon leaves, it may begin a domino effect for the southern non-football members. 

Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Warpaint on January 13, 2022, 11:08:07 AM
Monmouth leaving is a good move for all. Now all eyes on Elon. Rumors are they are considering leaving the CAA for a return back to the Southern Conference or Big South. They've been murmuring about travel expenses and badly want A&T back on the schedule. Don't be shocked if they head back to the BSC.

It all depends on how Elon decides to position itself. They have been very strategic since moving up from DII...Big South, Southern Conference, and then the CAA. I always found the move to the CAA a bit off from a regional perspective, but I do know they have a large alumni and student population from north east states and conference affiliation has gotten really wacky the past 10 years. That said the cost of running their teams that far north is very, very expensive. Having regional games with Big South or SoCon members as conference foes would be better for the bottom line. If the CAA continues their "top heavy" movement to replace school the have moved on to FBS the southern most school may weigh their options.

This is the exact reason why I believe Campbell might be getting an invite for full membership to the CAA in the near future.


Possible, but I doubt it...I think conference shifting, especially at this level is starting to "correct" itself. FCS schools don't have the money to put that much pressure on their programs and continue to grow. Those that can have already moved up to the FBS.

Campbell has visions of something though.  There was a reason they started with non-scholly football and then went to scholarship football.  If the SOCON or CAA came calling for Campbell you have to know they would leave in a heartbeat.

From the CAA perspective it makes sense (especially for all sports).  Campbell would be an easy trip for the W&M, UNCW, Elon, and College of Charleston.

If the CAA invites Campbell, they are truly desperate. :shrug:

They've been desperate in the past, that's why Stony Brook and Albany got invites.  About a decade ago some of the Northern Associate Football members were about to leave so the CAA threw them a bone and added the two additional northern schools.  They were even desperate enough at one point to bring Georgia State into the conference.

So if the Southern schools threatened to leave it wouldn't surprise me if they grabbed a school in the South.  While Worford and Furman would be better fits, I doubt they would leave the Socon.  So Campbell is probably the next prime target.  High Point could be another one on the radar.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 12:06:50 PM
Again, there are plenty of possibilities. However, the only schools that will join the big south are other HBCUs. Conference affiliations has always been about more than sports. Schools are wanting to be apart of schools with the same goals, ambitions and that look, smell and act like them. The Big South accepting Hampton and a&t was out of desperation to stay active. They needed them to stay afloat. The question for us is, what happens to Hampton and A&T when the Big South folds. So unless other conferences get desperate enough to accept a black college, they will not be inviting either of those two HBCUs in. Will, or should the MEAC accept them back should be our only concern. Honestly, do we really care what the options are for those other schools?
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: KnuckDogg on January 13, 2022, 12:21:47 PM
Again, there are plenty of possibilities. However, the only schools that will join the big south are other HBCUs. Conference affiliations has always been about more than sports. Schools are wanting to be apart of schools with the same goals, ambitions and that look, smell and act like them. The Big South accepting Hampton and a&t was out of desperation to stay active. They needed them to stay afloat. The question for us is, what happens to Hampton and A&T when the Big South folds. So unless other conferences get desperate enough to accept a black college, they will not be inviting either of those two HBCUs in. Will, or should the MEAC accept them back should be our only concern. Honestly, do we really care what the options are for those other schools?

What makes you think A&T and HIU would WANT to come back to the MEAC? Remember, our MEAC football champ has to play the SWAC champ in the CB, they will, in all likelihood, not be able to participate in the FCS playoffs, unless a FAMU type situation pops up.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: CU1994 on January 13, 2022, 12:56:06 PM
I'm not sure about A&T but Hampton ain't going to nobody's FCS playoffs.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 03:24:05 PM
Again, there are plenty of possibilities. However, the only schools that will join the big south are other HBCUs. Conference affiliations has always been about more than sports. Schools are wanting to be apart of schools with the same goals, ambitions and that look, smell and act like them. The Big South accepting Hampton and a&t was out of desperation to stay active. They needed them to stay afloat. The question for us is, what happens to Hampton and A&T when the Big South folds. So unless other conferences get desperate enough to accept a black college, they will not be inviting either of those two HBCUs in. Will, or should the MEAC accept them back should be our only concern. Honestly, do we really care what the options are for those other schools?

What makes you think A&T and HIU would WANT to come back to the MEAC? Remember, our MEAC football champ has to play the SWAC champ in the CB, they will, in all likelihood, not be able to participate in the FCS playoffs, unless a FAMU type situation pops up.
Oh you're coming back. I haven't been wrong about anything I've predicted yet.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
Again, there are plenty of possibilities. However, the only schools that will join the big south are other HBCUs. Conference affiliations has always been about more than sports. Schools are wanting to be apart of schools with the same goals, ambitions and that look, smell and act like them. The Big South accepting Hampton and a&t was out of desperation to stay active. They needed them to stay afloat. The question for us is, what happens to Hampton and A&T when the Big South folds. So unless other conferences get desperate enough to accept a black college, they will not be inviting either of those two HBCUs in. Will, or should the MEAC accept them back should be our only concern. Honestly, do we really care what the options are for those other schools?

