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Title: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 03, 2021, 02:18:22 PM
If there was a Hall of Fame for black movies, The Color Purple would be my nominee. What other movies would you nominate? We are not talking about the best movies but the iconic ones that will lead a discussion in the hair salon or barbershop.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: ‘87 Alum on April 03, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
Do The Right Thing
Boyz N The Hood
Malcolm X
One Night In Miami
Brian’s Song (Original)
Cornbread, Earl & Me
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 03, 2021, 02:47:35 PM
I had to look Brian's Song up on Youtube. I remember seeing that when I was little.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: FunCkMaster on April 03, 2021, 02:47:54 PM
Dead Presidents
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Post by: y04185 on April 03, 2021, 04:51:09 PM
Shaft
Superfly

Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 03, 2021, 05:15:15 PM
Sounder
To Sleep with Anger
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Wildman78 on April 03, 2021, 05:37:13 PM
Imitation of Life (1959 Version)
Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner
Shaft
Color Purple
Dead Presidents
Do the Right Thing
Malcolm X
Coming to America
Life
Black Panther
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Strike79 on April 03, 2021, 05:54:36 PM
....................................
Brian’s Song (Original)
???................uhhh, Brian’s Song is considered a “black movie”? I mean one of the protagonists (Gayles Sayers) is black, but pretty much everyone else is white, correct? Anyway, when Billy Dee Williams said at that banquet at the end of the movie, “I loved Brian Piccolo,” man a brutha gets teary-eyed everytime.  :lol:

Anyway, peeps have already mentioned Sounder and Shaft, two of my absolute favorites, but no one has yet mentioned Love Jones, with Larenz Tate and Nis Long. Man, y’all trippin.  :no:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: ‘87 Alum on April 03, 2021, 06:04:24 PM
Strike -

Ya killing me Smalls....ya killing me....

Hell yeah I consider Brian Song a black movie solely based on the fact the Billie Dee Williams carried that whole movie IMO. So, when asked to include those I would consider, I did. The only notable exception on my list was Blazing Saddles, which I should have included originally.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 03, 2021, 06:46:01 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 03, 2021, 07:25:10 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:

You mean to tell me there is a black person alive who never saw Imitation of Life?
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: CIAA-FAN on April 03, 2021, 07:52:53 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:


YOU REALLY NEED TO WATCH BOTH VERSIONS OF "IMITATION OF LIFE".  BOTH VERSIONS WERE YEARS AHEAD OF THEIR TIME.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: CIAA-FAN on April 03, 2021, 07:57:08 PM
MALCOLM X
DO THE RIGHT THING
MO BETTER BLUES
LADY SINGS THE BLUES
SHAFT
SCHOOL DAZE
100 RIFLES
SERGEANT RUTLIDGE
A RAISIN IN THE SUN
BLACK PANTHER


THESE MOVIES WERE ALL INFLUENTIAL IN THAT LONG AFTER I SAW THEM THEY IMPACTED AND CONTINUE TO IMPACT (TO SOME DEGREE) THE WAY I SAW MYSELF, THE WAY I SAW AND RELATED TO OTHERS, THE WAY I PERCEIVED THE WORLD, THE WAY I DRESSED, THE WAY I REACTED TO WHITE PEOPLE AND MY VERY CHRISTIAN FAITH
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 03, 2021, 08:02:08 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:

You mean to tell me there is a black person alive who never saw Imitation of Life?

I live on Onnidan dealing with y04185 and oldsport. Isn't that that same?
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 03, 2021, 08:08:21 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:

You mean to tell me there is a black person alive who never saw Imitation of Life?

I live on Onnidan dealing with y04185 and oldsport.  :lol:

Ok, you have never seen the movie but sat through the live stage version instead.   :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Wildman78 on April 03, 2021, 09:38:49 PM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:

Fair points. I wanted to list 10 movies. I included Imitation of Life because as a child, it was the one movie, every Black person watched when it was aired. I felt I had to include at least one Sidney Portier film. So, I listed Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner. On second thought, maybe I should have listed Uptown Saturday Night.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: BrotherWiregrass on April 03, 2021, 09:54:32 PM
The Mack
Coming to America
Boomerang
Waiting To Exhale
Boyz-n-da-Hood
Juice
What's Love Got To Do With It?
Hoop Dreams
Jungle Fever
Menace to Society
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: BrotherWiregrass on April 03, 2021, 09:57:13 PM
Dead Presidents

