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Title: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: klg14 on March 10, 2021, 04:16:53 PM
South Carolina State’s athletics budget has been sliced by nearly 40 percent. It needs money for scholarships, personnel and Title IX.
https://hbcugameday.com/2021/03/10/south-carolina-state-budget-lagging-behind-meac/
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Jaimac on March 10, 2021, 04:29:02 PM
The HBCU gameday article referred to SCSU's AD as a 'she'.  Stacy Danley is a guy who is a former TU AD.

The web link for the Times and Democrat article is below. 

https://thetandd.com/news/local/scsu-athletics-seeks-additional-1-million-ad-says-money-needed-for-scholarships-positions-title-ix/article_699c19e9-432f-5eda-89a4-61de5f4552e4.html
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: klg14 on March 10, 2021, 04:43:58 PM
The HBCU gameday article referred to SCSU's AD as a 'she'.  Stacy Danley is a guy who is a former TU AD.

The web link for the Times and Democrat article is below. 

https://thetandd.com/news/local/scsu-athletics-seeks-additional-1-million-ad-says-money-needed-for-scholarships-positions-title-ix/article_699c19e9-432f-5eda-89a4-61de5f4552e4.html

Yes. https://www.scsuathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=184
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on March 10, 2021, 05:16:35 PM
Come on back to the SIAC SCSU where you belong. :nod:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: AimHigh on March 10, 2021, 07:01:32 PM
SC State needs to get a piece of the pie in the SWAC.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 10, 2021, 07:08:41 PM
SCSU is fine and dandy.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: DAHILL on March 10, 2021, 07:49:38 PM
SCSU would have never been in the position its in now with Dr. Hugine there.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on March 11, 2021, 08:04:24 AM
I mean is this breaking news. Seriously? We've harped on South Carolina State for over a decade now with their financial instability when in reality there are a few other schools in the MEAC that are in similar situations over that time period but continue to stay on Division I level.

that's all...   :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 11, 2021, 09:13:01 AM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on March 11, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
It says lagging behind MEAC.  :shrug:  SCSU will be ok.  We all have to recover from Covid financially. 
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: KnuckDogg on March 11, 2021, 11:36:28 AM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 11, 2021, 01:09:07 PM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:
????  SCSU budget was lagging before COVID and a lot of it had to do with the state.  Their enrollment was down before COVID and at one point it was stated that they had fewer students than Benedict.  We are not all where SCSU is. I know you are pushing your normal drop-down philosophy but at least find a relevant topic to use it in.  :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 11, 2021, 01:28:34 PM
SCSU would have never been in the position its in now with Dr. Hugine there.
Man don't get me started on this.  Let's just say, Most SCSUers are not as angry as we should be about some of the current affairs at the school. Many of us felt that it served some people right.  Some of these negative affairs were necessary to eliminate certain factions from the university forever.  That has occurred and a new day is dawning.  It'll take time, but like i said, SCSU is fine and dandy.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 11, 2021, 01:56:20 PM
SCSU would have never been in the position its in now with Dr. Hugine there.
IMHO it would have been a serious challenge for Dr. Hugine as well.  These crackers had their sights on getting rid of SCSU all together but there was so much push back about eliminating the only public HBCU in the state that they decided to step back and wait for it to implode. :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 11, 2021, 02:54:32 PM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on March 11, 2021, 09:13:20 PM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.



But they have been div. 1 for years.  They will be fine. 
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: DRUMMA1 on March 11, 2021, 10:11:08 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: KnuckDogg on March 11, 2021, 10:22:13 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: DRUMMA1 on March 11, 2021, 11:07:33 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: WileECoyote06 on March 11, 2021, 11:49:14 PM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.

So, many of the CIAA schools should drop to NAIA?
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: InTheHunt on March 12, 2021, 07:30:56 AM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

And let's no forget the financial mismanagement by SC State administration and trustees...
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 12, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
Its funny when I hear us talking about other schools being in financial trouble. Its like we think our school is doing fine, but these other schools are having problems. HBCUs are all suffering because of the effects of this COVID. Enrollments are down, room and board are down, donations are down, no money from sports revenue, and a whole bunch of broke alumni. SCSU is where we all are. All of us need to rethink the divisions we are in. Just saying...  :shrug:

What do divisions have to do with it? ALL schools are hurting, from D3 to NAIA all the way up to FBS and D1! What good will rethinking divisions do?  :shrug:

Money is the biggest factor in determining what division you should be in. Sure there are others, but you have to be able to pay to compete.

