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Title: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: klg14 on March 31, 2021, 01:50:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2lEZEguWzI
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 03:19:33 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Ram55 on March 31, 2021, 03:33:37 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: BrotherWiregrass on March 31, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
Considering all that blight and deserted buildings in the proximity. It will be hard to find a location.


Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Que82 on March 31, 2021, 04:12:57 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
????

New Mexico State   Independent   30,343
Georgia Southern   Sun Belt   25,000
North Texas              C-USA   30,850
Liberty                 Independent (2018)   25,000
Tulane   American   30,000
NIU   MAC   23,595
Coastal Carolina   Sun Belt   20,000
San Jose State   Mountain West   30,456
Arkansas State   Sun Belt   30,964
Georgia State   Sun Belt   25,000
San Diego State   Mountain West   27,000
Bowling Green   MAC   24,000
New Mexico   Mountain West   39,224
Florida Atlantic   C-USA   30,000
Miami   MAC   24,286
SMU   American   32,000
Toledo   MAC   26,248
South Alabama   Sun Belt   25,450
Western Kentucky   C-USA   22,113
Akron   MAC   30,000
Texas State   Sun Belt   30,000
Louisiana Tech   C-USA   28,109
Middle Tennessee   C-USA   31,000
Wyoming   Mountain West   29,181
Louisiana-Monroe   Sun Belt   30,427
Central Michigan   MAC   30,255
Appalachian State   Sun Belt   30,000
Old Dominion   C-USA   22,480
Nevada   Mountain West   26,000
Washington State   Pac-12   32,248
Charlotte   C-USA   15,314
Utah State   Mountain West   25,513
Navy   American   34,000
Ohio   MAC   24,000
FIU   C-USA   23,500
Ball State   MAC   22,500
Tulsa   American   30,000[
Wake Forest   ACC   31,500
Buffalo   MAC   29,013
Troy   Sun Belt   30,402
Western Michigan   MAC   30,200
UMass   Independent   17,000

 :shrug: :tiptoe:
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 04:18:43 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.

I don't think FBS is in the SWAC's near future.  It's probably like in the next 10 to 15 year.  ASU's stadium seats about 26k and it costed approximately $65 to $70 million.  I'm sure JSU will make sure the stadium would be easily expandable when necessary.  Also, there are few FBS programs with a stadium just over 30k, such as ULM and LaTech.  Tulane's new stadium only seats 30k.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 04:19:57 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
????

New Mexico State   Independent   30,343
Georgia Southern   Sun Belt   25,000
North Texas              C-USA   30,850
Liberty                 Independent (2018)   25,000
Tulane   American   30,000
NIU   MAC   23,595
Coastal Carolina   Sun Belt   20,000
San Jose State   Mountain West   30,456
Arkansas State   Sun Belt   30,964
Georgia State   Sun Belt   25,000
San Diego State   Mountain West   27,000
Bowling Green   MAC   24,000
New Mexico   Mountain West   39,224
Florida Atlantic   C-USA   30,000
Miami   MAC   24,286
SMU   American   32,000
Toledo   MAC   26,248
South Alabama   Sun Belt   25,450
Western Kentucky   C-USA   22,113
Akron   MAC   30,000
Texas State   Sun Belt   30,000
Louisiana Tech   C-USA   28,109
Middle Tennessee   C-USA   31,000
Wyoming   Mountain West   29,181
Louisiana-Monroe   Sun Belt   30,427
Central Michigan   MAC   30,255
Appalachian State   Sun Belt   30,000
Old Dominion   C-USA   22,480
Nevada   Mountain West   26,000
Washington State   Pac-12   32,248
Charlotte   C-USA   15,314
Utah State   Mountain West   25,513
Navy   American   34,000
Ohio   MAC   24,000
FIU   C-USA   23,500
Ball State   MAC   22,500
Tulsa   American   30,000[
Wake Forest   ACC   31,500
Buffalo   MAC   29,013
Troy   Sun Belt   30,402
Western Michigan   MAC   30,200
UMass   Independent   17,000

 :shrug: :tiptoe:

Thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Ram55 on March 31, 2021, 04:22:40 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
????