My favorite out of that entire movie was Cutty.

https://youtu.be/51RYrAV_9s4
https://youtu.be/DA85r3xt1Og

Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: House Rules on April 03, 2021, 10:26:48 PM
SCHOOL DAZE
^^^^^^^^^  YES!!
This movie captured my college experience in the AUC so well that every time I watch it, I cry at the end credits.  The soundtrack is a wonderful blend of artistry...big band sound, church, ja-- and exquisite female lead vocals. But the story was really a re-enactment of my time at Morehouse.  Spike hit this one out of the park!
:nod: :clap: :bow:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Golden Kitten on April 03, 2021, 10:33:30 PM
Cotton Comes to Harlem
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: 81alphaeagle on April 04, 2021, 10:30:12 AM
I had to look Brian's Song up on Youtube. I remember seeing that when I was little.

?
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: 81alphaeagle on April 04, 2021, 10:32:31 AM
Y and os3//5's all time favorite:  Gone with the Wind.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Strike79 on April 04, 2021, 10:52:14 AM
I'm going to follow on Strike's question asking about these movies listed as "Black" movies

Guess Who's Coming to Dinner

Imitation of Life - never saw the movie but reading the synopsis, I think the actor playing black isn't even black.  :shrug:
M&G......always enjoy reading and responding to your posts because they are usually thought-provoking. I understand the point you are making about Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner. Not exactly a black movie per se, but premised on a VERY racial theme of inter-racial dating, especially in the 60’s. Sidney Poitier was BEYOND brilliant in his portrayal of the negro suitor.

As a couple of peeps have already mentioned^^^, there are actually two versions of Imitation of Life, the first one produced in the 30’s (?) and the second produced in the late 50’s/60’s (?). I have seen both, but the latter, more recent version is absolutely gut-wrenching. Again, not particularly a black movie, but premised on TOXIC racial prejudice.

Btw, thought of another black movie that no one has mentioned, and that is “Glory”. The story about the all-black regiment in the Civil War, and for which Denzel Washington won best supporting actor award.

That very last scene when those boys are marching along the South Carolina beach to take the confederate fort, KNOWING that they are sitting ducks and will sustain heavy casualties is beyond gut-wrenching. And the soundtrack of the Boys Choir of Harlem chanting on the background music makes this final scene almost too unbearable to watch.

I am damn near getting a lump in my throat right now thinking about that scene.  :'(
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: 81alphaeagle on April 04, 2021, 11:31:35 AM
Glory
A Soldier Story
Cotton comes to Harlem
Do the Right Thing
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Decks on April 04, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
Some of my significant movies:

A Soldiers Story - Howard Rollins stellar performance as an officer attorney. Most of all the evil educated negro vs the unsuspecting uneducated negro.

Shaft

Glory

Jungle Fever - Helped reset comfort levels around black men and white women sexual relationships. Also created Urban slang of "Jungle Fever" to identify this type of interracial lust.

How Stella Got Her Groove Back - midlife crisis movie for Black women.

Remember The Titans - True story of NCCU alum Herman Boone 

The Princess and The Frog - First African American Disney Princess. Fondly remember my wife taking my daughter to see this movie.

Black Panther - First Black super hero movie to hit the big screen.

Hidden Figures - One of my all time favorites because it is based on a true story of NASA contributions by black women. 
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: 81alphaeagle on April 04, 2021, 12:12:57 PM
Glory
A Soldier Story
Cotton comes to Harlem
Do the Right Thing
Rag Time
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 04, 2021, 06:42:51 PM
My interest in Imitation to Life has be piqued

TCM has it airing on 4/11. I'll put a reminder on my phone.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Que82 on April 05, 2021, 12:27:36 PM
Malcolm X
Color Purple
Shaft (Richard Roundtree)
New Jack City
Boyz in Da Hood
Do the Right Thing
Best Man
Love and basketball
Car Wash
Ray
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: soflorattler on April 05, 2021, 03:18:15 PM
The Learning Tree

Leadbelly

Let's Do It Again

Buck and the Preacher

American Gangster

Edge of the City
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 05, 2021, 04:47:32 PM
Comment on Edge of the City
I discovered this gem on TCM one night when zero was on TV.  Saw Sidney Poitier name and set my timer to remind me to watch.  I wasn’t disappointed.

soflo, by chance did you see Odds Against Tomorrow with Harry Belafonte from 1959?  Happened upon it the same way.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: y04185 on April 05, 2021, 04:57:08 PM
My interest in Imitation to Life has be piqued

TCM has it airing on 4/11. I'll put a reminder on my phone.