So, many of the CIAA schools should drop to NAIA?

No. But some should drop to DIII.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 12, 2021, 10:41:33 AM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: KnuckDogg on March 12, 2021, 11:08:52 AM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 12, 2021, 02:30:54 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
And wasn't founded until 1896.  SC had no intentions of building a school for us.  They were embarrassed by the success of Claflin, Benedict, and Allen.  As a result, they modeled SCSU after nearby Claflin.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 12, 2021, 02:31:43 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:

A&T's campus looks like an ACC school. And that's with four HBCU State supported schools in the state.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 12, 2021, 11:18:56 PM
I honestly feel bad for SCSU. They have a great heritage and excellent reputation but they are located in one racist *ss state. That state has intentionally neglected the school so bad over the last 50 years to make it appear unattractive to Black students.  The alumni should sue the state to get their millions in what is owed to them.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that SCSU is land grant like Clemson,,,,,,,

Yep. To my understanding, Claflin donated a portion of their land to form SCSU because the state didn't want to provide the land.

It's a damn shame that there is only 1 public HBCU in South Carolina and its poorly funded. It's the definition of systematic racism.

You are 100% right on that point. Their campus should look like NC A&T or NCCU campuses.

It is utterly ridiculous. It's the only public HBCU in South Carolina?!?!? :o :o :o :o :o :shrug:
And wasn't founded until 1896.  SC had no intentions of building a school for us.  They were embarrassed by the success of Claflin, Benedict, and Allen.  As a result, they modeled SCSU after nearby Claflin.
The only way that AAMU and ALST got anything out of the state was to sue.  SCSU should have been lawyered up a long time ago because I know y'all are nowhere near getting the type of funding other state-supported schools of your size are.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: DRUMMA1 on March 12, 2021, 11:32:40 PM
^^^^Same in Mississippi.

Jake Ayers filed the lawsuit in the 70s on behalf of JSU, Alcorn and Valley, the state fought it, Jake died during the process, the Supreme Court sided in his favor in the early 1990s and we didn't begin to get our money until the early 2000s. :no:

The Maryland HBCUs recently sued, too.  Get your damn money, SCSU! :nod:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: cee dog on March 13, 2021, 01:41:59 AM
Alabama A&M and Bama St sued also. Knight vs Alabama


^^^^Same in Mississippi.

Jake Ayers filed the lawsuit in the 70s on behalf of JSU, Alcorn and Valley, the state fought it, Jake died during the process, the Supreme Court sided in his favor in the early 1990s and we didn't begin to get our money until the early 2000s. :no:

The Maryland HBCUs recently sued, too.  Get your damn money, SCSU! :nod:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on March 13, 2021, 06:13:42 AM
The athletic budget at SCSU is a direct reflection of the declining enrollment on campus over the last decade. This surely can not be ignored. Hopefully, some resources can be put together to aid recruitment efforts to get more heads in beds. I promise you that if State could get back to 6k students we’d see a totally different athletic program.

And yes a lawsuit could help enhance their endowment and deferred maintenance issues too. But I’m sure that may come at some cost.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 13, 2021, 11:37:35 AM
To me, this is deeper than an athletic budget but rather the priority is the viability/lifeblood of an HBCU.  As I have heard it said on here before, "You can have a university/college without athletics, but you can't have athletics without a university/college."  At one time SCSU was the place to be for SC Black youth but something has changed. Until SCSU can determine what the cause was the hemorrhaging will continue IMHO.

By the way, SCSU is a long way from "fine and dandy".  Surviving is more like it.

Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on March 13, 2021, 12:04:37 PM
Did they really once have 6,000 students? If so what happened? That sums it up. With so much depending on student fees, there is no way that they can compete with NCCU with 8,000 students and they having only 1,900. Claflin and Benedict have more students.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on March 13, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
ALMIGHTY can you please explain to me why Buddy Pough is STILL ya'll's coach? Do you all owe him money or something?

that's all...    :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: colapanther13 on March 13, 2021, 06:36:00 PM
ALMIGHTY can you please explain to me why Buddy Pough is STILL ya'll's coach? Do you all owe him money or something?

that's all...    :shrug:

I was going to stay out of this but I gotta step in to defend Coach Pough. Why do so many people not like him? I’ve run into the guy a few times in town when I was a student at Claflin and he was always extremely friendly. Also, he’s won several MEAC titles with less to work with than most other MEAC schools.