New Mexico State   Independent   30,343
Georgia Southern   Sun Belt   25,000
North Texas              C-USA   30,850
Liberty                 Independent (2018)   25,000
Tulane   American   30,000
NIU   MAC   23,595
Coastal Carolina   Sun Belt   20,000
San Jose State   Mountain West   30,456
Arkansas State   Sun Belt   30,964
Georgia State   Sun Belt   25,000
San Diego State   Mountain West   27,000
Bowling Green   MAC   24,000
New Mexico   Mountain West   39,224
Florida Atlantic   C-USA   30,000
Miami   MAC   24,286
SMU   American   32,000
Toledo   MAC   26,248
South Alabama   Sun Belt   25,450
Western Kentucky   C-USA   22,113
Akron   MAC   30,000
Texas State   Sun Belt   30,000
Louisiana Tech   C-USA   28,109
Middle Tennessee   C-USA   31,000
Wyoming   Mountain West   29,181
Louisiana-Monroe   Sun Belt   30,427
Central Michigan   MAC   30,255
Appalachian State   Sun Belt   30,000
Old Dominion   C-USA   22,480
Nevada   Mountain West   26,000
Washington State   Pac-12   32,248
Charlotte   C-USA   15,314
Utah State   Mountain West   25,513
Navy   American   34,000
Ohio   MAC   24,000
FIU   C-USA   23,500
Ball State   MAC   22,500
Tulsa   American   30,000[
Wake Forest   ACC   31,500
Buffalo   MAC   29,013
Troy   Sun Belt   30,402
Western Michigan   MAC   30,200
UMass   Independent   17,000

 :shrug: :tiptoe:

The seating is not want I was questioning. I'm aware of plenty FBS stadiums that size. My questioning was whether the $80 million was enough to get a very nice 30,000 FBS facility.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 04:33:12 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
????

New Mexico State   Independent   30,343
Georgia Southern   Sun Belt   25,000
North Texas              C-USA   30,850
Liberty                 Independent (2018)   25,000
Tulane   American   30,000
NIU   MAC   23,595
Coastal Carolina   Sun Belt   20,000
San Jose State   Mountain West   30,456
Arkansas State   Sun Belt   30,964
Georgia State   Sun Belt   25,000
San Diego State   Mountain West   27,000
Bowling Green   MAC   24,000
New Mexico   Mountain West   39,224
Florida Atlantic   C-USA   30,000
Miami   MAC   24,286
SMU   American   32,000
Toledo   MAC   26,248
South Alabama   Sun Belt   25,450
Western Kentucky   C-USA   22,113
Akron   MAC   30,000
Texas State   Sun Belt   30,000
Louisiana Tech   C-USA   28,109
Middle Tennessee   C-USA   31,000
Wyoming   Mountain West   29,181
Louisiana-Monroe   Sun Belt   30,427
Central Michigan   MAC   30,255
Appalachian State   Sun Belt   30,000
Old Dominion   C-USA   22,480
Nevada   Mountain West   26,000
Washington State   Pac-12   32,248
Charlotte   C-USA   15,314
Utah State   Mountain West   25,513
Navy   American   34,000
Ohio   MAC   24,000
FIU   C-USA   23,500
Ball State   MAC   22,500
Tulsa   American   30,000[
Wake Forest   ACC   31,500
Buffalo   MAC   29,013
Troy   Sun Belt   30,402
Western Michigan   MAC   30,200
UMass   Independent   17,000

 :shrug: :tiptoe:

The seating is not want I was questioning. I'm aware of plenty FBS stadiums that size. My questioning was whether the $80 million was enough to get a very nice 30,000 FBS facility.

If engineered and designed properly with the right people in-charged it is enough. Construction cost is what needs to be kept in-check.  Contractors love projects that they can milk and run up cost with change orders.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: AimHigh on March 31, 2021, 04:35:42 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

JSU AVERAGES OVER 30K no way they will want to drop to JUST AT 30K for their new stadium.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 04:48:17 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

JSU AVERAGES OVER 30K no way they will want to drop to JUST AT 30K for their new stadium.

Okay, but I'm sure they'll raise their ticket prices to something of the norm.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: DRUMMA1 on March 31, 2021, 05:28:02 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

JSU AVERAGES OVER 30K no way they will want to drop to JUST AT 30K for their new stadium.

You beat me to it. :nod:

JSU is looking to have a 40K - 45K seat stadium built.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: MilesBear1 on March 31, 2021, 05:40:23 PM
So no Meyers Dome but an Open Air Stadium huh? Cool.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 05:52:04 PM
Tulane started playing in its 30k stadium in 2014 and it cost $75 million.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 05:58:52 PM
University of Houston started playing in its 40k stadium and it cost $128 million.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on March 31, 2021, 06:01:30 PM
Baylor's 45k stadium opened in 2014 cost $266 million.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: DRUMMA1 on March 31, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
So no Meyers Dome but an Open Air Stadium huh? Cool.

The dome is still on the table, especially with federal funding on the table, provided it also serves as an evacuation site.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Jay_Thomas on March 31, 2021, 07:07:16 PM
Baylor's 45k stadium opened in 2014 cost $266 million.



$266 Million?
   :o

Ok so I had to go have a look see at this one.



(https://baylorbears.com/common/controls/image_handler.aspx?thumb_id=0&image_path=/images/2019/10/9/McLaneWeb.jpg)

(https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/photo_images/35285718/454441636.jpg)


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwZsP54CQAAA9rf?format=jpg&name=medium)


https://youtu.be/r8d4FqKLGj8


*whew*
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Que82 on March 31, 2021, 07:24:23 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

They're going to need a little more than that for a FBS 30,000 seat stadium.
????