What makes you think A&T and HIU would WANT to come back to the MEAC? Remember, our MEAC football champ has to play the SWAC champ in the CB, they will, in all likelihood, not be able to participate in the FCS playoffs, unless a FAMU type situation pops up.

The FAMU thang will be a regular event form this point forward. The SWAC is coming back to their past. Besides, where else can A&T and HIU go when the Big South folds?
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 03:35:41 PM
Again, there are plenty of possibilities. However, the only schools that will join the big south are other HBCUs. Conference affiliations has always been about more than sports. Schools are wanting to be apart of schools with the same goals, ambitions and that look, smell and act like them. The Big South accepting Hampton and a&t was out of desperation to stay active. They needed them to stay afloat. The question for us is, what happens to Hampton and A&T when the Big South folds. So unless other conferences get desperate enough to accept a black college, they will not be inviting either of those two HBCUs in. Will, or should the MEAC accept them back should be our only concern. Honestly, do we really care what the options are for those other schools?

What makes you think A&T and HIU would WANT to come back to the MEAC? Remember, our MEAC football champ has to play the SWAC champ in the CB, they will, in all likelihood, not be able to participate in the FCS playoffs, unless a FAMU type situation pops up.
Oh you're coming back. I haven't been wrong about anything I've predicted yet.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
Isn't it fascinating how the meac was collapsing when three  schools left. But some how three schools leaving the Lil South is a great thing for A&T?  Negroes...l swear.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7tx4p3lamvun6nd4m5a7wy0toytwrmf4lnlxzduk3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 03:47:47 PM
Isn't it fascinating how the meac was collapsing when three  schools left. But some how three schools leaving the Lil South is a great thing for A&T?  Negroes...l swear.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7tx4p3lamvun6nd4m5a7wy0toytwrmf4lnlxzduk3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
:o
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Que82 on January 13, 2022, 04:08:02 PM
Reminds me of the early 70's when kids in my neighborhood got bussed 11 miles to integrate the new all-white school.  All the financially able whites sent their kids to private school and what was left was the racist white trash. I'm not saying this is the case for the BSC but just because the administration of the BSC invited NCAT and Hampton to the conference does not mean the alumni from the individual schools want them there.  You can gauge it by the number of fans that come to your house for events. By the way, Hampton uses Grey Poupon and Ayantee eats Food Lion brand mustard. :lol:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 13, 2022, 04:27:36 PM
Reminds me of the early 70's when kids in my neighborhood got bussed 11 miles to integrate the new all-white school.  All the financially able whites sent their kids to private school and what was left was the racist white trash. I'm not saying this is the case for the BSC but just because the administration of the BSC invited NCAT and Hampton to the conference does not mean the alumni from the individual schools want them there.  You can gauge it by the number of fans that come to your house for events. By the way, Hampton uses Grey Poupon and Ayantee eats Food Lion brand mustard. :lol:

Now that is an analogy if I ever read one. That s**t is true and funny as heck.  :lol:

When all those big butt cheerleaders show up on their campuses they will lose their mind. Now when the band turns their horns form the croud those white people are going to faint.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 13, 2022, 05:48:50 PM
Isn't it fascinating how the meac was collapsing when three  schools left. But some how three schools leaving the Lil South is a great thing for A&T?  Negroes...l swear.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/13l7w7N4Vr1dw4/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7tx4p3lamvun6nd4m5a7wy0toytwrmf4lnlxzduk3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

I was trying not to mention that but since you did…
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bigriq on January 13, 2022, 05:50:24 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: JAG89 on January 13, 2022, 05:59:45 PM
Didn't racist White folks leave the Democratic Party for the Republican Party due to the Democratic Party's inclusion of Black folks?

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 06:14:33 PM
Didn't racist White folks leave the Democratic Party for the Republican Party due to the Democratic Party's inclusion of Black folks?

 :lmao:
*snicker*
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 13, 2022, 06:31:58 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 06:39:59 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
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Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: westcoastaggie on January 13, 2022, 08:10:19 PM
Didn't racist White folks leave the Democratic Party for the Republican Party due to the Democratic Party's inclusion of Black folks?

 :lmao:

Apples and oranges man. Apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 13, 2022, 08:12:50 PM
More like Eggs and Sausage.  Lol....
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: KnuckDogg on January 13, 2022, 09:37:42 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?

Well, if that's the case, then I would think that Hampton and A&T will milk the BSC for all that they are worth, until the conference folds, or they apply to the Southern Conference, or the CAA. :shrug:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 13, 2022, 09:46:56 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?