But all that aside, a new coach won’t solve anything if he’s not going to be given the tools to succeed.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on March 13, 2021, 07:15:36 PM
I was going to stay out of this but I gotta step in to defend Coach Pough. Why do so many people not like him?

Why do you think it's all about people doesn't like him? It has ZERO to do with liking him nor is it personal. It's about what is he doing for this team to succeed. Having Pough there isn't going to do much either. You're just settling and being complacent in the success of the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs were a power in the MEAC decade ago. Now, they are just as stale as a month old bread. They need new energy to that program.


that's all...
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: colapanther13 on March 13, 2021, 07:33:41 PM
I was going to stay out of this but I gotta step in to defend Coach Pough. Why do so many people not like him?

Why do you think it's all about people doesn't like him? It has ZERO to do with liking him nor is it personal. It's about what is he doing for this team to succeed. Having Pough there isn't going to do much either. You're just settling and being complacent in the success of the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs were a power in the MEAC decade ago. Now, they are just as stale as a month old bread. They need new energy to that program.


that's all...

They literally just won a share of the MEAC in 2019. Coach Pough has the smallest budget in the conference to work with and he’s still managed to keep his program competitive. What more do you want from the man? I’ve heard some alumni calling for State to fire Pough as well. And replace him with who? With what budget? And what exactly is this new coach going to do differently? I sure hope he has the connections and relationships with SC high school coaches that Pough has because if not he doesn’t stand a chance.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 14, 2021, 09:53:15 AM
Now, they are just as stale as a month old bread. They need new energy to that program.
:o Do you follow SCSU football? Pough is the defending MEAC COTY and won a share of the MEAC crown in 2019.  He also has the highest graduation rate of all MEAC schools and has more players in the NFL than any other two HBCU's combined.

All of this after having his budget cut by almost half in 2015.

Reassess your judgement of Coach Pough with the aforementioned facts.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: hbcu on March 14, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
SC State please join the SIAC for financial survival.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 14, 2021, 05:27:15 PM
Ok

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Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on March 14, 2021, 06:23:53 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 15, 2021, 04:20:05 AM
SC State please join the SIAC for financial survival.
On a serious note do whatever you need to do to stay open.  We don't need another Morris Brown. :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: colapanther13 on March 15, 2021, 12:50:52 PM
SC State please join the SIAC for financial survival.
On a serious note do whatever you need to do to stay open.  We don't need another Morris Brown. :shrug:

I don’t think SC State will lose their accreditation but if they did, the school wouldn’t close. The political fallout that would come from closing the state’s only public HBCU would be substantial. Worse case scenario, the state takes over and it’ll become USC Orangeburg. But again, I think that’s extremely unlikely.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: JBROB on March 15, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Delaware State 9
SC State 17
final

https://meacsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=nRQxgezKoGA1KgNtSODjQDWx%2fkvpTZNXyw3RM7FIeTFNH8dhEMTJuSz4eQK2S4TraaRMbocaG9ZNzT6a0uq4ACe3L2MfxO0ES%2b5afiKz7d4%3d&path=football
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: JBROB on March 15, 2021, 01:23:57 PM
South Carolina State will win the MEAC this fall.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: JBROB on March 15, 2021, 03:03:23 PM
2021 MEAC Spring Football Delaware State vs South Carolina State
March 13, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v2_YznLsOY&t=3565s
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 15, 2021, 03:50:10 PM
SC State please join the SIAC for financial survival.
On a serious note do whatever you need to do to stay open.  We don't need another Morris Brown. :shrug:

I don’t think SC State will lose their accreditation but if they did, the school wouldn’t close. The political fallout that would come from closing the state’s only public HBCU would be substantial. Worse case scenario, the state takes over and it’ll become USC Orangeburg. But again, I think that’s extremely unlikely.
I don't think they will close either, they would become USC-Orangeburg which was what the state was trying to do in the first place.  If they lose their accreditation this would give the state grounds to take over IMHO. Additionally, if black folks aren't sending their kids to SC State the fallout may not be as great as we think.  I think the fact that it's Clyburn's alma mater has kept them at bay. :shrug:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: colapanther13 on March 15, 2021, 04:09:05 PM
SC State please join the SIAC for financial survival.
On a serious note do whatever you need to do to stay open.  We don't need another Morris Brown. :shrug:

I don’t think SC State will lose their accreditation but if they did, the school wouldn’t close. The political fallout that would come from closing the state’s only public HBCU would be substantial. Worse case scenario, the state takes over and it’ll become USC Orangeburg. But again, I think that’s extremely unlikely.
I don't think they will close either, they would become USC-Orangeburg which was what the state was trying to do in the first place.  If they lose their accreditation this would give the state grounds to take over IMHO. Additionally, if black folks aren't sending their kids to SC State the fallout may not be as great as we think.  I think the fact that it's Clyburn's alma mater has kept them at bay. :shrug:

Enrollment is down for sure, but the alumni network still runs deep. And I mean DEEP. Half of my family graduated from State. If you ask most black non first generation college students in South Carolina, you’ll probably get a similar answer. I’m confident that there are enough SC State alumni to keep these powdery saltines in Columbia from doing anything too crazy.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 15, 2021, 05:54:02 PM
Que and Panther,

The state took over SCSU in 2015 in a round about way.  They got rid of the BOT and instilled their own folks including the current president.  This was done to stabilize the school that had been a battle ground for factions that had not collaborative efforts or visions for the school moving forward.  Now the school has operated in the black the past four years and is currently sitting on a surplus of nearly 18 million.  If you follow SCSU, there is no way in hell the school could have done nothing but stay afloat because it was in the ditch.  Now it is ALMOST out of the ditch onto a bumpy dirt road drench with week's worth of rain.

Sad part is, all of this had to occur in order for the school to move forward.  The folks that were there prior to the 2015 fiasco would have rather seen the school burn down than to do what was right.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: SSUTigerFan on March 15, 2021, 06:32:20 PM
As long as Jim Clyburn is alive....
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 15, 2021, 06:58:12 PM
As long as Jim Clyburn is alive....
Clyburn does not have as much power in SC as he does in DC.  He has, can, and will do things for us (and all HBCUs) on that level. 

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Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Golden Kitten on March 15, 2021, 07:18:07 PM
Thanks for explaining Almighty. Sounds eerily similar to Mo Brown...
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: SSUTigerFan on March 15, 2021, 09:04:46 PM
Que and Panther,

The state took over SCSU in 2015 in a round about way.  They got rid of the BOT and instilled their own folks including the current president.  This was done to stabilize the school that had been a battle ground for factions that had not collaborative efforts or visions for the school moving forward.  Now the school has operated in the black the past four years and is currently sitting on a surplus of nearly 18 million.  If you follow SCSU, there is no way in hell the school could have done nothing but stay afloat because it was in the ditch.  Now it is ALMOST out of the ditch onto a bumpy dirt road drench with week's worth of rain.

Sad part is, all of this had to occur in order for the school to move forward.  The folks that were there prior to the 2015 fiasco would have rather seen the school burn down than to do what was right.

Almighty, SCSU is not the only HBCU that has/still has piss poor leadership.  Look what happened when past administration moved us to D1.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 15, 2021, 11:07:21 PM
Que and Panther,

The state took over SCSU in 2015 in a round about way.  They got rid of the BOT and instilled their own folks including the current president.  This was done to stabilize the school that had been a battle ground for factions that had not collaborative efforts or visions for the school moving forward.  Now the school has operated in the black the past four years and is currently sitting on a surplus of nearly 18 million.  If you follow SCSU, there is no way in hell the school could have done nothing but stay afloat because it was in the ditch.  Now it is ALMOST out of the ditch onto a bumpy dirt road drench with week's worth of rain.

Sad part is, all of this had to occur in order for the school to move forward.  The folks that were there prior to the 2015 fiasco would have rather seen the school burn down than to do what was right.
Glad to hear you guys are getting your footing again.  Is there any sort of strategic plan to get SCSU back to the levels of enrollment it used to enjoy????  It baffles me why enrollment is so low if the Alumni base is so strong. Where are they going????  :shrug: 
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: colapanther13 on March 16, 2021, 09:30:21 AM
Que and Panther,

The state took over SCSU in 2015 in a round about way.  They got rid of the BOT and instilled their own folks including the current president.  This was done to stabilize the school that had been a battle ground for factions that had not collaborative efforts or visions for the school moving forward.  Now the school has operated in the black the past four years and is currently sitting on a surplus of nearly 18 million.  If you follow SCSU, there is no way in hell the school could have done nothing but stay afloat because it was in the ditch.  Now it is ALMOST out of the ditch onto a bumpy dirt road drench with week's worth of rain.

