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Title: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: EPJr on February 06, 2020, 11:12:17 AM
Eddie Wooten @EddieWootenNR
 
@NCATAGGIES expected to announce Friday that it will leave the MEAC to join the Big South Conference. Story from staff writer
@JeffMillsNR
. #AggiePride

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 06, 2020, 11:13:30 AM
Cool.  Just posted it on the A&T and Hampton schedule threads along with my own "Best excuse" thread.   Oh no!  They will really be "we're above y'all......."
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 11:16:53 AM
Cool.  Just posted it on the A&T and Hampton schedule threads along with my own
Best excuse thread.
Best excuse thread?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: WileECoyote06 on February 06, 2020, 11:19:10 AM
Definitely a gutpunch to the MEAC.

Losing two flagship schools in two years.  With BCU's financial trouble, and SCSU climbing out of the hole is this the death knell we've predicting for years?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 06, 2020, 11:27:15 AM
GOOD!  Bet A&T will be willing to play WSSU now.  ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Warpaint on February 06, 2020, 11:27:26 AM
I wonder would the MEAC teams black ball A&T?  That Aggie Pride loyalty of showing up to games might be tested without regular games against Central, SC State, and FAMU.  But who knows maybe new rivalries with Gardner Webb and Campbell might really get fans out to the games...
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on February 06, 2020, 11:44:44 AM


We can always get new members to replace what's lost.






Like.......????   :shrug:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 11:49:02 AM
Where's the lie?

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Olde Hornet on February 06, 2020, 12:06:16 PM
I am concerned about the future of the MEAC.

Good luck to NCAT!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 12:13:01 PM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 06, 2020, 12:14:49 PM
Eddie Wooten @EddieWootenNR
 
@NCATAGGIES expected to announce Friday that it will leave the MEAC to join the Big South Conference. Story from staff writer
@JeffMillsNR
. #AggiePride

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 12:31:19 PM
I wonder would the MEAC teams black ball A&T?  That Aggie Pride loyalty of showing up to games might be tested without regular games against Central, SC State, and FAMU.  But who knows maybe new rivalries with Gardner Webb and Campbell might really get fans out to the games...
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to attendance post. There's a reason that TNSU has an agreement to play  a schedule amount of hbcu games.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 12:32:18 PM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on February 06, 2020, 12:33:49 PM
No more $500,000 Celebration Bowl payouts. I did not think that it was a good move for Hampton and I think it is a worse move for North Carolina A & T. I hope that North Carolina Central University will not join them.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*

The Big South doesn't look that stable.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 12:51:01 PM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*

The Big South doesn't look that stable.
Yeah well that's been obvious for quite sometime.  Ironically when it's all said and done. We may see a new version of white flight and either the emergence of another hbcu conference (albeit defacto) or simply a change in geographic location for the meac.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 12:53:06 PM
 :nod:
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*

The Big South doesn't look that stable.
Yeah well that's been obvious for quite sometime.  Ironically when it's all said and done. We may see a new version of white flight and either the emergence of another hbcu conference (albeit defacto) or simply a change in geographic location for the meac.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 06, 2020, 01:14:23 PM
Cool.  Just posted it on the A&T and Hampton schedule threads along with my own
Best excuse thread.
Best excuse thread?

I gather that you have seen it by now.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 06, 2020, 01:15:12 PM
GOOD!  Bet A&T will be willing to play WSSU now.  ;D

I guess you didn't read my post.  ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Warpaint on February 06, 2020, 01:25:34 PM
I wonder would the MEAC teams black ball A&T?  That Aggie Pride loyalty of showing up to games might be tested without regular games against Central, SC State, and FAMU.  But who knows maybe new rivalries with Gardner Webb and Campbell might really get fans out to the games...
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to attendance post. There's a reason that TNSU has an agreement to play  a schedule amount of hbcu games.

It's called sarcasm
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 06, 2020, 01:28:53 PM
I wonder would the MEAC teams black ball A&T?  That Aggie Pride loyalty of showing up to games might be tested without regular games against Central, SC State, and FAMU.  But who knows maybe new rivalries with Gardner Webb and Campbell might really get fans out to the games...
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to attendance post. There's a reason that TNSU has an agreement to play  a schedule amount of hbcu games.

It's called sarcasm
Okay I'm gonna need you to take a drink. Because  I know dry sarcasm. You seem to have visited a dessert
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 06, 2020, 01:35:07 PM


We can always get new members to replace what's lost.






Like.......????   :shrug:

Like who?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Warpaint on February 06, 2020, 01:49:34 PM
I wonder would the MEAC teams black ball A&T?  That Aggie Pride loyalty of showing up to games might be tested without regular games against Central, SC State, and FAMU.  But who knows maybe new rivalries with Gardner Webb and Campbell might really get fans out to the games...
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to attendance post. There's a reason that TNSU has an agreement to play  a schedule amount of hbcu games.

It's called sarcasm
Okay I'm gonna need you to take a drink. Because  I know dry sarcasm. You seem to have visited a dessert

I can agree with you on that point. ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 01:52:26 PM
Are we going to save that much money on travel?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: KHawk on February 06, 2020, 01:56:41 PM
Am I missing something here?  The Big South Conference is not a big deal.  They are not a real step-up from the MEAC.  They have 11 schools and only four play football.  They have small mostly not widely known of schools.  What's the big deal?  If your're going to move up at least try to get into the AAC with East Carolina, Memphis, UConn, Houston, etc.  I just don't get it. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: aggie law on February 06, 2020, 02:06:31 PM
The BigSouth has been a stepping stone to FBS....  :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 06, 2020, 02:09:02 PM
GOOD!  Bet A&T will be willing to play WSSU now.  ;D

If they do this we wouldn't want to play them. Part of our wanting to play them was the history of us both being local HBCUs. In our eyes they would no longer exist. When their attendance starts to fall is a year or so, they will be begging to get back in and play in Winston. Who wants to see the Big South? And who in the Big South is willing to bring fans to Greensboro?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 06, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Am I missing something here?  The Big South Conference is not a big deal.  They are not a real step-up from the MEAC.  They have 11 schools and only four play football.  They have small mostly not widely known of schools.  What's the big deal?  If your're going to move up at least try to get into the AAC with East Carolina, Memphis, UConn, Houston, etc.  I just don't get it.

No HBCU is FBS ready right now.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CEME2 on February 06, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
Nobody will want NCCU Eagles.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: aggie law on February 06, 2020, 02:15:19 PM
Maybe in a few years we will be FBS ready. UNCG has over 19,000 students. :shrug:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Warpaint on February 06, 2020, 02:23:37 PM
The BigSouth has been a stepping stone to FBS....  :tiptoe:

Coastal and Liberty did it.  However, if I was y'all I would try to follow the Elon and VMI route and use this as a stepping stone to another FCS conference like the SOCON.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 06, 2020, 02:33:59 PM
I just shared this with an "Ancient" Aggie fan. Not knowing the Big South, I sent Hampton's schedule to her.  She fainted! ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 06, 2020, 02:47:16 PM
Nobody will want NCCU Eagles.


 :lol: The Big South is just one more HBCU from everybody leaving for another conference. Kind of like when to many of us move in their neighborhoods. When they have their conference gatherings, everybody is going to ask "who invited them".   :lol:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 02:48:03 PM
A&T has an enrollment goal of 30% non African-American students.  This decision seems to be in line that.

A&T Preeminence:Taking the Momentum to 2023

http://online.anyflip.com/viaf/gpih/mobile/index.html#p=21

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 06, 2020, 02:57:23 PM
A&T has an enrollment goal of 30% non African-American students.  This decision seems to be in line that.

A&T Preeminence:Taking the Momentum to 2023

http://online.anyflip.com/viaf/gpih/mobile/index.html#p=21

Page 21

Again, what mostly white schools will likely go to events that has 70% black participation?... none They will be on an island.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: The Truth on February 06, 2020, 03:03:14 PM
All of you can celebrate our departure so you will have a better chance to win. We are done here.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 03:17:37 PM
A&T has an enrollment goal of 30% non African-American students.  This decision seems to be in line that.

A&T Preeminence:Taking the Momentum to 2023

http://online.anyflip.com/viaf/gpih/mobile/index.html#p=21

Page 21

Again, what mostly white schools will likely go to events that has 70% black participation?... none They will be on an island.

It's not just white.  We are looking for a more diverse student body.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ‘87 Alum on February 06, 2020, 03:47:20 PM
Assuming this is for all sports.....
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 06, 2020, 03:52:39 PM
Assuming this is for all sports.....


Except bowling....
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Eagle Banker on February 06, 2020, 04:17:22 PM
Best Wishes. Nothing changes for US....!!! You will still play us each year for revenue purposes so our rivalry will remain in tact.


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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 06, 2020, 04:43:51 PM
I think this is a slap in black folks faces and a&t should be ashamed of themselves.  I wouldn't cry one tear if we stop playing them. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CU1994 on February 06, 2020, 04:52:30 PM
I have to admit, I have been a big A&T fan since 2012 when my daughter went there. I had no problem driving down 81 to see them play. I go to several games a year. I ain’t driving down 81 to see them play Gardner f---ing Webb.  :nono2:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 06, 2020, 05:15:27 PM
I have to admit, I have been a big A&T fan since 2012 when my daughter went there. I had no problem driving down 81 to see them play. I go to several games a year. I ain’t driving down 81 to see them play Gardner f---ing Webb.  :nono2:

A fan of A&T would.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CU1994 on February 06, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
Nope, got to get a new team. Morgan or NCCU. I am an unrestricted free agent.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on February 06, 2020, 05:39:45 PM
Nope, got to get a new team. Morgan or NCCU. I am an unrestricted free agent.

It this wasn’t so painful for me that chit would be funny.

All I can hope for now is that NCCU, NSU, and SCSU will join us.

I know y’all got to be tired of traveling to Florida and Delaware.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 06, 2020, 06:20:58 PM
Is this a done deal? 

"The move is pending approval of A&T’s board of trustees, which meets Friday morning. If that approval happens, A&T plans to hold a news conference at 10 a.m. Friday to formally announce the change of leagues, according to a source inside the university who spoke on condition of anonymity."
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on February 06, 2020, 06:35:14 PM
A&T vs NCCU is not going anywhere.   We will continue that game as long as there is an A&TSU and NCCU.   Best wishes to the Aggies, our long standing rivals.  Do what you have to do in fulfilling your business model.  We will still go after that dog tail because that is the only interest we can have in that fight.   :bow: :bow: :nod: :nod: :bow: :bow:  We have to await the decision of their BOT come Friday.  A&T has a very good board that gathered all the figures, prognostics prior to making this leap, i'm sure.   Smart folk who will not be second guessed by me- whichever way they vote. 

   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 06, 2020, 07:00:05 PM
A&T vs NCCU is not going anywhere.   We will continue that game as long as there is an A&TSU and NCCU.   Best wishes to the Aggies, our long standing rivals.  Do what you have to do in fulfilling your business model.  We will still go after that dog tail because that is the only interest we can have in that fight.   :bow: :bow: :nod: :nod: :bow: :bow:  We have to await the decision of their BOT come Friday.  A&T has a very good board that gathered all the figures, prognostics prior to making this leap, i'm sure.   Smart folk who will not be second guessed by me- whichever way they vote. 

 




Don't count on it.  Being in two different conferences can be difficult to schedule.  I will not complain about not playing them.  It was their choice to leave.  Be honest, I feel no HBCU should play them.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: SSUTigerFan on February 06, 2020, 08:17:40 PM
I am sure the Chancellor would not have scheduled a news conference had he not have the votes to make the move.  I regret their leaving.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: DRUMMA1 on February 06, 2020, 08:33:16 PM
:no:

:tiptoe:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 06, 2020, 09:11:54 PM
I don't understand you people. When Hampton did it, y'all spent a year calling them a sell-out, now you are wishing A&T well.  :shrug: There is nothing wrong with the MEAC, other than it's made up of poor HBCUs. This is another example of black folk running away from other black folk because they somehow feel they deserve better.  If we keep doing this crap, we are never going to have things we can call our own.  There comes a point where black are going to have to stop being all inclusive, and leave the stragglers behind. In the case of the MEAC, we are talking about schools that probably should be in the Ciaa.

As a community, we allow the losers to pull down the entire community because we feel it is the godly thing to do.  When they become too much trouble, we abandon them.

I'm not feeling this A&T. I would rather you not chase white folk and stay true to your traditions, natural rivals, and culture. At the end of the day, those white folk ain't going to love you, unless you are making them look good.

What so bad about forgetting about rankings, and ignore white folk by playing  each other?  If the athletes are good, they are going to make it to the pros regardless of who is on the schedule. I guess A&T feels  the white man's conference is going to be more attractive when trying to recruit.  :shrug: I don't think so. Those kids who refuse to attend an A&T in the MEAC are not going to attend an A&T in the Big South.  I guess I will have to find another adopted HBCU to support.  :(
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: DRUMMA1 on February 06, 2020, 09:28:01 PM
Capler, my sentiments exactly. Integration destroyed a lot of Black establishments, high schools, sports and communities. :no:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Grillmaster33 on February 06, 2020, 09:32:23 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 06, 2020, 10:03:52 PM
I feel like I did when Trump won the election. >:(  I lost so much respect for Hampton, and now a&t... :shrug:  I pray that Central doesn't follow them. 

Cap,
Are you suggesting that the CIAA schools are not broke or have more money than MEAC schools?  I am responding to your comment that we should be in the CIAA... 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 06, 2020, 10:30:29 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 06, 2020, 10:38:28 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.

I doubt we drive to Hampton or Charleston on a Saturday morning for a football game. There will still be hotel stays.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 06, 2020, 10:57:00 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maxell on February 06, 2020, 11:55:19 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference
Many people also thought those four A&T freshmen were crazy 60 years ago. Their professors and friends said don't do it. They did it anyway.  That's what AGGIES DO.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 01:26:22 AM
It's no more than what I predicted would happen when the celebration bowl agreement was made.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 01:37:27 AM


Many people also thought those four A&T freshmen were crazy 60 years ago. Their professors and friends said don't do it. They did it anyway.  That's what AGGIES DO.

What are you talking about.

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 07, 2020, 02:43:47 AM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference

I'm not a fan of this move but understand the reasons. Be careful throwing rocks because nccu  and/or nsu will be the next to move over to BSC.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 04:04:46 AM
The more I read some of these comments. It seem as if y'all trying to kick the Florida schools to the curb.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on February 07, 2020, 05:46:25 AM
I imagine a move by the largest Historical BCU in the country having a ripple effect upon those still in the traditional setting mandated by laws and codes that created African Americans Colleges and Universities in the first place. Conferences are rethinking past faux pas and  A&T today would be a welcomed affiliate for conferences with similar sized schools in a few hours drive from East Greensboro. Increasing  local and regional corporate sponsorships in their athletic business model as a goal,
   A&T seemingly is treading in that direction.  Not smart enough to predict this outcome, hoping it doesn't end up with A&T pushing their cart and pulling it too on home and away games relative to revenue.  Schools love scheduling teams with a fan base that travels and the Aggies fit those expectations away from home but their future counterparts lack reciprocity on return trips.  Who knows what deals on the tube may await this move and newer ways of reaping revenue.    What I do like about those Aggies is not waiting and debating making a buck.  Beer and wine sales at games.   All of the others in conference formed a committee to look at the venture, then an AD HOC committee to look at the committee formed, then a wait a see what happens and maybe it will be taken up after meeting the the pastors in town, etc, etc.  Aggies sold it at football games this past fall and now at the basketball games.   MO MONEY.  I respect efforts from  capable staff and the leadership currently on Market Street.   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Olde Hornet on February 07, 2020, 06:34:43 AM
NCAT is making the move that works for them, others will do the same.   If that means staying or switching conferences (PWI or HBCU).  This seems to be a well run university, I wish other HBCUs were run as well.   More HBCUs will close in this decade because of poor management and clinging to past instead of making moves that focus on the future.  :tiptoe:

I wish them the best and will continue to support them.   :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: soflorattler on February 07, 2020, 06:43:53 AM
The more I read some of these comments. It seem as if y'all trying to kick the Florida schools to the curb.