New Mexico State   Independent   30,343
Georgia Southern   Sun Belt   25,000
North Texas              C-USA   30,850
Liberty                 Independent (2018)   25,000
Tulane   American   30,000
NIU   MAC   23,595
Coastal Carolina   Sun Belt   20,000
San Jose State   Mountain West   30,456
Arkansas State   Sun Belt   30,964
Georgia State   Sun Belt   25,000
San Diego State   Mountain West   27,000
Bowling Green   MAC   24,000
New Mexico   Mountain West   39,224
Florida Atlantic   C-USA   30,000
Miami   MAC   24,286
SMU   American   32,000
Toledo   MAC   26,248
South Alabama   Sun Belt   25,450
Western Kentucky   C-USA   22,113
Akron   MAC   30,000
Texas State   Sun Belt   30,000
Louisiana Tech   C-USA   28,109
Middle Tennessee   C-USA   31,000
Wyoming   Mountain West   29,181
Louisiana-Monroe   Sun Belt   30,427
Central Michigan   MAC   30,255
Appalachian State   Sun Belt   30,000
Old Dominion   C-USA   22,480
Nevada   Mountain West   26,000
Washington State   Pac-12   32,248
Charlotte   C-USA   15,314
Utah State   Mountain West   25,513
Navy   American   34,000
Ohio   MAC   24,000
FIU   C-USA   23,500
Ball State   MAC   22,500
Tulsa   American   30,000[
Wake Forest   ACC   31,500
Buffalo   MAC   29,013
Troy   Sun Belt   30,402
Western Michigan   MAC   30,200
UMass   Independent   17,000

 :shrug: :tiptoe:

The seating is not want I was questioning. I'm aware of plenty FBS stadiums that size. My questioning was whether the $80 million was enough to get a very nice 30,000 FBS facility.
I disagree, Alabama State has  :vomit: a top-notch stadium that they built for 62 mil and they seat 24K.    :shrug:
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Que82 on March 31, 2021, 07:30:13 PM
$80 million sounds reasonable for a 30k stadium.

JSU AVERAGES OVER 30K no way they will want to drop to JUST AT 30K for their new stadium.

You beat me to it. :nod:

JSU is looking to have a 40K - 45K seat stadium built.
I would be very surprised if those Mississippi peckerwoods voluntarily give you enough money to build a 1K stadium but good luck.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: oleschoolaggie on March 31, 2021, 09:22:04 PM

well if the cost "today" is $80 million to build a 30k seat stadium, its only gonna cost even more the longer they wait to build it.  construction costs never go down, it always goes up...
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: BisonBlu on April 01, 2021, 08:14:47 PM
80M may not be enough to build a gleaming new stadium but it may be enough for a amazing renovation and keep their current capacity intact.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: DRUMMA1 on April 01, 2021, 09:31:09 PM
Keep in mind JSU raised quite a bit when the proposed dome was announced in 2014.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: AimHigh on April 01, 2021, 10:26:53 PM
80M may not be enough to build a gleaming new stadium but it may be enough for a amazing renovation and keep their current capacity intact.

You making sense Blu! The only snag is it seems the tradeoff for the funding is the state wants that property for health facilities or something.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on April 01, 2021, 10:46:47 PM
80M may not be enough to build a gleaming new stadium but it may be enough for a amazing renovation and keep their current capacity intact.

You making sense Blu! The only snag is it seems the tradeoff for the funding is the state wants that property for health facilities or something.

The only reason why the State of Mississippi would fund such a project for JSU.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: DRUMMA1 on April 02, 2021, 12:01:47 AM
80M may not be enough to build a gleaming new stadium but it may be enough for a amazing renovation and keep their current capacity intact.

You making sense Blu! The only snag is it seems the tradeoff for the funding is the state wants that property for health facilities or something.

Correct.

That has always been the plan since the state gave control of the stadium to JSU in 2011. UMMC wants the land to emulate the success of UAB in Birmingham. It's been a win-win deal so far.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: AimHigh on April 02, 2021, 11:43:19 AM
JSU should get a better version of this. I am not a fan of the indoor stadium, but hey if it works for Jackson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JzQ1HjQPs
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on April 02, 2021, 11:55:22 AM
Birmingham Protective/UAB stadium opened in 2021.  It seats 45k and cost $174 million.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: JAG89 on April 02, 2021, 12:11:53 PM
San Diego State Aztec Stadium opens in 2022 seats 35k and cost $310 million.
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Jay_Thomas on April 02, 2021, 01:17:24 PM
Birmingham Protective/UAB stadium opened in 2021.  It seats 45k and cost $174 million.


Not bad, Bham. 

https://youtu.be/9EsSoQf5oAg
Title: Re: JSU stadium study among state budget considerations
Post by: Jay_Thomas on April 02, 2021, 01:19:04 PM
https://youtu.be/qo1WdrRJ-Rs