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Title: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: klg14 on June 15, 2021, 01:02:54 PM
Two Division II HBCUs from the SIAC will face off in a matchup against each other at the home of Ohio State football.
https://hbcugameday.com/2021/06/15/ohio-states-stadium-to-host-hbcu-football-classic/
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: MilesBear1 on June 15, 2021, 01:31:18 PM
Interesting. :nod:
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 15, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
What makes this a classic? Playing in the massive Ohio State University stadium a week before Grambling and Tennessee State play in the Black College Hall of Fame of Game in the 23,000 seat Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium a week later? I am not seeing this.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: csugrad on June 15, 2021, 05:21:03 PM
It’s a classic because that’s what the organizers say it is. You can certainly have two different classic games in the state of Ohio. Having a game in Canton does not preclude having a game in Columbus and vice versa. If it weren’t for COVID-19 we would have played in the Hall of Fame Classic in Canton last year. Are you an alum of Central State or Kentucky State? Do you live in Ohio or in close proximity to the Columbus area? I’m an alumnus of Central State so I can tell you that there is excitement about the game. We’ll see how well attended it will be.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 15, 2021, 06:12:54 PM
^^
I’m hoping they advertise in the major & secondary markets like Cbus, Cleveland, Dayton, Cincy, Lexington, Louisville, Frankfort, Indy, Detroit, Pittsburgh. I’d also have an HBCU Fest to accompany the classic, similar to the Indy Black Expo and the CCC.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 15, 2021, 06:36:10 PM
I wish you well.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 15, 2021, 06:51:38 PM
Is Ohio State allowing this classic as rent free??? I'm really not with schools using another school's ON-CAMPUS stadium to play their games, unless a school's facilities are unavailable, such as in the case of Tulane after Katrina.  I think Ohio State is doing this as a means to scout HBCU talent for the transfer portal.  Eventually they will open their facilities to FCS HBCUs. I'm very skeptic about these 'WE ARE THE WORLD MOMENTS'.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: j1908 on June 15, 2021, 09:27:26 PM
I'm very skeptic about these 'WE ARE THE WORLD MOMENTS'.

Yeah, I agree.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Que82 on June 15, 2021, 09:56:56 PM
ncsiacfan, What makes the "Tuskegee Morehouse Classic" in Birmingham a Classic???? :shrug:


I doubt if Ohio State is charging any money to use the stadium and if they are that would come from the promoters and not the schools. Considering CSU stadium is listed as 2700 and KSU is 6K and you expect 22K using Ohio State Stadium makes sense. Especially during COVID.

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Did you actually just accused The Ohio State University, contenders in several FBS Playoffs and this year's championship game, of scouting CSU and KY Jelly State for players????

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Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: csugrad on June 15, 2021, 10:57:29 PM
Ohio State isn’t the slightest bit interested in any talent from Central State or Kentucky State. We don’t have one player on our team that could play for them and I’m sure that Kentucky State doesn’t either. That had to be the most ridiculous comment that I’ve ever seen on these boards and that’s saying something. Lol

It’s obvious that many of you are making comments about things you have no knowledge of. First of all this classic isn’t new. It started in 1992 and ran until 1996 in Columbus. It was called the Classic for Columbus. Then it became the Ohio Classic. From that point it took place on a rotating basis between Cincinnati and Cleveland. A football game was added for three years beginning in 2003. That year it was Hampton vs Tuskegee. In 2004 it was Grambling vs Bethune-Cookman and finally in 2005 the matchup was Morgan State vs Savannah State. The classic was cancelled in 2006. Now it’s returning with the original Classic for Columbus name.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 15, 2021, 11:30:16 PM
I believe it was called the Ohio Classic and it was played in Cincinnati, OH and not Columbus, OH. It was cancelled due to its increase cost with no additional sponsorship. Proctor and Gamble which is headquartered in Cininnati, OH was one of the sponsors. Ohio State and Nebraska helped in ending the classic by offering two FCS HBCUs more money to play them.  I'm sure there are a few young men at the DII level who could quite possibly secure a spot at a Power 5 school.  I know there are a few at the FCS level.  I do believe a young man from Jackson State just transferred to a Power 5 school through the transfer portal and it wasn't long ago that DII Kentucky State defeated Jackson State in football.  Schools playing at some other school's on-campus stadium just doesn't sound right with me, but some of us see it as a leg up.  Why not play the game at its original neutral site in Cincinnati, OH?  IMO, I don't think it would be anymore successful in Columbus, OH than it was in Cincinnati, OH.  Plus, the kids at these schools would gain the experience of playing in a NFL stadium instead of some upgraded COLLEGE stadium.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Classic
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 15, 2021, 11:44:36 PM
And as for your ridiculous comment, the article below has to be one of the most ridiculous things in sports to you or maybe you need to UPDATE yourself in sports news.

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2021/06/123030/ohio-state-offers-jackson-state-graduate-transfer-wide-receiver-daylen-baldwin
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: csugrad on June 16, 2021, 12:04:26 AM
There’s a huge difference in the talent at Jackson St and the talent at Central State. I follow my alma mater closely. We lack talent across the board even for a D2 program. We currently only fund 13 out of a possible 36 scholarships so trust me when I tell you that Ohio State doesn’t give a damn about our athletes. I’m not sure why they were mentioned in the first place since the classic game has nothing to do with them. We play in their stadium. That’s it. There’s no other connection to them or their program.

Also, let’s see what that guy does at Ohio St. I won’t be surprised if he’s back in the portal soon because he’s not going to see the field this year based on all of that talent in their receiver room.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 16, 2021, 12:13:29 AM
I stand corrected.  The classic was started in Columbus, OH as the Columbus Classic, but HBCU football wasn't added until they started rotating the game between Cincinnati and Cleveland, two cities with NFL stadiums.  IMO, playing the game in Ohio State's stadium just doesn't seem right to me.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 16, 2021, 12:23:27 AM
You do realize that there have been individuals from DII and DIII programs to make a NFL roster.  When I lived in Virginia, I met a fraternity brother from Tuskegee who played for Washington football team, formerly known as the Redskins. I hope the young men on Central State football team don't see themselves as lesser players when it comes to those playing at Power 5 schools.  They should never give up hope and determination to be just as good as or better than others.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: csugrad on June 16, 2021, 12:30:01 AM
I stand corrected.  The classic was started in Columbus, OH as the Columbus Classic, but HBCU football wasn't added until they started rotating the game between Cincinnati and Cleveland, two cities with NFL stadiums.  IMO, playing the game in Ohio State's stadium just doesn't seem right to me.

Yes, I referenced that in my earlier post. I attended the Classic in the early years before it moved. That was long before the HBCU games were added. As for the stadium the most iconic stadium in the state of Ohio is The Horseshoe. Even more so than the Dawg Pound in Cleveland. Cincy’s stadium doesn’t seem to be that highly thought of to be honest with you. A lot of the key stakeholders and politicians that helped get this back on its feet wanted the game in Columbus. I think that our football players would rather play there than in the Bengals stadium. I’m not sure if Kentucky State players would feel that way unless they were from Ohio or unless they were big fans of Ohio St. As for the alumni and the students at CSU, I think most are excited about going to play in Columbus. I hope it’s successful although this year may not be the best gauge given that we’re coming out of the pandemic. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: csugrad on June 16, 2021, 12:38:55 AM
You do realize that there have been individuals from DII and DIII programs to make a NFL roster.  When I lived in Virginia, I met a fraternity brother from Tuskegee who played for Washington football team, formerly known as the Redskins. I hope the young men on Central State football team don't see themselves as lesser players when it comes to those playing at Power 5 schools.  They should never give up hope and determination to be just as good as or better than others.

I know this is true. When I was at CSU we were in the NAIA and we sent several players to the NFL including many that I went to school with. My point is that our talent level isn’t very high right now. I’m just being honest. There’s a reason that our program hasn’t been consistently successful since we returned to play in 2005.

I think that the landscape is changing a bit though at least for drafted players. Only 3 D2 players were chosen in the most recent draft. Only 5 were drafted from the FCS. Some of the undrafted players will still play in the league but it looks like it’s getting more difficult to make it from any level other than the FBS. We’ll see if that trend continues in the next few years.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 16, 2021, 01:27:31 AM
The Morehouse-Tuskegee Classic (or Tuskegee-Morehouse Classic) being played in Birmingham is a continuation of what is the longest playing HBCU Classic which began as the Columbus Classic played in Columbus, Georgia until 2019. With a listed game day attendance of over 30,000, I questioned why it was being moved.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JBROB on June 16, 2021, 03:40:39 AM
It's good public relations for Ohio State. They are seen as supporting the Black community in Ohio.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 16, 2021, 08:27:14 AM
JAG89 -

Paul Brown Stadium in Cincy is far inferior to Ohio State’s stadium, imho. Outside of being a nfl stadium, it’s got nothing else going on. I’ve been to the 3 stadiums of this discussion and PBS is the worst of the 3. Unapologetically, I’d rank O$U’s stadium ahead of both NFL stadiums in the state.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 16, 2021, 08:47:21 AM
ncsiacfan, anytime you have 2 teams, most likely rivals but not always, promoters, events, a NEUTRAL SITE and a name for the event...ITS A CLASSIC.


And I'm sure the Marauder and Thorobred fans are excited...and maybe some of the Buckeyes will attend the game too.  :nod:
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 16, 2021, 12:40:01 PM
87 Alum,

You might be right, but it is still Ohio State's stadium, which makes them a major player in this classic.  It just doesn't seem right when another school becomes a major player in a classic game that involves two other schools football teams. If the classic have any type of success in Columbus, OH, Ohio State would be a major factor in its future.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 16, 2021, 01:40:57 PM
87 Alum,

You might be right, but it is still Ohio State's stadium, which makes them a major player in this classic.  It just doesn't seem right when another school becomes a major player in a classic game that involves two other schools football teams. If the classic have any type of success in Columbus, OH, Ohio State would be a major factor in its future.