Or run away from them... :snicker
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 07, 2020, 08:51:27 AM
I can imagine that not only are they leaving the MEAC, but also any social media forums featuring HBCUs... including this site. It is kind of like how Hampton basically disappeared from this site. HBCUs and churches are the glue to the black community. When we start losing our best of these, our demise is clear. Especially if one of these leaders has been one of the strongest voices of our civil rights. This will hurt in more than sports.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 07, 2020, 08:56:04 AM
I can imagine that not only are they leaving the MEAC, but also any social media forums featuring HBCUs... including this site. It is kind of like how Hampton basically disappeared from this site. HBCUs and churches are the glue to the black community. When we start losing our best of these, our demise is clear. Especially if one of these leaders has been one of the strongest voices of our civil rights. This will hurt in more than sports.

HU never really had a STRONG presence here. Yes a few posters but nowhere near as common as A&T, WSSU, etc.

Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 07, 2020, 09:04:25 AM
I can imagine that not only are they leaving the MEAC, but also any social media forums featuring HBCUs... including this site. It is kind of like how Hampton basically disappeared from this site. HBCUs and churches are the glue to the black community. When we start losing our best of these, our demise is clear. Especially if one of these leaders has been one of the strongest voices of our civil rights. This will hurt in more than sports.

HU never really had a STRONG presence here. Yes a few posters but nowhere near as common as A&T, WSSU, etc.

Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?

Not understanding your comment "Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?"
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 07, 2020, 09:35:31 AM
I can imagine that not only are they leaving the MEAC, but also any social media forums featuring HBCUs... including this site. It is kind of like how Hampton basically disappeared from this site. HBCUs and churches are the glue to the black community. When we start losing our best of these, our demise is clear. Especially if one of these leaders has been one of the strongest voices of our civil rights. This will hurt in more than sports.

HU never really had a STRONG presence here. Yes a few posters but nowhere near as common as A&T, WSSU, etc.

Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?

Not understanding your comment "Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?"


 :no:  Go back a page....
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 09:43:35 AM
Capler, my sentiments exactly. Integration De-segregation destroyed a lot of Black establishments, high schools, sports and communities. :no:

Minor change...as a country we've never truly been integrated.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CU1994 on February 07, 2020, 09:44:55 AM
Capler, my sentiments exactly. Integration De-segregation destroyed a lot of Black establishments, high schools, sports and communities. :no:

Minor change...as a country we've never truly been integrated.

Too many people confuse integration with assimilation. Whenever they say there was integration, it was actually assimilation.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 09:48:28 AM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference

Somehow that Woolworth sit-in got the recognition, but Durham started the protest years earlier at Royal Ice Cream @ Dowd & North Roxboro.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
The more I read some of these comments. It seem as if y'all trying to kick the Florida schools to the curb.

That's precisely what it is.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 10:46:07 AM
It's done
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 10:51:47 AM
It sounds like we made the decision over travel time. I'm not sure how much time we actually saved. We won't have to travel to Florida twice a year in every sport but I'm not sure if that time is truly significant in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
It sounds like we made the decision over travel time. I'm not sure how much time we actually saved. We won't have to travel to Florida twice a year in every sport but I'm not sure if that time is truly significant in the grand scheme of things.
Probably not

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
GREENSBORO, N.C. — North Carolina A&T State University will become a full member of the Big South Conference.

“We have been looking carefully at our opportunities in athletics for five years and more intensively over the past year,” said Chancellor Harold L. Martin Sr. in a news release. ” We’re pleased to have brought that process to fruition and excited to be ushering in a new alliance with the Big South.”

The university’s board of trustees voted to switch away from the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference to the Big South on Friday morning, shortly before a 10 a.m. news conference announcing the decision.

The decision came at the recommendation of the Athletic Conference Assessment committee which completed a study and approved the recommendation Tuesday.

https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina-at-state-university-to-announce-major-development-within-intercollegiate-athletics-department/
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 07, 2020, 11:59:32 AM
We are making to big of deal over A&T leaving the MEAC.  When I moved to the DMV 45 years ago, A&T coming to HU, MSU, and DSU was the hottest ticket in town.  Now when A&T comes to town, nobody cares.  Last year A&T and MSU only had 2900 fans on a nice day.  NCCU and MSU had over 7600 fans.  WSSU had more fans than A&T at MSU when they were in the MEAC.  The last time A&T came to DSU, there was less than 2000 fans.  All the MEAC needs to do is help BCU and add WSSU. 

Besides if A&T really wanted to move up in status, they would have joined the CAA or SOCON.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 07, 2020, 12:19:21 PM
Best Wishes. Nothing changes for US....!!! You will still play us each year for revenue purposes so our rivalry will remain in tact.


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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 07, 2020, 12:38:32 PM
This is good for A&T.  They are now out of that bottom feeding conference. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 01:05:35 PM
So can anybody give us an idea what is the aggies thinking in making up the lost revenue sharing from the CB?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 07, 2020, 01:15:50 PM
So can anybody give us an idea what is the aggies thinking in making up the lost revenue sharing from the CB?

I thought about that myself and saw someone from A&T post on Facebook (Hate social media reporting) but it stated that they're entering the last year of the contract of the game and talks of a renewal have stalled...Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: MilesBear1 on February 07, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
I'm Happy for the Aggies go for it. As the old saying leave while you are on Top. :nod:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 07, 2020, 01:49:17 PM
We are making to big of deal over A&T leaving the MEAC.  When I moved to the DMV 45 years ago, A&T coming to HU, MSU, and DSU was the hottest ticket in town.  Now when A&T comes to town, nobody cares.  Last year A&T and MSU only had 2900 fans on a nice day.  NCCU and MSU had over 7600 fans.  WSSU had more fans than A&T at MSU when they were in the MEAC.  The last time A&T came to DSU, there was less than 2000 fans.  All the MEAC needs to do is help BCU and add WSSU. 

Besides if A&T really wanted to move up in status, they would have joined the CAA or SOCON.

Oh no, please don't add WSSU to the MEAC. I want to be able to somewhat compete with the teams we play in all of our sports. We have no desire to pretend to be what we are not. Even at the DII level, we are just average at best. The best thing to do is for most of the MEAC schools to join the CIAA, where they belong.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 07, 2020, 01:54:10 PM
A&T vs NCCU is not going anywhere.   We will continue that game as long as there is an A&TSU and NCCU.   Best wishes to the Aggies, our long standing rivals.  Do what you have to do in fulfilling your business model.  We will still go after that dog tail because that is the only interest we can have in that fight.   :bow: :bow: :nod: :nod: :bow: :bow:  We have to await the decision of their BOT come Friday.  A&T has a very good board that gathered all the figures, prognostics prior to making this leap, i'm sure.   Smart folk who will not be second guessed by me- whichever way they vote. 

 




Don't count on it.  Being in two different conferences can be difficult to schedule.  I will not complain about not playing them.  It was their choice to leave.  Be honest, I feel no HBCU should play them.

 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 07, 2020, 01:55:34 PM
I feel like I did when Trump won the election. >:(  I lost so much respect for Hampton, and now a&t... :shrug:  I pray that Central doesn't follow them. 

Cap,
Are you suggesting that the CIAA schools are not broke or have more money than MEAC schools?  I am responding to your comment that we should be in the CIAA...

The Ciaa schools are not much better compared to their peers.   I was making reference to MEAC schools who could be financially  better off in DII. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 07, 2020, 02:06:48 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference
Many people also thought those four A&T freshmen were crazy 60 years ago. Their professors and friends said don't do it. They did it anyway.  That's what AGGIES DO.

Wrong equivalent. Yes Aggies lead the way. But those four freshmen did not withdraw from T and enroll at UNCG because they felt G had better opportunity for them.  Sitting  at that lunch counter benefited all black people. This move does nothing but weakens us as a community.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 07, 2020, 02:10:40 PM
I can imagine that not only are they leaving the MEAC, but also any social media forums featuring HBCUs... including this site. It is kind of like how Hampton basically disappeared from this site. HBCUs and churches are the glue to the black community. When we start losing our best of these, our demise is clear. Especially if one of these leaders has been one of the strongest voices of our civil rights. This will hurt in more than sports.

HU never really had a STRONG presence here. Yes a few posters but nowhere near as common as A&T, WSSU, etc.

Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?

Not understanding your comment "Also....did I read #TrumpSupporterConference ?  :lmao:
C'mon now really?"


 :no:  Go back a page....

Sorry Platinum I'm a little slow today and still don't understand. However, Capler hit the nail on the head with his comments on the last page. I wish ya'll would cancel your football game with A&T next year in protest. We'll play ya'll twice if we have too. WSSU is not in the MEAC, but we have still have been betrayed... we all have.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 07, 2020, 02:13:28 PM
I imagine a move by the largest Historical BCU in the country having a ripple effect upon those still in the traditional setting mandated by laws and codes that created African Americans Colleges and Universities in the first place. Conferences are rethinking past faux pas and  A&T today would be a welcomed affiliate for conferences with similar sized schools in a few hours drive from East Greensboro. Increasing  local and regional corporate sponsorships in their athletic business model as a goal,
   A&T seemingly is treading in that direction.  Not smart enough to predict this outcome, hoping it doesn't end up with A&T pushing their cart and pulling it too on home and away games relative to revenue.  Schools love scheduling teams with a fan base that travels and the Aggies fit those expectations away from home but their future counterparts lack reciprocity on return trips.  Who knows what deals on the tube may await this move and newer ways of reaping revenue.    What I do like about those Aggies is not waiting and debating making a buck.  Beer and wine sales at games.   All of the others in conference formed a committee to look at the venture, then an AD HOC committee to look at the committee formed, then a wait a see what happens and maybe it will be taken up after meeting the the pastors in town, etc, etc.  Aggies sold it at football games this past fall and now at the basketball games.   MO MONEY.  I respect efforts from  capable staff and the leadership currently on Market Street.   

Those white folk are not going to travel Greensboro, so there won't be a bump in attendance. If anything Aggies will help build of those other schools coffers.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 07, 2020, 02:17:42 PM
NCAT is making the move that works for them, others will do the same.   If that means staying or switching conferences (PWI or HBCU).  This seems to be a well run university, I wish other HBCUs were run as well.   More HBCUs will close in this decade because of poor management and clinging to past instead of making moves that focus on the future.  :tiptoe:

I wish them the best and will continue to support them.   :clap: :clap: :clap:

That is exactly what black folk say to justify their moving to white neighborhoods, attend white colleges.... "Be damned with the rest of y'all, they treat us good over here. They got nice stores, nice dorms, pretty white women..."
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 07, 2020, 02:20:53 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference

Somehow that Woolworth sit-in got the recognition, but Durham started the protest years earlier at Royal Ice Cream @ Dowd & North Roxboro.

Yeah, the people who start something seldom get the recognition.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 02:34:55 PM
We are making to big of deal over A&T leaving the MEAC.  When I moved to the DMV 45 years ago, A&T coming to HU, MSU, and DSU was the hottest ticket in town.  Now when A&T comes to town, nobody cares.  Last year A&T and MSU only had 2900 fans on a nice day.  NCCU and MSU had over 7600 fans.  WSSU had more fans than A&T at MSU when they were in the MEAC.  The last time A&T came to DSU, there was less than 2000 fans.  All the MEAC needs to do is help BCU and add WSSU. 

Besides if A&T really wanted to move up in status, they would have joined the CAA or SOCON.

Yeah, uh huh.

Those two conferences likely aren't offering an invite.  They want us individually to help their schools, not the other way around.

Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on February 07, 2020, 02:44:58 PM
These comments have been interesting. A % T had been one of the few HBCU's that people had appeared to be hesitant to criticize. At least this time they got their fair share. So now let us do it to all when deserved and give praise when it is due.

The dangers to the MEAC is that the Florida schools are geographically closer to the SWAC than they are to the MEAC. Those two schools and South Carolina State who would move with them are well supported by their alumni and with better game attendance than the northern MEAC schools.

All of this is making the spread out SIAC seem better and better. As I have said before, I have stopped criticizing our Commissioner.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: EPJr on February 07, 2020, 03:33:09 PM
I think this is a slap in black folks faces and a&t should be ashamed of themselves.  I wouldn't cry one tear if we stop playing them.
what about the slap in our black faces when y'all moved from the CIAA
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 03:46:05 PM
This was the CIAA conference in the 1960s.  I imagine the Division system kept travel down.  So now NC A&T would like to have its student-athletes back on campus at decent hour.  In order to get back what we had we have to join the Big South conference.  It's strange how things come full circle.  The MEAC and the SWAC may put too much travel on our student-athletes.  If A&T decides to go to the FBS level the travel time will only increase.  Don't forget where you came from.

Elizabeth City State University
Fayetteville State University
Johnson C. Smith University
Livingstone College
Saint Augustine's University
Shaw University
Virginia State University
Virginia Union University
Winston–Salem State University
Delaware State University
Hampton University
Howard University
University of Maryland Eastern Shore
Morgan State University   
Norfolk State University
North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University
North Carolina Central University
Saint Paul's College
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on February 07, 2020, 04:07:12 PM
A&T did what was best for the Aggies. Why?  IDN.   One thing in their scheduling,  NCCU is and will remain there.  Those who say we shouldn't schedule games because of THEIR decision to change conferences - and for that reason only, doesn't wash my slate clean enough to feel WHAT? & WHY.   If money is there, so will we.  IDN all the particulars, but  having  good strong leadership coupled with a good athletic staff screams TAKE NOTICE, OR RETHINK WHERE WE ALL ARE.  Maybe a bad decision just happened , but I am hoping  NOT.  Wishing the best for our brothers and sisters up I85.  Their  call and business decision which I cannot knock,   The ripples resulting from this move - all over the conferences  in HBCUdom will have  a much greater significance  than Hamptons  departure.   Scheduling problems etc peeved some  but we got through that last minute OUT .
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 07, 2020, 04:24:50 PM
I think this is a slap in black folks faces and a&t should be ashamed of themselves.  I wouldn't cry one tear if we stop playing them.
what about the slap in our black faces when y'all moved from the CIAA

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 07, 2020, 04:27:29 PM
I imagine a move by the largest Historical BCU in the country having a ripple effect upon those still in the traditional setting mandated by laws and codes that created African Americans Colleges and Universities in the first place. Conferences are rethinking past faux pas and  A&T today would be a welcomed affiliate for conferences with similar sized schools in a few hours drive from East Greensboro. Increasing  local and regional corporate sponsorships in their athletic business model as a goal,
   A&T seemingly is treading in that direction.  Not smart enough to predict this outcome, hoping it doesn't end up with A&T pushing their cart and pulling it too on home and away games relative to revenue.  Schools love scheduling teams with a fan base that travels and the Aggies fit those expectations away from home but their future counterparts lack reciprocity on return trips.  Who knows what deals on the tube may await this move and newer ways of reaping revenue.    What I do like about those Aggies is not waiting and debating making a buck.  Beer and wine sales at games.   All of the others in conference formed a committee to look at the venture, then an AD HOC committee to look at the committee formed, then a wait a see what happens and maybe it will be taken up after meeting the the pastors in town, etc, etc.  Aggies sold it at football games this past fall and now at the basketball games.   MO MONEY.  I respect efforts from  capable staff and the leadership currently on Market Street.   

Those white folk are not going to travel Greensboro, so there won't be a bump in attendance. If anything Aggies will help build of those other schools coffers.