You haven't missed much.  It's more of a chick flick.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Jay_Thomas on April 05, 2021, 05:07:47 PM
M&G, there are 2 productions of Imitation of LIfe. The original is from 1934. The 2nd one is from 1959 with Lana Turner and Juanita Moore. Thats the one that gets all of the replays and the one that people talk about the most.

Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 05, 2021, 05:12:42 PM
The ‘59 version is the one to air next Sunday
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 05, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Honestly M&G, you are the only black I have ever met who has never seen that movie. Granted there are many who have never seen the original.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Blackwell on April 05, 2021, 06:32:59 PM
Nothing But a Man...
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 05, 2021, 07:44:10 PM
Honestly M&G, you are the only black I have ever met who has never seen that movie. Granted there are many who have never seen the original.

and I still might not see it.  I’m subject to fall asleep on it.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: soflorattler on April 05, 2021, 08:09:49 PM
Comment on Edge of the City
I discovered this gem on TCM one night when zero was on TV.  Saw Sidney Poitier name and set my timer to remind me to watch.  I wasn’t disappointed.

soflo, by chance did you see Odds Against Tomorrow with Harry Belafonte from 1959?  Happened upon it the same way.
:no: No. Never saw Odds Against Tomorrow.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 05, 2021, 08:54:06 PM
give it look if you can
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: 81alphaeagle on April 05, 2021, 10:46:40 PM
Y's favorite:
Madea Goes to Jail
Madea Family Reunion
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 05, 2021, 11:08:33 PM
Y's favorite:
Madea Goes to Jail
Madea Family Reunion

I was thinking any Elvis Presley movie.  Since Elvis got his moves from a Black man
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 05, 2021, 11:39:02 PM
Honestly M&G, you are the only black I have ever met who has never seen that movie. Granted there are many who have never seen the original.

and I still might not see it.  I’m subject to fall asleep on it.

It was the one movie where parents would gather their kids around the tv when it came on. The Wizard of Oz, and The Ten Commandments were right up there as well. We had to go over to y nem's house to watch Gone With The Wind, Elvis movies, Shirley Temple movies and Green Pastures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQM1UpamdM0
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 06, 2021, 12:09:03 AM
My Mother would not have wanted to watch no supposed black person lamenting they weren't white.  She sneered at Leslie Uggams for marrying a white man.


Shyt....I still remember my mother threatening me one time out of the blue, "...you bet not bring no white gal up in here...."  I'm thinking to myself "whoa...where did that come from?"

  So you see it's not hard for me to have NOT seen this movie back when it was new. Certainly nothing I'm interested in even now, but will take a look next week if I stay awake.  :lol:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 06, 2021, 12:15:37 AM
I feel you. (Wait a minute, it's freaking past midnight now, and you are still awake. How are you not able to stay up to watch that movie?) My mother use to have a fit whenever an Elvis movie came on. She hated Green Pastures with a passion.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 06, 2021, 12:19:23 AM
the movie may bore me to sleep.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 06, 2021, 12:33:23 AM
the movie may bore me to sleep.

It may now, but back in the day, it was special.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: WileECoyote06 on April 06, 2021, 01:28:04 AM
No love for Friday?

Also, Dreamgirls, Get Out, When We Were Kings, and Akeelah and the Bee.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: iceman4221 on April 06, 2021, 11:12:13 AM
No love for...

Drumline

Marshall

Dream Girls

42

Uncorked

Dear White People

Just Mercy

Girls Trip

Mudbound

Hidden Figures

I Am Not Your Negro

12 Years a Slave...


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Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 06, 2021, 08:10:16 PM
The title said Hall of Fame.  Not every black movie is HoF worthy.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: y04185 on April 06, 2021, 08:50:34 PM
Y's favorite:
Madea Goes to Jail
Madea Family Reunion

Not a big Madea fan.

