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Title: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: AimHigh on November 08, 2020, 10:45:24 PM
HBCUGameday: https://hbcugameday.com/2020/11/08/norfolk-state-may-have-to-make-difficult-choices/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3a_uT6u-FM
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: eagle pride on November 08, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
Man, we don't need this type of news right now.  NSU may need to stay put until these uncertain times have past.  Who knows, we may get others to join.  Maybe it's me, but it doesn't sound like they are making a move to leave, just having their options in please in case they need to. 
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Bison 4 Life on November 09, 2020, 08:11:24 AM
HBCU Gameday needs to be careful with these clickbait articles.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: WileECoyote06 on November 09, 2020, 08:22:27 AM
Only a 1.8 million dollar shortfall is great considering the current circumstances. 

It looks like they are just examining their options, much like every school in FCS should be doing.  It's much more likely that they decide not to play sports in the spring.  I don't view the information presented as a 'vote' to leave the MEAC.

Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Jay_Thomas on November 09, 2020, 08:43:33 AM
Nothing wrong with considering options.

the plot thickens?  Time will tell.


 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: 81alphaeagle on November 09, 2020, 10:43:57 AM
HBCU Gameday needs to be careful with these clickbait articles.
Correct.  These jokers don't do enough to know that Bishop Kim Brown is not a SHE.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Jay_Thomas on November 09, 2020, 10:46:35 AM
 :lol: thats that two-dollar-journalism  ;D
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Professor on November 09, 2020, 10:55:41 AM
Thomas and the conference leadership needs to put their plan out to the members so they will feel comfortable. This isn't a good article
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Bison 4 Life on November 09, 2020, 11:33:56 AM
In this economic  climate?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 09, 2020, 11:58:34 AM
All our schools are doing some serious thinking. In fact every school in America is doing some serious thinking.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: AimHigh on November 09, 2020, 12:41:56 PM
BOARD OF VISITORS / BOARD MEETING / ELECTRONIC MEETING
October 16, 2020
MINUTES

"Bishop Brown stated that NSU will remain sensitive to try to remain in a football playing conference. Football and basketball are the two sports that are the lion’s share of NSU’s budget. The Board may have to make some difficult choices before the 20-21 athletic year ends."

https://www.nsu.edu/getattachment/About/Leadership-and-Initiatives/Office-of-the-President/Board-of-Visitors/Agenda-and-Minutes/Agenda-Minutes-2020/Board-Minutes-October-16,-2020.pdf.aspx?lang=en-US
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: eagle pride on November 09, 2020, 02:19:58 PM
Putting everything in context, this was the response to a question regarding the MEAC.

"In response to Ms. Blunt regarding if the MEAC crashed today, what would be the options
for NSU? Bishop Brown stated the options that are available include:
• Back up to a lower level conference membership.
• Realigning with conference memberships on the same level that we are already on.
• Soliciting schools that will quickly align with us in the MEAC."
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: westcoastaggie on November 09, 2020, 02:21:26 PM
HBCU Gameday needs to be careful with these clickbait articles.

B4L, this isn’t clickbait. “Weighing Options” doesn’t equate to “Leaving the MEAC(?)”
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: WileECoyote06 on November 09, 2020, 02:36:14 PM
:lol: thats that two-dollar-journalism  ;D

Good karma for both of you.   :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 09, 2020, 06:25:58 PM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Bison 4 Life on November 09, 2020, 10:53:54 PM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

Hell , if this recession drags on for two or more quarters sports conferences will be the least of our problems.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: BisonBlu on November 10, 2020, 06:58:45 AM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

Hell , if this recession drags on for two or more quarters sports conferences will be the least of our problems.

I completely agree. This is time where organizational restructuring will occur on all levels. I’m truly hopeful that we come out stronger from this. But I’m not naive enough to this that there won’t be casualties along the way.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 10, 2020, 09:28:14 AM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

Hell , if this recession drags on for two or more quarters sports conferences will be the least of our problems.

Amen brother!
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: punchy on November 12, 2020, 10:29:26 AM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

Hell , if this recession drags on for two or more quarters sports conferences will be the least of our problems.

Amen brother!

I mean, Stanford dropped a lot of sports, and I read that Clemson dropped track and field. If these rich schools can and will do that,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Jay_Thomas on November 12, 2020, 12:22:41 PM
Punchy.....indeed, brother.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Rich Eagle on November 12, 2020, 06:25:21 PM
I hate for these words to come from my mouth, but the casualty may be the MEAC. I hope not. :brickwall:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Decks on November 12, 2020, 11:52:45 PM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

True. All universities are weighing their options. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: 81alphaeagle on November 13, 2020, 06:27:58 AM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

True. All universities are weighing their options. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
It is time the NCAA change its division requirements.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 13, 2020, 08:38:11 AM
Another thing to think about... even if some of our schools can somehow keep things together, if most of the other schools in our conferences stop playing sports, who will we play? The HBCUs that remain might have to join together to create a new conference or two. This would be a challenge because of the distance the remaining schools would have to each other. I hate to say this but A&T and Hampton might have seen something in the clouds when they jumped ship to the Big South. The HBCUs that remain might have to join the PWS that remain to form new conferences.

Sooner or later most of our school would return to playing sports. But HBCU conferences would be long gone.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Professor on November 13, 2020, 09:43:33 AM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

True. All universities are weighing their options. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
It is time the NCAA change its division requirements.

Change requirements to what
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: 81alphaeagle on November 13, 2020, 04:44:01 PM
We all have a tendency to look at potential bad news about other schools as them being the only ones that it can happen to. The reality is that "All" our schools were barely making it before this virus. Trust me, your school is also looking in their wallets and weighing their options. If the very wealthy bigs schools are struggling, why would you think our schools aren't? s**t getting ready to hit the fan for a lot of us. Just wait and see.

True. All universities are weighing their options. Nothing would surprise me at this point.
It is time the NCAA change its division requirements.

Change requirements to what
Number of required sports.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: MilesBear1 on November 13, 2020, 07:17:31 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: AimHigh on November 13, 2020, 07:41:01 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: MilesBear1 on November 13, 2020, 07:55:35 PM
Make sense. :nod:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: punchy on November 14, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: AimHigh on November 14, 2020, 08:47:07 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?

Of course, you know you can count on the CIAA if NSU wanted to come home.

The question is, what does NSU want?
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: eagle pride on November 14, 2020, 10:26:29 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?



I think once this virus is over, the MEAC will be ok.  The MEAC was spread out too far, hence the reason some schools left.  A smaller MEAC should help with traveling budgets, and more attractive for schools in NC, Va, Maryland, etc. that want to join.   
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: punchy on November 15, 2020, 01:31:49 AM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?

Of course, you know you can count on the CIAA if NSU wanted to come home.

The question is, what does NSU want?

I think we want to remain in the MEAC. But it has to be viable, and it has to make sense, :nod: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: TrueTrojan on November 15, 2020, 04:37:25 AM
Come on home, SPARTANS!!!
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: BrotherWiregrass on November 15, 2020, 07:09:13 AM
It's nothing wrong with stepping down, and staying in your lane.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 15, 2020, 09:45:50 AM
Folks, again, NSU ain't the only HBCU having problems. Who said there will be a CIAA to come back to? Most CIAA schools are in worse shape than NSU...maybe including my WSSU Rams. We will lose some schools because of this virus. And I'm not just talking about sports. This could be the beginning of the end for HBCUs as we know them. We will need to see how our enrollments and student loans are holding up. Also, funding from both public and private will be dramatically reduced in the next few years. So what gets lost during this time will be gone forever.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Bison 4 Life on November 15, 2020, 10:11:14 AM
Folks, again, NSU ain't the only HBCU having problems. Who said there will be a CIAA to come back to? Most CIAA schools are in worse shape than NSU...maybe including my WSSU Rams. We will lose some schools because of this virus. And I'm not just talking about sports. This could be the beginning of the end for HBCUs as we know them. We will need to see how our enrollments and student loans are holding up. Also, funding from both public and private will be dramatically reduced in the next few years. So what gets lost during this time will be gone forever.

I have to agree with this. Judging from America's horrid COVID 10 response and the economic impact you can rule out there being sports for all of 2021. Alot depends on what states buy in to Biden COVID relief plan early. The governor of Mississippi already said the state will ignore any mask mandates.So as state coffers go dry from lack of much sales tax revenue , outlays for employees , services and projects like school funding will be hit.HBCUs will be hit hard.

A contracted MEAC is beneficial because fewer members to send fewer dollars. At worst we may have to shut athletic department for a time.

Hope I'm wrong. :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Que82 on November 15, 2020, 09:46:28 PM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?
Will the CIAA accept you???? What were you sipping on when you posted this?  :lol:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Que82 on November 15, 2020, 09:49:28 PM
We need to eliminated all those sports that keep us on probation.  ::) :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: punchy on November 17, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
So what Conference is NSU looking to join?

The no-brainer is the Big South.

Depends on whether or not the MEAC remains viable, and we stay D1-FCS. IMHO, if the MEAC dissolves, we will probably apply to the Big South or the CAA. The question is, will the Big South or CAA accept us? If we move back down to D2, we will apply to the CIAA. The question is, will the CIAA accept us?
Will the CIAA accept you???? What were you sipping on when you posted this?  :lol:

I was sippin' on some Apple Pie!  ;D :nod: :lmao: But seriously, tho',,,,,,we left the CIAA over 20 years ago, and I can't remember if we left the CIAA on good terms or bad terms,,,,,,,so,,,,,but I tend to think that we will remain in the MEAC, and try to entice some Big South teams to come over to the MEAC because I hear the A-Sun might be taking some Big South teams. I hope the Big South don't take any more MEAC teams!
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Jay_Thomas on November 17, 2020, 12:52:45 PM
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I hope the Big South don't take any more MEAC teams!




I hope that they don't either.  I really hope A&T and Hampton decide to RETURN TO THE MEAC!
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 17, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
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I hope the Big South don't take any more MEAC teams!




I hope that they don't either.  I really hope A&T and Hampton decide to RETURN TO THE MEAC!

Now that would be the best option. Regardless of what I say about those dogs from Greensboro, A&T are the class of HBCU football right now. Getting them back would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: westcoastaggie on November 17, 2020, 03:05:05 PM
Folks, again, NSU ain't the only HBCU having problems. Who said there will be a CIAA to come back to? Most CIAA schools are in worse shape than NSU...maybe including my WSSU Rams. We will lose some schools because of this virus. And I'm not just talking about sports. This could be the beginning of the end for HBCUs as we know them. We will need to see how our enrollments and student loans are holding up. Also, funding from both public and private will be dramatically reduced in the next few years. So what gets lost during this time will be gone forever.

I have to agree with this. Judging from America's horrid COVID 10 response and the economic impact you can rule out there being sports for all of 2021. Alot depends on what states buy in to Biden COVID relief plan early. The governor of Mississippi already said the state will ignore any mask mandates.So as state coffers go dry from lack of much sales tax revenue , outlays for employees , services and projects like school funding will be hit.HBCUs will be hit hard.

A contracted MEAC is beneficial because fewer members to send fewer dollars. At worst we may have to shut athletic department for a time.

Hope I'm wrong. :tiptoe:

If HBCUs survived Jim Crow, they'll survive Covid-19.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: eagle pride on November 17, 2020, 05:42:38 PM
^^^ :clap:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Ram55 on November 18, 2020, 07:48:11 AM
Folks, again, NSU ain't the only HBCU having problems. Who said there will be a CIAA to come back to? Most CIAA schools are in worse shape than NSU...maybe including my WSSU Rams. We will lose some schools because of this virus. And I'm not just talking about sports. This could be the beginning of the end for HBCUs as we know them. We will need to see how our enrollments and student loans are holding up. Also, funding from both public and private will be dramatically reduced in the next few years. So what gets lost during this time will be gone forever.

I have to agree with this. Judging from America's horrid COVID 10 response and the economic impact you can rule out there being sports for all of 2021. Alot depends on what states buy in to Biden COVID relief plan early. The governor of Mississippi already said the state will ignore any mask mandates.So as state coffers go dry from lack of much sales tax revenue , outlays for employees , services and projects like school funding will be hit.HBCUs will be hit hard.

A contracted MEAC is beneficial because fewer members to send fewer dollars. At worst we may have to shut athletic department for a time.

Hope I'm wrong. :tiptoe:

If HBCUs survived Jim Crow, they'll survive Covid-19.

Funny.  Jim Crow conditionsis what created HBCUs.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: MilesBear1 on November 18, 2020, 12:43:33 PM
@JayThomas, Why would A&T and Hampton want to return to the MEAC? No Backward Steps. It was a reason why they left the MEAC.
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: Jay_Thomas on November 18, 2020, 12:47:58 PM
I'm just saying 'IF'....sometimes, some moves DO NOT work out. Ask WSSU, Savannah State. Ask the smaller colleges who started the SWAC. I hope all works out for both the Aggies and Pirates.  
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: eagle pride on November 18, 2020, 02:30:56 PM
@JayThomas, Why would A&T and Hampton want to return to the MEAC? No Backward Steps. It was a reason why they left the MEAC.


I thought one of the main reason was travel.  I haven't read much negative statements towards the MEAC as a reason for leaving.  Both left because they think it's best for their schools. Maybe, maybe not. :shrug:  Both left begging to play MEAC schools though. :shrug:
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: oleschoolaggie on November 18, 2020, 02:34:11 PM
I hope the Big South don't take any more MEAC teams!

i pray (http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m201/wearingsa/MEACFansZone/pray.gif) that a&t will return to the meac...
Title: Re: Norfolk State weighing MEAC options
Post by: westcoastaggie on November 18, 2020, 03:02:37 PM
@JayThomas, Why would A&T and Hampton want to return to the MEAC? No Backward Steps. It was a reason why they left the MEAC.


I thought one of the main reason was travel.  I haven't read much negative statements towards the MEAC as a reason for leaving.  Both left because they think it's best for their schools. Maybe, maybe not. :shrug:  Both left begging to play MEAC schools though. :shrug:

Travel wasn’t the only reason.