You're crazy if you think Campbell or Gardner Webb won't bring more folks than Delaware State or even Howard and Morgan.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 04:47:46 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 04:52:39 PM
Big South Basketball
Winthrop
Radford   
Hampton   
Charleston Southern
USC Upstate
Gardner-Webb   
High Point
UNC Asheville   
Longwood
Campbell
North Carolina A&T
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 07, 2020, 04:58:26 PM
I think this is a slap in black folks faces and a&t should be ashamed of themselves.  I wouldn't cry one tear if we stop playing them.
what about the slap in our black faces when y'all moved from the CIAA



You do know that the MEAC Conference was started on our campus.  We just went back home. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: EPJr on February 07, 2020, 05:09:28 PM
THE OFFICIAL MEAC RESPONSE

https://hbcugameday.com/2020/02/07/meac-responds-to-departure-of-ncat/?fbclid=IwAR32yLqVBADjKC9atJvmuZQLMhBxIXnWDb9zxeFqdMv5OYn2Z70bj2l7gLk
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 07, 2020, 05:17:04 PM
THE OFFICIAL MEAC RESPONSE

https://hbcugameday.com/2020/02/07/meac-responds-to-departure-of-ncat/?fbclid=IwAR32yLqVBADjKC9atJvmuZQLMhBxIXnWDb9zxeFqdMv5OYn2Z70bj2l7gLk




Great response!!! :clap: 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 07, 2020, 05:20:58 PM
I see some of my Eagles wishing that our games with a&t will continue.  That's what a&t is telling their alumni, that the games with NCCU, FAMU and NSU will continue.  The problem is, there is no guarantee of that happening.  If I was the MEAC, I would encourage our schools not to play them, at least for a while.  You can't leave us and at the same time, want to still play us. :shrug: #blackball101
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: punchy on February 07, 2020, 05:35:17 PM
I see some of my Eagles wishing that our games with a&t will continue.  That's what a&t is telling their alumni, that the games with NCCU, FAMU and NSU will continue.  The problem is, there is no guarantee of that happening.  If I was the MEAC, I would encourage our schools not to play them, at least for a while.  You can't leave us and at the same time, want to still play us. :shrug: #blackball101

The fact is, NSU can still feasibly play A&T out of conference after the 2020 season, as long as the dates don't coincide with our other out of conference games,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 07, 2020, 07:19:52 PM
A&T's change from MEAC to Big South a matter of head over heart
By Jeff Mills jeff.mills@greensboro.com

Tim King understands. An A&T alumnus, King is the trustee who led the board’s 11-member Athletics Assessment Committee that recommended the move.

“You have to get your heart and your head in the right place,” King said. “Your heart says it’s easier to stay where you are because it’s what you love. You enjoy the camaraderie of going to games and seeing all your friends. But that’s not all that we are about, so this becomes a head decision for us.

https://www.greensboro.com/sports/college/ncat/a-t-s-change-from-meac-to-big-south-a/article_b4acc279-3e3b-589e-b3c9-1187cdd131a1.html
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on February 07, 2020, 08:19:27 PM
I looked up the footprints of all of the Football Bowl Subdivision Conferences in the United States, and none are as compact as the Big South. And then read the Chancellor's statements and it is hard to deny that this move makes financial sense. So watch out Eagles.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 08:31:13 PM
So can anybody give us an idea what is the aggies thinking in making up the lost revenue sharing from the CB?

I thought about that myself and saw someone from A&T post on Facebook (Hate social media reporting) but it stated that they're entering the last year of the contract of the game and talks of a renewal have stalled...Can anyone confirm this?
I wouldn't think that to be base in any facts.  The truth is the CB numbers are consistently better than 80-90% of the GOF games. That have been around for decades.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
The more I read some of these comments. It seem as if y'all trying to kick the Florida schools to the curb.

That's precisely what it is.
How is BCU accreditation problems coming along?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 07, 2020, 09:01:45 PM
I looked up the footprints of all of the Football Bowl Subdivision Conferences in the United States, and none are as compact as the Big South. And then read the Chancellor's statements and it is hard to deny that this move makes financial sense. So watch out Eagles.



I doubt if the Big South would want to invite another HBCU.  We are good! 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 07, 2020, 09:22:48 PM
https://theundefeated.com/features/losing-n-c-at-not-only-hurts-the-meac-its-huge-for-the-culture/
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 10:48:27 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

can you put up the mileage from your campus to theirs on BOTH?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 07, 2020, 10:49:32 PM
I looked up the footprints of all of the Football Bowl Subdivision Conferences in the United States, and none are as compact as the Big South. And then read the Chancellor's statements and it is hard to deny that this move makes financial sense. So watch out Eagles.

???

watch out for .... ?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschool on February 07, 2020, 11:28:07 PM
I see some of my Eagles wishing that our games with a&t will continue.  That's what a&t is telling their alumni, that the games with NCCU, FAMU and NSU will continue.  The problem is, there is no guarantee of that happening.  If I was the MEAC, I would encourage our schools not to play them, at least for a while.  You can't leave us and at the same time, want to still play us. :shrug: #blackball101

The fact is, NSU can still feasibly play A&T out of conference after the 2020 season, as long as the dates don't coincide with our other out of conference games,,,,,,,,,,

That's the thing bro that some of these other people fail to realize . We can and should continue to play certain teams from the MEAC ,for the benefit of both schools . I know for a fact that A&T always has a strong turnout at SCSU,NCCU,NSU,Howard and Morgan ,not so much at the other schools .So it's puzzles me that some would like to punish or hurt us ,and at the same time hurt themselves in the pocketbook . I've heard this comment from others and some of our own alumni ,I say get out of your emotions and think with your head and do what's best for you financially at all times .  :brickwall:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 07, 2020, 11:44:46 PM
I looked up the footprints of all of the Football Bowl Subdivision Conferences in the United States, and none are as compact as the Big South. And then read the Chancellor's statements and it is hard to deny that this move makes financial sense. So watch out Eagles.



I doubt if the Big South would want to invite another HBCU.  We are good!
The Big South is going to have at least three more schools to exodus in the next five years. This is no more than a realignment. Soon to be MEAC north without the Florida schools
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 08, 2020, 12:00:52 AM
I see some of my Eagles wishing that our games with a&t will continue.  That's what a&t is telling their alumni, that the games with NCCU, FAMU and NSU will continue.  The problem is, there is no guarantee of that happening.  If I was the MEAC, I would encourage our schools not to play them, at least for a while.  You can't leave us and at the same time, want to still play us. :shrug: #blackball101

The fact is, NSU can still feasibly play A&T out of conference after the 2020 season, as long as the dates don't coincide with our other out of conference games,,,,,,,,,,

That's the thing bro that some of these other people fail to realize . We can and should continue to play certain teams from the MEAC ,for the benefit of both schools . I know for a fact that A&T always has a strong turnout at SCSU,NCCU,NSU,Howard and Morgan ,not so much at the other schools .So it's puzzles me that some would like to punish or hurt us ,and at the same time hurt themselves in the pocketbook . I've heard this comment from others and some of our own alumni ,I say get out of your emotions and think with your head and do what's best for you financially at all times .  :brickwall:



You guys are leaving us.  Why should we strengthen your pockets?  Trust me, we will survive without this game.  We did it before.  I have lost respect for a&t to the point where I am not traveling to Greensboro anymore for games.  I will just watch the live stats on NCCU's page.  See ya!!!   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 08, 2020, 12:09:09 AM
I imagine a move by the largest Historical BCU in the country having a ripple effect upon those still in the traditional setting mandated by laws and codes that created African Americans Colleges and Universities in the first place. Conferences are rethinking past faux pas and  A&T today would be a welcomed affiliate for conferences with similar sized schools in a few hours drive from East Greensboro. Increasing  local and regional corporate sponsorships in their athletic business model as a goal,
   A&T seemingly is treading in that direction.  Not smart enough to predict this outcome, hoping it doesn't end up with A&T pushing their cart and pulling it too on home and away games relative to revenue.  Schools love scheduling teams with a fan base that travels and the Aggies fit those expectations away from home but their future counterparts lack reciprocity on return trips.  Who knows what deals on the tube may await this move and newer ways of reaping revenue.    What I do like about those Aggies is not waiting and debating making a buck.  Beer and wine sales at games.   All of the others in conference formed a committee to look at the venture, then an AD HOC committee to look at the committee formed, then a wait a see what happens and maybe it will be taken up after meeting the the pastors in town, etc, etc.  Aggies sold it at football games this past fall and now at the basketball games.   MO MONEY.  I respect efforts from  capable staff and the leadership currently on Market Street.   

Those white folk are not going to travel Greensboro, so there won't be a bump in attendance. If anything Aggies will help build of those other schools coffers.

You're crazy if you think Campbell or Gardner Webb won't bring more folks than Delaware State or even Howard and Morgan.

Just like Elon does right?  And they are  a hope, skip and a jump down the road.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on February 08, 2020, 01:18:26 AM
When I said "watch Out Eagles", I was referring to the very same things that were discussed in the Undefeated article. No pun intended but A % T probably brings more to the Big South than they will receive in return. A savings on travel expenses has to be the big factor. If as the administration has implied, the exposure from the Celebration Bowl was a big factor in their increase in enrollment, that will definitely come to a end.

What is overlooked here is that there is probably not one SWAC school that does not have a rivalry game with attendance of 50,000. In the SIAC, Morehouse and Tuskegee drew 31,000, Fort Valley State and Albany State 37,000. A % T's biggest crowd was 21,500. From South Carolina south, the dynamics are different. They probably just don't feel the same financial pressures even with smaller enrollments and especially in the SIAC.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 08, 2020, 01:30:30 AM
I see some of my Eagles wishing that our games with a&t will continue.  That's what a&t is telling their alumni, that the games with NCCU, FAMU and NSU will continue.  The problem is, there is no guarantee of that happening.  If I was the MEAC, I would encourage our schools not to play them, at least for a while.  You can't leave us and at the same time, want to still play us. :shrug: #blackball101

The fact is, NSU can still feasibly play A&T out of conference after the 2020 season, as long as the dates don't coincide with our other out of conference games,,,,,,,,,,

That's the thing bro that some of these other people fail to realize . We can and should continue to play certain teams from the MEAC ,for the benefit of both schools . I know for a fact that A&T always has a strong turnout at SCSU,NCCU,NSU,Howard and Morgan ,not so much at the other schools .So it's puzzles me that some would like to punish or hurt us ,and at the same time hurt themselves in the pocketbook . I've heard this comment from others and some of our own alumni ,I say get out of your emotions and think with your head and do what's best for you financially at all times .  :brickwall:



You guys are leaving us.  Why should we strengthen your pockets?  Trust me, we will survive without this game.  We did it before.  I have lost respect for a&t to the point where I am not traveling to Greensboro anymore for games.  I will just watch the live stats on NCCU's page.  See ya!!!

Uh bro you have a short memory. Didn't nccu move up to D1 primarily to have A&T back on the schedule? Now you want us to believe eagles would/should avoid playing us because we'll temporarily be in a different conference. Lol, let me know how that turns out.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on February 08, 2020, 07:17:22 AM
Yeah, I’m all for playing NCAT moving forward especially in a home and home series once we get our act right. This leaves a huge whole in the conference footprint. I know that having our own conferences is amazing. But I wouldn’t be surprised if this is just the first crack in the armor this year. Something tells me that this isn’t done yet. You could see MEAC schools move to various regional conferences and a look to play each other out of conference in classic games. And holiday weekends.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: TSU/BAMA on February 08, 2020, 09:10:10 AM
.............You could see MEAC schools move to various regional conferences and a look to play each other out of conference in classic games. And holiday weekends.

 :shrug: If you gonna do that, then why,  well, err, never mind.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Pirate12 on February 08, 2020, 11:37:42 AM
Very interesting comments from Chancellor Harold Martin. I think it will be 15-20 years before we can assess whether this was a good move. I think young black HBCU students-- due to increased racial profiling, Colin Kapernaek, Donald Trump, arrests of black males are even more accepting and conscientious of their ethnic value and cultural self. So, the young people I've spoken to about this don't think moving to the suburbs gives them a leg up in life. In the 1980s and 1990s I think the mantra was "non-HBCU looks good on your resume and will help you in life." Remember these kids know about and see Jay-Z, Beyonce, Puff Daddy and LaBron flaunting their blackness and making money.

So, if A&T's real reason for leaving was financial and needing to save money on the bus rides then say that. Man, the Big South is on nobody's radar and the game environment is downright boring! Ask anybody from Hampton-- at home or away. Here is the thing...HIU has less student turn-out than before-- even at homecoming. The thing I noticed was the comments coming from the fans from the other schools. Half time: "Boyyy look at the band, they sho' can juke it." I won't even repeat what I thought I heard a couple of good ol' boys say. Big South is a red neck conference. President Martin can fix up his statements with "greater footprint and higher visability etc. all he likes but you can not put lip stick on this pig...or rather bull dog and think it is nothing but a dog wearing lip stick.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: SSUTigerFan on February 08, 2020, 11:52:32 AM
 :nod:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Capler on February 08, 2020, 12:47:03 PM
Thank you Pirate for your first hand experience on the matter. I don't see any advantage for A&T here. Aggies have good attendance, but for those 'not so interesting games' those numbers are not that great. Now they are moving to a conference where all the teams will be classified as boring.  Of the folks I ve spoken to over the past 2 days, only one person liked this situation.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Pirate12 on February 08, 2020, 12:57:18 PM
Monmouth   6-0   1.000   11-3   0.786   7-0   4-3   0-0   L1
Kennesaw State   5-1   0.833   11-3   0.786   5-1   6-2   0-0   L1
Charleston Southern   4-2   0.667   6-6   0.500   3-2   3-4   0-0   W4
Campbell   3-3   0.500   6-5   0.545   4-2   2-3   0-0   L4
Gardner-Webb   1-5   0.167   3-9   0.250   2-3   1-6   0-0   L6
Hampton   1-5   0.167   5-7   0.417   4-2   0-5   1-0   L3
Presbyterian   1-5   0.167   2-10   0.167   2-5   0-5   0-0   W1
North Alabama   0-0   0.000   4-7   0.364   3-2   1-5   0-0   W1

Trust me...MEAC football is far more compelling than this shiggety! Granted some of my Caucasian associates and some African American sports writers are out buying different shades of lip stick to put on the A&T bull dog, but Big South football game environments suck!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 08, 2020, 01:20:47 PM
Very interesting comments from Chancellor Harold Martin. I think it will be 15-20 years before we can assess whether this was a good move. I think young black HBCU students-- due to increased racial profiling, Colin Kapernaek, Donald Trump, arrests of black males are even more accepting and conscientious of their ethnic value and cultural self. So, the young people I've spoken to about this don't think moving to the suburbs gives them a leg up in life. In the 1980s and 1990s I think the mantra was "non-HBCU looks good on your resume and will help you in life." Remember these kids know about and see Jay-Z, Beyonce, Puff Daddy and LaBron flaunting their blackness and making money.

So, if A&T's real reason for leaving was financial and needing to save money on the bus rides then say that. Man, the Big South is on nobody's radar and the game environment is downright boring! Ask anybody from Hampton-- at home or away. Here is the thing...HIU has less student turn-out than before-- even at homecoming. The thing I noticed was the comments coming from the fans from the other schools. Half time: "Boyyy look at the band, they sho' can juke it." I won't even repeat what I thought I heard a couple of good ol' boys say. Big South is a red neck conference. President Martin can fix up his statements with "greater footprint and higher visability etc. all he likes but you can not put lip stick on this pig...or rather bull dog and think it is nothing but a dog wearing lip stick.

Bro did you read any of the press releases? Our message has been fairly consistent. We've been saying since 2015 the MEAC travel expenditures are problematic. At that time our AD gave us a detailed breakdown of the seriousness of this issue. We spent $1.4 million on travel last year and expect that to increase this year. Moving to the BSC will cut that by 40 - 50 %.

Remember. you all were the ones who left saying you were going to a better conference.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 08, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
Thank you Pirate for your first hand experience on the matter. I don't see any advantage for A&T here. Aggies have good attendance, but for those 'not so interesting games' those numbers are not that great. Now they are moving to a conference where all the teams will be classified as boring.  Of the folks I ve spoken to over the past 2 days, only one person liked this situation.

No offense but we will not project our attendance based on Hampton's experience. He11,they didn't draw flies in the MEAC so if no one is attending their football games vs BSC teams then I'd have to say nothing's changed.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 08, 2020, 03:21:12 PM
.............You could see MEAC schools move to various regional conferences and a look to play each other out of conference in classic games. And holiday weekends.

 :shrug: If you gonna do that, then why,  well, err, never mind.
This......"ALL THIS"
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 08, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
They leave but still want to play us... :lol:  Yall think we stupid :shrug:? 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Pirate12 on February 08, 2020, 03:34:12 PM
Thank you Pirate for your first hand experience on the matter. I don't see any advantage for A&T here. Aggies have good attendance, but for those 'not so interesting games' those numbers are not that great. Now they are moving to a conference where all the teams will be classified as boring.  Of the folks I ve spoken to over the past 2 days, only one person liked this situation.

No offense but we will not project our attendance based on Hampton's experience. He11,they didn't draw flies in the MEAC so if no one is attending their football games vs BSC teams then I'd have to say nothing's changed.

Student population numbers football playing schools:

Presbyterian-1,080 
Campbell-6,484
Monmouth-6,371
Hampton-4,618
Gardner Webb- 3,500
Kennesaw- 31.611
North Alabama- 7,488
Charleston Southern-3,724

---------------
 "So we’ve got to align the university not to what you want to keep as important as an alum, but to what these bright kids are looking for when they come out of high school, what industries are looking for from our graduates today.

“I know it’s a sensitive conversation with some of our constituents, but almost every major decision we’ve made has been, too. … I can stand before them and take the hit, but also push back and say, ‘You’ve got to recognize and embrace change.’”

The above schools of the Big South are not intellectual giants, research hubs for innovation or anything close to it! As I said before talk to students at A&T (as I have because some live in Portsmouth) you will see they are not doing frat steps and hollering Aggie Pride about the move to the Big South. The name of the conference will tell you all you need to really understand... :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 08, 2020, 05:05:06 PM
Big South Basketball
Winthrop
Radford   
Hampton   
Charleston Southern
USC Upstate
Gardner-Webb   
High Point
UNC Asheville   
Longwood
Campbell
North Carolina A&T
Distance from North Carolina A&T
Winthrop  119 miles
Radford     144 miles
Hampton     247 miles
Charleston Southern 262 miles
USC Upstate 165 miles
Gardner-Webb 142 miles   
High Point 19 miles
UNC Asheville 188 miles
Longwood 131 miles
Campbell 84.5 miles
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 08, 2020, 05:21:13 PM
I'm trying to read to understand, but I am not finding answers.  Why haven't we, the alum, been shown this grand vision?  I don't see it. 

I teach.  I am a direct pipeline for resources and students to A&T.  I'd like to think I deserve a little more respect and insight.

I am not feeling this. 

I am seeking reasons why... 

I don't like it.


The AD gave the reason 5 years ago which were travel costs. In fact he gave a complete power point presentation on why we should leave the MEAC. Outside of the 3 associate members in football there will not be a drive over 4 hours which means virtually no overnight stays or planetrips for conference games.



You all agreed to that?  Got to be more to this. :shrug:  Sounds like sell-outs to me.  I mean, a school rooted in the civil rights movement is turning their backs on a black conference for a dollar.  :no:  #trumpsupportersconference

I'm not a fan of this move but understand the reasons. Be careful throwing rocks because nccu  and/or nsu will be the next to move over to BSC.

Are you sure? As someone already mentioned 2 HBCUs is quite a bit for these folk to swallow.  You just don't show up, you have to be invited.

I would think you guys with all of your current football bluster would have wanted to be in the CAA or SoCon.  Did they not want you?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: klg14 on February 08, 2020, 05:37:37 PM
Losing N.C. A&T not only hurts the MEAC, it’s huge for the culture
https://theundefeated.com/features/losing-n-c-at-not-only-hurts-the-meac-its-huge-for-the-culture/
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 08, 2020, 06:37:44 PM
This is a sad Black History month. :no:  I see some of you aggies are tying to stay positive, but to many are very angry at this move.  Yall better pray that MEAC schools are not in their feelings like I am.  May be the money you save with traveling will cover you decrease in attendance.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: NCCU05 on February 08, 2020, 07:36:24 PM
 :thefan:

Call this what it is, a step closer to merging A&T and UNC-G. Watch what I say.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: aggie law on February 08, 2020, 07:45:47 PM
FAMU is calling an emergency meeting to discuss their future.... :nod:

NCCU is getting restless... :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 08, 2020, 10:54:28 PM
FAMU is calling an emergency meeting to discuss their future.... :nod:

NCCU is getting restless... :tiptoe:



All because of a&t? :shrug:  Why would we be restless? And please stop lying on FAMU.  Y'all need to call an emergency meeting to put an end to this foolishness. :no:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AimHigh on February 08, 2020, 11:09:58 PM
If FAMU and BCU go to the SWAC, they could join ASU, A&M, Jackson St., and Alcorn St. in the Eastern Division.

If NCCU and Norfolk St. join A&T and Hampton in the Big South, that will be a good solid conference.

Howard and the other MEAC schools perhaps should consider a return to CIAA IMHO.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on February 08, 2020, 11:33:05 PM
Upon sleeping on this shocking occurrence during Black History Month, swallowing  gut feeling in an attempt to be above this sad happening though appearing gracious in understanding a friends point of view, I have awaken to my full senses.     :o  Speaking with Hampton and Tennessee State alums relative to their change of conferences to Big South and Ohio Valley respectively and finding the gains for  those conferences but not the aforementioned schools.   The positive experiences on those PWI campuses shown to blacks recruits are sound bites and video of blacks cheering in the stands (the visiting HBCU) in  helping to gain that signature? US !  Now forget getting calls during games.  YOU ARE IT.  Coupled with  recruiting against conference teams as a whole rather than individual schools.  You stand out like a sore thumb while not fitting the profile of each institution you are joining.  They all have a ways to go to match  A&T  past history and current research resume. Big South fans don't travel to PWI must less a HBCU.  BIG SOUTH fans will not attend games in Greensboro.    Any TV or internet deal coming through BSC can be replicated  here at the MEAC.  Our conference has been and will continue being a beacon in NCAA FCS divisions.  RETHINKING THIS THING. I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGES other than travel which may be a short term gain but a long term loss.  Remember this is the conference that accepted Hampton, a good school but athletically dormant.    :shrug:    FINALLY, I have repeatedly praised the CELEBRATION BOWL ON THIS FORUM.  Matters not the  representative TEAM - we all need to attend in support of our great conferences and this game bestowed upon the MEAC/SWAC  ITS A SHAME if we let this blessing pass too. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 09, 2020, 01:56:40 AM
:thefan:

Call this what it is, a step closer to merging A&T and UNC-G. Watch what I say.

Please explain how this has anything to do with UNCG who is in the Southern  Conference?   :crazy:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 09, 2020, 02:06:33 AM
They leave but still want to play us... :lol:  Yall think we stupid :shrug:?

Well :tiptoe:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 09, 2020, 02:34:03 AM
I guess we will be adding soccer and lacrosse in the near future.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 09, 2020, 06:40:25 AM
Upon sleeping on this shocking occurrence during Black History Month, swallowing  gut feeling in an attempt to be above this sad happening though appearing gracious in understanding a friends point of view, I have awaken to my full senses.     :o  Speaking with Hampton and Tennessee State alums relative to their change of conferences to Big South and Ohio Valley respectively and finding the gains for  those conferences but not the aforementioned schools.   The positive experiences on those PWI campuses shown to blacks recruits are sound bites and video of blacks cheering in the stands (the visiting HBCU) in  helping to gain that signature? US !  Now forget getting calls during games.  YOU ARE IT.  Coupled with  recruiting against conference teams as a whole rather than individual schools.  You stand out like a sore thumb while not fitting the profile of each institution you are joining.  They all have a ways to go to match  A&T  past history and current research resume. Big South fans don't travel to PWI must less a HBCU.  BIG SOUTH fans will not attend games in Greensboro.    Any TV or internet deal coming through BSC can be replicated  here at the MEAC.  Our conference has been and will continue being a beacon in NCAA FCS divisions.  RETHINKING THIS THING. I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGES other than travel which may be a short term gain but a long term loss.  Remember this is the conference that accepted Hampton, a good school but athletically dormant.    :shrug:    FINALLY, I have repeatedly praised the CELEBRATION BOWL ON THIS FORUM.  Matters not the  representative TEAM - we all need to attend in support of our great conferences and this game bestowed upon the MEAC/SWAC  ITS A SHAME if we let this blessing pass too.

A&T is moving to a conference that's not guaranteed a slot in the play in game.  They aren't a bottom feeding conference.  The Big South isn't made up of schools that fund their athletics by playing a lot of money games. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: punchy on February 09, 2020, 12:25:05 PM
Big South Basketball
Winthrop
Radford   
Hampton   
Charleston Southern
USC Upstate
Gardner-Webb   
High Point
UNC Asheville   
Longwood
Campbell
North Carolina A&T
Distance from North Carolina A&T
Winthrop  119 miles
Radford     144 miles
Hampton     247 miles
Charleston Southern 262 miles
USC Upstate 165 miles
Gardner-Webb 142 miles   
High Point 19 miles
UNC Asheville 188 miles
Longwood 131 miles
Campbell 84.5 miles

What about the distances between A&T and the schools that play football that are not listed here, such as North Alabama, Kennesaw State and Monmouth?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: punchy on February 09, 2020, 12:43:19 PM
Upon sleeping on this shocking occurrence during Black History Month, swallowing  gut feeling in an attempt to be above this sad happening though appearing gracious in understanding a friends point of view, I have awaken to my full senses.     :o  Speaking with Hampton and Tennessee State alums relative to their change of conferences to Big South and Ohio Valley respectively and finding the gains for  those conferences but not the aforementioned schools.   The positive experiences on those PWI campuses shown to blacks recruits are sound bites and video of blacks cheering in the stands (the visiting HBCU) in  helping to gain that signature? US !  Now forget getting calls during games.  YOU ARE IT.  Coupled with  recruiting against conference teams as a whole rather than individual schools.  You stand out like a sore thumb while not fitting the profile of each institution you are joining.  They all have a ways to go to match  A&T  past history and current research resume. Big South fans don't travel to PWI must less a HBCU.  BIG SOUTH fans will not attend games in Greensboro.    Any TV or internet deal coming through BSC can be replicated  here at the MEAC.  Our conference has been and will continue being a beacon in NCAA FCS divisions.  RETHINKING THIS THING. I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGES other than travel which may be a short term gain but a long term loss.  Remember this is the conference that accepted Hampton, a good school but athletically dormant.    :shrug:    FINALLY, I have repeatedly praised the CELEBRATION BOWL ON THIS FORUM.  Matters not the  representative TEAM - we all need to attend in support of our great conferences and this game bestowed upon the MEAC/SWAC  ITS A SHAME if we let this blessing pass too.

A&T is moving to a conference that's not guaranteed a slot in the play in game.  They aren't a bottom feeding conference.  The Big South isn't made up of schools that fund their athletics by playing a lot of money games.

What schools in the Big South don't play money games? Big South football members DO play FBS schools for the paycheck. They aren't playing them for their health!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 09, 2020, 12:59:49 PM
Big South Basketball
Winthrop
Radford   
Hampton   
Charleston Southern
USC Upstate
Gardner-Webb   
High Point
UNC Asheville   
Longwood
Campbell
North Carolina A&T
Distance from North Carolina A&T
Winthrop  119 miles
Radford     144 miles
Hampton     247 miles
Charleston Southern 262 miles
USC Upstate 165 miles
Gardner-Webb 142 miles   
High Point 19 miles
UNC Asheville 188 miles
Longwood 131 miles
Campbell 84.5 miles

What about the distances between A&T and the schools that play football that are not listed here, such as North Alabama, Kennesaw State and Monmouth?

That's just for football. The other 15 sports teams won't have to travel more than 4 hrs to any conference opponent.

Another benefit is the basketball tournament will be in Charlotte and baseball tourney in Fayetteville.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 09, 2020, 01:12:18 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 09, 2020, 01:39:53 PM
The MEAC has to remake itself inorder to remain.  The Big South is trying to survive and A&T was willing to work with them. The football only members of the Big South may be on the move soon. I'll post an article soon.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 09, 2020, 01:41:04 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES

We'll file this with all of your other asinine predictions.   :nod:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 09, 2020, 01:46:52 PM
In this video, Gumbart clearly explained the ASUN is just in the exploratory phase of this new concept where the goal would be for the ASUN to expand from its current membership of 10 to at least 18 members and then split into two different conferences, thus creating the new United Athletic Conference (UAC) to go alongside the ASUN.

The UAC would be an FCS football playing conference that would include current ASUN members Kennesaw State and North Alabama as well as an additional six FCS football institutions.

https://www.aseaofred.com/asun-commissioner-ted-gumbart-further-explains-leagues-plan/?fbclid=IwAR1L1QhGFKdUsVD8yB0Qd-WPrTUIsOxJh67A9U4Gm7BgdJ5dxIQJVT0pVt8
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 09, 2020, 02:55:29 PM
The MEAC has to remake itself inorder to remain.  The Big South is trying to survive and A&T was willing to work with them. The football only members of the Big South may be on the move soon. I'll post an article soon.
That's been known for quite sometime for those of us that follows current fcs events.

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 09, 2020, 02:58:00 PM
In this video, Gumbart clearly explained the ASUN is just in the exploratory phase of this new concept where the goal would be for the ASUN to expand from its current membership of 10 to at least 18 members and then split into two different conferences, thus creating the new United Athletic Conference (UAC) to go alongside the ASUN.

The UAC would be an FCS football playing conference that would include current ASUN members Kennesaw State and North Alabama as well as an additional six FCS football institutions.

https://www.aseaofred.com/asun-commissioner-ted-gumbart-further-explains-leagues-plan/?fbclid=IwAR1L1QhGFKdUsVD8yB0Qd-WPrTUIsOxJh67A9U4Gm7BgdJ5dxIQJVT0pVt8

So did A&T. Trust me it's a done deal. It's not a matter of if, but when.

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 09, 2020, 03:52:18 PM
Upon sleeping on this shocking occurrence during Black History Month, swallowing  gut feeling in an attempt to be above this sad happening though appearing gracious in understanding a friends point of view, I have awaken to my full senses.     :o  Speaking with Hampton and Tennessee State alums relative to their change of conferences to Big South and Ohio Valley respectively and finding the gains for  those conferences but not the aforementioned schools.   The positive experiences on those PWI campuses shown to blacks recruits are sound bites and video of blacks cheering in the stands (the visiting HBCU) in  helping to gain that signature? US !  Now forget getting calls during games.  YOU ARE IT.  Coupled with  recruiting against conference teams as a whole rather than individual schools.  You stand out like a sore thumb while not fitting the profile of each institution you are joining.  They all have a ways to go to match  A&T  past history and current research resume. Big South fans don't travel to PWI must less a HBCU.  BIG SOUTH fans will not attend games in Greensboro.    Any TV or internet deal coming through BSC can be replicated  here at the MEAC.  Our conference has been and will continue being a beacon in NCAA FCS divisions.  RETHINKING THIS THING. I DON'T SEE THE ADVANTAGES other than travel which may be a short term gain but a long term loss.  Remember this is the conference that accepted Hampton, a good school but athletically dormant.    :shrug:    FINALLY, I have repeatedly praised the CELEBRATION BOWL ON THIS FORUM.  Matters not the  representative TEAM - we all need to attend in support of our great conferences and this game bestowed upon the MEAC/SWAC  ITS A SHAME if we let this blessing pass too.

A&T is moving to a conference that's not guaranteed a slot in the play in game.  They aren't a bottom feeding conference.  The Big South isn't made up of schools that fund their athletics by playing a lot of money games.

What schools in the Big South don't play money games? Big South football members DO play FBS schools for the paycheck. They aren't playing them for their health!

They aren't playing as many. The money games aren't the bulk of their fund raising.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 09, 2020, 03:58:25 PM
The MEAC has to remake itself inorder to remain.  The Big South is trying to survive and A&T was willing to work with them. The football only members of the Big South may be on the move soon. I'll post an article soon.
That's been known for quite sometime for those of us that follows current fcs events.

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I'm new to this but I see the patterns
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 09, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES



I agree with you. Enjoy your colder ice aggies and don't call NCCU for nothing. :nono2:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CU1994 on February 09, 2020, 06:37:44 PM
Funny comments fro some current Aggie football players.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 09, 2020, 08:37:33 PM
Funny comments fro some current Aggie football players.
Where? What did I miss?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 09, 2020, 08:58:29 PM
Move to Big South offers big financial benefits for North Carolina A&T

Money played a part in N.C. A&T State University's decision to leave the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference for the Big South Conference, according to Chancellor Harold Martin and Athletic Director Earl Hilton.

Part of the reason. Not the entire reason, as N.C. A&T leaders explained at Friday morning's news conference announcing that the Aggies will enter the Big South beginning with the 2021-2022 academic year.

Martin and Hilton said only one of the 13 members of the school's board of trustees voted against the move.

Hilton told Triad Business Journal that he estimated a savings of about $500,000 in travel expenses -- about a third less than the school's travel costs to compete in the MEAC, which has three members in Maryland, two in Florida and one each in Washington, D.C., and Delaware.

Hilton said the new conference will allow for easy bus travel, which wasn't always possible for MEAC play. The Aggies' five MEAC South Division rivals include Bethune-Cookman (Daytona Beach) and Florida A&M (Tallahassee).

"We can't change geography," Hilton said.

"It was important for us to look at a more geographically central conference," Martin said.

https://www.bizjournals.com/triad/news/2020/02/07/move-to-big-south-offers-big-financial-benefits.html?iana=hpmvp_triad_news_headline
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: NEIGHBORHOODSUPERSTAR on February 09, 2020, 08:59:51 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES



I agree with you. Enjoy your colder ice aggies and don't call NCCU for nothing. :nono2:
EP,
Trust me, my man, many Aggies (including yours truly) ain't feeling this isht at all.  To all folks who are trashing A&T.....I get it - I ain't even mad at cha.  Just don't believe EVERY SINGLE AGGIE woke up Thursday morning, started smelling ourselves, and said, "Let's bounce.  We too good for these other coloreds."

I don't care how many Aggies get up on Onnidan, bluedeathvalley, or meacfanszone and echo talking points to validate this move.....
NSS AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many other Aggies AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie alumni AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie students (including my son, who's a 3rd generation Aggie) AIN'T FEELING IT.

I'm gonna miss the hell outta all of y'all.....not just the FAMU's, NCCU's and Howard's.  I gonna miss Delaware State, Maryland-Eastern Shore, Bethune-Cookman, Coppin State, Morgan St.....ALL OF Y'ALL!

......Ain't feeling this one bit >:(


Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CU1994 on February 09, 2020, 09:49:39 PM
Funny comments fro some current Aggie football players.
Where? What did I miss?

Jahmain Martin he is glad he graduates this year. Another said he could have stayed at his PWI for this. I have to get the rest from my daughter. Her crew is tripping over this. One of them said they can’t funk with NCCU but they will be in Winston on game days instead.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 09, 2020, 09:59:34 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES



I agree with you. Enjoy your colder ice aggies and don't call NCCU for nothing. :nono2:
EP,
Trust me, my man, many Aggies (including yours truly) ain't feeling this isht at all.  To all folks who are trashing A&T.....I get it - I ain't even mad at cha.  Just don't believe EVERY SINGLE AGGIE woke up Thursday morning, started smelling ourselves, and said, "Let's bounce.  We too good for these other coloreds."

I don't care how many Aggies get up on Onnidan, bluedeathvalley, or meacfanszone and echo talking points to validate this move.....
NSS AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many other Aggies AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie alumni AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie students (including my son, who's a 3rd generation Aggie) AIN'T FEELING IT.

I'm gonna miss the hell outta all of y'all.....not just the FAMU's, NCCU's and Howard's.  I gonna miss Delaware State, Maryland-Eastern Shore, Bethune-Cookman, Coppin State, Morgan St.....ALL OF Y'ALL!

......Ain't feeling this one bit >:(



I still have this sad feeling about you guys leaving.  It's unbelievable.  :'(
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 09, 2020, 11:10:01 PM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES

We'll file this with all of your other asinine predictions.   :nod:

Go ahead and sling your insults. But this is one of the last threads, on this forum, where an Aggie opion counts. From this point forward, mosts poster won't care about what ya'll have to say about "black college sports". Ya'll won't be playing black college sports. Try and find the Big South's forum.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 10, 2020, 01:19:17 AM
We made this decision to save travel time. A&T cannot go to the FBS level because that would require joining a national conference, with extreme commutes.

Just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 10, 2020, 08:56:34 AM
There is know question this will hasten the merger of A&T and UNC Greensboro. That process had already begun with a shared satellite campus. The "blackness" of A&T being flagship of the HBCU world kept State Legislators away. Now A&T is just another successful black wanting to be white. All HBCU supporters should through them to the curb... even on this forum. AFUCK AN AGGIES



I agree with you. Enjoy your colder ice aggies and don't call NCCU for nothing. :nono2:
EP,
Trust me, my man, many Aggies (including yours truly) ain't feeling this isht at all.  To all folks who are trashing A&T.....I get it - I ain't even mad at cha.  Just don't believe EVERY SINGLE AGGIE woke up Thursday morning, started smelling ourselves, and said, "Let's bounce.  We too good for these other coloreds."

I don't care how many Aggies get up on Onnidan, bluedeathvalley, or meacfanszone and echo talking points to validate this move.....
NSS AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many other Aggies AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie alumni AIN'T FEELING IT. 
Many Aggie students (including my son, who's a 3rd generation Aggie) AIN'T FEELING IT.

I'm gonna miss the hell outta all of y'all.....not just the FAMU's, NCCU's and Howard's.  I gonna miss Delaware State, Maryland-Eastern Shore, Bethune-Cookman, Coppin State, Morgan St.....ALL OF Y'ALL!

......Ain't feeling this one bit >:(

With all that you have said, the big questions is how ya'll protest this move. It might not do any good, but it will at least show your administrators how the real Aggie Nation feel. Besides, ya'll protest and lead on everything else to better the black community around the country, why not this?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 10, 2020, 09:13:42 AM
We made this decision to save travel time. A&T cannot go to the FBS level because that would require joining a national conference, with extreme commutes.

Just thinking out loud.

and who would be extending an invite on the FBS level? That 'invite' part always gets left out of moving up.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 10, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ‘87 Alum on February 10, 2020, 09:15:26 AM
To the AGGIE Nation,

I wish you nothing but success as you prepare to move to a different conference. I’m sure the decision made wasn’t easy or popular. Again, best of luck going forward. Continue to strive for greatness and excellence!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 10, 2020, 09:23:29 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 10, 2020, 09:34:56 AM
If you can slash $500K from your budget you do have to take a look. The bigger question seems to be that it wasn't asked to the alums and future alums, the student body. $500K may not seem to be a lot, but I'm sure it is to every MEAC school.

People in charge obviously are predicting that the anger will subside and there is room for the rivalry games to be played.  Those games obviously will be even more intense.

If the MEAC hierarchy feel that its members are straining under the weight of travel both financially and student quality of life perhaps they commission a study.  Perhaps it could convince the SWAC to extend our Florida members and invitation to move if the study proved to be a more beneficial fit for all involved.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on February 10, 2020, 10:27:32 AM
Why would the Florida school want to move to the SWAC?  The MEAC is a better ran conference with the top HBCU's in the country.  The MEAC has it all academically,  They are growing athletically and better than the group our friends in Greensboro have chosen to associate.   The BS conference basketball tournament is in Asheville, NC.  Have a Hampton alum attend and said it was poorly attended and compared it to watching grass grow.  It was his first and last BS tournament.  Unlike the CIAA or MEAC fan who mostly stay around for the championship game even when their teams are out - the BS scat the moment the buzzer beeps  when their teams are out.   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 10, 2020, 10:34:51 AM
Now would be a good time for A&T to develop a fan base. Maybe hire one or two more to do fund raising and ticket sales.

Why would the Florida school want to move to the SWAC?  The MEAC is a better ran conference with the top HBCU's in the country.  The MEAC has it all academically,  They are growing athletically and better than the group our friends in Greensboro have chosen to associate.   The BS conference basketball tournament is in Asheville, NC.  Have a Hampton alum attend and said it was poorly attended and compared it to watching grass grow.  It was his first and last BS tournament.  Unlike the CIAA or MEAC fan who mostly stay around for the championship game even when their teams are out - the BS scat the moment the buzzer beeps  when their teams are out.   

For the most part, the days of staying after your team loses is over.  In D1 that has been the case.  There is a little history behind staying for the whole CIAA Tournament.

Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 10, 2020, 10:39:15 AM
Why would the Florida school want to move to the SWAC?  The MEAC is a better ran conference with the top HBCU's in the country.  The MEAC has it all academically,  They are growing athletically and better than the group our friends in Greensboro have chosen to associate.   The BS conference basketball tournament is in Asheville, NC.  Have a Hampton alum attend and said it was poorly attended and compared it to watching grass grow.  It was his first and last BS tournament.  Unlike the CIAA or MEAC fan who mostly stay around for the championship game even when their teams are out - the BS scat the moment the buzzer beeps  when their teams are out.

2021 - 2023 Big South Tournament is in Charlotte , NC

https://bigsouthsports.com/news/2019/11/19/mens-basketball-big-south-awards-2021-23-basketball-championship-to-charlotte-and-bojangles-coliseum.aspx?path=mbball
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 10, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
Why would the Florida school want to move to the SWAC?  The MEAC is a better ran conference with the top HBCU's in the country.  The MEAC has it all academically,  They are growing athletically and better than the group our friends in Greensboro have chosen to associate.   The BS conference basketball tournament is in Asheville, NC.  Have a Hampton alum attend and said it was poorly attended and compared it to watching grass grow.  It was his first and last BS tournament.  Unlike the CIAA or MEAC fan who mostly stay around for the championship game even when their teams are out - the BS scat the moment the buzzer beeps  when their teams are out.
So why is everybody bailing to go to a lesser conference? Make it make sense.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 10, 2020, 10:57:37 AM
If you can slash $500M from your budget you do have to take a look. The bigger question seems to be that it wasn't asked to the alums and future alums, the student body. $500M may not seem to be a lot, but I'm sure it is to every MEAC school.

People in charge obviously are predicting that the anger will subside and there is room for the rivalry games to be played.  Those games obviously will be even more intense.

If the MEAC hierarchy feel that its members are straining under the weight of travel both financially and student quality of life perhaps they commission a study.  Perhaps it could convince the SWAC to extend our Florida members and invitation to move if the study proved to be a more beneficial fit for all involved.
Where in the world did you get that number from? Freaking P5 don't have a $500 million budget
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 10, 2020, 11:43:02 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 10, 2020, 11:56:29 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

Athletically they are weak.  They rarely beat anyone that is not an HBCU. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 10, 2020, 02:33:51 PM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

Athletically they are weak.  They rarely beat anyone that is not an HBCU.

FSU is weaker, who have ya'll beat other than an HBCU. But the reason we are all weak is because it takes money to be competitive. Its this poorness that's cause the need for having HBCU's. They give poor people a second chance. Together we are strong. If every HBCU moved to an all white conference, how long do you think they would exist? How many marginal black students would get a second chance?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 10, 2020, 03:20:00 PM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

Athletically they are weak.  They rarely beat anyone that is not an HBCU.

FSU is weaker, who have ya'll beat other than an HBCU. But the reason we are all weak is because it takes money to be competitive. Its this poorness that's cause the need for having HBCU's. They give poor people a second chance. Together we are strong. If every HBCU moved to an all white conference, how long do you think they would exist? How many marginal black students would get a second chance?

Reading is Fundamental.  I'm not talking about a school.  The MEAC is not a school.  The MEAC is a weak conference.  A&T being able to beat a PWC doesn't help the conference when everyone else is getting blown out.  When A&T moves to the Big South they will probably only schedule one MEAC school.  Most likely, NCCU.  Playing more would hurt their strength of schedule come playoff time. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 10, 2020, 03:59:23 PM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

How has moving to the Big South stopped A&T from educating Black People? How does this hurt the East Greensboro Community?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 10, 2020, 04:25:48 PM
Let's see how diverse the football and basketball teams become...............

and I'll add that all those schools, maybe Asheville excepted have rich parents................
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 10, 2020, 04:47:16 PM
Why would the Florida school want to move to the SWAC?  The MEAC is a better ran conference with the top HBCU's in the country.  The MEAC has it all academically,  They are growing athletically and better than the group our friends in Greensboro have chosen to associate.   The BS conference basketball tournament is in Asheville, NC.  Have a Hampton alum attend and said it was poorly attended and compared it to watching grass grow.  It was his first and last BS tournament.  Unlike the CIAA or MEAC fan who mostly stay around for the championship game even when their teams are out - the BS scat the moment the buzzer beeps  when their teams are out.

Both conferences have equal quality in their schools. Besides, FAMU is probably the best academic HBCU overall, so they carry the torch with them wherever they go. They do not need the MEAC, the MEAC needs them.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 10, 2020, 05:03:08 PM
If you can slash $500M from your budget you do have to take a look. The bigger question seems to be that it wasn't asked to the alums and future alums, the student body. $500M may not seem to be a lot, but I'm sure it is to every MEAC school.

People in charge obviously are predicting that the anger will subside and there is room for the rivalry games to be played.  Those games obviously will be even more intense.

If the MEAC hierarchy feel that its members are straining under the weight of travel both financially and student quality of life perhaps they commission a study.  Perhaps it could convince the SWAC to extend our Florida members and invitation to move if the study proved to be a more beneficial fit for all involved.
Where in the world did you get that number from? Freaking P5 don't have a $500 million budget


sorry, 500K
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 10, 2020, 05:54:01 PM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

How has moving to the Big South stopped A&T from educating Black People? How does this hurt the East Greensboro Community?

Reading is Fundamental.  I'll break it down for you. This is a sports forum.  The OP is about sports. The MEAC is an athletic (sports) conference. 

I'm surprised you went  :offtopic:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 10, 2020, 07:45:10 PM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.



Yes they are.  Some o their alumni are trying to paint a good picture, but it's not.  Hope they enjoy their new conference and don't call the MEAC schools to to pad their pockets and fill their stadium. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 11, 2020, 09:34:59 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.



Yes they are.  Some o their alumni are trying to paint a good picture, but it's not.  Hope they enjoy their new conference and don't call the MEAC schools to to pad their pockets and fill their stadium.

Lol, y'all will be the 1st in line 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 11, 2020, 10:39:28 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

Athletically they are weak.  They rarely beat anyone that is not an HBCU.

FSU is weaker, who have ya'll beat other than an HBCU. But the reason we are all weak is because it takes money to be competitive. Its this poorness that's cause the need for having HBCU's. They give poor people a second chance. Together we are strong. If every HBCU moved to an all white conference, how long do you think they would exist? How many marginal black students would get a second chance?

Reading is Fundamental.  I'm not talking about a school.  The MEAC is not a school.  The MEAC is a weak conference.  A&T being able to beat a PWC doesn't help the conference when everyone else is getting blown out.  When A&T moves to the Big South they will probably only schedule one MEAC school.  Most likely, NCCU.  Playing more would hurt their strength of schedule come playoff time.

The schools being poor is what makes the conference weak. Just like the CIAA is basically weak. Overall, in all sports, FSU is one of the weakest schools in the CI.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AimHigh on February 11, 2020, 10:41:18 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South - Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South - Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 11, 2020, 10:45:27 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.



Yes they are.  Some o their alumni are trying to paint a good picture, but it's not.  Hope they enjoy their new conference and don't call the MEAC schools to to pad their pockets and fill their stadium.

Lol, y'all will be the 1st in line

No we want. We can look in the mirror and see the importance the HBCU experience has played in our lives and community. Just knowing we had sister schools with similar struggles is whats make it so great. You guys are sellouts. Now you will be wanting the benefits of being black but hanging out with the whites. Its like playing ball across town at the PWS, but wanting to date the girls at the HBCU.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 11, 2020, 10:47:06 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins


Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AimHigh on February 11, 2020, 10:58:55 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Cub 7 on February 11, 2020, 11:12:22 AM

"The schools being poor is what makes the conference weak. Just like the CIAA is basically weak. Overall, in all sports, FSU is one of the weakest schools in the CI.

You've com to that conclusion how?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 11, 2020, 11:25:56 AM
The MEAC is a very weak conference.  A&T is moving to a stronger conference.  A&T might play one HBCU each year.  Playing more would severely hurt their strength of schedule. The Aggies might not have considered this move if the overwhelming majority of MEAC schools had bothered to compete.

The MEAC is very strong when it comes to educating and providing strength to our culture and communities. Some of you ignore those facts, just to be able to run the curts with anybody that has more resources. Being an HBCU is far more than sports. A&T has simply sold the black community out.

Athletically they are weak.  They rarely beat anyone that is not an HBCU.

FSU is weaker, who have ya'll beat other than an HBCU. But the reason we are all weak is because it takes money to be competitive. Its this poorness that's cause the need for having HBCU's. They give poor people a second chance. Together we are strong. If every HBCU moved to an all white conference, how long do you think they would exist? How many marginal black students would get a second chance?

Reading is Fundamental.  I'm not talking about a school.  The MEAC is not a school.  The MEAC is a weak conference.  A&T being able to beat a PWC doesn't help the conference when everyone else is getting blown out.  When A&T moves to the Big South they will probably only schedule one MEAC school.  Most likely, NCCU.  Playing more would hurt their strength of schedule come playoff time.

The schools being poor is what makes the conference weak. Just like the CIAA is basically weak. Overall, in all sports, FSU is one of the weakest schools in the CI.

Reading is Fundamental.  If you were paying attention, you would have noticed I didn't a particular school in the MEAC.  I stated the conference is weak.  Too bad your deflection and shade won't work.  It would be nice if you would stay on topic.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 11, 2020, 11:29:21 AM

"The schools being poor is what makes the conference weak. Just like the CIAA is basically weak. Overall, in all sports, FSU is one of the weakest schools in the CI.

You've com to that conclusion how?

He has no clue.  He can't admit that the MEAC is a weak conference.  FSU has nothing to do with the MEAC being a bottom feeding conference. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: WileECoyote06 on February 11, 2020, 11:33:18 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 11, 2020, 11:55:54 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: WileECoyote06 on February 11, 2020, 12:33:31 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 11, 2020, 12:41:43 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: punchy on February 11, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

I have to agree with this. The schools in the MEAC already knew about travel in the MEAC since forever. So,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: WileECoyote06 on February 11, 2020, 01:43:54 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/

So yall took advantage of an opportunity to leave, which is what I said.  Talks about four additional MEAC schools leaving for the Big South is practically absurd.  Alongside Hampton and A&T, that would have meant six schools had an opportunity to do something (perhaps even something radical) about the situtation, but let it fester.  As fans, we blame Thomas for everything, when he's a proxy at best.

Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 11, 2020, 01:47:36 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk

I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/

So yall took advantage of an opportunity to leave, which is what I said.  Talks about four additional MEAC schools leaving for the Big South is practically absurd.  Alongside Hampton and A&T, that would have meant six schools had an opportunity to do something (perhaps even something radical) about the situtation, but let it fester.  As fans, we blame Thomas for everything, when he's a proxy at best.

We made the best decision for A&T. Hell A&T voted against CB. Our leadership hasn't been happy with Thomas for awhile , and apparently it boiled over and we left. If the MEAC is happy with him, so be it.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: G-Ram on February 11, 2020, 02:10:00 PM
Just go ahead and admit it. You don’t want to be called the Black National Champions. You want to be called the National Champions.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: westcoastaggie on February 11, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
Just go ahead and admit it. You don’t want to be called the Black National Champions. You want to be called the National Champions.

How about both?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 11, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

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I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

I have to agree with this. The schools in the MEAC already knew about travel in the MEAC since forever. So,,,,,,,,
That's what so damn crazy about the entire thing. Their excuse is they are doing it because of travel. But than some question why FAMU would go to the SWAC. So basically if FAMU follow this insanity. They will still have the same exact problem.  Mane if they don't stop with the bullisht.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 11, 2020, 03:51:59 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.

The truth of the matter hurts....because we are HBCUs.....
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 11, 2020, 06:16:46 PM
Did the MEAC have Women's sports when the conference formed?  I think women's sports may have blew up the budgets.  Football and basketball should be able to pay for themselves.  The number of non-revenue sports that the conference sponsors really places stress on athletic budgets.  Scholarships, coaches, equipment, travel, etc

I maybe going up the wrong tree
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 11, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk

I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/

So yall took advantage of an opportunity to leave, which is what I said.  Talks about four additional MEAC schools leaving for the Big South is practically absurd.  Alongside Hampton and A&T, that would have meant six schools had an opportunity to do something (perhaps even something radical) about the situtation, but let it fester.  As fans, we blame Thomas for everything, when he's a proxy at best.

We made the best decision for A&T. Hell A&T voted against CB. Our leadership hasn't been happy with Thomas for awhile , and apparently it boiled over and we left. If the MEAC is happy with him, so be it.



How was this the best decision for a&t when the majority of your supporters were caught off guard with this announcement?  It seemed to have been shoved down your throats with some key talking points.  This is trump 101.  The talking points are, shorter traveling, move towards a higher div, we will still play Central, NSU and FAMU, knowing good and well those games are not guaranteed.  Why would ANY MEAC team be interested in helping a&t transition as if you never left the MEAC?  Enjoy your last year in the MEAC.  We are going to be done for a while.       
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 12, 2020, 01:47:27 AM
Did the MEAC have Women's sports when the conference formed?  I think women's sports may have blew up the budgets.  Football and basketball should be able to pay for themselves.  The number of non-revenue sports that the conference sponsors really places stress on athletic budgets.  Scholarships, coaches, equipment, travel, etc

I maybe going up the wrong tree
Title nine effected everyone and it's been around for decades

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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 12, 2020, 09:30:27 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk

I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/

So yall took advantage of an opportunity to leave, which is what I said.  Talks about four additional MEAC schools leaving for the Big South is practically absurd.  Alongside Hampton and A&T, that would have meant six schools had an opportunity to do something (perhaps even something radical) about the situtation, but let it fester.  As fans, we blame Thomas for everything, when he's a proxy at best.

We made the best decision for A&T. Hell A&T voted against CB. Our leadership hasn't been happy with Thomas for awhile , and apparently it boiled over and we left. If the MEAC is happy with him, so be it.



How was this the best decision for a&t when the majority of your supporters were caught off guard with this announcement?  It seemed to have been shoved down your throats with some key talking points.  This is trump 101.  The talking points are, shorter traveling, move towards a higher div, we will still play Central, NSU and FAMU, knowing good and well those games are not guaranteed.  Why would ANY MEAC team be interested in helping a&t transition as if you never left the MEAC?  Enjoy your last year in the MEAC.  We are going to be done for a while.     

Our AD has been talking about travel costs since 2015. This isn't the 1st time we heard about the Big South. We just didn't know it would be this soon. We have been looking at COAS as well ( Cost of Attendance Stipend).

As far as future schedules we will be fine.  the blueprint has been laid. We will play 7 conference games ,a FBS and a mixture of  HBCU & PWC FCS schools. NCCU only sale out other than your homecoming and that is A&T. I doubt NCCU is just going to walk away from A&T. But we shall see.

2021 - we only need 1 game which i assume NCCU will be offered 1st. If you don't take it , i'm sure FAMU, NSU or SCSU will.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 12, 2020, 09:51:00 AM
Big South Football 2021
North Carolina A&T
Monmouth
Kennesaw State
Charleston Southern
Campbell
Gardner-Webb
Hampton
North Alabama

MEAC Football 2021 Season
South Carolina State
Bethune-Cookman
Norfolk State
North Carolina Central
Morgan State
Howard
Delaware State
Florida A&M

7 conference games and 4 Out of Conference games. Everyone wins

Or soon down the road looking something like this.

Big South Northern Division
Hampton
Norfolk State
Campbell
North Carolina Central
North Carolina A&T
Gardner-Webb

Big South Southern Division
Charleston Southern
SC State
Kennesaw State
North Alabama
Florida A&M
Bethune-Cookman

You can't be serious.

Yes I see four more possible defections to the Big South, for the same reasons Hampton and A&T joined.

We're using the conference (which is basically us) as an excuse to defect for lower travel costs instead of having the balls to change our own conference.  If four more possibly defect, then why don't those same four advocate to expel the southern teams?  Aren't the southern teams the problem? 

I like and have a great deal of respect for FAMU and BCU and consider FAMU a flagship within the conference.  But if the southern schools are the problem, why is everyone considering the easy way out?  There is no solution to solve this problem, unless we can recruit more southern teams.  It is what it is.
I got no dog in this fight.  But you can't expel a school just because you don't want to travel and play them.  DAMN!!! smh...

Sent from my SM-T530NU using Tapatalk

I realize that. I was exaggerating to make a greater point.  It's been said on various sites that A&T warned the MEAC to do something about the travel for years. . .who the heck was Martin warning?  Himself?  A&T left because A&T had an opportunity. . nothing more nothing less. 

This move puts the rest of us at a short term disadvantage. However, unless the entire conference dissolves, I don't envision four schools defecting to the Big South because of travel costs.

He warned Thomas. A&T first started talking about this in 2015 And so has FAMU. They started in 14. Why do you think Savannah State got in. To help Southern teams travel.

Same reason MEAC was trying to get AA&M and ASU to the MEAC to appease FAMU, BCU and A&T. 

https://hbcugameday.com/2014/09/15/report-says-famu-should-consider-jumping-to-swac/

https://hbcugameday.com/2017/06/14/real-rumor-alabama-state-aamu-meac/

So yall took advantage of an opportunity to leave, which is what I said.  Talks about four additional MEAC schools leaving for the Big South is practically absurd.  Alongside Hampton and A&T, that would have meant six schools had an opportunity to do something (perhaps even something radical) about the situtation, but let it fester.  As fans, we blame Thomas for everything, when he's a proxy at best.

We made the best decision for A&T. Hell A&T voted against CB. Our leadership hasn't been happy with Thomas for awhile , and apparently it boiled over and we left. If the MEAC is happy with him, so be it.



How was this the best decision for a&t when the majority of your supporters were caught off guard with this announcement?  It seemed to have been shoved down your throats with some key talking points.  This is trump 101.  The talking points are, shorter traveling, move towards a higher div, we will still play Central, NSU and FAMU, knowing good and well those games are not guaranteed.  Why would ANY MEAC team be interested in helping a&t transition as if you never left the MEAC?  Enjoy your last year in the MEAC.  We are going to be done for a while.     

What you just said.   :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Bison 4 Life on February 12, 2020, 09:52:22 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQlUmptXkAAIS-g?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 12, 2020, 11:00:43 AM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 12, 2020, 12:59:51 PM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 12, 2020, 01:11:33 PM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!

Lol almost 20 percent enrolled students are non white. But hey, we are wrong lol

 The enrolled student population at Winston-Salem State University is 72.9% Black or African American, 14.9% White, 3.61% Hispanic or Latino, 3.37% Two or More Races, 0.824% Asian, 0.373% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.0196% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders.

https://datausa.io/profile/university/winston-salem-state-university#enrollment
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 12, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!

I think A&T washed their hands of WSSU years ago. It's you on this forum that has been begging for a game. Not A&T.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: soflorattler on February 12, 2020, 02:03:46 PM
It's reported that BCU has already removed the A&T flag from among the MEAC member flags hanging un their gym.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 12, 2020, 02:19:51 PM
It's reported that BCU has already removed the A&T flag from among the MEAC member flags hanging un their gym.

Lol i love it.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on February 12, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQlUmptXkAAIS-g?format=jpg&name=medium)

Not true.  That grass was green year round at Lackland AFB.  Ain't nobody in the Air Force smart enough to make artificial grass grow.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 13, 2020, 06:34:20 PM
These are the football games already on the books for 2021 for A&T, so I guess we will pick up 1 or 2 non-conference games.

2021
09/04 - at Furman
09/11 - Charleston Southern
TBA - at Duke
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 13, 2020, 08:43:43 PM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!

Lol almost 20 percent enrolled students are non white. But hey, we are wrong lol

 The enrolled student population at Winston-Salem State University is 72.9% Black or African American, 14.9% White, 3.61% Hispanic or Latino, 3.37% Two or More Races, 0.824% Asian, 0.373% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.0196% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders.

https://datausa.io/profile/university/winston-salem-state-university#enrollment

Almost comical.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 14, 2020, 09:37:26 AM
These are the football games already on the books for 2021 for A&T, so I guess we will pick up 1 or 2 non-conference games.

2021
09/04 - at Furman
09/11 - Charleston Southern
TBA - at Duke

We will have 2 games to add. Charleston Southern is a conference game. We have 7 conf games and 4 non conference
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: AggieManiac704 on February 14, 2020, 02:22:53 PM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!

That bold part......is kinda exactly what we're doing.......whew lawd
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 14, 2020, 07:27:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnEPTG6K4pY
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on February 15, 2020, 03:13:54 AM
It's reported that BCU has already removed the A&T flag from among the MEAC member flags hanging un their gym.

The fact that a few schools don’t carry banners of any other school in their arena this is not a big deal that they aren’t giving free advertisement for other schools.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: ncsiacfan on February 15, 2020, 09:41:20 AM
A high school coach and athletic director commenting on intercollegiate athletics. This is ridiculous. The paper was ridiculous for publishing the article. I wonder if they had to search hard to find a brother who would express their viewpoint.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 15, 2020, 10:38:18 AM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation? 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on February 15, 2020, 10:42:17 AM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bluedog on February 15, 2020, 11:51:05 AM
Good article in Tallahassee Newspaper

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/sports/college/famu/2020/02/07/famu-rival-n-c-a-t-leave-meac-2021/4679521002/

Tyrone McGriff knows all too well about the logistics of money matters with athletics. The former FAMU football player now serves as the athletics director at Florida High School.

He expressed sadness about the loss of league rivalry games with the Aggies. However, McGriff wants FAMU to position itself for athletic sustainability – even if it means parting ways with the MEAC.

"NCAT has been a valued rival of FAMU for years. The two institutions both have rich athletic legacies and an even more profound mark on African-American culture. Seeing them leave the MEAC is bittersweet because of our long-lasting relationship, but maybe needed," he said.

"HBCUs have to evolve with the current trends in intercollegiate athletics. Conference alignment is pivotal in program growth and development. I hope our administrators look at the current moves taking place and consider joining a conference more reasonable for us in travel and for revenue-generating."

Wrong. I guess he have learned nothing from the age of Donald Trump and his supporters (Big South). Black Colleges need to stick together more now than ever. Every time one of us say we need to diversify, the closer we are to not existing. This "Make America Great Again" country can't wait to close our schools. Our needs still exist as they have more than 150 years ago. What needs to change is how we spend our money and knowing who we really are. If our costs are too high we need to move down... not move over.

But if you insist on justifying a dumb concept in moving, then do so. Just leave the rest of us alone. This will be my last post directed at those clowns in Greensboro.

GOOD BY!
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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Aggie D. on February 15, 2020, 03:12:00 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.       
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 15, 2020, 03:18:47 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on February 15, 2020, 04:19:16 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

The schools that have moved to the Big South made is known that they each were exploring options to move to other conferences. I’ve never heard of a school holding a town hall for a Conference move.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 15, 2020, 04:36:22 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

In corporate America mergers, acquisitions and joint ventures usually occur without direct involvement or input of stakeholders. Folks always saying we need to run our institutions like a business.....but when we do they have complaints?

We don't require our leadership to check with us on key decisions. We have the appropriate governing structure in place to balance us out. Based on their track record which is mighty damn impressive our AD and Chancellor are adequately empowered to act in our best interests.
A&T Athletics have been amongst the most well run in the country over the last 5 years. Almost all of our athletic teams are competing for championships, football hbcu champs 4 out of last 5 years, bowling and track nationally ranked, no apr issues, men and women all sport champs and booster club now raising over 1 million per year.......and you want to question  the motives and methodology of our AD and chancellor. Man get out of here with that bs!!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Que82 on February 15, 2020, 06:43:02 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?
Now this ^^^ is the best question in this thread.  :nod:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 15, 2020, 07:48:26 PM
Decks, your last post, apples & oranges at best.  When NCC decided to move up, most alumni were in the loop even though there were some against it. Making a huge decision like this is going to call for support from your fans.  Don't Assume that they will blindly follow you. Good luck and enjoy your last season in the MEAC!  Hate to see you go, but we are not going to pretend that you are still in the MEAC.  Find other schools to schedule.       
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 16, 2020, 12:39:01 PM
Decks, your last post, apples & oranges at best.  When NCC decided to move up, most alumni were in the loop even though there were some against it. Making a huge decision like this is going to call for support from your fans.  Don't Assume that they will blindly follow you. Good luck and enjoy your last season in the MEAC!  Hate to see you go, but we are not going to pretend that you are still in the MEAC.  Find other schools to schedule.       


You have your way of doing things and we have our way. No doubt we have a lot of supporters who are currently not on board with this move. Perhaps more against than we have in favor. As I tell everyone winning takes care of everything. If we go to the BSC kicking butt everything will be fine.

If you don't want us on nccu schedule going forward then I am not the person to complain to just as you're probably not a decision maker for eagle Athletics. Just go voice your concerns to Dr. Wicker-McCree. Lol, just make sure you record her response.   ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 16, 2020, 07:18:05 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

Perhaps you ask your fellow aggies. They seem to think that’s next.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 16, 2020, 07:20:46 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

In corporate America mergers, acquisitions and joint ventures usually occur without direct involvement or input of stakeholders. Folks always saying we need to run our institutions like a business.....but when we do they have complaints?

We don't require our leadership to check with us on key decisions. We have the appropriate governing structure in place to balance us out. Based on their track record which is mighty damn impressive our AD and Chancellor are adequately empowered to act in our best interests.
A&T Athletics have been amongst the most well run in the country over the last 5 years. Almost all of our athletic teams are competing for championships, football hbcu champs 4 out of last 5 years, bowling and track nationally ranked, no apr issues, men and women all sport champs and booster club now raising over 1 million per year.......and you want to question  the motives and methodology of our AD and chancellor. Man get out of here with that bs!!

BTW, how many of y’all giving 5, 6 figures to a&t?
I’m talking BEFORE the decimal. FBS gonna need y’all to step to the next digit.

That’s why this decision should be discussed with alums & supporters.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 16, 2020, 08:07:43 PM
Decks, your last post, apples & oranges at best.  When NCC decided to move up, most alumni were in the loop even though there were some against it. Making a huge decision like this is going to call for support from your fans.  Don't Assume that they will blindly follow you. Good luck and enjoy your last season in the MEAC!  Hate to see you go, but we are not going to pretend that you are still in the MEAC.  Find other schools to schedule.       


You have your way of doing things and we have our way. No doubt we have a lot of supporters who are currently not on board with this move. Perhaps more against than we have in favor. As I tell everyone winning takes care of everything. If we go to the BSC kicking butt everything will be fine.

If you don't want us on nccu schedule going forward then I am not the person to complain to just as you're probably not a decision maker for eagle Athletics. Just go voice your concerns to Dr. Wicker-McCree. Lol, just make sure you record her response.   ;D



I didn't say Central wouldn't play you guys.  I said I will not be going to Greensboro for any games.  I was going Monday, but canceled.  Thank goodness I didn't purchase a ticket.  Oh, I did say if it was up to me, which it is not, I wouldn't play you guys for a while. 
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 17, 2020, 01:13:32 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 17, 2020, 02:02:03 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 17, 2020, 02:13:11 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 17, 2020, 02:21:25 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Cats4ever on February 17, 2020, 09:27:58 PM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*

The Big South doesn't look that stable.
This move does not appear to make good business senses in that the Aggies are giving up the potential move and exposure from the CB,  I recalled SCSU got 225K to play GA Tech one year, but the Aggies got half million for playing in the CB,  How much does going to the play-offs put in your pocket?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 09:43:33 AM
Only four of the full-time members play football in the Big South.

Presbyterian is leaving
Okay and... *shurgs*

The Big South doesn't look that stable.
This move does not appear to make good business senses in that the Aggies are giving up the potential move and exposure from the CB,  I recalled SCSU got 225K to play GA Tech one year, but the Aggies got half million for playing in the CB,  How much does going to the play-offs put in your pocket?

How much do you get when you don't play in the CB? Travel Savings are in excess of 500k a year. So you want guaranteed savings or the hope you win the MEAC every year for 500?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 18, 2020, 10:00:09 AM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.

Elaborate....

Not hard to confuse me at this point in life, but if travel was the main reason how do you explain aspirations to move to FBS where travel probably be longer and charter plane rides aren't cheaper than bus rides which the Big South would basically be especially during basketball season.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 10:38:17 AM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.

Elaborate....

Not hard to confuse me at this point in life, but if travel was the main reason how do you explain aspirations to move to FBS where travel probably be longer and charter plane rides aren't cheaper than bus rides which the Big South would basically be especially during basketball season.

Conference payout from bowl games covers that. Big South passed out 1.7 million per school from bowl games.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 18, 2020, 10:41:34 AM
did you mean to say Big South and bowl games?  Not aware they played bowl games
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 10:51:26 AM
did you mean to say Big South and bowl games?  Not aware they played bowl games

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

Bowl tie ins brought in 17.2 million in 2018. Or 1.7 million per school.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: westcoastaggie on February 18, 2020, 11:34:57 AM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.

The travel would be covered by the TV money and bowl tie-in cash. And with the divisional format, we wouldn't have to fly out too often to the West Division teams, if we're ever in that conference. What is an issue that needs to be solved are the increase in scholarship and FCOA dollars we'd have to find.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 18, 2020, 02:27:17 PM
did you mean to say Big South and bowl games?  Not aware they played bowl games

Now these fools think they are joining the Sun Belt.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 18, 2020, 03:22:12 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.

The travel would be covered by the TV money and bowl tie-in cash. And with the divisional format, we wouldn't have to fly out too often to the West Division teams, if we're ever in that conference. What is an issue that needs to be solved are the increase in scholarship and FCOA dollars we'd have to find.

???

wouldn't the scholarships and FCOA be greater than the $500K savings? 

Y'all claim one thing and with the other hand plotting something else that ain't adding up.  I'm just trying to understand, but my FIRST question again is always this, has the Sun Belt made you an offer?  How about allude a chance of membership?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 03:52:31 PM
did you mean to say Big South and bowl games?  Not aware they played bowl games

Now these fools think they are joining the Sun Belt.   :lmao:

No one said we think , that is the goal , FYI ... I thought you were done discussing this
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
I have one question about schools moving to the big south.  Why is the move not discussed with the school’s supporters and public before it is made?  Hampton’s move was a total mess, and A&T’s move is not any better. 
Why are things so undercover?  Are the schools doing thing that may not be in the best interest of the groups they do not speak with?  When you look at Hampton’s situation with scheduling, and lost of interest in their games, why would any other school want to be put in that situation?

Come on man, are you serious? You can’t make decisions like this in the open public.

Hell, we would still be in the CIAA if we had  discussed creating the MEAC 50 years ago.

Hampton's conference exit was a complete mess because they announced they were leaving the MEAC in less than eight months, wanted to continue playing a MEAC schedule following their departure including competing for conference championships, got pissed when the MEAC would not oblige their request, and then had the nerve to take their feud with the conference public.  Our departure from the MEAC is planned out, not rushed, and gives everyone time to properly prepare. 

I’m not going to front; the news of this move is shocking, and I think it is a gutsy move by our leadership especially considering the historic and significance of N.C. A & T being a founding, full participant in all sports, and never wavering member of the MEAC.  Time will tell if this gamble pays off.  I am optimistic because 1.) our leadership (specifically our Board of Trustees, Chancellor, and Athletic Director) have proven to be successful with other measures that continue to transform the university and move us forward.  2.) Our athletic department have sustaining winning programs in the majority of the MEAC sports in which we compete.  I don’t see this move in no way as N.C. A & T snubbing the MEAC or “selling out” HBCUs and Black culture.  Knowing our leadership, the Big South is just the first step to transitioning our athletic programs to eventually a higher competitive conference at the FBS level.     

Why would we go FBS if we don't want students to travel more than necessary?

It would be a regional FBS conference. Such as the Sunbelt.

The Sun Belt Conference has 6 teams west of the Mississippi River. But I guess money won't be an issue at that point. All of our teams will fly to games.

Maybe we would have divisions

The Sunbelt already has divisions. On the East division they have Georgia State , Georgia Southern , Coastal Carolina, App State and Troy.

The main thing would be the bowl tie ins and the conference payout from bowl season. 10 schools split 17.2 million in 2018 or 1.7 million per school.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/college/asu/source-sun-belt-conference-to-receive-million-from-cfp-the/article_7279a23c-b6c8-5b69-bef7-f1ef11bc849b.html

Sun Belt Bowl Ties, Affiliations
Highest-ranked champion from the AAC, C-USA, MAC, MW & Sun Belt will play in a New Year’s Six bowl.

The Sun Belt doesn’t have a true pecking order after the champion goes to the New Orleans Bowl. The bowl match ups are based on best possible games and geography.

1.  R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl vs. Mountain West
2. Dollar General Bowl vs. MAC
3. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl vs. MAC
4. AutoNation Cure Bowl vs. American Athletic
5.  NOVA Home Loans Arizona Bowl vs. Mountain West

I'm worried about the nonrevenue sports travel.

The travel would be covered by the TV money and bowl tie-in cash. And with the divisional format, we wouldn't have to fly out too often to the West Division teams, if we're ever in that conference. What is an issue that needs to be solved are the increase in scholarship and FCOA dollars we'd have to find.

???

wouldn't the scholarships and FCOA be greater than the $500K savings? 

Y'all claim one thing and with the other hand plotting something else that ain't adding up.  I'm just trying to understand, but my FIRST question again is always this, has the Sun Belt made you an offer?  How about allude a chance of membership?

At the FBS level no. At the FCS yes.

Is there an Sunbelt offer on the table. Nope. Are we positioning ourselves to get one yes. FAMU was almost a member back in the early 00s.

What keeps being expressed is movement is coming among the conferences, A&T is positioning itself to become a part of it.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 18, 2020, 04:07:49 PM
my question about the scholarships and other was about the FBS level.  So save and then you anticipate spending even more. Must be that 'new math' I heard about in the '60s. Makes little sense to me, but it ain't my money.

You gonna pony up more money annually to support it?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 18, 2020, 05:06:13 PM
my question about the scholarships and other was about the FBS level.  So save and then you anticipate spending even more. Must be that 'new math' I heard about in the '60s. Makes little sense to me, but it ain't my money.

You gonna pony up more money annually to support it?

22 scholarships...... with us hitting our fundraising goals , i think we will be able to. That's years away tho. So we are able to raise and stash cash till then

I'm already a member of the AAF
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bigriq on February 19, 2020, 09:37:58 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: SSUTigerFan on February 19, 2020, 10:00:38 PM
I live less than 25 minutes from Ga. Southern.  Since moving to the FBS level, they are irrelevant.  No one is excited about playing sun belt schools, with. the exception of App. State, which was their rival already.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 19, 2020, 10:57:11 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Jay_Thomas on February 20, 2020, 09:21:01 AM
I live less than 25 minutes from Ga. Southern.  Since moving to the FBS level, they are irrelevant.  No one is excited about playing sun belt schools, with. the exception of App. State, which was their rival already.



Bruh, you are absolutely right. I no longer hear any buzz about the Mighty Eagles of Gawga Suuuthuuun knocking down teams in the FCS. I rarely even hear anything from alums of the school that I know...interesting. Oh well... :popcorn:


 :nod: STILL wishing much success to the Aggies and those Pirates.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Boy you in your feelings about this lol
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 20, 2020, 10:14:42 AM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Boy you in your feelings about this lol

He's madder than some Aggies I've seen. Good luck...See y'all in September.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 20, 2020, 10:21:48 AM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Platinum_Sound on February 20, 2020, 10:50:07 AM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.


Some of y'all are looking wayyyyy too deep into this....Especially for this to be a school that y'all hate so much....
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 20, 2020, 11:18:04 AM
It's real simple. The leadership of the University believes that the move to the Big South is best for the student-athletes and the University. The fans are being asked to accept this decision. A&T will play a few HBCUs each year but things will be different.

There is no turning back now.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 20, 2020, 11:33:04 AM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: westcoastaggie on February 20, 2020, 11:49:11 AM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.

As someone that actually knows the man and have known him for about 15+ years now, I can honestly say you are a very sad individual that knows 0 about this situation. :no:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 12:15:37 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.

Guess this same AD didn't have the black community at heart when he helped make A&T into an athletic powerhouse.

This is a sad day for you sir. Making the claim that a man's skin determines his thoughts and vision for the university he works for.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 12:16:12 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

And if time proves this to be successful , then what?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 12:16:47 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.


Some of y'all are looking wayyyyy too deep into this....Especially for this to be a school that y'all hate so much....

Facts. Great post
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 20, 2020, 12:25:21 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.


Some of y'all are looking wayyyyy too deep into this....Especially for this to be a school that y'all hate so much....

The hate that you speak of is not really hatred for the school but a dislike of the sports. There is a huge difference. Outside of sports they are our brothers with the same historical background. We share in the idea of providing blacks with educational opportunities, that was and still, aren't available to us for the most part. Some of us recognize that we need each other to survive. That school belongs to "ALL" blacks. Its not theirs to give up. We should all be upset.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 20, 2020, 12:41:00 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

And if time proves this to be successful , then what?

Then the nay-sayers were wrong. Happy?

There is always an alternative course. In this case growing your fan/alumni/supporter base to the point that 500K wouldn't be an issue.  But wait, it isn't the issue 'cause ultimately you want FBS status where few schools are making money.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 01:25:25 PM
Some thoughts from The HU Pirateship on our time in the Big South and what might be in store for NCA&T:
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3KbUfOEijq17qET2vGnC8q?si=FuKTqNYuR6Cff9R6KPe5qA
Sound Cloud - https://soundcloud.com/thehupirateship/at-joins-the-big-south-episode-55



Listening to those two guys from Hampton talk is just sad.  But Hampton still wants to play some MEAC teams. :shrug:  If the Big South is so much better, lose our numbers.  We are not good enough for you Big South folks. ::)  Talking about selling out. :no:

Just take one look at that school in Greensboro Athletic Director and you can see why A&T sold out. Now tell me that dude has the black community at heart? He's basically saying that playing a few HBCUs a year is okay. The MEAC schools they stop playing are no longer good enough. Every reason he and that dump a**  chancellor are giving for moving is shading both the MEAC schools and the black community in Greensboro. This is a total sellout and every black college should stop playing them. This is far more important to just sports. HBCUs relationships with each other are the hearts and souls of the black community. Those Aggies trying to justify this move are also sellouts.


Some of y'all are looking wayyyyy too deep into this....Especially for this to be a school that y'all hate so much....

The hate that you speak of is not really hatred for the school but a dislike of the sports. There is a huge difference. Outside of sports they are our brothers with the same historical background. We share in the idea of providing blacks with educational opportunities, that was and still, aren't available to us for the most part. Some of us recognize that we need each other to survive. That school belongs to "ALL" blacks. Its not theirs to give up. We should all be upset.

Still waiting for you to explain how moving conferences changes the mission of A&T? By your logic , Hampton and Tennessee State aren't HBCU's , have turned their back on the black community and overall mission isn't the better of African Americans.

And i assume that goes for all HBCU's that aren't in an HBCU Conference.

Did Chowan turn their back on their community when they joined a HBCU conf
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 01:28:02 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

And if time proves this to be successful , then what?

Then the nay-sayers were wrong. Happy?

There is always an alternative course. In this case growing your fan/alumni/supporter base to the point that 500K wouldn't be an issue.  But wait, it isn't the issue 'cause ultimately you want FBS status where few schools are making money.

Donations are over a  million annually , We lead the MEAC in attendance in Football, School getting 25k applications ... we are going to be fine lol.

Yes we want to be FBS , to continue build the brand and get some of that bowl money.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 20, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

This will not be a disaster. It may not be as exciting as the MEAC but it will work.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 20, 2020, 02:50:21 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

And if time proves this to be successful , then what?

Then the nay-sayers were wrong. Happy?

There is always an alternative course. In this case growing your fan/alumni/supporter base to the point that 500K wouldn't be an issue.  But wait, it isn't the issue 'cause ultimately you want FBS status where few schools are making money.

Donations are over a  million annually , We lead the MEAC in attendance in Football, School getting 25k applications ... we are going to be fine lol.

Yes we want to be FBS , to continue build the brand and get some of that bowl money.

school enrollment going up is great, but we are talking sports. A million for the MEAC is great, not so much for FBS.  Aren't you aware of few schools make money off sports and regular FBS is even harder.  Quite frankly I'm still wondering about our finances since moving back to the MEAC.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2020, 02:59:59 PM
It may be no turning back right now, however, if time proves this a disaster real leadership recognizes and adjust course.

And if time proves this to be successful , then what?

Then the nay-sayers were wrong. Happy?

There is always an alternative course. In this case growing your fan/alumni/supporter base to the point that 500K wouldn't be an issue.  But wait, it isn't the issue 'cause ultimately you want FBS status where few schools are making money.

Donations are over a  million annually , We lead the MEAC in attendance in Football, School getting 25k applications ... we are going to be fine lol.

Yes we want to be FBS , to continue build the brand and get some of that bowl money.

school enrollment going up is great, but we are talking sports. A million for the MEAC is great, not so much for FBS.  Aren't you aware of few schools make money off sports and regular FBS is even harder.  Quite frankly I'm still wondering about our finances since moving back to the MEAC.

About 20 Division 1 schools make a profit from athletics. There rest are subsidized by student fees or take a loss. You realize that FBS and FCS schools are both Division 1 number.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Wildman78 on February 20, 2020, 05:53:09 PM
19 pages!!! Dayum!!! Carry on.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on February 20, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
BYE. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE a**  ON THE WAY OUT.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 20, 2020, 08:49:45 PM
BYE. DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE a**  ON THE WAY OUT.



 :lol:  I'm like, they are still here trying to convince themselves that this is a great move? :shrug:  Just leave already. :lol:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: A&T AGGIE 96 on February 20, 2020, 09:48:13 PM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: CIAA-FAN on February 21, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...

YOU'LL KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME THAN THAT. BUH-BYE!
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 21, 2020, 02:35:42 PM
This story has received to much coverage.  It is time to let it rest, because no one on this board has any say in what A&T leadership does.  If all the other schools stay in the MEAC, there will be very little impact on the MEAC.

As I have said in the past, a move to the Big South will not work for most of the schools in the MEAC.  The MEAC depends on ticket sales to support their programs, and the Big Schools have large financial supporters. Playing Big South schools may not generate the ticket sales required to support our programs.

In closing, I say bye to A&T, and good luck.

I will miss JBROB.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 21, 2020, 03:19:44 PM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...

YOU'LL KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME THAN THAT. BUH-BYE!


You keep saying bye but still have comments? Feel free to exit from this convo if you dont like what you're reading.


Eagles, I am bookmarking these threads so we can revisit in the future.   ;D
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 21, 2020, 03:49:59 PM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...

YOU'LL KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME THAN THAT. BUH-BYE!


You keep saying bye but still have comments? Feel free to exit from this convo if you dont like what you're reading.


Eagles, I am bookmarking these threads so we can revisit in the future.   ;D

Should I be worried?  Because I have been very nice.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 21, 2020, 04:01:24 PM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...

YOU'LL KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME THAN THAT. BUH-BYE!


You keep saying bye but still have comments? Feel free to exit from this convo if you dont like what you're reading.


Eagles, I am bookmarking these threads so we can revisit in the future.   ;D

Should I be worried?

No, you birds shouldn't be worried. Its not ya'll that's selling out and still wanting to remain relevant to other HBCU'S. Who talks about Tennessee State and Hampton now that they have sold out? Who wants to play them....

Nobody!

A&T hired Donald Trumps brother as AD, and he has taken over that school. Even their fans are trying to justify his dumb ideas. A&T fans reminds me of Samual L. Jackson's character in  Django.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: B-more Eagle on February 21, 2020, 05:28:27 PM
We not going anywhere...this is a HBCU sport board.

This is going to be the biggest HBCU sports story of the year.

NC A&T and it’s last season in the MEAC.

It’s going to be years before we know the true impact...

YOU'LL KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME THAN THAT. BUH-BYE!


You keep saying bye but still have comments? Feel free to exit from this convo if you dont like what you're reading.


Eagles, I am bookmarking these threads so we can revisit in the future.   ;D

Should I be worried?

No, you birds shouldn't be worried. Its not ya'll that's selling out and still wanting to remain relevant to other HBCU'S. Who talks about Tennessee State and Hampton now that they have sold out? Who wants to play them....

Nobody!

A&T hired Donald Trumps brother as AD, and he has taken over that school. Even their fans are trying to justify his dumb ideas. A&T fans reminds me of Samual L. Jackson's character in  Django.  :lol: :lol:

Thank you Ram55, but I am not worried.  I am just waiting.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 22, 2020, 11:02:31 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on February 22, 2020, 12:07:49 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: JBROB on February 22, 2020, 12:48:30 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

Listen to the interview. He wants to someone to explain their concerns about the move so the University can address them.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 22, 2020, 11:22:35 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

this.

I noted that you grow a university through the curriculum taught. They must believe its through a sports conference. I guess the Ivies have it all wrong.  :shrug:

Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 23, 2020, 08:23:04 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Aggie D. on February 23, 2020, 12:58:39 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?  Our Athletic Director can speak to Aggie Pride because he has been at the University for 20-years.   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: eagle pride on February 23, 2020, 05:51:43 PM
These aggies on this board are still strong with those talking points. :no:  Good luck with your new conference...  Do understand, things are going to be different.  You are not moving to continue to be married to the MEAC schools.  Although some MEAC schools may eventually play you, don't move banking on those games. Oh, and close the door behind you on the way out.  :no:   
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: aggie law on February 23, 2020, 06:39:25 PM
And the plot thickens..... :popcorn:
https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200122lh6utq?fbclid=IwAR0NUpIAOksF5-pDNRgvP_02cxWTqde7LGMDj3PHtGaYYf5uriVnlSwIJcU
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 23, 2020, 09:03:09 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: bigriq on February 23, 2020, 09:06:08 PM
And the plot thickens..... :popcorn:
https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200122lh6utq?fbclid=IwAR0NUpIAOksF5-pDNRgvP_02cxWTqde7LGMDj3PHtGaYYf5uriVnlSwIJcU
Somebody is paying attention...
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Aggie D. on February 23, 2020, 10:50:38 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

Hmmm, just like our AD.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on February 24, 2020, 03:32:22 AM
And the plot thickens..... :popcorn:
https://asunsports.org/general/2019-20/releases/20200122lh6utq?fbclid=IwAR0NUpIAOksF5-pDNRgvP_02cxWTqde7LGMDj3PHtGaYYf5uriVnlSwIJcU
Somebody is paying attention...

Very ambitious move. I think in the end something will work out where the A-Sun will end up with an expansion to 16 schools. This YouTube channel idea from their commissioner is a great one.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Decks on February 24, 2020, 08:05:36 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

Huh? Once again, the MAIN reason for going to the Big South is a reduction in travel costs estimated to be at $500k per year.

No one can tell me different because I was in attendance at the initial meeting in 2015 when a detailed power point presentation was given covering this issue. At that time he said he was exploring moving to a more geographically friendly conference.

The AD and Chancellor met with a total of eight other fcs/fbs conferences with offers coming from two, the BSC and the Atlantic Sun. It is also said that an offer was being put together by the Southern Conference. In the end the Big South is the one that made the most sense if our intent is to save on travel costs.

The AD was asked about other reasons and he said there were other benefits to the move, however travel cost was the reason for the move......the same thing he said 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 24, 2020, 09:43:14 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

Huh? Once again, the MAIN reason for going to the Big South is a reduction in travel costs estimated to be at $500k per year.

No one can tell me different because I was in attendance at the initial meeting in 2015 when a detailed power point presentation was given covering this issue. At that time he said he was exploring moving to a more geographically friendly conference.

The AD and Chancellor met with a total of eight other fcs/fbs conferences with offers coming from two, the BSC and the Atlantic Sun. It is also said that an offer was being put together by the Southern Conference. In the end the Big South is the one that made the most sense if our intent is to save on travel costs.

The AD was asked about other reasons and he said there were other benefits to the move, however travel cost was the reason for the move......the same thing he said 5 years ago.

These folks don't want the truth. They want to live in a dream world , let em
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 24, 2020, 09:45:35 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

Hiring an AD that has led us to the having the best athletic department in the HBCU world was a bad hire. Bwhahahaha.


AD of the year in 2019 lol. Just admit it, you hate white people

https://ncataggies.com/news/2019/3/11/211795094.aspx
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on February 24, 2020, 10:10:25 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

Huh? Once again, the MAIN reason for going to the Big South is a reduction in travel costs estimated to be at $500k per year.

No one can tell me different because I was in attendance at the initial meeting in 2015 when a detailed power point presentation was given covering this issue. At that time he said he was exploring moving to a more geographically friendly conference.

The AD and Chancellor met with a total of eight other fcs/fbs conferences with offers coming from two, the BSC and the Atlantic Sun. It is also said that an offer was being put together by the Southern Conference. In the end the Big South is the one that made the most sense if our intent is to save on travel costs.

The AD was asked about other reasons and he said there were other benefits to the move, however travel cost was the reason for the move......the same thing he said 5 years ago.

Y'all have covered all this.  What's missing.......that actually makes sense?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Aggie Blues on February 24, 2020, 10:17:41 AM
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Whew Chile! A&Ts Conference move has unearthed some serious latent issues some of y'all have...


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Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Maroon and Gray on February 24, 2020, 11:04:22 AM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

Huh? Once again, the MAIN reason for going to the Big South is a reduction in travel costs estimated to be at $500k per year.

No one can tell me different because I was in attendance at the initial meeting in 2015 when a detailed power point presentation was given covering this issue. At that time he said he was exploring moving to a more geographically friendly conference.

The AD and Chancellor met with a total of eight other fcs/fbs conferences with offers coming from two, the BSC and the Atlantic Sun. It is also said that an offer was being put together by the Southern Conference. In the end the Big South is the one that made the most sense if our intent is to save on travel costs.

The AD was asked about other reasons and he said there were other benefits to the move, however travel cost was the reason for the move......the same thing he said 5 years ago.


so where did the discussion about moving to FBS come from?

I get you're looking for budget savings, but some aggie did say y'all were also looking to go FBS and those costs were covered with monies distributed to each member school by the conference you would join.

I didn't even mention the welfare of the students because we know money overrules thinking about them.  Weren't student/athletes welfare part of the issue as well?
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Professor on February 24, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

You can't go where you aren't invited. We got 2 invitations to join. Rest were inquiries
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: westcoastaggie on February 24, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

Huh? Once again, the MAIN reason for going to the Big South is a reduction in travel costs estimated to be at $500k per year.

No one can tell me different because I was in attendance at the initial meeting in 2015 when a detailed power point presentation was given covering this issue. At that time he said he was exploring moving to a more geographically friendly conference.

The AD and Chancellor met with a total of eight other fcs/fbs conferences with offers coming from two, the BSC and the Atlantic Sun. It is also said that an offer was being put together by the Southern Conference. In the end the Big South is the one that made the most sense if our intent is to save on travel costs.

The AD was asked about other reasons and he said there were other benefits to the move, however travel cost was the reason for the move......the same thing he said 5 years ago.


so where did the discussion about moving to FBS come from?

I get you're looking for budget savings, but some aggie did say y'all were also looking to go FBS and those costs were covered with monies distributed to each member school by the conference you would join.

I didn't even mention the welfare of the students because we know money overrules thinking about them.  Weren't student/athletes welfare part of the issue as well?

https://hbcugameday.com/2019/08/19/can-ncat-become-the-first-hbcu-to-successfully-move-to-the-fbs/
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: y04185 on March 01, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
A&T is going Big South because Gary Owen's daughter is going there in the fall.  They want her to be comfortable.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Oldschoolram on March 01, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
A&T's Athletic Director, Earl Hilton, was interviewed on Box To Row this morning.
Help us understand how he think he understands black issues enough to talk about Aggie pride. Most of that pride is rooted in the black struggle and not sports. A&T is a national level HBCU and has been one of our main leaders for civil rights. Their hiring this AD was a sellout. Divide and conquer. Take the head and the others will die. This far more than sports. Its funny how traditionally, black men has let a ball dictate his worth.

So moving to another sports conference removes all that? Where was all this outside concern 12-15 years ago when we were struggling?
For all the criticism he's rceiving this AD has saved Aggie Athletics. With all the hbcus we see having financial issues we get flak for cutting 500k in expenses? Even your own school couldn't handle the expenses of D1 but you hypocritically
criticize us for making financially responsible decisions? Man ya'll can take your bs somewhere else.

Furthermore, GTFOH with this sellout narrative you are pushing.  Are other HBCUs sellouts for having non-Black professors, coaches, employees, and students?

No, because those non-Blacks are AT a Black institution.

I have yet to see any Aggie post one of the MAIN reasons for going to the Big South as opposed to other conferences.

You can't go where you aren't invited. We got 2 invitations to join. Rest were inquiries

Ok. That's not it either.  I am referring to the fact that the Big South's athletics budgets are similar to A&Ts.  The others were "too high."
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: BisonBlu on March 01, 2020, 08:27:56 PM
At the end of the day the academic profile of the schools in the BSC and budgets are more like NCAT than the majority of those in the MEAC.
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Thinkingaboutit on March 02, 2020, 04:49:07 AM
Its a done deal.  Here's wishing the best for the Aggies in this new venture.  Some got feelers and passed.  A&T decided to move.   :shrug:  it is what it is.  Why not have Georgia teams in the MEAC .
Title: Re: Aggies to Announce on Friday that they are leaving the MEAC
Post by: Ram55 on March 02, 2020, 08:40:42 AM
At the end of the day the academic profile of the schools in the BSC and budgets are more like NCAT than the majority of those in the MEAC.

That's not true. A&T is getting the same kind of students with the same struggle as all of the MEAC schools. Black people are basically the same know matter where we come from. A&T overall has nothing in common with the Big South. Like in all sports, they take our best athletes  and leave us with the rest. Now they are taking our best schools. Again, this is much larger than sports.