Nobody liked Soul Plane?

Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: CIAA-FAN on April 06, 2021, 09:45:29 PM
The title said Hall of Fame.  Not every black movie is HoF worthy.


THIS VERY POINT WAS MISSED BY SOME PEOPLE. ::)
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Que82 on April 07, 2021, 12:06:20 AM
My Mother would not have wanted to watch no supposed black person lamenting they weren't white.  She sneered at Leslie Uggams for marrying a white man.


Shyt....I still remember my mother threatening me one time out of the blue, "...you bet not bring no white gal up in here...."  I'm thinking to myself "whoa...where did that come from?"

  So you see it's not hard for me to have NOT seen this movie back when it was new. Certainly nothing I'm interested in even now, but will take a look next week if I stay awake.  :lol:
You too?  My Mom told me that when I left for the military.  I had never been interested in white women and liked my women jet black.  However, because my mom said it I hooked up with a white senior at Austin Peay no sooner than I arrived at Fort Campbell to see what all the hype was about.  We broke up however after I saw a cross burning in a field in Clarksville. :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 07, 2021, 01:06:37 AM
The title said Hall of Fame.  Not every black movie is HoF worthy.


THIS VERY POINT WAS MISSED BY SOME PEOPLE. ::)


 :lol: Yeah, the thread evolved into something I did not intend. But once you release something into the ocean, you have little control over the direction the waves take it.

IMO there are only a few iconic black movies. These are the movies that are actually discussed in black circles. The Color Purple is one.  Imitation of Life is another. Harlem Nights, Coming to America, the original Friday, Boyz in Da Hood, School Daze, Miss Jane Pittman....

Back in the 70's Car Wash was a big point of discussion in the community. Don't know why it resonated, but it did. Carmen Jones was the movie of it's time. To Sir with Love was a big thing to do in the late 60's. Coolie High in the 70's.

Most of those movies were not Academy Award caliber, but they were elevated to a certain status in the community.

The Color Purple is at the top of the heap. Why, if you walk into a room filled with 10,000 black folk, and quoted one of the movie's iconic lines, 100% of the people in the room would know where you got it from. Harlem Nights is another, and it's largely because of Della Reese. Something about shooting off a pinky toe resonated with the community.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: WileECoyote06 on April 07, 2021, 04:51:44 AM
The title said Hall of Fame.  Not every black movie is HoF worthy.


THIS VERY POINT WAS MISSED BY SOME PEOPLE. ::)


 :lol: Yeah, the thread evolved into something I did not intend. But once you release something into the ocean, you have little control over the direction the waves take it.

IMO there are only a few iconic black movies. These are the movies that are actually discussed in black circles. The Color Purple is one.  Imitation of Life is another. Harlem Nights, Coming to America, the original Friday, Boyz in Da Hood, School Daze, Miss Jane Pittman....

Back in the 70's Car Wash was a big point of discussion in the community. Don't know why it resonated, but it did. Carmen Jones was the movie of it's time. To Sir with Love was a big thing to do in the late 60's. Coolie High in the 70's.

Most of those movies were not Academy Award caliber, but they were elevated to a certain status in the community.

The Color Purple is at the top of the heap. Why, if you walk into a room filled with 10,000 black folk, and quoted one of the movie's iconic lines, 100% of the people in the room would know where you got it from. Harlem Nights is another, and it's largely because of Della Reese. Something about shooting off a pinky toe resonated with the community.

Thanks for adding Friday.  We don't have very many classic stoner movies in our catalog (Half-Baked, How High, etc); and even though Next Friday is insanely funny in it's own right; it lacked the heart of the original Friday. 

26 years later, people are still waiting on 'Smokie' to return to the role.  That tells you something. 
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: soflorattler on April 07, 2021, 09:26:53 AM
In The Heat of the Night (Original)

Jackie Brown

Are HOF worthy I believe.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 07, 2021, 09:33:04 AM
Love her or hate her,  Madea has left a mark on the community and deserves recognition. Everyone has an opinion about her, whether it's positive or negative.

If we did a list of TV shows, the list would be very short.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: WileECoyote06 on April 07, 2021, 09:32:27 PM
Love her or hate her,  Madea has left a mark on the community and deserves recognition. Everyone has an opinion about her, whether it's positive or negative.

If we did a list of TV shows, the list would be very short.

I disagree. Do it.  Animated shows alone could carry the conversation. 
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: iceman4221 on April 07, 2021, 10:38:13 PM
The title said Hall of Fame.  Not every black movie is HoF worthy.

Oh, that's easy...
No love for...

Hidden Figures

I Am Not Your Negro

12 Years a Slave...


 


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Here's an interesting list on 100 years of Black Film Making (https://www.sodapopgraphics.com/smm/100YearsFilmCCA-digitalbooklet.pdf?utm_source=smm&utm_medium=PDF&utm_campaign=100%20Years%20Black%20Film)
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 10, 2021, 09:44:04 PM
Brother From Another Planet

Sweet Sweetback Baadasssss Song
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Bison66 on April 11, 2021, 11:48:19 AM
Reallly enjoyed Brother from Another Planet.

TOP of my list for HOF:

LUMUMBA by Raoul Peck

Just commented on it in another thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPYtkQon10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPYtkQon10)

Must see!!

O0
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: CIAA-FAN on April 11, 2021, 03:28:39 PM
Love her or hate her,  Madea has left a mark on the community and deserves recognition. Everyone has an opinion about her, whether it's positive or negative.

If we did a list of TV shows, the list would be very short.


A FAIR AND REASONABLY OBJECTIVE EVALUATION OF "MADEA".  THIS CARACATURE OF MANY BLACK WOMEN MAKES THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK STAND UP.   FOR ME IT HITS TOO CLOSE TO HOME IN MANY INSTANCES.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 11, 2021, 05:03:40 PM
Love her or hate her,  Madea has left a mark on the community and deserves recognition. Everyone has an opinion about her, whether it's positive or negative.

If we did a list of TV shows, the list would be very short.


A FAIR AND REASONABLY OBJECTIVE EVALUATION OF "MADEA".  THIS CARACATURE OF MANY BLACK WOMEN MAKES THE HAIR ON THE BACK OF MY NECK STAND UP.   FOR ME IT HITS TOO CLOSE TO HOME IN MANY INSTANCES.

She is not my cup of tea, but church folk love her, less education folk love  her, so I give her props for appealing to a certain niche.  Those words of wisdom TP dispenses at the end resonates with a lot of people.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 11, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
I just finished watching 'Imitation of Life' on TCM.

Still wouldn't characterize as a 'black' movie. As noted before, Hollywood couldn't/wouldn't cast a light skin black to play Sarah Jane? Typical and shameful. Let's not even mention how they billed Juanita Moore in the credits.  >:(

I hated the mother chasing after her 'grown' daughter across the country for what??
She hated herself since she was little. She could have sent a telegram letting her know you can run but you can't hide.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 11, 2021, 08:23:17 PM
Bison66,
I'm taking you up on your Lumumba movie. I found it on AppleTV for rent. It wasn't on Youtube that I could find.

 Didn't know much about Lumumba since he was killed when I was 9. I've heard the CIA probably was in on the murder.

I just wish it was dubbed rather than subtitles for movie like this.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 12, 2021, 01:16:47 AM
I just finished watching 'Imitation of Life' on TCM.

Still wouldn't characterize as a 'black' movie. As noted before, Hollywood couldn't/wouldn't cast a light skin black to play Sarah Jane? Typical and shameful. Let's not even mention how they billed Juanita Moore in the credits.  >:(

I hated the mother chasing after her 'grown' daughter across the country for what??
She hated herself since she was little. She could have sent a telegram letting her know you can run but you can't hide.  :shrug:

That movie resonated with the black audience at the time, today's generation can't relate to it. As you know, 'passing' was the thing to do for many African Americans. No one in my family did it because we were too dark, but almost all of my lighter skinned friends talk about their grand relatives doing it.  Many of those folks did like Sarah Jane and cut themselves off from their darker relatives. There is a part of our history that is not discussed very much. That being, black folk who passed as white, married white, and had kids who only married white. By the 3rd generation, there is a complete separation from their black heritage. I guess black folk do the same in the other direction as well. But those black folk don't try to hide their heritage.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 12, 2021, 09:01:55 AM
I just finished watching 'Imitation of Life' on TCM.

Still wouldn't characterize as a 'black' movie. As noted before, Hollywood couldn't/wouldn't cast a light skin black to play Sarah Jane? Typical and shameful. Let's not even mention how they billed Juanita Moore in the credits.  >:(

I hated the mother chasing after her 'grown' daughter across the country for what??
She hated herself since she was little. She could have sent a telegram letting her know you can run but you can't hide.  :shrug:

That movie resonated with the black audience at the time, today's generation can't relate to it. As you know, 'passing' was the thing to do for many African Americans. No one in my family did it because we were too dark, but almost all of my lighter skinned friends talk about their grand relatives doing it.  Many of those folks did like Sarah Jane and cut themselves off from their darker relatives. There is a part of our history that is not discussed very much. That being, black folk who passed as white, married white, and had kids who only married white. By the 3rd generation, there is a complete separation from their black heritage. I guess black folk do the same in the other direction as well. But those black folk don't try to hide their heritage.

My landlord from my early years in NYC may have been like that. He may have been passing. Don't know his history but there were a few white folk who still lived on my block...in the heart of Bed-Stuy. He owed the building we lived in and worked as a chef at some fancy restaurant in Manhattan. He was a decent person, but cheap on the heat. He died a mysterious death one summer while I was here in Durham for the summer.
My mom would cuss him every winter because of his cheapness with the heat. I guess he was playing up his 'whiteness' in not needing heat like normal black folk.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 12, 2021, 10:28:16 AM
My cousin in California had a son by a white women. The son grew up and dated only white women.  Now all my cousin's grandkids are white in appearance. Not sure what race they identify with on the birth certificate, but my guess would be white since they are 3/4 white. But the thing is, my cousin's son and he are very close. All his kids know and love their black grandfather. It's all about how you raise them.  :nod:
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 12, 2021, 10:35:15 AM
So...are you suggesting Annie didn't raise Sarah Jane correctly?

Annie did seem to be too submissive and they weren't even in the south.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 12, 2021, 10:44:21 AM
So...are you suggesting Annie didn't raise Sarah Jane correctly?

Annie did seem to be too submissive and they weren't even in the south.

That is hard to say M&G. I really can't fault black folk for wanting a better life for themselves and their kids back then. I realize that was not the situation in the movie, but one thing that might have hurt Sara Jane was the fact that her mother worked and lived with white folk. I think most black folk who were raised by white people probably experience some form of self hatred as they navigated the two racial environments.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 12, 2021, 10:47:29 AM
I'm not faulting Annie for wanting a better life, I'm talking about her methods. I said submissive, maybe that wasn't the right word.

But you're right if you are living with white folk, some issues are likely.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Capler on April 12, 2021, 10:56:24 AM
I'm not faulting Annie for wanting a better life, I'm talking about her methods. I said submissive, maybe that wasn't the right word.

But you're right if you are living with white folk, some issues are likely.

When you say submissive, do you mean the way she was somewhat passive in the way she dealt with her daughter? If so, I'm not sure being more aggressive would have changed the outcome. I know black folk love to 'beat the black off you' when we show out, but I wondering if that was actually a good tactic. I understand cee dog is the Beat the Black Off You local club president, and will feel differently. 
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Maroon and Gray on April 12, 2021, 11:07:59 AM
No how she talked to white folk. I think she even said 'we' when they moved into the fancy house after the Lora got her big break. Annie "we spending too much money". I think I heard that.

Whupping Sarah would not have done any good. She was already brain washed early on.  She needed therapy.
Title: Re: Onnidan's Black Movie Hall of Fame
Post by: Wildman78 on April 12, 2021, 11:28:26 AM
Ms. Moore was nominated for an Academy Award and a Golden Globe Award—a rare occurrence at the time for an African-American performer—for her work. The Sirk film was a glossy color remake of a 1934 film of the same name—based on a Fannie Hurst novel—about the trials of two women of different races as they try to raise their children as single mothers. It was derided as a soap opera at the time of its release, but has since been reassessed as one of Sirk's most auteurist achievements.

https://www.playbill.com/article/juanita-moore-oscar-nominated-actress-for-imitation-of-life-dies-at-99-com-215592