Sad part is, all of this had to occur in order for the school to move forward.  The folks that were there prior to the 2015 fiasco would have rather seen the school burn down than to do what was right.
Glad to hear you guys are getting your footing again.  Is there any sort of strategic plan to get SCSU back to the levels of enrollment it used to enjoy????  It baffles me why enrollment is so low if the Alumni base is so strong. Where are they going????  :shrug:

For me it came down to State not having the program I wanted. And it’s funny because State has been a part of my life since I can remember. I can’t even tell you how many games I went to growing up and I’ve toured the campus a hand full of times. I dreamed of becoming a Bulldog when I was a kid. But when it came time to choose schools, I knew what I wanted to do for a career and I knew State wouldn’t be an option. So for me, the next best thing was going to school next door. I still got to go to all the football games I wanted and the 300+ member Marching 101 could be heard loud and clear from anywhere on campus. And I wasn’t the only one either. It was a common occurrence for Claflin students to cross the fence and enjoy the activities next door. Not sure if that’s still a thing today but back then we were definitely one big happy HBCU family.
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on March 16, 2021, 11:39:22 AM
Thank you ALMIGHTY for the clarification and the education on your alma mater! That's why I called you out specifically because I know you would be more in the know of what's happening at South Carolina State. Like I stated before, it was nothing personal about Pough. I just think South Carolina State isn't in the conversations as decades past when HBCU alums talking about the teams to beat. But that's not here nor there.

that's all...
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: ALMIGHTY on March 17, 2021, 08:49:35 AM
Glad to hear you guys are getting your footing again.  Is there any sort of strategic plan to get SCSU back to the levels of enrollment it used to enjoy????  It baffles me why enrollment is so low if the Alumni base is so strong. Where are they going????  :shrug:
They have a strategic plan to boost enrollment, but get this, we did not have an admission director or a VP for Institutional Advancement for nearly two years!  The president admitted that "he dropped the ball" on this.  However, enrollment is up by 400 since our admission director was hired in 2019.

On another note, we had a president that had a robust strategic plan that would have revitalize every aspect of the university. He was hugely popular an had the overwhelming support of the Alumni. He was ran off by the same idiot BOT members that the state had to replaced in 2015. Anyways, I heard he took is plan elsewhere and it worked out well.  :)
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: thatd@mnYOGI on March 17, 2021, 09:45:55 AM
we did not have an admission director or a VP for Institutional Advancement for nearly two years!  The president admitted that "he dropped the ball" on this. 

WHAT?? There wasn't an interim person in the position? How do you drop the ball for something that is the lifeblood of your institution for TWO YEARS?? :shrug:

that's all...
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: Que82 on March 17, 2021, 07:50:52 PM
Glad to hear you guys are getting your footing again.  Is there any sort of strategic plan to get SCSU back to the levels of enrollment it used to enjoy????  It baffles me why enrollment is so low if the Alumni base is so strong. Where are they going????  :shrug:
They have a strategic plan to boost enrollment, but get this, we did not have an admission director or a VP for Institutional Advancement for nearly two years!  The president admitted that "he dropped the ball" on this.  However, enrollment is up by 400 since our admission director was hired in 2019.

On another note, we had a president that had a robust strategic plan that would have revitalize every aspect of the university. He was hugely popular an had the overwhelming support of the Alumni. He was ran off by the same idiot BOT members that the state had to replaced in 2015. Anyways, I heard he took is plan elsewhere and it worked out well.  :)
very well  :lol:
Title: Re: South Carolina State budget lagging behind MEAC
Post by: KnuckDogg on March 17, 2021, 08:57:00 PM
I hope that SCSU alumni can hit each and every public school in South Carolina and put a bid in for SCSU. I remember SCSU had a contingent of alumni visit Grady High School in the ATL when I was the band director back in 2009 or 2010, and of course I was struttin' my NSU talking siht to allovem, :snicker all in good humor! they were able to get 3 students from my band to go to SCSU and march in their band as well, and I was so proud of them! I got to see them perform when they played at Ga Tech,,,,,,I forgot the year. But my point is, that direct recruiting works wonders, and I hope they continue to do that! :nod: :popcorn: