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Title: CIAA Expansion
Post by: vuu06 on May 15, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: FunCkMaster on May 15, 2021, 12:59:45 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

I would hope not. There are more than enough schools at the moment.

The end.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: FunCkMaster on May 15, 2021, 01:00:24 PM
Yes, I am serving as the ultimate buzz-kill today. :nod: :lol:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: dragon601713 on May 15, 2021, 01:12:32 PM
Could UDC be a possible candidate for the CIAA if VSU leaves?
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: y04185 on May 15, 2021, 02:26:29 PM
Why would VSU leave the CIAA? 
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: JBROB on May 15, 2021, 02:43:27 PM
Northern
Bowie State University
Elizabeth City State University
Lincoln University (PA)
Virginia State University
Virginia Union University

Southern
Fayetteville State Unversity
Johnson C. Smith University
Livingstone College
Shaw University
Saint Augustine's University
Winston-Salem State University

Chowan University (Associate Member) (Football only)
Claflin University (non football)

https://theciaa.com/sports/2021/3/23/Membership.aspx
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: colapanther13 on May 15, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
No one is leaving the CIAA any time soon. I know some posters here are predicting half the conference to jump to the MEAC but until something like that is close to happening (it never will) then the CIAA is fine. Let the SIAC be the conference that adds a new member every year.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: ncsiacfan on May 15, 2021, 07:17:02 PM
Before North Alabama moved up, I heard their football announcer say that they were glad that they had the game with Miles because there were few DII teams to play. There was once a mid west conference that included Tennessee State, Kentucky State, Central State, and Lincoln of Missouri. It was my understanding that the legislature forced Tennessee State to make their current conference affiliation. There was a southern conference that included Savannah State, Albany State, Edward Waters, I think Paine and I don't know who else. It seems like Dillard, Huston-Tillerson, Wiley and many HBCUs west of Mississippi just stoped playing football.
 
It does seem like the SIAC will take any school west of South Carolina that wants to be DII. I get the impression that they feel a obligation to do so. They also include a non HBCU in Alabama. With our smaller enrollments, we make the long trips. Dissatisfaction with this has been expressed on this forum. I was once a critic of the SIAC. I stopped being one when the Commissioner got a award for having having the best managed DII conference in the nation. It should also be remembered that the MEAC originally did not want either Morris Brown or Savannah State. The latter at least turned out to have been a mistake.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 15, 2021, 08:07:01 PM


Before North Alabama moved up, I heard their football announcer say that they were glad that they had the game with Miles because there were few DII teams to play. There was once a mid west conference that included Tennessee State, Kentucky State, Central State, and Lincoln of Missouri. It was my understanding that the legislature forced Tennessee State to make their current conference affiliation. There was a southern conference that included Savannah State, Albany State, Edward Waters, I think Paine and I don't know who else. It seems like Dillard, Huston-Tillerson, Wiley and many HBCUs west of Mississippi just stoped playing football.
 
It does seem like the SIAC will take any school west of South Carolina that wants to be DII. I get the impression that they feel a obligation to do so. They also include a non HBCU in Alabama. With our smaller enrollments, we make the long trips. Dissatisfaction with this has been expressed on this forum. I was once a critic of the SIAC. I stopped being one when the Commissioner got a award for having having the best managed DII conference in the nation. It should also be remembered that the MEAC originally did not want either Morris Brown or Savannah State. The latter at least turned out to have been a mistake.

OMG!!! Y'all just  not going to let that urban legend die are you. At this point, If it doesn't come up at least once a year. I'm afraid the world will end. No matter how many times the last two decades or so it's been refuted.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 15, 2021, 08:08:26 PM
Yes, I am serving as the ultimate buzz-kill today. :nod:
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Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: eagle pride on May 15, 2021, 08:11:00 PM
Wow, a lot of schools.  Maybe that's why VSU is exploring. 
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: soflorattler on May 15, 2021, 08:17:32 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 15, 2021, 08:43:20 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: JBROB on May 15, 2021, 09:13:11 PM
Defecting teams make mistake, CIAA boss says
Mar 1, 2007

Leon Kerry leaned back on a leather couch at Bobcats Arena in Charlotte and smiled as the first game of his basketball tournament tipped off this week.

“I’m the big dog here in Division II,” the CIAA commissioner said. “We’re the biggest event in Division II NCAA. I like that.”

Kerry has been the boss of the nation’s oldest league of historically black colleges for 17 years. This week’s CIAA tournament is expected to bring 20,000 fans, and the men’s final Saturday will be the only nationally televised Division II conference championship game.

But Kerry also faces several significant issues, the biggest being the steady stream of CIAA schools moving up to Division I. Winston-Salem State left a year ago, and N.C. Central will depart at the end of the school year, leaving the league with 10 schools.

Kerry is convinced those schools are making the wrong decision.

“The thing is, when they go, they play .500 basketball,” he said. “You never hear from them again. They won’t be winning 28 games and playing in the national championship. They will never win a national championship in my lifetime.”

https://greensboro.com/defecting-teams-make-mistake-ciaa-boss-says/article_ac920680-0b53-520a-a996-99a11b945c60.html
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: y04185 on May 15, 2021, 09:31:06 PM
Defecting teams make mistake, CIAA boss says
Mar 1, 2007

Leon Kerry leaned back on a leather couch at Bobcats Arena in Charlotte and smiled as the first game of his basketball tournament tipped off this week.

“I’m the big dog here in Division II,” the CIAA commissioner said. “We’re the biggest event in Division II NCAA. I like that.”

Kerry has been the boss of the nation’s oldest league of historically black colleges for 17 years. This week’s CIAA tournament is expected to bring 20,000 fans, and the men’s final Saturday will be the only nationally televised Division II conference championship game.

But Kerry also faces several significant issues, the biggest being the steady stream of CIAA schools moving up to Division I. Winston-Salem State left a year ago, and N.C. Central will depart at the end of the school year, leaving the league with 10 schools.

Kerry is convinced those schools are making the wrong decision.

“The thing is, when they go, they play .500 basketball,” he said. “You never hear from them again. They won’t be winning 28 games and playing in the national championship. They will never win a national championship in my lifetime.”

https://greensboro.com/defecting-teams-make-mistake-ciaa-boss-says/article_ac920680-0b53-520a-a996-99a11b945c60.html

He's still right.  Mighty Central couldn't beat a SWAC school in the play in game.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: eagle pride on May 15, 2021, 09:47:35 PM
 :offtopic:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: ncsiacfan on May 15, 2021, 11:33:23 PM
What has been refuted? If I am in error in anything that I posted, I do not mind being corrected.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 16, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
What has been refuted? If I am in error in anything that I posted, I do not mind being corrected.
The part about the legislature
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: ncsiacfan on May 16, 2021, 04:49:40 PM
Duly noted. Thankyou.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: soflorattler on May 16, 2021, 07:43:05 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 16, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're are where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: BisonBlu on May 17, 2021, 07:03:09 AM
Defecting teams make mistake, CIAA boss says
Mar 1, 2007

Leon Kerry leaned back on a leather couch at Bobcats Arena in Charlotte and smiled as the first game of his basketball tournament tipped off this week.

“I’m the big dog here in Division II,” the CIAA commissioner said. “We’re the biggest event in Division II NCAA. I like that.”

Kerry has been the boss of the nation’s oldest league of historically black colleges for 17 years. This week’s CIAA tournament is expected to bring 20,000 fans, and the men’s final Saturday will be the only nationally televised Division II conference championship game.

But Kerry also faces several significant issues, the biggest being the steady stream of CIAA schools moving up to Division I. Winston-Salem State left a year ago, and N.C. Central will depart at the end of the school year, leaving the league with 10 schools.

Kerry is convinced those schools are making the wrong decision.

“The thing is, when they go, they play .500 basketball,” he said. “You never hear from them again. They won’t be winning 28 games and playing in the national championship. They will never win a national championship in my lifetime.”

https://greensboro.com/defecting-teams-make-mistake-ciaa-boss-says/article_ac920680-0b53-520a-a996-99a11b945c60.html

He's still right.  Mighty Central couldn't beat a SWAC school in the play in game.

Yeah, Central has not made that jump to advance in the round of 16 like many would hope. But student enrollment has grown significantly over the past six years prior to "BLM Movement".  The move to D-I has had a huge impact of out-of-state application because of athletics. Yes, their baseball program is shutting down. But if they are redistributing the funds to other programs this is the right time with the entire MEAC South now gone there was no one else in to play in divisional play.  Moving these resources could give other programs the necessary boost that they need pick up where NCAT and BCU left off in the league.   

In terms of the CIAA, it will hold on to all of its current members by default. VSU is the only school that has an incentive to move but they cant do it alone. What they really need to do is look to add Bluefield State, Coppin and Norfolk to its membership to strengthen basketball and baseball.  This move would also make divisional travel simple and put together more natural rivalry games in the north. 
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: westcoastaggie on May 17, 2021, 08:17:50 AM
Defecting teams make mistake, CIAA boss says
Mar 1, 2007

Leon Kerry leaned back on a leather couch at Bobcats Arena in Charlotte and smiled as the first game of his basketball tournament tipped off this week.

“I’m the big dog here in Division II,” the CIAA commissioner said. “We’re the biggest event in Division II NCAA. I like that.”

Kerry has been the boss of the nation’s oldest league of historically black colleges for 17 years. This week’s CIAA tournament is expected to bring 20,000 fans, and the men’s final Saturday will be the only nationally televised Division II conference championship game.

But Kerry also faces several significant issues, the biggest being the steady stream of CIAA schools moving up to Division I. Winston-Salem State left a year ago, and N.C. Central will depart at the end of the school year, leaving the league with 10 schools.

Kerry is convinced those schools are making the wrong decision.

“The thing is, when they go, they play .500 basketball,” he said. “You never hear from them again. They won’t be winning 28 games and playing in the national championship. They will never win a national championship in my lifetime.”

https://greensboro.com/defecting-teams-make-mistake-ciaa-boss-says/article_ac920680-0b53-520a-a996-99a11b945c60.html

He's still right.  Mighty Central couldn't beat a SWAC school in the play in game.

Yeah, Central has not made that jump to advance in the round of 16 like many would hope. But student enrollment has grown significantly over the past six years prior to "BLM Movement".  The move to D-I has had a huge impact of out-of-state application because of athletics. Yes, their baseball program is shutting down. But if they are redistributing the funds to other programs this is the right time with the entire MEAC South now gone there was no one else in to play in divisional play.  Moving these resources could give other programs the necessary boost that they need pick up where NCAT and BCU left off in the league.   

In terms of the CIAA, it will hold on to all of its current members by default. VSU is the only school that has an incentive to move but they cant do it alone. What they really need to do is look to add Bluefield State, Coppin and Norfolk to its membership to strengthen basketball and baseball.  This move would also make divisional travel simple and put together more natural rivalry games in the north.
Norfolk State will NOT give up Division-1 membership.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: MilesBear1 on May 17, 2021, 12:25:05 PM
Interesting readings from y'all posts. :nod:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: soflorattler on May 17, 2021, 02:13:27 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D

As of the present, we are currently still in the MEAC so that makes it my business, nosy Parker. You just worry about how you're going to explain that asskicking in your home stadium on Saturday Nov. 6. As for NCCU winning last weekend, we have lost games before in the run-up to the conference championship and won the conference crown in the tournament. So don't gloat...
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: MilesBear1 on May 17, 2021, 02:51:34 PM
Are y'all throwing Shade at each other? :lol: :lol: :lol: :snicker :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: JAG89 on May 17, 2021, 02:55:39 PM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D

As of the present, we are currently still in the MEAC so that makes it my business, nosy Parker. You just worry about how you're going to explain that asskicking in your home stadium on Saturday Nov. 6. As for NCCU winning last weekend, we have lost games before in the run-up to the conference championship and won the conference crown in the tournament. So don't gloat...

There won't be much to explain, once y'all mail our shoes back after taking a long soak.
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: EPJr on May 17, 2021, 06:37:21 PM
Could UDC be a possible candidate for the CIAA if VSU leaves?

not this again
call us back when UDC has football
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: FunCkMaster on May 17, 2021, 08:22:22 PM
Yes, I am serving as the ultimate buzz-kill today. :nod:
.(https://media3.giphy.com/media/88iYsvbegSUn9bSTF8/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd70ocu5uweyqrlp3j7xtlv59gawgwb624rv8wsfela&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: soflorattler on May 18, 2021, 07:08:43 AM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D

As of the present, we are currently still in the MEAC so that makes it my business, nosy Parker. You just worry about how you're going to explain that asskicking in your home stadium on Saturday Nov. 6. As for NCCU winning last weekend, we have lost games before in the run-up to the conference championship and won the conference crown in the tournament. So don't gloat...

There won't be much to explain, once y'all mail our shoes back after taking a long soak.
Country bumpkins have shoes? Okay, Lil' Abner... :snicker
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: ‘87 Alum on May 18, 2021, 07:13:59 AM
Not a Lil Abner reference....
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: bluedog on May 18, 2021, 07:31:29 AM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D

As of the present, we are currently still in the MEAC so that makes it my business, nosy Parker. You just worry about how you're going to explain that asskicking in your home stadium on Saturday Nov. 6. As for NCCU winning last weekend, we have lost games before in the run-up to the conference championship and won the conference crown in the tournament. So don't gloat...
No you're not. You're in purgatory.  You're like a drug addict that's afraid to go cold turkey. Lol
Title: Re: CIAA Expansion
Post by: JAG89 on May 18, 2021, 07:40:44 AM
With several schools leaving the MEAC over the past 3-4 years and as they are trying to expand I'm sure the CIAA will most likely be impacted with schools like Va. State possibly making the move up.  Is the CIAA looking for future expansion?

The MEAC is the worst run conference in NCAA. Any program looking to join them would be crazy. :no:
Man stop it. Lol

 :nono2: No, seriously blue. D.Thomas is the worst commissioner to ever head a conference in the history of the NCAA.
Well you're where you should have been the last four decades now. So no need to concern yourself with other people business. Just don't ever get swept by a MEAC team again. Or we'll have to ask for a refund. :D

As of the present, we are currently still in the MEAC so that makes it my business, nosy Parker. You just worry about how you're going to explain that asskicking in your home stadium on Saturday Nov. 6. As for NCCU winning last weekend, we have lost games before in the run-up to the conference championship and won the conference crown in the tournament. So don't gloat...

There won't be much to explain, once y'all mail our shoes back after taking a long soak.
Country bumpkins have shoes? Okay, Lil' Abner... :snicker

That's right, knowing y'all, y'all might enjoy keeping a shoe, along with a few other things straight up the rectilinear.  LMAO!!!