Well, if that's the case, then I would think that Hampton and A&T will milk the BSC for all that they are worth, until the conference folds, or they apply to the Southern Conference, or the CAA. :shrug:

The CAA goes from South Carolina to Maine. That’s going to blow a hole in their travel budget. The SoCon goes from VA to Alabama, Florida, Tennessee. So if travel is a concern the CAA & SoCon is out.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: JAG89 on January 13, 2022, 10:11:14 PM
Didn't racist White folks leave the Democratic Party for the Republican Party due to the Democratic Party's inclusion of Black folks?

 :lmao:

Apples and oranges man. Apples and oranges.

A tiger never changes its stripes no matter how hard it tries.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bigriq on January 14, 2022, 07:22:23 AM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
Always heard that the CAA was goal.  Can always go back to the MEAC especially if the new commish is on the ball.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: EagleWing on January 14, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
Always heard that the CAA was goal.  Can always go back to the MEAC especially if the new commish is on the ball.

Hampton to the CAA has been going around for probably 10 years so that sounds about right. If that does happen seeing as that the CAA goes from South Carolina to Maine in some sports would you say that blows a hole in the travel argument?
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bigriq on January 14, 2022, 10:37:18 AM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
Always heard that the CAA was goal.  Can always go back to the MEAC especially if the new commish is on the ball.

Hampton to the CAA has been going around for probably 10 years so that sounds about right. If that does happen seeing as that the CAA goes from South Carolina to Maine in some sports would you say that blows a hole in the travel argument?
Folks would sacrifice travel for money and "prestige".
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: B-more Eagle on January 14, 2022, 11:14:54 AM
Would The Southern Conference, or the CAA want any of the schools in the BS? The BS schools had two options joint the MEAC or take schools from the MEAC. 
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: bluedog on January 14, 2022, 12:23:11 PM
Would be crazy to think that the two HBCU admits isn't scaring some folks away.  BUT, the BS has always been a transient conference.

Now we can be really creative with our schedule AND make the playoffs.

If it’s understood that the BS is a transient conference what is Hampton‘a end goal? Can’t be thinking long term with a conference that historically has been a revolving door right?
Always heard that the CAA was goal.  Can always go back to the MEAC especially if the new commish is on the ball.

Hampton to the CAA has been going around for probably 10 years so that sounds about right. If that does happen seeing as that the CAA goes from South Carolina to Maine in some sports would you say that blows a hole in the travel argument?
Folks would sacrifice travel for money and "prestige".
But that never was the narrative.  It has always been the auto-bid or travel.  Depending on how full the moon was.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Ram55 on January 14, 2022, 12:36:37 PM
Please, please hear me. Or do I have to draw ya'll a picture. The only reason the BS invited our two schools is because they needed saving and got desperately enough to invite "two" HBCUs. Why do you think it took more than 100 years for this to happen. Do you really think America has changed enough to consider us their equals... especially in education institution's. Really? Folks's, America don't think we are their equals. Both A&T and Hampton had better start practicing their "I'm sorry for leaving" speeches' and hope that it works. Just because they married the white girl does not mean that the white girls family and friends approve. THEY DIDN'T.
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: Que82 on January 14, 2022, 11:34:41 PM
Hampton now that A&T has come to the BSC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOCOm9Z0YE

 :lol:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: KnuckDogg on January 14, 2022, 11:48:53 PM
Please, please hear me. Or do I have to draw ya'll a picture. The only reason the BS invited our two schools is because they needed saving and got desperately enough to invite "two" HBCUs. Why do you think it took more than 100 years for this to happen. Do you really think America has changed enough to consider us their equals... especially in education institution's. Really? Folks's, America don't think we are their equals. Both A&T and Hampton had better start practicing their "I'm sorry for leaving" speeches' and hope that it works. Just because they married the white girl does not mean that the white girls family and friends approve. THEY DIDN'T.

Well I guess the CAA wants Hampton to marry their white girl!  :o :popcorn:
Title: Re: Monmouth has left the building
Post by: BisonBlu on January 15, 2022, 04:46:14 AM
Please, please hear me. Or do I have to draw ya'll a picture. The only reason the BS invited our two schools is because they needed saving and got desperately enough to invite "two" HBCUs. Why do you think it took more than 100 years for this to happen. Do you really think America has changed enough to consider us their equals... especially in education institution's. Really? Folks's, America don't think we are their equals. Both A&T and Hampton had better start practicing their "I'm sorry for leaving" speeches' and hope that it works. Just because they married the white girl does not mean that the white girls family and friends approve. THEY DIDN'T.

Well I guess the CAA wants Hampton to marry their white girl!  :o :popcorn:

The writing has been on the wall for a minute. The Five MEAC schools with the largest enrollments all explored options because the MEAC could not provide the additional revenue necessary to advance its brand and become competitive outside the conference. FAMU, Hampton and NCAT did what they had to do.  Hampton is one of three private D1 HBCU's the CAA makes sense because they want to be good in athletics and need the basketball revenue to make it all happen.