Yeah, but, The Shoe is used for more than just O$U football. So I’m not shocked the game is hosted there. It’s fairly centric in the state, geographically and has a large population within 2-4 hours who could easily support the game via a day trip. If we go, we will park at the fairgrounds and take COTA (bus) in or find a lot near campus and walk it. It may not be a busy weekend and most of the local hotels have shuttles you can arrange if you stay there. I’ve been up there many times for local, state and National swim meets @ McCorkle Aquatic Center. O$U’s staff members are outstanding at customer service. The visiting fans will have a good time there.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JAG89 on June 16, 2021, 02:43:23 PM
I've never been, so I have yet to experience the overwhelming greatness of 'The Shoe'.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Ram55 on June 17, 2021, 09:26:34 AM
I think JAG89 has a point in that Ohio State is wanting something from this. They might not want any of these two schools players, but I have lived long enough to know that clear people won't do anything unless they have more to gain than what you will get. They consistently show us who they are but we won't look or can't remember. Ohio is a TRUMPISH state, so their fans are Trumpers. Need we say more.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ‘87 Alum on June 17, 2021, 10:02:42 AM
I think JAG89 has a point in that Ohio State is wanting something from this. They might not want any of these two schools players, but I have lived long enough to know that clear people won't do anything unless they have more to gain than what you will get. They consistently show us who they are but we won't look or can't remember. Ohio is a TRUMPISH state, so their fans are Trumpers. Need we say more.

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Man please. Using your warped logic, you too are a trumper since he also won North Carolina. Please stop making comments as such.  It actually cheapens the valid points you seldom make.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Platinum_Sound on June 17, 2021, 10:06:09 AM
Damn it's a lot of reaching on this post...Hope the turnout is great. I have family up that way that are planning on attending.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: JBROB on June 17, 2021, 11:25:53 AM
The A&T/NCCU game was played at NC State for years and the basketball game was played at UNC Chapel Hill after we had the fight in 1989 or 1990. 

It's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Professor on June 17, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
I think JAG89 has a point in that Ohio State is wanting something from this. They might not want any of these two schools players, but I have lived long enough to know that clear people won't do anything unless they have more to gain than what you will get. They consistently show us who they are but we won't look or can't remember. Ohio is a TRUMPISH state, so their fans are Trumpers. Need we say more.

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Man please. Using your warped logic, you too are a trumper since he also won North Carolina. Please stop making comments as such.  It actually cheapens the valid points you seldom make.

Pent up anger from the stadium situation at WSSU
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Warpaint on June 17, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Isn't the MEAC/SWAC challenge played at Georgia State's Stadium?  I don't see anyone complaining about that.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Platinum_Sound on June 17, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
Isn't the MEAC/SWAC challenge played at Georgia State's Stadium?  I don't see anyone complaining about that.

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Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Jay_Thomas on June 17, 2021, 11:52:44 AM
Isn't the MEAC/SWAC challenge played at Georgia State's Stadium?  I don't see anyone complaining about that.


YEP. Thats where it is played.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 17, 2021, 12:28:09 PM
It is. It was the Olympic stadium for the 1996 Olympic games. It has been sized down to 23,000. The original seats are still there. Same as Soldiers Field in Chicago.
The changes in Soldiers Field got it taken off the national register list. I am glad that I got to see a game there before the remodeling. Lynn Swann did a complete remodeling of the Los Angeles Coliseum which down sized it to 77,000 seats with the same outer shell. The seats are wider, better, and USC colors. UCLA which once played there,  play their home games in the Rose Bowl.

My original comments were not intended as a criticism of this game.  It was of the timing. This game had previously been played in November.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: Warpaint on June 17, 2021, 12:39:34 PM
It is. It was the Olympic stadium for the 1996 Olympic games. It has been sized down to 23,000. The original seats are still there. Same as Soldiers Field in Chicago.
The changes in Soldiers Field got it taken off the national register list. I am glad that I got to see a game there before the remodeling. Lynn Swann did a complete remodeling of the Los Angeles Coliseum which down sized it to 77,000 seats with the same outer shell. The seats are wider, better, and USC colors. UCLA which once played there,  play their home games in the Rose Bowl.

My original comments were not intended as a criticism of this game.  It was of the timing. This game had previously been played in November.

Central State and KSU are still playing in November.  Some SIAC and CIAA schools have had a hard time scheduling games this season.  So Central State and KSU were able to add an additional game in "Week 0".  This one is nonconference where their November game counts as a conference game.

The teams needed an extra game and now they get to play in a neutral site "classic".  Assuming they get a decent payout this seems like a win all the way around.
Title: Re: Ohio State’s stadium to host HBCU football classic
Post by: ncsiacfan on June 17, 2021, 01:49:42 PM
Not long ago, NCCU accepted a game with Western Michigan University in Kalamazoo so that fellow UNC system member Appalachian State could schedule a home game with Miami (Fla.) It was the date that Miami said they would "come up to the mountains". We took it on the chin from a bowl bound division I team. No one forced us to do that. With as many football playing schools that the SIAC has, it would disturb me to think that they would not be as cooperative. Kentucky State's attendance has always been fairly good. The MEAC has already expressed interest in them. If this game goes well, they may come calling sooner than later.